scientology is the most underrated religion outcha'

[Mix]

May not have the knock out power of the big boys, but has the ring generalship and technical savvy of any that came before or since

[BlackNoir]

I legit find it less batshit crazy than Christianity.

[argylepancakez]

the name sounds so made up (it is). like Republic City in TLoK

[Seight]

Plus you get to meet Tom Cruise.

Which is nice, if you're into that.

[SwimModSponges]

I dunno, my religion is pretty baller. 

[Codename: Jackass]

The ability to persuade easily manipulated people into giving gigantic sums of money for no payoff rivals the Catholic church in its dark ages heyday.

And their smear campaigns and relentless lawyers are probably scarier in this day and age than the Inquisition.

[Codename: Jackass]

Maybe one day I'll sign that billion year contract with the Sea Org and work my way up so I can be slapped around and screamed at by a red-faced, impotently-enraged David Miscagive.

Might be a fun way to lose the next forty years of my life.

[HardcoreHunter]

9 hours ago, Radical Left said:

I legit find it less batshit crazy than Christianity.

Christianity made the mistake of writing past Genesis. Scientology just covered the origin part of the story about alien slaves crashing into a volcano and their souls inhabiting humanity. They didn't go further with it like trying to explain a 400 year old man gathering 2 of every animal, or people turning into salt, or the worlds largest man standing at a staggering 6'1'' would crush towns and send armies running in terror until he got killed by a young boy throwing a rock, and despite his army still having greater numbers, all retreat in fear like it's the Empire at the end of the Return of the Jedi.  Pretty much why a Priest is there to interpret the bible to people. No rational person is hearing those stories, and saying "yeah that totally happened, it's just so plausible".  

[Top Gun]

44 minutes ago, HardcoreHunter said:

Christianity made the mistake of writing past Genesis. Scientology just covered the origin part of the story about alien slaves crashing into a volcano and their souls inhabiting humanity. They didn't go further with it like trying to explain a 400 year old man gathering 2 of every animal, or people turning into salt, or the worlds largest man standing at a staggering 6'1'' would crush towns and send armies running in terror until he got killed by a young boy throwing a rock, and despite his army still having greater numbers, all retreat in fear like it's the Empire at the end of the Return of the Jedi.  Pretty much why a Priest is there to interpret the bible to people. No rational person is hearing those stories, and saying "yeah that totally happened, it's just so plausible".  

...absolutely none of that was written by Christianity. Have you ever so much as heard the word " Torah" before?

[cyberbully]

10 minutes ago, Top Gun said:

...absolutely none of that was written by Christianity. Have you ever so much as heard the word " Torah" before?

You're right...Christianity just bit it and called it the gospel.

[Still Me]

I care for no religion 

[SwimModSponges]

25 minutes ago, Top Gun said:

...absolutely none of that was written by Christianity. Have you ever so much as heard the word " Torah" before?

You can't claim Judaism isn't part of christianity. 

Thats like saying Jurassic Park has nothing to do with Jurassic World. 

[HardcoreHunter]

19 minutes ago, Top Gun said:

...absolutely none of that was written by Christianity. Have you ever so much as heard the word " Torah" before?

They still believe it, it's old testament. New Testament has all the really plausible stuff like walking on water, rising from the dead, making water into wine and duplicating fish and bread, pregnant virgins, implying that people can live in a desert for 40 days and nights without food, water, or shelter wearing only rags. Christianity would be like if someone found Scientology, fully bought into it, then decided it needed to be longer; and edit out some of the original stuff because pigs taste good. 

[SwimModSponges]

Then Islam be all like "yes, and..."

[Top Gun]

1 hour ago, SwimModSponges said:

You can't claim Judaism isn't part of christianity. 

Thats like saying Jurassic Park has nothing to do with Jurassic World. 

Based on, yes, but I'm beyond sick of him spewing bullshit like he has any idea what he's talking about. 

[cyberbully]

23 minutes ago, Top Gun said:

Based on, yes, but I'm beyond sick of him spewing bullshit like he has any idea what he's talking about. 

Well, I for one don't mean to belittle anyone's faith on a personal level.....So I'll not further try to drag anyone's beliefs through the dirt.  I get overzealous sometimes.

[HardcoreHunter]

29 minutes ago, Top Gun said:

Based on, yes, but I'm beyond sick of him spewing bullshit like he has any idea what he's talking about. 

Except I've been right and you're kinda being an asshole over a joke thread. 

[HardcoreHunter]

Lets see I said that covid vaccine would be in clinical late August to mid September. I said how long it would take for supplies to be restocked.  I said a vaccine would be approved for a first run Late November to Late January. I said that Hurricanes happen every year between late August and mid December like clock work.  I said I spoke to voice actors and funimation about question's I've had. Even back then I said take it for a grain of salt, but I've been pretty damn accurate on all of my educated guesses I made back in March. The VA and Funi thing is more of a matter of fact though; that you and empress felt was impossible for someone to send emails and receive replies. Which I now have to publish all of my private conversations because some people go insane asshole mode. 

