nameraka Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 How does one bilk the system into paying your living expenses? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phillies Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 **pulls up chair, sits down** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuggnificent Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 eat. eat everything in site 24/7. gain 300lbs. then youll be disabled and paid social security! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Still Me Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 How does one bilk the system into paying your living expenses? come on..working sucks, I get that...but don't become a waste of skin piece of shit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sawdamizer Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 Have you thought about selling drugs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaBarney Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 Steal tools out of your neighbors sheds and sell them on Craigslist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phillies Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 eat. eat everything in site 24/7. gain 300lbs. then youll be disabled and paid social security! ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naraku4656 Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 work at walmart under 12 different names Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nameraka Posted July 22, 2017 Author Share Posted July 22, 2017 eat. eat everything in site 24/7. gain 300lbs. then youll be disabled and paid social security! I tried having a drinking problem, but I couldn't gain more than 20lbs that way and I'm afraid eating that much wouldn't work because I have ibs. Wait... Is ibs a disability? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wacky1980 Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 I tried having a drinking problem, but I couldn't gain more than 20lbs that way and I'm afraid eating that much wouldn't work because I have ibs. Wait... Is ibs a disability? if it was severe enough, it could be. don't give up on the alcoholic thing though. i know people who have successfully lobbied for ss disability benefits solely because they were diagnosed with alcoholism. pieces of white trash shit they are, but they got what you're wanting. as long as you don't mind being considered a waste of air and living well below the poverty line, it's always an option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarPanda Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 Take advantage of the government benefits Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nameraka Posted July 22, 2017 Author Share Posted July 22, 2017 if it was severe enough, it could be. don't give up on the alcoholic thing though. i know people who have successfully lobbied for ss disability benefits solely because they were diagnosed with alcoholism. pieces of white trash shit they are, but they got what you're wanting. as long as you don't mind being considered a waste of air and living well below the poverty line, it's always an option. Well I gave up because I was developing type 2 diabetes so maybe I just gave up too fast. Besides I'm a poor just above poverty waste of space with two jobs at the moment. If I'm gonna be broke, why work so hard? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nameraka Posted July 22, 2017 Author Share Posted July 22, 2017 work at walmart under 12 different names That's too much like working. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1938 Packard Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 How does one bilk the system into paying your living expenses? Most of them start real early. Like, be a fourteen year old pregnant girl. If you're older and have already been working for a long time, get a smart lawyer and a willing doctor together and feign a disability. Look up the guy who pretends to an eight month old baby and then cook up a similar angle to his. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naraku4656 Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 That's too much like working. yeah but no one actually "works" at walmart, they all sit in the back on their phones while you try and find shit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1938 Packard Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 eat. eat everything in site 24/7. gain 300lbs. then youll be disabled and paid social security! Yup. A a deliberately self inflicted disability is one way to get the job done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lupin_bebop Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 Become CEO or your own successful company Or Start a religion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Distortedreasoning Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 get two jobs you lazy bum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandstone Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 One does not bilk the system. Unless you are a single mother with multiple children recieving child support and SSI payments (only way these are big enought to cover expenses is having multiple children as payments can be increased by some circumstances like these). I do not like to talk much about my personal problems much anymore on here, bease it's not really anyone's business, most people don't care, and most importantly it seriously depresses me to talk about it at any sort of length. I feel a bit of an obligation to say something here. I have been on disability for severe bipolar type 2 and OCD for a couple years now. It is not easy to get awarded disability even of you have payed in to the social security system for several years with multiple jobs. There is an entire application process, that can vary in length but can take as long as a year or more to even have a hearing. I was lucky to get one about 7 months, after having applied. Which was after a month and a half of collecting medical records from my lawyer showing several hospitalizations and several years of treatment with medication and therapy. This is not as easy as it sounds as you must prove that you are actually unable to hold a steady job that could meet minimum living costs in your area and for your given skill set. Without going into to too much detail, in my case this included documents from employers and doctors showing multiple incidents of severe panic attacks at work, anger and mood issues, and an inability to stay awake for a full