André Toulon Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 Look, I get it.....There is a level of civility that y'all want to create here.....But can you at least just open it to shitty users like myself on some sort of prior criteria? You know, so the imaginary users that you think will come here when this board is "open to the public" won't see the real dysfunction? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stilgar Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 If they really want that level of civility they better get rid of pretty much every person here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue_Alphonse Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 Look, I get it.....There is a level of civility that y'all want to create here.....But can you at least just open it to shitty users like myself on some sort of prior criteria? You know, so the imaginary users that you think will come here when this board is "open to the public" won't see the real dysfunction? You have rants... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
André Toulon Posted March 2, 2017 Author Share Posted March 2, 2017 I wish it was still here tho I wanna see that boo fuggz thread So you admit.....You like the venom. It's ok, we all do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
André Toulon Posted March 2, 2017 Author Share Posted March 2, 2017 You have rants... It's not the same and you know it....Everyone knows it....That's why it's not here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stilgar Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 You have rants... Rants is not dumpster fire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaiusIuliusCaesar Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 We could have new users here but ppl choose this isolation you have no idea... I once moderated an ib facebook group, and it all exploded when my best friend invited two of his irl friends... ibers are xenophobes... in a bad way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaiusIuliusCaesar Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 I wish it was still here tho I wanna see that boo fuggz thread boo 8/10, fugs 6/10, honest judgment is honest. edit, according to some people I am generous with praise... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
André Toulon Posted March 2, 2017 Author Share Posted March 2, 2017 you have no idea... I once moderated an ib facebook group, and it all exploded when my best friend invited two of his irl friends... ibers are xenophobes... in a bad way. So people trying to evade IBers isn't anything new....Good to know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scope Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 I wish it was still here tho I wanna see that boo fuggz thread You didn't miss anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 I liked Dumpster Fire, it felt warm and cozy over there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CutieQuesadilla Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 i wanna know what happened Nothing new poofers. I kind of want to put emphasis on fuggs thinking the animosity from me came out of no where. I tried being her friend, but she's the type of friend that holds onto any piece of information for when she turns on you. She felt some type of way when i became friends with Sawdamizer, someone she did not like at the time. Before that, Buddy knows she insulted me before she even knew who i was when i started posting again because he said something to me; thus, giving me attention. Then i was a weave having transvestite. It's no different than fuggs contacting people in Buddy's real life because she thinks she can destroy him. It's no different than people on the boards thinking you're hot and she threw a tantrum about how they were gay and you didn't even have real tits. I don't take kindly to people trying to use things against me. No one would. Fuggs is not a victim. Her thread got deleted after i got her to post a picture of her vagina, which made her incredibly salty because people cut her up about it. That's all i have to say. I'm not going to throw a tantrum about my thread. I'll make another one and post my glorious tits in it, duh. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CutieQuesadilla Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 Nautius Maximus[/member] I'm quite nice and i usually give people chances. I'm free spirited and kind, but i don't put up with bullshit or ignore people's stupidity to spare them from reality. Don't make me dislike you and i won't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PenguinBoss Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 Dumpster Fires was too good for us. We don't deserve it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Distortedreasoning Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 i actually agree with this. not a bad idea to have a folder like dumpster fire since there are people that want it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mthor Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 Look, I get it.....There is a level of civility that y'all want to create here.....But can you at least just open it to shitty users like myself on some sort of prior criteria? You know, so the imaginary users that you think will come here when this board is "open to the public" won't see the real dysfunction? Could there be some kind of rank limit? Like, you couldn't access it until you were say, a Citizen? That would give any random noobs a chance to get used to the place before they were allowed in the bad part of town. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
