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Do you think he actually is fighting them because he feels like if he gives an inch, they'll just take over? I personally am hoping that they eventually try and have some synergy between CR and Toonami. In fact, . I'm all for them sort of attaching their brand to the block in some way First, I'd like CR to eventually fold itself into HBOMAX so its all in one place I would like the the block to have some CR dubs that air on Toonami first and go to HBOMAX right after. I'd like them to be a main force in programming the block to bring in some fresh ideas. The block can open with a popular Viz or Funimation title (Bleach, DB, or MHA) to bring in a crowd, followed by some CR titles, and the usual Black Clover/Naruto ending. I feel like both brands have something to offer and be mutually benefitial to each other

What rivalries are those?

I’m going to be honest- I really don’t like the direction of the block. The lack of anything new even before the current situation just makes it kind of blah with nothing really to look toward to either. Even without COVID-19, it didn’t seem like they had much lined up this year. I figured if they got down to 3 hours of premeires with an equal mix of long and short runners, that would be good, but now instead of cutting slots, reruns are replacing premiers. If they don’t get a new show for MHA, that’ll be it for the summer. I was hoping we’d get more catalog titles to keep things semi fresh, but this is making me lose faith in them

So are you shifting now more towards using Kai as the base and just replacing certain characters. I’ve been spot checking the original episodes and have been suprised how characters like Vegeta and Krillin go back and forth between the Z and Kai dubs. How do you choose which version to use?

Can’t deny that. Whatever problems they had with playing Bobs didn’t do Toonami any favors.

They are essentially showing a month old rerun of it. Considering they were handing out coupons for a month of Funimation, I bet they’d rather you didn’t know it aired on Toonami. They are more than happy to take a check from Toonami though to air it on a delay I bet a very small percent of people watching in the theater watch it on Toonami. Considering they are airing episodes from 6 weeks ago, most fans of the show probably even abandoned the simuldub and are watching the sub. Even if we had the premeire, the idea of having to tune in at a specific time is too much for today’s audience and they’d probably stream it anyway

Curious to see how the prime time ratings panned out. All we know is that Toonami only got an OK start at 455/0.2. It seems to always work best when they put American Dad next to Family Guy, but lately they've been using it as their prime time anchor more and more

If Jojo blows up on Netflix, it really does say alot about the trends of modern viewership. The other day, we were walking in the neighborhood and ran into a friend who was a massive Doctor Who fan. She said she hasn't watched the most recent season because its not on Netflix yet (or whatever site it would be on since no season of it is on there). The issue I see lately, and I'm guilty of this too, is that we want our Toonami to be the place we remember. The place where we would turn the TV on a Saturday night and watch the PREMEIRE of a show that we didn't know about before. There was no simulcasts, if the show was dubbed before- DVDs were 25.00 for 3 episodes, and you had to be there when it aired. But we've all evolved in our fandom and anime isn't restricted to TV and bootleg fansubs. If you go and ask what the purpose of the block is today I've come up with a few things 1. Nostalgia for viewers like us. It's comfortable to have these show presented to us by TOM surrounded by all the goodies. We are a loyal passionate audience to say the least, but the audience that has a connection to the original block is aging out of the 18-34 demo little by little every year. They will have to think about how and if they want to market Toonami to a new generation who doesn't want to watch TV or do they shift to targeting the older demographic still. 2. Promotion. I still think anime distributors love to see their shows on the block because it drums up awareness for their shows. In the end, they want to sell you merchandise from these shows and Toonami is one way to get it out there. I will say though that companies like Funimation and Crunchyroll would love to steal you away from your Toonami viewing and bring you to their sites instead. Why else would Funimation force Toonami to wait an additional week for MHA ? CR put ads online telling you to come to their site to watch ALL of the episodes of a show currently airing on the block. I'm worried this is what Warner will do with Toonami- use it as a tool to promote a show already on CR. Companies like Viz and Aniplex are still about the sellling of physical media after broadcast, but we are starting to see Toonami being used as a means to introduce a show to an audience that they will finish it on streaming. I don't understand why people are demanding they air shows that are already available for free dubbed online. I've already seen a few people hoping the CR originals eventually end up on the block. For what purpose would that serve other than to drive traffic to CR? I don't think we necessarily need the block to inform the masses about anime and it should shift to airing originals that air there first.