length work schedule. They then have someone who is educated in in what constituents significant levels of impairment in relation to the work you do, assess and after another month or so attends a hearing with a judge to testify as to whether or not you meet the legal definition of disability. The judge can then approve deny or postpone your request. In my case it took two separate hearings because we needed additional documents. You usually also have to pay for psychiatrist record copies (which cost per page usually) and/or letters testiflying to your disability. This is usually because legal documents and records are handled in conjunction with financial offices. After all that, you must also show that you meet the legal definition of poverty level. I.E. you must disclose and provide records attesting to current assets, savings, or income. And then you will be awarded an ammount by federal (and some state) Social Security an Medicaid Benefits, based on need, current minimum cost of living, and accounting for current assets, savings, and income. BTW this can include anything you own even if it is still being payed off such as a car or starter home. And they do not go based on what people would pay you for said assets, but their median market value. And finally after all that, they give you a portion of the max benefits you can possibly be awarded. In my case and area, and considering I payed smaller rent to my family, than average, this equated to about 480 dollars a month, and Medicaid benefits. I have since been trying desperately to find work that I could actually do, that would be enough to live on independently (like I did for a time). And trying to finally finish my 4 year computer science degree from the two year degree I have, as it is impossible to be highered for a position that can actually support oneself in my field. As you can imagine because of my disability this is also difficult at times, because I can have panic attacks or severe mood swing episodes in public still occasionally even though I am receiving treatment. The majority of money I recieve based on what I paid in and what I was awarded for actual mental disability, goes to pay my rent (which I could not afford if it was a standard rent), essential bills, some food, and medical expenses. That is about all it covers. It is not a game, it is not fun, it is not luxurious, and it is not even enough to really cover basic costs of living. It is a stop gap measure intended to keep people who are disabled from becoming homeless. Are there people that game the system? Yes, I'm sure there are. But for all those cases there are alot more like myself who are in a very difficult situation, and many of us don't like it and desperately want out. Sorry for the diatribe. I am frustrated with myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandstone Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 One more thing I should add, and this will be the last since this agitated me, if you are ever caugh in an audit or if you attempty to go back to work and misrepresent anything financial you risk serious fines, and prison time for fraud. I must submit any changes to income or assets to social security and have an in depth review at least every year to make sure I am meeting legal definition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nameraka Posted July 22, 2017 Author Share Posted July 22, 2017 get two jobs you lazy bum. I have 2 jobs. That's the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naraku4656 Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 i want free money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Distortedreasoning Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 third job O0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1938 Packard Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 Sandstone[/member]: I'm not receiving any benefits, but I get annual reports from Social Security. Another thing that seems to come into play is the number of "work credits" one has attained over the years. Was that part of your process? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilosipherStoned Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 Become CEO or your own successful company Or Start a religion I've thought about the starting religion thing. Let's put our heads together and come up with a cult religion. Start a bulk account for dedicated followers to deposit their "excess" cash in, Only us in the upper echelon have access to this account, and we convince them we must suffer the torment of a lavish lifestyle so they can live a righteous and humble lifestyle dedicated to the cause. We'll be martyred for partying in our yachts. >_> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naraku4656 Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 the church of the ramen noodle, wait that already exists with the Flying Spaghetti Monster. DAMN IT THEY STOLE MY IDEA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
molarbear Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 I've thought about the starting religion thing. Let's put our heads together and come up with a cult religion. Start a bulk account for dedicated followers to deposit their "excess" cash in, Only us in the upper echelon have access to this account, and we convince them we must suffer the torment of a lavish lifestyle so they can live a righteous and humble lifestyle dedicated to the cause. We'll be martyred for partying in our yachts. >_> It worked for the Scientology dude Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilsergE Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 eat. eat everything in site 24/7. gain 300lbs. then youll be disabled and paid social security! Speaking from personal experience Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1938 Packard Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 One more thing I should add, and this will be the last since this agitated me, if you are ever caugh in an audit or if you attempty to go back to work and misrepresent anything financial you risk serious fines, and prison time for fraud. I must submit any changes to income or assets to social security and have an in depth review at least every year to make sure I am meeting legal definition. I just found that means testing applies only to SSI and not SSDI. http://longislandspecialneedslawyer.com/future-needs/the-difference-between-ssi-and-ssdi-is-more-than-just-a-letter/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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