André Toulon Posted March 2, 2017 Author Share Posted March 2, 2017 Nothing new poofers. I kind of want to put emphasis on fuggs thinking the animosity from me came out of no where. I tried being her friend, but she's the type of friend that holds onto any piece of information for when she turns on you. She felt some type of way when i became friends with Sawdamizer, someone she did not like at the time. Before that, Buddy knows she insulted me before she even knew who i was when i started posting again because he said something to me; thus, giving me attention. Then i was a weave having transvestite. It's no different than fuggs contacting people in Buddy's real life because she thinks she can destroy him. It's no different than people on the boards thinking you're hot and she threw a tantrum about how they were gay and you didn't even have real tits. I don't take kindly to people trying to use things against me. No one would. Fuggs is not a victim. Her thread got deleted after i got her to post a picture of her vagina, which made her incredibly salty because people cut her up about it. That's all i have to say. I'm not going to throw a tantrum about my thread. I'll make another one and post my glorious tits in it, duh. This is fuggz in a nutshell.....Childish, vindictive, and ultimately just petty to the point of insanity. Revenge is one thing, but she has this weird obsession with retaliation that leaves her friendless and 90% of it is based on some made-up shit in her head. I personally enjoy it. My ex and my girl both insist that no woman acts this retarded over someone they haven't fucked, but I just have to keep telling them.....You haven't met fuggz. She has nothing else going on. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CutieQuesadilla Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 This is fuggz in a nutshell.....Childish, vindictive, and ultimately just petty to the point of insanity. Revenge is one thing, but she has this weird obsession with retaliation that leaves her friendless and 90% of it is based on some made-up shit in her head. I personally enjoy it. My ex and my girl both insist that no woman acts this retarded over someone they haven't fucked, but I just have to keep telling them.....You haven't met fuggz. She has nothing else going on. Exactly, but people are dicks to her? Fuck outta here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1pooh4u Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 i actually agree with this. not a bad idea to have a folder like dumpster fire since there are people that want it. But you don't get it. It's the wrong people asking for it. I've been asking for it back. You can post tits, dicks and ass on this board but we can't have dumpster fires? Never even got a legit reason for it being gone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
André Toulon Posted March 2, 2017 Author Share Posted March 2, 2017 But you don't get it. It's the wrong people asking for it. I've been asking for it back. You can post tits, dicks and ass on this board but we can't have dumpster fires? Never even got a legit reason for it being gone I would repeat the reason again, but it's just masturbation at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mthor Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 Cause civility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1pooh4u Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 I would repeat the reason again, but it's just masturbation at this point. That reason isn't legit and is tantamount to a 6 year old getting mad and taking his ball home in the middle of playing whatever it is that kids play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Distortedreasoning Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 But you don't get it. It's the wrong people asking for it. I've been asking for it back. You can post tits, dicks and ass on this board but we can't have dumpster fires? Never even got a legit reason for it being gone you just dont know how to s*ck d*ck as good jk jk but seriously, it makes sense for a place like this to have an outlet where people can spam and be as vile as they want. you could even hide the folder from public view and just make it so only members can see it if youre that worried about other potential board members being turned off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1pooh4u Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 you just dont know how to s*ck d*ck as good jk jk but seriously, it makes sense for a place like this to have an outlet where people can spam and be as vile as they want. you could even hide the folder from public view and just make it so only members can see it if youre that worried about other potential board members being turned off. You don't even have to go through all that, the folder is called Dumpster Fires with a clear description. You enter and don't like what you see that's your fault. A lot of people have requested DF be brought back, there's no reason it shouldn't be, it's pretty much spite and bullshit at this point, at least that's my opinion on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarPanda Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 All in favor say "I" "I" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapinator_X Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 I don't remember anything bad happening to the site while Dumpster Fires was open. Things were relatively controlled. It feels like it was taken away the same reason they merged Rants with Babbling; artistic vision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1pooh4u Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 All in favor say "I" "I" "Eye" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1pooh4u Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 I don't remember anything bad happening to the site while Dumpster Fires was open. Things were relatively controlled. It feels like it was taken away the same reason they merged Rants with Babbling; artistic vision. Oh man, that's bad cuz does anyone remember what happened to the last message board that was hell bent on their "artistic vision".....my memory is a lil' hazy but I think it went something like this: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CutieQuesadilla Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 I just want people to know i'm actually not mean. I'm full of love and i'm playful. ::spin:: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