It’s probably a good idea to stick with Kai during the scene where Piccolo is wished bask as well (you probably meant this) The scene in the original also features “surfer” Yamaha arguing with Tien about his hair lol, Kai making a phone call joke- it’s one of the worst scenes dub wise. For the sake of proper dialogue and voices, I’d not use any of the original for this. The voice inconsistency with Piccolo was one of the main reasons I hated the OB. How could they even think for a second the original 1999 version flowed well with the rest of the series. I assume you’ll use the Kai Goku in the Freeza saga as well? I never thought of pitch correcting. That’s a good way of fixing it. I’ve been spot checking here and there and your only hurdle will be Nadolys dialogue, but it doesn’t look to me like it should stop you from using Kai Piccolo exclusively

I have absolutley loved what i heard so far... I have a few questions/suggestions I see for the most part you are using the 2005 version for the audio. But what I really like is that you subbed in the Kai audio where the line is more accurate to the original. This is done with surgical precision and I had to look at both to tell what’s what. Truly great work The actors are all on point here. I assume once we get to the end of the refund you'll use the Kai performances instead of the 1999 dub. The partial redub of the bricks makes it very strange sounding When we get to the part of the Freeza Saga where Piccolo is revived, it would probably be best to use the Kai audio as much as possible. Piccolo's voice sounds vastly different in the original DBZ than what it sounds like in other parts (including the parts already released) since he was not redubbed at all for the orange bricks. This could be a slight issue if you have him talking to characters who are the original DBZ recordings as the more faithful adaptation of Kai may mean the whole conversation has changed. Sabat's early interpretation is so different it sounds like a different actor all together. This took me out of the show when watching the bricks. Krillin is redubbed up until the middle of a line of episode 94 (....I got a bad feeling about this Gohan). It then switches to the original 1999 dub where it sounds like Sonny is holding his nose shut while speaking. It would probably be best to switch to Kai here as well. Especially since in episode 95 the joke about him wanting to be married is properly translated and his cry out to Goku is "Goku!" as it should be.. This does present a slight issue if you want to do Garlic Jr since no redub of that exists. Those two characters will sound vastly different than at any other point in the series... Using both VAs for Freeza might present a jarring change as the whole interpretation of the character and his manner of speaking is different in both versions. Young is more of a crazy villain and Ayers does the polite eloquent speech thing. But it might still work depending on what lines are kept Anyway, just thought I'd bring this up but you've probably thought of this all already...

I'd like to watch this, but have no way of finding it

I know and Adult Swim would never even think of doing an anime premeire outside of Saturday night.

We could’ve been even closer if we didn’t have to take 3 holiday breaks at the end of 2019. I think if they are serious about keeping up they can’t take off if Funimation or Japan isn’t

I know right? But they had to “wait and see if it was going to stay popular http://toonamifaithful.com/toonamis-hero-academia-will-finally-happen/ That thinking combined with them rather getting established “names” like Gundam, HxH, OPM, and Jojo firmly established MHA as a streaming show. Now I don’t think Funimation will even let them have the dub premeire if they paid Unfortunately, the idea of Toonami making a show popular is a relic of the past. It will never be the the primary source for premeires like it used to

Now it makes sense... they need the slot for Apollo Gauntlet

I know they don’t and I think they should because they seem to be ok with second dibs on things, but for a person like me who has access to everything but wants to support the block it’s frustrating. They hardly ever announce a show until its streaming for several weeks. It makes me very weary of starting anything on FN. A lot of people will just not watch the Toonami airing if they’ve already started it elsewhere. In this case, the information that it will air on a delay would be helpful, but they seldom give us that. I actually waited 2 years for MHA. I finally relented and streamed the first season. Then they announced it for the block the next week I’m sure they’ll say that their target is people who don’t stream, but I wish they’d set their sights bigger than that- it’s probably too late though

Amen to that. The question is, do they even care enough about getting first rights to spend the money? In their eyes, does it even make a difference if a good chunk of the audience won't tune in and just wait until streaming anyway?

