Charlie Kirk Fatally Shot, Dead at 31

[André Toulon]

Lol, they cancelling Stephen King?

Wut?

[discolé monade]

3 minutes ago, André Toulon said:

Lol, they cancelling Stephen King?

Wut?

"I apologize for saying Charlie Kirk advocated stoning gays. What he actually demonstrated was how some people cherry-pick Biblical passages." S. King/twitter

[rpgamer]

Yeah no. Another of those "out of context" things that's still telling for having even brought it up. Nobody ever says "the bible says gays should be stoned" without at least being on board with the idea.

[scoobdog]

2 hours ago, André Toulon said:

Lol, they cancelling Stephen King?

Wut?

Stephen King is a straight up dude.

[[classic swim]]

I’ve seen no one, and I mean absolutely no one on the computer or otherwise point out none of these employers give a single shit about this shooting.

The foreman of the laundry basket factory in Connecticut is more than delighted just having 1 free reason to let the idle slave hand go without. 

“Ohhhmmmm I don’t support people losing daeee jobs bottttttt” No you’re a fascist. You are point blank a miserable fucking fascist. You don’t DRAW LINES in the sand whether censorship’s a justified tactic. If you even have to hesitate about it then you support fascism. 

[_lost_username_]

5 hours ago, scoobdog said:

The governor keeps using the term radicalized when the description suggest a very personal animosity with Kirk.  In fact, it suggests it may not even be political.

I don't think "right" or "left" are important and just diversions. As far as we know, the guy wasn't part of any organized group. I think the shooting is another story of someone self-radicalizing and conditioning themselves to take that ultimate step. It doesn't matter if they are right or left or whatever if they're someone who is in a state of mind where they can do that.

There's no outreach for people who might feel that way to recognize that in themselves and try to put a stop to, unless they want to either go to jail, put in a behavioral unit or most often ignored. There's also the access to weapons in the U.S., particularly states like Utah where people are preparing for doomsday. Plus, because of the way the freedom of speech is interpreted, there's nothing to stop people from engaging in hate speech that dehumanizes people on top of advocating taking away their freedom and their lives. 

[_lost_username_]

4 hours ago, discolé monade said:

this is the fucking hill this country is going to die on. 

*sigh*

 

Probably inevitable considering our terrible constitution. The framers were at their core anti-democratic and it was written as a bulwark against the will of the people. Donald Trump is probably closer to them in regards to their dislike of democracy than actual Democrats. 

Don't believe me, look at all the anti-democratic things in it: the Senate, the limitations of seats in the House, the fact that the head of state and the head of government are one and the same (unlike most functional democracies), lifetime appointments, no rules in place to determine when a state is too small in population or too large in population, etc., etc. Any change is pretty much impossible with the way they set it up for amendments. 

[SwimOdin]

I’m so glad I’m cloistered in my work right now that I do t have time to see the inanity of all of this. It’s just so bizarre.

[Jman]

Performative nonsense meant to rile up their base before elections.

Meanwhile with Dear Leader.

 

 

[rpgamer]

2 minutes ago, Jman said:

Performative nonsense meant to rile up their base before elections.

Meanwhile with Dear Leader.

It's... actually kinda rolling back over into the hilarious to see just how blatantly obvious the "performative nonsense" is on display. Like. Every reaction is clearly communicating "nobody actually gives a shit about the guy or what happened, everybody only cares about how they can use this to their advantage."

Which, yeah, I guess in itself is a little tragic.. but also entirely on brand...

[_lost_username_]

5 minutes ago, Jman said:

Performative nonsense meant to rile up their base before elections.

Meanwhile with Dear Leader.

 

 

Everything that caters to MAGA and Republicans is very performative. I am bemused that there are people that buy into all the bad faith and fakeness. The only way I can explain it is that they really, really want to buy into it. If someone I knew personally tried that with me, I'd tell them they were a terrible actor.

It's kind of like Democrats trying to be "serious" people to me when poo-pooing any sort of change in the status quo and not listening to an army of paid (and wealthy) consultants before making a move ... usually in a direction that goes nowhere.

[scoobdog]

1 hour ago, _lost_username_ said:

I don't think "right" or "left" are important and just diversions. As far as we know, the guy wasn't part of any organized group. I think the shooting is another story of someone self-radicalizing and conditioning themselves to take that ultimate step. It doesn't matter if they are right or left or whatever if they're someone who is in a state of mind where they can do that.

There's no outreach for people who might feel that way to recognize that in themselves and try to put a stop to, unless they want to either go to jail, put in a behavioral unit or most often ignored. There's also the access to weapons in the U.S., particularly states like Utah where people are preparing for doomsday. Plus, because of the way the freedom of speech is interpreted, there's nothing to stop people from engaging in hate speech that dehumanizes people on top of advocating taking away their freedom and their lives. 

A lot of this goes away when you have an environment where you can express yourself without validation or condemnation.  An objective, neutral perspective keeps you balanced. Charlie Kirk wasn’t that by any stretch, but even if he was, he also wasn’t going to be in any position to help.  The more culpable parties are those closest to him.  Distress over having your personal connections attacked can be unsettling and traumatic, and if your family isn’t listening, you’re going to get more desperate and start taking more extreme measures.  Again, this isn’t radicalization, it’s extreme coping behavior,

[scoobdog]

25 minutes ago, Jman said:

Performative nonsense meant to rile up their base before elections.

Meanwhile with Dear Leader…

… is taking full advantage of the sap who took a bullet doing his dirty work.  Seems like everyone is having a blast except poor Charlie the prop.

[discolé monade]

well, i'm not entirely sure how to feel about this.

are we talking registered democrats? are we talking registered democrats running for office (local/state/fed)? POC's? 

what exactly will this vengeance be?

“With God as my witness, we are going to use every resource we have at the Department of Justice, Homeland Security and throughout this government to identify, disrupt, dismantle and destroy these networks and make America safe again for the American people,” he added. “It will happen, and we will do it in Charlie’s name.”

[molarbear]

Someone may have picked this up already

https://www.newson6.com/story/68c88eebac0c43bbe868ce1f/charlie-kirk-moment-of-silence-oklahoma-schools

douche nozzle wants a moment of silence for Charlie Kirk at all schools in OK tomorrow....

Funny thing about that, the superintendent doesn't have that type of authority, and most schools are responding as you'd expect  

[Raptorpat]

40 minutes ago, _lost_username_ said:

Everything that caters to MAGA and Republicans is very performative.

when asked about the double standard

 

[Jman]

2 minutes ago, Raptorpat said:

when asked about the double standard

 

To be fair, that could be the dementia acting up.

[Raptorpat]

in the clip he says gov walz never asked him to do it

the day after the assassination he said something along the lines of he wasn't going to call gov walz because walz is crazy and it would be a waste of time

[_lost_username_]

I keep on reading the title of this as "fatally shot dead" instead of "fatally shot, dead."

[naraku360]

20 minutes ago, _lost_username_ said:

I keep on reading the title of this as "fatally shot dead" instead of "fatally shot, dead."

I keep reading the title as "finally shot" and I also find it very funny.

[André Toulon]

Strange...i read it as "lol"

[Raptorpat]

7 hours ago, discolé monade said:

this is the fucking hill this country is going to die on. 

*sigh*

[Top Gun]

Feeling's mutual, bitch!

[tsar4]