Also my post about religion is a joke. It's overly generalizing things. You can make anything sound petty if you overly generalize shit and cherry pick the most insane or mundane parts. Take a break for a while if shit online is getting under your skin to that level. You're taking shit too seriously. 

[Distinct Lunatic]

3 hours ago, HardcoreHunter said:

Christianity made the mistake of writing past Genesis. Scientology just covered the origin part of the story about alien slaves crashing into a volcano and their souls inhabiting humanity. They didn't go further with it like trying to explain a 400 year old man gathering 2 of every animal, or people turning into salt, or the worlds largest man standing at a staggering 6'1'' would crush towns and send armies running in terror until he got killed by a young boy throwing a rock, and despite his army still having greater numbers, all retreat in fear like it's the Empire at the end of the Return of the Jedi.  Pretty much why a Priest is there to interpret the bible to people. No rational person is hearing those stories, and saying "yeah that totally happened, it's just so plausible".  

Funny that you mention that,

there's this one guy at my workplace that's 66 now, and he's a major MAJOR koolaid drinker / bible thumper. If you could talk to him about normal things he was alright to talk to, but every other conversation was about God/The Bible, and every other other conversation was about people that have died and how "you'll die one day and you need to know where you're going". Quite literally the first time I talked to him he sprung his religious bs on me, saying "Some people call themselves Christian but say they only believe in part of the bible, and that's not the way I see it (my name), you either believe every last word of it or you don't believe in it at all, and that's me I believe every single word of it". I shit you not that was the first conversation I ever had with the dude. He'd piss off a lot of us cause when we're in our break room he always wants to talk about the bible, and he'll always turn to radio to one of those religious stations so he can hear the gospel.

Edited August 29, 2020 by Distinct Lunatic

[SwimModSponges]

Yeah, in rural WI you're in the minority if you don't believe god made man first then marched all the animals past him so he could give them all names.

Everything was made at the same time, dinosaurs and whatnot died in the flood.

[HardcoreHunter]

10 minutes ago, Distinct Lunatic said:

Funny that you mention that,

there's this one guy at my workplace that's 66 now, and he's a major MAJOR koolaid drinker / bible thumper. If you could talk to him about normal things he was alright to talk to, but every other conversation was about God/The Bible, and every other other conversation was about people that have died and how "you'll die one day and you need to know where you're going". Quite literally the first time I talked to him he sprung his religious bs on me, saying "Some people call themselves Christian but say they only believe in part of the bible, and that's not the way I see it (my name), you either believe every last word of it or you don't believe in it at all, and that's me I believe every single word of it". I shit you not that was the first conversation I ever had with the dude. He'd piss off a lot of us cause when we're in our break room he always wants to talk about the bible, and he'll always turn to radio to one of those religious stations so he can hear the gospel.

My friends uncle is a Cardinal so his family gets pretty religious. I'm fine with people having a religion, it's what they want to do. I only ever get bothered when people bring me or my soul into it. It's like don't worry about my soul. His family after 23 years of knowing them have gotten pretty chill over that though. My one friend from HS though was a born again christian.

All 7 years that I knew him in school fucker was never religious. Now he's the type of person that will spam bible quotes on facebook, and claim that every good thing that has ever happened in life is because of god, and only through god can you be blessed.  I'm not going to say this to him, but motherfucker your dad's brain has gone to mush and he's in a wheelchair. The guys younger than my dad and looks old enough to be his grandfather. Did you or him just not pray hard enough or what? Again I'm not going to say that; but I sure do think it.

If a soul is a thing more likely than not it's not going to have your memories or personality. It'll probably keep political views but those just seem to be hardwired in there and nothing can change them. Pretty much just a formless shape devoid of thought basking in the light of god in a void of nothingness.  That or it's like the cartoons where you get wings and a halo and everyone is just chill with each other because that clearly works on earth. 

[HardcoreHunter]

2 hours ago, Top Gun said:

Based on, yes, but I'm beyond sick of him spewing bullshit like he has any idea what he's talking about. 

I don't know, sounded like you were spouting bullshit with no idea what you were talking about. I thought by now you'd be tired of eating the same thing

[resurrected]

Sounds like a lot of people have religious opinions, but didn't take the time to actually learn about the religion they want to denounce. 

As someone who has studied theology, my advice is, learn more about the subject you are supporting or denying. 

I don't care what religion you support, but once you take shots at a religion, it's fair game for me to call yours stupid. 

Also, Goliath was not 6'1'' tall. He was 9 and half feet tall. 6 cubits and a span. A cubit is the length fro your elbow to the tip of your middle finger. Around 18 inches. A span is the span of your hand, which is about 9 inches. 

