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Dragon Ball Z: The Ascension Cut
brianycpht replied to MasqueradeOverture's topic in Toonami & [adult swim]
I'd like to watch this, but have no way of finding it- 52 replies
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I know right? But they had to “wait and see if it was going to stay popular http://toonamifaithful.com/toonamis-hero-academia-will-finally-happen/ That thinking combined with them rather getting established “names” like Gundam, HxH, OPM, and Jojo firmly established MHA as a streaming show. Now I don’t think Funimation will even let them have the dub premeire if they paid Unfortunately, the idea of Toonami making a show popular is a relic of the past. It will never be the the primary source for premeires like it used to
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I know they don’t and I think they should because they seem to be ok with second dibs on things, but for a person like me who has access to everything but wants to support the block it’s frustrating. They hardly ever announce a show until its streaming for several weeks. It makes me very weary of starting anything on FN. A lot of people will just not watch the Toonami airing if they’ve already started it elsewhere. In this case, the information that it will air on a delay would be helpful, but they seldom give us that. I actually waited 2 years for MHA. I finally relented and streamed the first season. Then they announced it for the block the next week I’m sure they’ll say that their target is people who don’t stream, but I wish they’d set their sights bigger than that- it’s probably too late though
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I’m still 100% certain we get Mob at some point early this year. I know the Reigen special was mistakenly announced to air last year and it would be a good recap of s1. I wonder though where they would slot it? Would they put Fire Force on hiatus again right before it finishes for something like that? I think the smarter move is to replace Fire Force with Mob and give Food Wars a week off since it’s older and not near it’s finale. I do agree we’ll get an announcement this week, even if it’s a stall schedule. They pretty much have to. I would like to see them continue to pick up unknown newer anime with a tighter but reasonable schedule with Funimation. I’d live to see Funimation actually let them premeire something and have a deal like Titan, but I don’t think it can happen that way anymore
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Another rerun announcement would be a letdown for sure. I’m going with a recent show that just started up ID: INVADED. Usually these newer shows require last minute announcements because Funimation HAS to start streaming them first to get their audience. It’s Aniplex also. if it was SAO, they’d be able to tell us now
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New Schedule for 1/4/20- Promised Neverland Reruns
brianycpht replied to 3ngag3's topic in Toonami & [adult swim]
No, adding a third rerun will just be unnecessary and be a repeat of what we had before. What's interesting is we don’t have a lot of obvious candidates for replacements. I hope they continue for untested new properties, but I have a feeling out next 3 shows are Mob 2, SAO, and the return of Boruto (which they’ll probably want to start again before Viz catches up with home releases, if not, what’s the point really?. I’m kind of hoping that stays gone) -
New Schedule for 1/4/20- Promised Neverland Reruns
brianycpht replied to 3ngag3's topic in Toonami & [adult swim]
Are you speculating we won’t even get a premeire to replace OPM and we get even more reruns? That would be lame on a whole other level -
They actually wanted to get it the year before but couldn't.
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I think you are correct in that Toonami could’ve made more deals like DW but went with “bigger” shows rather than unproven ones. I really think they couldn’t gotten MHA back then but went a different route. It was even mentioned at one point that they waited to see if MHA would be "big" before deciding to go after it, you just can't do that anymore, it's too late then. There were people at IGN who mentioned that Toonami got MHA and they were kind of like "I guess thats good for people that don't have good internet". A TV airing of a popular anime is seen as a syndicated rerun at best, which would be great for a rewatch if they aired 5 days a week, but they don't. Up until this year, it seemed that the strategy was "wait to see if its popular and people ask for it and not take a chance". You have to air newer shows now, it might even be too late for Mob2. Airing too far away from the sub doesn't help either and dub premeires of shows 6 months old don't tend to do better than a few week old dubs of newer shows. You just can't assume people will tune in because it is "popular" or just because you like it. I think they need to make an arrangement similar to the deal that AS had with FOX at one point: 1. Funimation can premeire the dubs on their service a week or 2 behind broadcast 2. it is also announced that Toonami will get it on a delay. This will take away the uncertainty for people who want to know. 3. Toonami airs the show on Funimation's schedule and does not break if they don't break, holidays or not (especially if the holiday is 5 days away from the weekend). If they both want to suspend broadcast, then thats fine, but Funimation is only allowed to be 2 weeks ahead of them. 4. Toonami is allowed to close the gap if Funimation has a delay. This allows Funimation and Toonami to keep their respective viewership. I feel like this is the best way for it to work. Funimation gets their exclusive window, but Toonami get's the benefit of fresh shows. Funimation needs to be transparent about the dub premiering on their service with a Toonami broadcast later. The practice of keeping people in the dark about this until its had a chance to stream is kind of one sided to benefit Funimation. Toonami in turn needs to not delay broadcasts in order to keep their viewers from moving to streaming unless Funimation also decides to delay (a la AOT) which isn't in Funimations best interest since it angers their subscriber base. Toonami needs to adapt to how anime is released now and I think they are getting there. The programmers need to adapt as well and let go of traditional programming practices.
