Master-Debater131 Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 There are far, far, too many great memes already out from Hulk Hogans speech at the RNC. Im only going to post one Its perfect 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insipid Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 Loosely from a Borat 2 quote, the mail order bride from shithole country Slovenia has finally made an appearance. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobdog Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 12 minutes ago, Insipid said: Loosely from a Borat 2 quote, the mail order bride from shithole country Slovenia has finally made an appearance. I’m not watching… how much plastic surgery has she done since we last saw her? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insipid Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 13 minutes ago, scoobdog said: I’m not watching… how much plastic surgery has she done since we last saw her? Beats me, scoob. She looks like she'd rather be anywhere else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobdog Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 13 minutes ago, Insipid said: Beats me, scoob. She looks like she'd rather be anywhere else. That’s a given. She ain’t owning any of that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belize Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 Is that thing still going on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belize Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 ...He's still talking. It's been like an hour, if I'm not mistaken. That's a long time to say absolutely nothing. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belize Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insipid Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 "They don't really care what he says, just that he's the one saying it." 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belize Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 (edited) I didn't listen to it because I never listen to what he says, but that looked boring as hell. I was expecting Mussolini and what I saw was a late night infomercial preempting programing for 90 minutes. Edited July 19 by Belize Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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matrixman124 Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 Everyone is saying the speech was boring af Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belize Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 Why are we even scared of the twerp we saw on stage tonight? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discolé monade Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 i thought about this last night. i have voted in every election since i turned 18. i don't think i'll be voting. not this year. i don't really see the point. neither option is of any value. it's way too late in the year to get a new dem candidate, or back harris, because it just is. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insipid Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 Biden needs to withdraw. He seems frail. I know quite a few white working class people here in Pittsburgh who voted for Trump in 2016 but changed to Biden in 2020. These are the swing voters that ultimately decide the entire election. As it stands now, I see them voting for Trump again. Democrats could try an aggressive smear campaign with Josh Shapiro. He was involved with prosecuting the Catholic Church sex scandal, and Trump has ties to Epstein. It may just work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master-Debater131 Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 Well, that sure one of the speeches of all time. 2 hours, 2 freaking hours. I get that Biden couldnt come close to matching that time, but man that sure drug on. The first part talking about the assassination attempt was really good. Humanized him a bit and humbled him. "I shouldnt be here" was a really good line that sticks out. Then he couldnt help himself and he went off-script. And things just went downhill when he did. It turned into typical Trumpian rally. It ate away at any good points with his usual rambling. His best line of the night was when he was talking about how people are being told to accept less and to embrace a decline then he said that we should expect far more and that decline isnt inevitable. Unfortunately that came near the 2 hour mark so most people likely were not tuned in, and it was after his rambling. So any good from that line was probably canceled out by his ramblings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belize Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 (edited) edit: nevermind. Move along. Edited July 19 by Belize Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master-Debater131 Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 The GOP’s Big Working-Class Bet https://www.liberalpatriot.com/p/the-gops-big-working-class-bet "In the July New York Times/Siena poll, Biden is losing to Trump by 23 points among working-class likely voters. In their June poll, which was closer to the running average of the polls, Trump led by 17 points among working-class likely voters. Either way, this is a massive shift from the 2020 election where Trump carried these voters by only 4 points and mostly explains why Trump is running ahead this year. New York Times/Siena also did two July state polls in Pennsylvania and Virginia. Pennsylvania is generally viewed as being the “tipping point” state in this election—the state that, if carried by Trump, would tip the electoral college in his favor. In the Times Pennsylvania poll, where Trump’s lead over Biden is the same as in the polling averages, Trump is carrying likely working-class voters in the state by 18 points. That’s double his 9 point lead among these voters in 2020, according to States of Change data." This is exactly what I have been saying. The GOP is transforming into the party of the working class. Democrats are abandoning this group of people in favor of coastal elites and the GOP is moving in to grab them. The Teamsters President showing up at the RNC, and both Vance and Trump talking about Union jobs in their speech further shows how the GOP is changing into the party of the working class. It also appears to be working. The polling referenced in the article clearly shows that the GOP is winning that vote, and that firmly puts the rust belt in play for the GOP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobdog Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 The GOP is not turning into the party of the working class. All that says is that the working class is voting for Trump, not that the GOP represents the working class. 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belize Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 That's great to see. Fursuits. Hell yeah. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belize Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 Pelosi is probably the one behind the "calling Biden to step aside" movement. She's wrong on that, a rare mistake for her. Also, her private conversations with Biden somehow keep getting leaked. The obvious response: do *not* have any more conversations with her. She's done a lot of good over her long career, but it's time for her to retire. Someone else should represent San Francisco in the House. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raptorpat Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 She's not the one "behind" it, but it sure did pick up steam when she committed to it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naraku360 Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 27 minutes ago, Belize said: Pelosi is probably the one behind the "calling Biden to step aside" movement. She's wrong on that, a rare mistake for her. Also, her private conversations with Biden somehow keep getting leaked. The obvious response: do *not* have any more conversations with her. She's done a lot of good over her long career, but it's time for her to retire. Someone else should represent San Francisco in the House. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1pooh4u Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 I think Biden will probably drop out. How can he possibly stay in it when both Pelosi and Schumer are even in on the maybe he should go train “If I stay there will be trouble. If I go it will be double..,..” 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1pooh4u Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 Oh look til Seinfeld was the lead singer for the clash 😶🌫️ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobdog Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 Joe has to come up with a succession plan. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1pooh4u Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 11 minutes ago, scoobdog said: Joe has to come up with a succession plan. Too many high ranking Dems are telling him to step down. He’s going to. He has to if democracy is at stake like he claims. It’s not enough to be like “democracy is at stake, vote for me” but then not step aside when clearly confidence in Biden has been lost. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naraku360 Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 33 minutes ago, scoobdog said: Joe has to come up with a succession plan. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsar4 Posted July 20 Share Posted July 20 Dems - please settle the POTUS candidate situation. I'm tired of hearing about it everywhere I go. Voters - vote for a platform, vote for a Veep who'd take over should anyone croak, but vote. Nobody's guaranteed tomorrow, Trump could choke on the Oath of Office where it talks about defending the Constitution and fall over dead. Harris could die in her sleep. Any one of us could snuff it for any number of reasons before we take our next breath. Just do whatever you think is best for the country. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belize Posted July 20 Share Posted July 20 I think the best indication that Biden is staying in the race is that he said he is staying in the race like 20 times. But here's another indication. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master-Debater131 Posted July 20 Share Posted July 20 Using this post as a marker for post-convention polling Post-assassination attempt Trump has seen a bump in his polling numbers. All the polls coming out since last weekend show Trump with a lead of 2-5 points, and an RCP average of 3. None have Biden with a lead. Swing state polling shows Trump with a lead outside of the MoE in Georgia, Nevada, North Carolina and Arizona, with an average lead of 4.3 points in the RCP top battleground states. The no-tossup map is 325-213 for Trump. Will be interesting to see if there is any shift in this now that the convention is over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belize Posted July 20 Share Posted July 20 This is a slide from a presentation by UCLA political scientist Lynn Vavreck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discolé monade Posted July 20 Share Posted July 20 “There’s too much talk about polling right now,” Belcher said. “As a pollster, it’s driving me out of my g— mind that people are trying to drive whatever narrative they want by using polling. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seight Posted July 20 Share Posted July 20 Most Everyone: "God I just want to vote for literally anyone else besides Biden or Trump." Kid Named Finger: 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belize Posted July 20 Share Posted July 20 2 hours ago, Belize said: This is a slide from a presentation by UCLA political scientist Lynn Vavreck. To expand on this point, Vavreck says during this presentation: "If you only remember one thing, this is what I tell my students, one thing and one thing only... this is the thing to remember. Incumbent parties in growing economies typically win elections." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1pooh4u Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 6 hours ago, Belize said: This is a slide from a presentation by UCLA political scientist Lynn Vavreck. Those incumbents typically finish sentences, but ok 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belize Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 (edited) 1 hour ago, 1pooh4u said: Those incumbents typically finish sentences, but ok I believe this would count under "things that people say is what makes this election different from all the rest" when it's not different from all the rest. Edited July 21 by Belize Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raptorpat Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 why 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1pooh4u Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 38 minutes ago, Belize said: I believe this would count under "things that people say is what makes this election different from all the rest" when it's not different from all the rest. Whatever gets you to sleep at night Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpgamer Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 Idk guys. He might have a point. I mean, look, the last time an incumbent president lost re-election was *checks notes* four years ago. All of recent history says it just doesn't happen. The masses will always want to vote for someone they know can be president over somebody that's never held the office. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insipid Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 4 hours ago, Belize said: I believe this would count under "things that people say is what makes this election different from all the rest" when it's not different from all the rest. I believe this here is called "copium" these days. "Pokemon go to the polls." 🙄 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belize Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 8 hours ago, rpgamer said: Idk guys. He might have a point. I mean, look, the last time an incumbent president lost re-election was *checks notes* four years ago. All of recent history says it just doesn't happen. The masses will always want to vote for someone they know can be president over somebody that's never held the office. You're proving my point. In 2020, the following was the huge dip in real GDP and that's why Trump lost reelection that year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belize Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 (edited) 12 hours ago, Raptorpat said: why Because I have seen many election cycles when people claimed *something* is the one thing to change the election. The actual thing that supposedly makes the election different from all other elections has varied wildly. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, and a few weeks in the 2024 presidential campaign or a sub-question in polls about concerns about Biden's age are not extraordinary evidence. Edited July 21 by Belize Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matrixman124 Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 Biden is out 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1pooh4u Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 2 minutes ago, matrixman124 said: Biden is out Was just going to post I got a notification. Rumors said he was dropping out on Sunday https://nypost.com/2024/07/21/us-news/biden-drops-out-of-presidential-race-after-disastrous-debate-performance/?utm_campaign=iphone_nyp&utm_source=pasteboard_app 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 So yeah, hope Kamala has warmed up. The complete shit show a debate between her and Trump would be. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raptorpat Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 https://x.com/JoeBiden/status/1815080881981190320 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matrixman124 Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 Next best case scenario is Kamala. If the DNC doesn't back her, it's over. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 4 minutes ago, matrixman124 said: Next best case scenario is Kamala. If the DNC doesn't back her, it's over. I’m pretty sure Joe wouldn’t bounce unless he was ensured that there was a clear succession plan. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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