Like I said, educate yourself more. It is imperative. 

[resurrected]

Far as Judaism and Christianity goes, Christians had nothing to do with the writings of the books of the Bible. 

Christianity as a religion, didn't happen until many many years after the death of Christ. 

Jews do not accept Jesus as their savior. That is a Christian thing. Hence the name, CHRISTian. 

Majority of the Old Testament's stories are regarding the creation of earth, and life, the suffering and bondage of the Jews who were enslaved by the Egyptians, the great flood and Noah, Moses's journey to lead the people of Egypt out of bondage, the parting of the Red Sea by Moses and the story of the Ten Commandments. Which was ideally brought upon because of the dissension among the people who grew impatient and built a calf made of gold, to worship. Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image. 

The books of Moses (five of them) are the Torah. This is what the Jews follow. 

Christians believe Jesus is the savior and that one cannot enter the kingdom of Heaven without first accepting Jesus Christ as their savior. 

Quite simple. You just have to be willing to read it and I'd recommend getting a concordance to go along with the Bible to help you better understand what you are reading, as King James's English can be a bit hard to interpret. A Living Bible might be the easier choice, but I'd still recommend a concordance companion.

[SwimModSponges]

Here's the bible guide you want to read:

https://archive.org/details/AsimovsGuideToTheBibleTheOldAndNewTestaments2Vols.IsaacAsimov/page/n79/mode/2up

[HardcoreHunter]

This guy's saying 6'6'' so the translation from Hebrew I guess is debated as 2 different things. So either he was like a foot taller than the largest human to ever live, or he was like 4'' taller than me, but still shorter than Hulk Hogan. 

[resurrected]

He's wrong.

[HardcoreHunter]

1 hour ago, resurrected said:

Like I said, educate yourself more. It is imperative. 

To who? It's all allegory, fiction, and exaggerated history. My point was that it was funny how people of other religions shit talk how nutty other cults like Scientology are.

[resurrected]

Just now, HardcoreHunter said:

To who? It's all allegory, fiction, and exaggerated history. My point was that it was funny how people of other religions shit talk how nutty other cults like Scientology are.

It's imperative to most of the population of the world. 

More people believe in a higher power, than those who do not. 

It is your opinion that it is fiction. Not everyone agrees with that sentiment. 

People have fought and died over religious battles since B.C. times. Just to think about all the different religions out there is really overwhelming. And all of those people would argue that religion is not fictional. 

Then you have people like me, who don't care what anyone else believes, or if they even do believe. It's not my place to judge on that topic. But I will defend what I believe when there is a reason to.

[Chapinator_X]

Unless you live in hub cities for Scientology, it feels like a religion you have to go out of your way to join. Jehovahs Witnesses have an easier time recruiting the weak and gullible than this weird scifi faith for the rich.

[HardcoreHunter]

7 minutes ago, resurrected said:

It's imperative to most of the population of the world. 

More people believe in a higher power, than those who do not. 

It is your opinion that it is fiction. Not everyone agrees with that sentiment. 

People have fought and died over religious battles since B.C. times. Just to think about all the different religions out there is really overwhelming. And all of those people would argue that religion is not fictional. 

Then you have people like me, who don't care what anyone else believes, or if they even do believe. It's not my place to judge on that topic. But I will defend what I believe when there is a reason to.

So out of all the stuff I said...the only part you took huge issue with to stand up for, was my off cuff comment about Goliath being slightly above average height... Okay I guess we all choose our battles.

People dying over something stupid doesn't make it infallible. If star wars fans and Lord of the rings fans started killing each other I wouldn't use their deaths as a proving point for how super serious this stuff is.

Worse when you consider how many wars have been over the same God, but different takes 

 

[HardcoreHunter]

22 minutes ago, resurrected said:

He's wrong.

The guy spent years learning at seminary. 

[SwimModSponges]

Lemme just interject here real quick with a "its not an opinion whether or not something is factual'.

Also another plug for that link i shared.

Its the whole book free to read.

[Top Gun]

2 hours ago, HardcoreHunter said:

I don't know, sounded like you were spouting bullshit with no idea what you were talking about. I thought by now you'd be tired of eating the same thing

...the literal fuck are you babbling about? You were factually wrong about a very basic concept in this very thread. Most of the "evidence" you post is irrelevant "well my friend's dad knows about X" anecdotal bullshit. (Man your lawyer buddy sure was wrong about McNuggets, now wasn't he?) A lot of the rest doesn't even support your own conclusions. Like, if you want to present shit as being your own opinion, that's fine. But that's not what you do. You pretend to be an authority about any subject you talk about despite having literally no expertise in most of it. 

Don't want to be called on this shit? Then get your ass informed before you post. 

