fuggnificent Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 i found it just sitting on the new books shelf and picked it up. it has no holds on it so no one is trying to read it. i dunno how much of it is true. apparently she was dressing as a women and sneaking around in public for years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bnmjy Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 Fun fact: Caitlyn as a girl's given drastically dropped in popularity in 2016. :fap: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuggnificent Posted May 14, 2017 Author Share Posted May 14, 2017 Fun fact: Caitlyn as a girl's given drastically dropped in popularity in 2016. :fap: yah i saw that on facebook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bouvre Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 i found it just sitting on the new books shelf and picked it up. it has no holds on it so no one is trying to read it. i dunno how much of it is true. apparently she was dressing as a women and sneaking around in public for years. That's the kind of information that's hard to verify since it's secret, but two things 1. Generally speaking, nonfiction that doesn't at least stretch the truth tends to be boring as fuck, and an unreliable memory or even bias doesn't negate the category of nonfiction. Even a story that says "I imagine," and then makes something up -- no matter how outlandish they get with it, is still telling the truth, because it concedes to the narrator's imagination. But whatever it describes can still be vivid and enduring. There's a surprising amount that creative nonfiction can claim as nonfiction. 2. Knowing a significant number of trans folks, and relying on my own experiences with gender, I can say "sneaking around as a woman" is at least feasible and rings true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuggnificent Posted May 14, 2017 Author Share Posted May 14, 2017 That's the kind of information that's hard to verify since it's secret, but two things 1. Generally speaking, nonfiction that doesn't at least stretch the truth tends to be boring as fuck, and an unreliable memory or even bias doesn't negate the category of nonfiction. Even a story that says "I imagine," and then makes something up -- no matter how outlandish they get with it, is still telling the truth, because it concedes to the narrator's imagination. But whatever it describes can still be vivid and enduring. There's a surprising amount that creative nonfiction can claim as nonfiction. 2. Knowing a significant number of trans folks, and relying on my own experiences with gender, I can say "sneaking around as a woman" is at least feasible and rings true. i wasnt saying it wasnt untrue but he being such a public figure...it seems so desperate...dangerous...and really sad. it was also very shocking so part of me felt doubt and as if she were saying that to make the book more interesting. the first page she defiantly declares that the book is HER truth and as true as her recollection allows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bouvre Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 i wasnt saying it wasnt untrue but he being such a public figure...it seems so desperate...dangerous...and really sad. it was also very shocking so part of me felt doubt and as if she were saying that to make the book more interesting. the first page she defiantly declares that the book is HER truth and as true as her recollection allows. Her truth might deviate from anybody else's account of truth though. "True as her recollection allows" still allows for people to contend with her truth without nullifying it as nonfiction too. She might've been a public figure, but it's not hard to blend in. I looked directly at Robert Pinsky -- one of my favorite poets -- and still doubted he was in fact Robert Pinsky, and so I didn't approach him. Now if Robert Pinsky dressed as a femme? I certainly wouldn't have recognized him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1938 Packard Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 I didn't even care about Bruce Jenner. Just another meat head that got famous for throwing things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilosipherStoned Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 I had to think about who that is, but that's the trannie all the news was using to bait in LGBTs a while back right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1938 Packard Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 I had to think about who that is, but that's the trannie all the news was using to bait in LGBTs a while back right? Used to be an Olympic superstar. Should have been the "special" Olympics. "Duh... I throw stuff and I eat Wheaties." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilosipherStoned Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 Oh yeah.. then became a "television personality" after the sex change right? Those words are more of an oxymoron than military intelligence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
André Toulon Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 I didn't even care about Bruce Jenner. Just another meat head that got famous for throwing things. Meanwhile at the custodian laugholympics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sawdamizer Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 Used to be an Olympic superstar. Should have been the "special" Olympics. "Duh... I throw stuff and I eat Wheaties." I'd say there is a 99% chance you've cleaned up her after spunk at some point in your elustreous career as a pro spunkmopper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerfectFlowingHair Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 Caitlyn Jenner medaled in the Olymics as Bruce Jenner, then became Caitlyn Jenner, got on the cover of Vanity Fair, was a poster child for trans rights til she declared she was Republican. Good luck getting any traction as a trans Republican. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bnmjy Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 Caitlyn Jenner medaled in the Olymics as Bruce Jenner, then became Caitlyn Jenner, got on the cover of Vanity Fair, was a poster child for trans rights til she declared she was Republican. Good luck getting any traction as a trans Republican. Eh? I believe she was always a Republican. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1pooh4u Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 I didn't even care about Bruce Jenner. Just another meat head that got famous for throwing things. She didn't just throw things she jumped far and ran fast too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerfectFlowingHair Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 Eh? I believe she was always a Republican. Yes, but that part wasn't always publicly known. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuggnificent Posted May 14, 2017 Author Share Posted May 14, 2017 She didn't just throw things she jumped far and ran fast too According to her there was some kind of tension with the Russians back then and when she beat them she became an American Hero! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1pooh4u Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 According to her there was some kind of tension with the Russians back then and when she beat them she became an American Hero! She did get on a box of Wheaties. That's about all I know > Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phillies Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 FUCK CAITLYN JENNER / Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phillies Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 She did get on a box of Wheaties. That's about all I know > Zeni should go on a box of Wheaties Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enad Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 Maybe because much like Jenner itself the book is dolled up in pretty colors on the outside but on the inside it remains full of shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapinator_X Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 At this point, everyone is realizing that maybe Caitlyn was really as vapid as the other Kardashian's and Jenner's all along. Her feud with Kris gave the false illusion that she was the only sane one, but nope, no one on that show is free from the shallow vanity that comes with the territory of reality TV rich people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1938 Packard Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 She didn't just throw things she jumped far and ran fast too Bet he's not doing that these days. That's life in the fast lane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
God-Says-No Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 well they are just awful so yea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mochi Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 the fact that she has the same political beliefs as Master-Debater could be part of why nobody likes her book Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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