I’m still 100% certain we get Mob at some point early this year. I know the Reigen special was mistakenly announced to air last year and it would be a good recap of s1. I wonder though where they would slot it? Would they put Fire Force on hiatus again right before it finishes for something like that? I think the smarter move is to replace Fire Force with Mob and give Food Wars a week off since it’s older and not near it’s finale. I do agree we’ll get an announcement this week, even if it’s a stall schedule. They pretty much have to. I would like to see them continue to pick up unknown newer anime with a tighter but reasonable schedule with Funimation. I’d live to see Funimation actually let them premeire something and have a deal like Titan, but I don’t think it can happen that way anymore

Another rerun announcement would be a letdown for sure. I’m going with a recent show that just started up ID: INVADED. Usually these newer shows require last minute announcements because Funimation HAS to start streaming them first to get their audience. It’s Aniplex also. if it was SAO, they’d be able to tell us now

Very Proud of Saitama! The marathon did a little better and on par than last weeks lineup for the most part The first episode did 493,000/0.22 which was better than the MHA that aired in the same time slot

No, adding a third rerun will just be unnecessary and be a repeat of what we had before. What's interesting is we don’t have a lot of obvious candidates for replacements. I hope they continue for untested new properties, but I have a feeling out next 3 shows are Mob 2, SAO, and the return of Boruto (which they’ll probably want to start again before Viz catches up with home releases, if not, what’s the point really?. I’m kind of hoping that stays gone)

Are you speculating we won’t even get a premeire to replace OPM and we get even more reruns? That would be lame on a whole other level

Either regular viewers aren’t into it that much or it’s because they are a few weeks old by they air. Either way, the retention for the rest of the block is tight. I’m hoping the marathon break doesn’t drive viewers further away and they find MHA online since it doesn’t appear to be stopping there

They actually wanted to get it the year before but couldn't.

I think you are correct in that Toonami could’ve made more deals like DW but went with “bigger” shows rather than unproven ones. I really think they couldn’t gotten MHA back then but went a different route. It was even mentioned at one point that they waited to see if MHA would be "big" before deciding to go after it, you just can't do that anymore, it's too late then. There were people at IGN who mentioned that Toonami got MHA and they were kind of like "I guess thats good for people that don't have good internet". A TV airing of a popular anime is seen as a syndicated rerun at best, which would be great for a rewatch if they aired 5 days a week, but they don't. Up until this year, it seemed that the strategy was "wait to see if its popular and people ask for it and not take a chance". You have to air newer shows now, it might even be too late for Mob2. Airing too far away from the sub doesn't help either and dub premeires of shows 6 months old don't tend to do better than a few week old dubs of newer shows. You just can't assume people will tune in because it is "popular" or just because you like it. I think they need to make an arrangement similar to the deal that AS had with FOX at one point: 1. Funimation can premeire the dubs on their service a week or 2 behind broadcast 2. it is also announced that Toonami will get it on a delay. This will take away the uncertainty for people who want to know. 3. Toonami airs the show on Funimation's schedule and does not break if they don't break, holidays or not (especially if the holiday is 5 days away from the weekend). If they both want to suspend broadcast, then thats fine, but Funimation is only allowed to be 2 weeks ahead of them. 4. Toonami is allowed to close the gap if Funimation has a delay. This allows Funimation and Toonami to keep their respective viewership. I feel like this is the best way for it to work. Funimation gets their exclusive window, but Toonami get's the benefit of fresh shows. Funimation needs to be transparent about the dub premiering on their service with a Toonami broadcast later. The practice of keeping people in the dark about this until its had a chance to stream is kind of one sided to benefit Funimation. Toonami in turn needs to not delay broadcasts in order to keep their viewers from moving to streaming unless Funimation also decides to delay (a la AOT) which isn't in Funimations best interest since it angers their subscriber base. Toonami needs to adapt to how anime is released now and I think they are getting there. The programmers need to adapt as well and let go of traditional programming practices.