[resurrected]

21 minutes ago, HardcoreHunter said:

So out of all the stuff I said...the only part you took huge issue with to stand up for, was my off cuff comment about Goliath being slightly above average height... Okay I guess we all choose our battles.

People dying over something stupid doesn't make it infallible. If star wars fans and Lord of the rings fans started killing each other I wouldn't use their deaths as a proving point for how super serious this stuff is.

Worse when you consider how many wars have been over the same God, but different takes 

 

See, when I made my first comment, it was an open statement. I wasn't talking to you. Even if I did take exception to the misinformation you posted. When I am talking to a specific person, I quote them, like I am now.

Comparing holy wars to Star Wars and Lord of the Rings is astronomically stupid. See, what you're doing here is forcing your beliefs that religion is fiction onto others. I am not forcing my beliefs onto you or anyone else. Nor am I disrespecting anyone else's religion. I'm pretty sure no one here even knows my religious beliefs. So, no. I didn't pick any battle. You are fighting an imaginary war here. 

[HardcoreHunter]

13 minutes ago, Top Gun said:

...the literal fuck are you babbling about? You were factually wrong about a very basic concept in this very thread. Most of the "evidence" you post is irrelevant "well my friend's dad knows about X" anecdotal bullshit. (Man your lawyer buddy sure was wrong about McNuggets, now wasn't he?) A lot of the rest doesn't even support your own conclusions. Like, if you want to present shit as being your own opinion, that's fine. But that's not what you do. You pretend to be an authority about any subject you talk about despite having literally no expertise in most of it. 

Don't want to be called on this shit? Then get your ass informed before you post. 

Man you sound like a retard with a grudge. Go back to DF if you want to act like an ass. You've been on my ass ever since I said stores will restock supplies back in March. "You don't know that, you're not an expert to tell people not to panic and hoard". Thanks for that you really put everyones mind at ease, glad we have you around. For this shit how the fuck am I presenting myself as an expert. You see it that way because you're looking for something to be a bitch over. I said it was funny x vs y thinks y is crazy. Yeah I really needed to source why I had an opinion. Maybe I should just follow you around the board and make sure you source everything then act like a cunt when called on it. It would get old faster than I've put up with your dumbass 

[HardcoreHunter]

17 minutes ago, resurrected said:

See, when I made my first comment, it was an open statement. I wasn't talking to you. Even if I did take exception to the misinformation you posted. When I am talking to a specific person, I quote them, like I am now.

Comparing holy wars to Star Wars and Lord of the Rings is astronomically stupid. See, what you're doing here is forcing your beliefs that religion is fiction onto others. I am not forcing my beliefs onto you or anyone else. Nor am I disrespecting anyone else's religion. I'm pretty sure no one here even knows my religious beliefs. So, no. I didn't pick any battle. You are fighting an imaginary war here. 

You shouldn't diss people's religions like that, the force surrounds all living things. I'm not fighting any battle. I'm defending my opinion. Topgun says I can't have that opinion, and you're saying my opinion is wrong. So as far as I see it, I'm the only one who isn't trying to censor others opinions or beliefs. 

[resurrected]

1 hour ago, HardcoreHunter said:

You shouldn't diss people's religions like that, the force surrounds all living things. I'm not fighting any battle. I'm defending my opinion. Topgun says I can't have that opinion, and you're saying my opinion is wrong. So as far as I see it, I'm the only one who isn't trying to censor others opinions or beliefs. 

For me personally, I don't agree with your opinion. But I haven't disrespected you in the slightest way about having that opinion. As a matter of fact, this is the first time I stated I don't agree with it, but I haven't been arguing that fact at all. 

I argued the size of Goliath. Because I know I am right. When I know I'm right, I will state that I am right. But if it's all just fiction, then even still, a 9 ft tall opposing giant is far better for the story than a 6 ft one. 

I haven't tried to censor anyone's beliefs. That's you misreading what I'm saying.

In fact, when you made the comment about holy wars being stupid and comparing them to what is known without a doubt to be fiction, you insulted religion. Which is not what I have done at all. 

But I can see there's no point in talking this out any further. And believe me, I'm cool with that. It's Saturday night, and I can think of at least 19 things better to do than this.

[HardcoreHunter]

3 minutes ago, resurrected said:

In fact, when you made the comment about holy wars being stupid and comparing them to what is known without a doubt to be fiction, you insulted religion. Which is not what I have done at all. 

But I can see there's no point in talking this out any further. And believe me, I'm cool with that. It's Saturday night, and I can think of at least 19 things better to do than this.

I don't see any sense in a holy war. Really it feels contrary to the message of religion. 

I hear ya, I'm in my yard listening to music and having a drink with a small fire. 

[HardcoreHunter]

Oops forgot to post a pic, don't want to come off as an expert to anyone.