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Without that footnote, I would have no idea what "POC" means.

Also, I thought you didn't invite Black people to the table because they might shoot you up for ratting them out to the boss.

I didnt rat anyone out..you know that right? Or are you sadly trolling again?

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1 minute ago, scoobdog said:

So, why were you afraid your former coworker was waiting in the parking lot with a gun?

Because she had some weird fixation on me and it got her fired.

1. I never named names.

2. Management saw me looking ...affected...and came to me then told me to write an email about it. I didnt go to them.

 

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15 minutes ago, Doom Metal Alchemist said:

RE: Number 10

I guess there's no point in trying not to be racist, then?

I think that one's more about acknowledging that you're still capable of doing or saying racist things even after becoming more aware of racism.

Or in other words, when someone says you're saying or doing something racist, it's usually better to actually listen to their complaint instead of getting defensive.

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1 minute ago, TrigunBebop said:

I think that one's moreso about acknowledging that you're still capable of doing or saying racist things even after becoming more aware of racism.

Or in other words, when someone says you're saying or doing something racist, it's usually better to actually listen to their complaint instead of getting defensive.

That interpretation I can understand and agree with.

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10 hours ago, GunStarHero said:

I barely constitute as Asian and am practically white, and yet another white person called me a "gook." I don't like to get racial, but not a day goes by that I don't at least quietly mouth "fuckin' white people" to myself. 

It is really weird that anyone would notice that. I will say that as a person that did not grow up around Asians and now live around a lot of them, as a culture in comparison to ours Asians can be fucking rude as hell. I'm not excusing any outward or inner racism but I do enjoy open cultural dialogue. And maybe I was looking for a place to wonder about it. Maybe living in a place where forty people are within three feet of you affects your daily habits.

 

This is making me think of where I blend in, and upper crusty white (or anything, but who are we kidding in America) is one of the American enclaves I fit into the least. Middle class, hood, poor, I can even manage to wade through gangsters, at least American ones. I don't think I would want to encounter a racist group, I had to share a shitty jailhouse with one of those guys. He had white pride tattooed on his back, kind of a big dude but you could tell he relied on being big to fight. When he showed up everyone's reaction was, "I don't want to have to fight this piece of shit." Huh. It's weird I expect problems from racist gangs rather than other gangs. It could be because racist groups center around racism and urban gangs are focused on money. A lot of people in street gangs still like to have a good time. Even the giant fucking bruisers in prison like a good joke every now and then.

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10 hours ago, TrigunBebop said:

I think that one's more about acknowledging that you're still capable of doing or saying racist things even after becoming more aware of racism.

Or in other words, when someone says you're saying or doing something racist, it's usually better to actually listen to their complaint instead of getting defensive.

It's a shit meme, so it's worded poorly, and, naturally, does the exact opposite of what it intends to convey.

You're correct, though.  There's a difference between being a racist and expressing racism because the latter can be (and, for many of us, is) unintentional.  That's attributable more to the pervasive nature of racial inequality than it is to intrenched social attitudes.  For instance, law enforcement tends to be racially biased not because the police officers are biased but because historic public policy and resulting socioeconomic forces tend to contribute both to continued suppression of POC and the perpetuation of biased stereotypes.  For the average white person,  white privilege is one such thing we benefit from despite not being willing participants, and being aware of the discrepancy between how you are treated compared to other racial groups is counterintuitively about compensating in a general sense.  As such, the best way to compensate for, say, the discrepancy between perceived bias at your workplace is to demand that all employees receive wages and benefits that are considered to be sufficient for living.