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Part of me thinks that catering to the viewers who wouldn’t at least DVR the block so they don’t miss out is a shame. Part of it is the fact that they are still focused on live viewership to get the majority of ad revenue. If you travel but watch on Tuesday, it doesn’t count. Even less so if you don’t watch by 3am. It’s an antiquated system because it heavily draws from the way people used to watch TV. DVR should count for more than it does.
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I have a friend who’s a fitness trainer and he hates how people wait until the New Year to start working out. He’s like, “Just start now, why wait”. Its the way modern society has kind of trained people to operate on a calendar. I’m kind of always not understood why certain families only get together or give gifts during holidays or even that's it’s mandated we do so. It’s kind of off if you only reach out to those people then if you really care about them. I started buying my house in August 2012 and it had legal complications because of a will. My realtor told me that if it wasn’t settled by Thanksgiving not you expect it until January. Sure enough January 2nd all my stuff went through and the deal was made. It literally stalled for the whole month of December I’ve never had a family like that so it’s strange to me I guess. The amount of times I see people on January 2nd posting about how hard it is to go back to work after the whole office had 2 weeks off is odd since I didn’t think that many companies can just shut down for 2 weeks either. I didn’t know there were jobs that gave everyone a winter break One reason I think TV goes off during holidays as well is to promote film attendance. After all, many of the networks are part of a corporate entity that releases films as well
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I think that was before the simuldub initiative really took off. I think AS was in a position in 2016 to make an arrangement, but they got other titles instead and Funimation started doing their own thing
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I hate on this holiday thing personally because I’ve had real life things (buying my house, timely medical treatment for my dying mother) held up “because it’s the holidays” and key people not working the whole month of December. So I’m sorry for my attitude about the whole thing, but I just hate that whole mentality of all normalcy being on pause because it seems like nothing gets done the whole month. I have a job where we don’t get automatic holiday breaks so I never understood it.
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Funimation will never allow these shows to premeire on Toonami without Japanese intervention as long as FunimationNow exists. Even for a CR property like Dr. Stone or Mob. They have too much of a reason to hold them back in order to drive traffic to their site
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I’m finding more and more cable networks (especially on Sundays) are airing their regular shows weekends before the holiday Like all of these networks Thanksgiving weekend (when they decided to also not air Rick and http://www.showbuzzdaily.com/articles/showbuzzdailys-top-150-sunday-cable-originals-network-finals-12-1-2019.html (New Years Weekend 2018) http://www.showbuzzdaily.com/articles/showbuzzdailys-top-150-sunday-cable-originals-network-finals-12-30-2018.html (Christmas weekend 2018http://www.showbuzzdaily.com/articles/showbuzzdailys-top-150-sunday-cable-originals-network-finals-12-23-2018.html Networks like Bravo, TLC, snd E air new programming on those weekends and have healthy viewership , so I don’t understand why AS has an issue with it when you see other networks can not put their shows on hiatus for 3 weeks. Is it because it’s Saturday and that’s riskier?Is DVR not a factor? So only live viewers matter? I’m guessing it’s because Toonami pays for each airing and they only get one shot to make a rating.
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At least in that regard, AMC owns the platform it streams on so it still helps them. In the case of Toonami, FunimationNow (or pirate sites) get the benefit. If it was CR, HBOMAX or AS.com, it’d be a different story
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Yeah, but we also don’t have the next 8 episodes of that on a competing streaming service ready to watch the way it’ll eventually air on TV. They’d lose all their viewers
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I actually have mentioned that and I think she gets that because it’s a production thing. The episodes don’t exist in dub form yet. But in Toonami’s case, they have them ready to go and are just not airing them because of what we both perceive to be an outdated TV practice when live viewership isn’t the end all be all. It’s particularly frustrating for her when she already is hanging back several episodes to watch with me on the block when the episodes are already dubbed and available. To delay further just makes it seem more of a less efficient way to watch TBH, we record the majority of the block and watch it throughout the week. We’ve also traveled and watched the app while on the go. We would continue to do so every week regardless of a holiday/vacation . So to us, it seems silly to have to pause the block because they feel like “no one watches TV” the 2nd half of December. I’ve mentioned it before, but all the normal shows she watches on other cable networks that air in Sundays continue without interruption as do many AS originals. I don’t understand why Toonami in particular needs to be off 5 days before each holiday.