André Toulon Posted March 2, 2017 Author Share Posted March 2, 2017 You don't even have to go through all that, the folder is called Dumpster Fires with a clear description. You enter and don't like what you see that's your fault. A lot of people have requested DF be brought back, there's no reason it shouldn't be, it's pretty much spite and bullshit at this point, at least that's my opinion on it. There is NO reason for it not to exist.......I would alleviate the constant bitching from Jingo and the unfunny rickrolling from Viper. It would also take a lot of weight off Rogue and Mex from having to constantly move caustic threads....But nah......Let's pretend this forum wasn't designed for shitposting about butts and tinychat. Honestly, I'm fine either way.....I just figure if they wanted to contain the bullshit, it would be easier just to let us post in that folder instead of moving it in some ill formed sense of authority. If you're going to move all the fun threads there, just let people post there and eliminate the middleman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 That's a possibility. We're under no real delusions about how hard it is to get people to check out a new board/site (especially probably a message board). My guess would be that building a user base will be a super long and super slow process. The overall effects of Dumpster Fires seemed to be a sort of negatively influential effect on some specific users, kind of felt like it was an overall drag on the place mood-wise, and also had a definitive effect on daily traffic. Before DF, we had more posting than after DF was created. And then after I did away with DF, we again went back to more logins and posting. But - with the constant hammering we've been getting with Spambots, I've been trying to set up each section such that certain invisible ranks are required to access/post there. Haven't really implemented anything, because for the most part we've been catching the spambots before they post (we're getting about 20 a day lately). So it's possible I could eventually use that to provide some users access to the Dumpster Fires board or something. It's not a priority atm. Because there are probably literally like 100 or more other things I need to do first. But it's possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 The Rank suggestion is probably a good one too. Like make it accessible possibly only to users over a certain rank or something. I'm not anti-Dumpster Fires. Because it was my baby and my big "ultimate solution" to message board moderation etc. So it's no like I'm not personally invested in it. But data is data and personal bias is personal bias. Due to the data, it's off at the moment. Due to personal bias, it'll probably be back. The trick is squeezing it in among a bunch of other stuff that's kind of more of a priority. But I will be hacking up the structure again (possibly this week) so might try something with it when I do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1pooh4u Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 Getting rid of it was a priority though and people have been telling people about this place, the creation of and dismantling of DF is coincidental I'm not trying to be a bitch here but I always said I liked Dumpster Fires and have complained incessantly for its return. I would like access to dumpster fires in exchange for the prizes due me from the other boards. Everyone else got theirs, I had turkey shoot and the football pool from last year. I want as my prize the ability to sit solo in a pile of garbage until you have the time and ability to bring it back for everyone, please and thank you. > Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derackthehunter Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 I wish it was still here tho I wanna see that boo fuggz thread I nominated you as a judge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
André Toulon Posted March 2, 2017 Author Share Posted March 2, 2017 That's a possibility. We're under no real delusions about how hard it is to get people to check out a new board/site (especially probably a message board). My guess would be that building a user base will be a super long and super slow process. The overall effects of Dumpster Fires seemed to be a sort of negatively influential effect on some specific users, kind of felt like it was an overall drag on the place mood-wise, and also had a definitive effect on daily traffic. Before DF, we had more posting than after DF was created. And then after I did away with DF, we again went back to more logins and posting. But - with the constant hammering we've been getting with Spambots, I've been trying to set up each section such that certain invisible ranks are required to access/post there. Haven't really implemented anything, because for the most part we've been catching the spambots before they post (we're getting about 20 a day lately). So it's possible I could eventually use that to provide some users access to the Dumpster Fires board or something. It's not a priority atm. Because there are probably literally like 100 or more other things I need to do first. But it's possible. Opening an existing folder requires almost no effort, so don't pretend like it's some super hard thing to do. As far as traffic, DF was competitive to FFA for traffic, so to say things slowed down because of DF is dubious at best.....Maybe FFA