fuggnificent Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 k so i couldnt figure out where to take my newlyweds for their honeymoon. theyve never had sex MOSTLY because her first bf savagely raped her....so she is emotionally scarred, fragile, etc so i decided he'd breakdown her barriers by introducing her to bdsm (where shes the dom, him the sub) this gives her back the power of consent and makes her feel safe his mother buys out a sex dungeon and they spend the night there exploring im loving this. gonna be rich. its 50 shades for teenagers. GIMME YO MONEY NNNNAAAAOOOOWW 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poof Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 His mom buys him a sex dungeon?? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuggnificent Posted February 13, 2018 Author Share Posted February 13, 2018 32 minutes ago, Poof said: His mom buys him a sex dungeon?? shes a new age empath in touch with her spirituality and she really did it more for his wife Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poof Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 4 minutes ago, fuggnificent said: shes a new age empath in touch with her spirituality and she really did it more for his wife That’s a cool mom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stilgar Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 The fuck is wrong with you? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bouvre Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 2 hours ago, fuggnificent said: its 50 shades for teenagers. I'm not going to lie about my concern. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuggnificent Posted February 13, 2018 Author Share Posted February 13, 2018 5 minutes ago, Poof said: That’s a cool mom yah shes an enabler with no boundaries but i love her his dads cool, too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuggnificent Posted February 13, 2018 Author Share Posted February 13, 2018 4 minutes ago, Bouvre said: I'm not going to lie about my concern. but its actual bdsm which is mostly safe and rewarding...not borderline abusive with one party not really into it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stilgar Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 You don't know shit about the bdsm lifestyle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bouvre Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 13 minutes ago, fuggnificent said: but its actual bdsm which is mostly safe and rewarding...not borderline abusive with one party not really into it. Writing sex involving teens, while it does happen, is really precarious territory, especially if it's explicit, and the focus of your novel. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
André Toulon Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discolé monade Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 needs more gladiators. and a donkey. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuggnificent Posted February 13, 2018 Author Share Posted February 13, 2018 8 hours ago, Bouvre said: Writing sex involving teens, while it does happen, is really precarious territory, especially if it's explicit, and the focus of your novel. i write what i want. people can just not read it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwimModSponges Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 8 hours ago, Bouvre said: Writing sex involving teens, while it does happen, is really precarious territory, especially if it's explicit, and the focus of your novel. Yeah, when i joined the XAV club i was sure to not let any of the teens get fucked by a tentacle monster. Gotta have boundaries; and im the guy who wrote about dinosaur rape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaBarney Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 I don't think your novel is ever going to offend anyone. Not one single person will be offended by whatever you write. Nobody at all, ever. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phillies Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 10 hours ago, Poof said: His mom buys him a sex dungeon?? Ya know what I kind of like this concept for some reason. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DragonSinger Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 2 hours ago, fuggnificent said: i write what i want. people can just not read it. Most for-profit sites will have restrictions against novels with underage sex if they're deemed to be erotic. The general advice is 18+ if you don't want to worry about your books being taken down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuggnificent Posted February 13, 2018 Author Share Posted February 13, 2018 2 hours ago, SwimModSponges said: Yeah, when i joined the XAV club i was sure to not let any of the teens get fucked by a tentacle monster. Gotta have boundaries; and im the guy who wrote about dinosaur rape. isnt the girl with the gloves a teenager? yah shes not getting fucked but shes still doing sex stuff..PERV! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derackthehunter Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 So we're to assume that he's living with his parents? Either that or his job has terrible pay. Should have been a custodian like Packman. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwimModSponges Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 1 hour ago, fuggnificent said: isnt the girl with the gloves a teenager? yah shes not getting fucked but shes still doing sex stuff..PERV! Ok, I'm working on a project for work right now about which I am very excited, so I can't tell you how incorrect you are with that statement, nor can I post a list of the ages of the individuals who engaged in the orgy. But when I get home, I'm tearing this post a new asshole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuggnificent Posted February 13, 2018 Author Share Posted February 13, 2018 5 minutes ago, SwimModSponges said: Ok, I'm working on a project for work right now about which I am very excited, so I can't tell you how incorrect you are with that statement, nor can I post a list of the ages of the individuals who engaged in the orgy. But when I get home, I'm tearing this post a new asshole. ok maybe posting "PERV!" was a bit much. but u do you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwimModSponges Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 1 minute ago, fuggnificent said: ok maybe posting "PERV!" was a bit much. but u do you Oh no, the perv part is right on I will gladly admit that. It's the factual inaccuracies.that bug me 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuggnificent Posted February 13, 2018 Author Share Posted February 13, 2018 3 minutes ago, SwimModSponges said: Oh no, the perv part is right on I will gladly admit that. It's the factual inaccuracies.that bug me i googled it. google says shes 18 so no need for a dissertation. im good 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DragonSinger Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 30 minutes ago, fuggnificent said: i googled it. google says shes 18 so no need for a dissertation. im good You got him all excited, so you know it's coming anyway. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobdog Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 Ugh. Why on earth are you having your protagonist get into BDSM after she was brutally raped? Maybe I'm not the best person to point this out, but BDSM is going to reinforce control issues with a woman who has been violated, even if she is given the opportunity to be the dom. I'm not saying it can't be done, but there are definitely psychological barriers that would make intimacy more difficult if what you're trying to do is make Deja and Whateverhisnameis open up about their feelings for each other. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stilgar Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 Fuggses fundamental problem is she has no idea what a real BDSM relationship is because she only reads the fetishization of them and refuses to learn about what it is actually like. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobdog Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 5 minutes ago, stilgar said: Fuggses fundamental problem is she has no idea what a real BDSM relationship is because she only reads the fetishization of them and refuses to learn about what it is actually like. Exactly (This part is for @fuggnificent) It's not that BDSM or fetishism are a bad thing; relinquishing control of your sexual desires is an important part of having a realistic and healthy relationship and its something that a lot of men (and even a few women) need. But for Deja, sexual desires are secondary to the fact that she was attacked and assaulted. Asking her exerting control over her new husband isn't going to allow her to open up to him as make her reenact the abuse she endured in the role of perpetrator, and that can only end up a few ways - either she embraces the role of abuser or (more likely) the process opens up a lot of ugly, panful wounds that makes it even worse. BDSM doms are highly experienced individuals who understand that what they're doing takes a good deal of care and that, if done improperly, can easily become abuse. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poof Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 Characters in stories don’t have to make good decisions. If it’s a story about a rape victim becoming a domme that’s what it is. Fuggs never said it was a healthy decision Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
André Toulon Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 10 minutes ago, Poof said: Characters in stories don’t have to make good decisions. If it’s a story about a rape victim becoming a domme that’s what it is. Fuggs never said it was a healthy decision Give her time, we've all had this conversation with her before Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuggnificent Posted February 13, 2018 Author Share Posted February 13, 2018 1 hour ago, scoobdog said: Exactly (This part is for @fuggnificent) It's not that BDSM or fetishism are a bad thing; relinquishing control of your sexual desires is an important part of having a realistic and healthy relationship and its something that a lot of men (and even a few women) need. But for Deja, sexual desires are secondary to the fact that she was attacked and assaulted. Asking her exerting control over her new husband isn't going to allow her to open up to him as make her reenact the abuse she endured in the role of perpetrator, and that can only end up a few ways - either she embraces the role of abuser or (more likely) the process opens up a lot of ugly, panful wounds that makes it even worse. BDSM doms are highly experienced individuals who understand that what they're doing takes a good deal of care and that, if done improperly, can easily become abuse. they are supervised by the professional dungeon worker people. it getsto be a lot at one point but they guide her through it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stilgar Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 11 minutes ago, fuggnificent said: they are supervised by the professional dungeon worker people. For fucks sake. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
André Toulon Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 3 minutes ago, stilgar said: For fucks sake. I didn't even bother.....This is the abyss and I have one chance to secape 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginguy Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 16 hours ago, Bouvre said: Writing sex involving teens, while it does happen, is really precarious territory, especially if it's explicit, and the focus of your novel. It is not only precarious, it is criminal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobdog Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 1 hour ago, Poof said: Characters in stories don’t have to make good decisions. If it’s a story about a rape victim becoming a domme that’s what it is. Fuggs never said it was a healthy decision Buddy already alluded to it. This isn't a story about a rape victim becoming a dom, it's a story about a rape victim being redeemed by love with a good man. I didn't come up with any of this; this is how she's developed the story over the years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuggnificent Posted February 13, 2018 Author Share Posted February 13, 2018 1 minute ago, Ginguy said: It is not only precarious, it is criminal. you think everything is illegal. isaw u say youd go to jail for forgetting to file one measly ole w2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobdog Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 2 minutes ago, Ginguy said: It is not only precarious, it is criminal. No, it's not, legal eagle. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stilgar Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 5 minutes ago, Noboru Yamaguchi said: I didn't even bother.....This is the abyss and I have one chance to secape She lives in this weird bubble and thinks thats how the world is. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobdog Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 22 minutes ago, fuggnificent said: they are supervised by the professional dungeon worker people. it getsto be a lot at one point but they guide her through it I get that this is supposed to be fiction, but such a conceit is highly improbable given the the very rigid rules governing the practice within the community (by the dominatrix themselves). No dom would ever "supervise" someone with Deja's traumatic background explicitly because rape victims have had the line between control and abuse blurred. It's a safety issue at the very least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuggnificent Posted February 13, 2018 Author Share Posted February 13, 2018 7 minutes ago, scoobdog said: I get that this is supposed to be fiction, but such a conceit is highly improbable given the the very rigid rules governing the practice within the community (by the dominatrix themselves). No dom would ever "supervise" someone with Deja's traumatic background explicitly because rape victims have had the line between control and abuse blurred. It's a safety issue at the very least. so much wrong in this post. whatever. yall banned from my deja stuff anyways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stilgar Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 How many BDSM events have you been to fuggs? How many munches? How many times have you actually talked to someone in the community face to face? I am willing to guess never. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
André Toulon Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 2 minutes ago, fuggnificent said: so much wrong in this post. whatever. yall banned from my deja stuff anyways Good, delete this shit, hide it...Whatever....Punish us madamme Fuggz. Show us you mean business 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DragonSinger Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 Just now, stilgar said: How many BDSM events have you been to fuggs? How many munches? How many times have you actually talked to someone in the community face to face? I am willing to guess never. Go on, Stilgar, you can share more . Wat chu do in your free time? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stilgar Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 Well, not too much anymore. I almost had to abandon a large kinky convention that happens every November because the guy running it was a massive scumbag. The kind who doesn't pay people what they are owed and covers up staff members raping people at the event kind of scumbag. But luckily another organization bought all the rights to several of his events since the one that was about to happen was on the verge of being canceled. So now i don't need to worry about that the next time I go. There was a monthly club I was going to in the city for awhile that was run by a former Jesus impersonator, which was kinda fun. Especially when you see Jesus walking around hitting people with a flogger. There were a few other munches I used to go to as well but life hasn't been giving me an opportunity to go for awhile. Than there is my personal life. Which will stay that way because that is how I roll. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobdog Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 7 minutes ago, stilgar said: Well, not too much anymore. I almost had to abandon a large kinky convention that happens every November because the guy running it was a massive scumbag. The kind who doesn't pay people what they are owed and covers up staff members raping people at the event kind of scumbag. But luckily another organization bought all the rights to several of his events since the one that was about to happen was on the verge of being canceled. So now i don't need to worry about that the next time I go. There was a monthly club I was going to in the city for awhile that was run by a former Jesus impersonator, which was kinda fun. Especially when you see Jesus walking around hitting people with a flogger. There were a few other munches I used to go to as well but life hasn't been giving me an opportunity to go for awhile. Than there is my personal life. Which will stay that way because that is how I roll. Getting flogged by Jesus sounds like one of the best things ever. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuggnificent Posted February 13, 2018 Author Share Posted February 13, 2018 why does stilgar still respond to my stuff?i havent talked to him in over a year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DragonSinger Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 15 minutes ago, stilgar said: Well, not too much anymore. I almost had to abandon a large kinky convention that happens every November because the guy running it was a massive scumbag. The kind who doesn't pay people what they are owed and covers up staff members raping people at the event kind of scumbag. But luckily another organization bought all the rights to several of his events since the one that was about to happen was on the verge of being canceled. So now i don't need to worry about that the next time I go. h There was a monthly club I was going to in the city for awhile that was run by a former Jesus impersonator, which was kinda fun. Especially when you see Jesus walking around hitting people with a flogger. There were a few other munches I used to go to as well but life hasn't been giving me an opportunity to go for awhile. Than there is my personal life. Which will stay that way because that is how I roll. Ugh, I've heard horror stories like that, but it's more fucked up when the organizers ignore predatory behavior. The club with the Jesus impersonator sounds fun as heck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobdog Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 12 minutes ago, fuggnificent said: why does stilgar still respond to my stuff?i havent talked to him in over a year Because he knows what he's talking about, and you don't. I swear to God, if you ever tried an actual collegiate level fiction writing glass, you wouldn't last one workshop. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derackthehunter Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 35 minutes ago, scoobdog said: Getting flogged by Jesus sounds like one of the best things ever. There's a reason he can turn water into wine. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginguy Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 1 hour ago, fuggnificent said: you think everything is illegal. isaw u say youd go to jail for forgetting to file one measly ole w2 Creation/dissemination of obscene material is a felony offense under 18 USC 1465. Tax evasion, which is forgetting to include a W-2 in your tax forms is a felony. Ask Wesley.... You ripping off 50 Shades of Fail should be a felony on general principle.... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Opium Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 While exploring the sex dungeon they come across a chained up sex dragon, which was once just an iguana but was turned into a dragon after an evil sex wizard jizzed on it 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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