The list tends to be crassly specific and confrontational, but it does reflect a fundamental truth about racial inequality.  We tend to treat racism as a function of hatred when it's really a structural defect in our society that begets said hatred.  It's fundamentally impossible to treat all people "equally" when you're not treating all people fairly.  The concept of urban redevelopment is something that I get to see first hand because it's what I do for a living.  The term gentrification gets thrown around, but I don't think a lot of people get what it really means - specifically gentrification isn't the process of rehabilitating or rebuilding depressed communities, it's the process of capitalizing on rehabilitation in a way that isn't sustainable for the community.  My brother lives in the West Adams district, one of the earliest affluent neighborhoods in the city that is has recently seen revitilization.  Because many of the homes in this neighborhood were for rich people at the turn of the 20th Century, rehabilitation is something of a no brainer - putting in relatively reasonable investments into the neighborhood make it an attractive option for people looking to move closer to the city center.  The problem is that it also means affluent buyers can buy the properties at submarket rates, invest modestly, and resell those properties for double what they paid.  The problem here is that it this easy way to make money for a smaller time purchaser contributes to long time residents being forced out of their homes either by greedy landlords or new purchasers who have to boost rents to afford the mortgage.  As a matter of course, those being forced out aren't necessarily being targeted for their race, but the action disproportionately affects POC through their socioeconomic standing.  As such, careless (but not illegal) actions by people who are interested only in making a quick buck have the unintended and devastating effect of deepening institutional racism and stifling the viability of the community as a whole.

Ultimately, painful sacrifices by white people have to be made for the betterment of all people regardless of color.  Having white privilege is not a mark of shame as long as you understand that it isn't a license to take advantage and it also isn't an excuse to be unaware of the ramifications of your actions.

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2 hours ago, Drunkenwarrior said:

Yes, yes, white men bad....we know

 

Now if you'll excuse me I'm gonna go bathe in my riches, given to me by my abundance of white patriarchal privilege 

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56 minutes ago, scoobdog said:

Ultimately, painful sacrifices by white people have to be made for the betterment of all people regardless of color.  Having white privilege is not a mark of shame as long as you understand that it isn't a license to take advantage and it also isn't an excuse to be unaware of the ramifications of your actions.

This was a pretty stupid post

 

This part was the most stupid

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6 hours ago, Drunkenwarrior said:

Yes, yes, white men bad....we know

 

Know if you'll excuse me I'm gonna go bath in my riches given to me by my abundance of white patriarchal privilege 

priv·i·lege
ˈpriv(ə)lij/Submit
noun
1.
a special right, advantage, or immunity granted or available only to a particular person or group of people.
"education is a right, not a privilege"
synonyms:    advantage, benefit; More
verbformal
1.
grant a privilege or privileges to.
"English inheritance law privileged the eldest son"

If you're gonna bitch, at least pretend that you actually have a full grasp of what the word privilege means. Less likely to have the cops called on you for just sitting in a restaurant or being murdered by them for being a 'scary black person' is an advantage, dipshit.

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36 minutes ago, SorceressPol said:

priv·i·lege
ˈpriv(ə)lij/Submit
noun
1.
a special right, advantage, or immunity granted or available only to a particular person or group of people.
"education is a right, not a privilege"
synonyms:    advantage, benefit; More
verbformal
1.
grant a privilege or privileges to.
"English inheritance law privileged the eldest son"

If you're gonna bitch, at least pretend that you actually have a full grasp of what the word privilege means. Less likely to have the cops called on you for just sitting in a restaurant or being murdered by them for being a 'scary black person' is an advantage, dipshit.

I think you're mistaken....I"m not complaining

 

I love being white, I never have to worry about those things. I"m always safe and secure knowing my whiteness protects me from so many terrible things...

 

You should also refrain from name calling when you want to prove a point, otherwise you just come off as the whiny little children you and your ilk really are

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9 minutes ago, Drunkenwarrior said:

I think you're mistaken....I"m not complaining

 

I love being white, I never have to worry about those things. I"m always safe and secure knowing my whiteness protects me from so many terrible things...

 

You should also refrain from name calling when you want to prove a point, otherwise you just come off as the whiny little children you and your ilk really are

Awwwww, did sorce upset you when she called you a dipshit?

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39 minutes ago, Drunkenwarrior said:

I think you're mistaken....I"m not complaining

 

I love being white, I never have to worry about those things. I"m always safe and secure knowing my whiteness protects me from so many terrible things...

 

You should also refrain from name calling when you want to prove a point, otherwise you just come off as the whiny little children you and your ilk really are

You probably don't want to use phrases like "you and your ilk" while joking about how great is to be white. Dipshit.

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