wasn't jumping off when DF was around because your average poster doesn't want to read a bunch of IBish threads.....Not to say there isn't a place for that......Obviously some people love butts, duckfaces and rick rolls in place of discussion, but you eliminated one of the most active folders because, and let's be honest here......Some people who consider themselves special, and above derision didn't like having their thin skin pricked. I'll actually be ok if you just flat out said "DF is gone because I don't like when people hurt my friend's feeling" but instead you'll present us with this talk of data that anyone who was posting at that time knows is untrue. It's your board man, and you can do what you want.....I'll just say the one thing that always had us butting heads was your inability to be honest. You can't bullshit a bullshitter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
André Toulon Posted March 2, 2017 Author Share Posted March 2, 2017 I'll tell you what Admin[/member], work with us here....I'll put my neck on the line here with unwashed fervor. I can guarantee if you bring DF back, it will surpass the traffic of FFA in month's time....If it doesn't, we'll never ask for it again. And no, I'm not saying the current number of posts in FFA because a lot of that is posting that deserves to already be in DF........Just if we were starting at 0, DF will generate more traffic than FFA in that month........If I'm wrong, we'll abandon the entire notion that it has a place here. What say you......I think this is diplomatic and fair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1pooh4u Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 I'll tell you what Admin[/member], work with us here....I'll put my neck on the line here with unwashed fervor. I can guarantee if you bring DF back, it will surpass the traffic of FFA in month's time....If it doesn't, we'll never ask for it again. And no, I'm not saying the current number of posts in FFA because a lot of that is posting that deserves to already be in DF........Just if we were starting at 0, DF will generate more traffic than FFA in that month........If I'm wrong, we'll abandon the entire notion that it has a place here. What say you......I think this is diplomatic and fair. So much this.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 Opening an existing folder requires almost no effort, so don't pretend like it's some super hard thing to do. As far as traffic, DF was competitive to FFA for traffic, so to say things slowed down because of DF is dubious at best.....Maybe FFA wasn't jumping off when DF was around because your average poster doesn't want to read a bunch of IBish threads.....Not to say there isn't a place for that......Obviously some people love butts, duckfaces and rick rolls in place of discussion, but you eliminated one of the most active folders because, and let's be honest here......Some people who consider themselves special, and above derision didn't like having their thin skin pricked. I'll actually be ok if you just flat out said "DF is gone because I don't like when people hurt my friend's feeling" but instead you'll present us with this talk of data that anyone who was posting at that time knows is untrue. It's your board man, and you can do what you want.....I'll just say the one thing that always had us butting heads was your inability to be honest. You can't bullshit a bullshitter It's not super hard. It's just that it's a fairly small piece of a very large puzzle. And I get super tired of these types of accusations. I get that people want what they want and they want it RIGHT NOW, but - I mean I may be naive here, but I have some goals for this place, both short term and long term. And there are things I need to work in certain ways, and things I want to see happen. And there are different levels of listening. Like part of it is listening to the complaints as they manifest on the board, part of it is listening to the actual data. Because people have a tendency to over-exaggerate things when they want something. If you don't have any data to fall back on, you're kinda constantly reacting to wave after wave of butthurt and rage. But - when we get into these discussions, it's always me trying to explain stuff, and then you come at me with - either I'm trying to please everybody, or I'm just lying because I have some sinister agenda. The agenda is basically to set up some stuff I want to do such that people get something out of it and I get something out of it. There are a lot of working parts to that. And a lot of stuff to balance. But Dumpster Fires is indeed something I still want. I have to figure out a way to do that such that it works for the board, not just a handful of users. I apologize if that's hard to hear. But it's just the truth. I want Dumpster Fires. It'll be back. But there's more for me to consider than just how big a tantrum you can throw, or how many times you can ignore the things I'm trying to tell you in favor of just calling me a liar and making demands again for something that I've already told you will be back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
André Toulon Posted March 2, 2017 Author Share Posted March 2, 2017 Getting rid of it was a priority though and people have been telling people about this place, the creation of and dismantling of DF is coincidental I'm not trying to be a bitch here but I always said I liked Dumpster Fires and have complained incessantly for its return. I would like access to dumpster fires in exchange for the prizes due me from the other boards. Everyone else got theirs, I had turkey shoot and the football pool from last year. I want as my prize the ability to sit solo in a pile of garbage until you have the time and ability to bring it back for everyone, please and thank you. > lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
André Toulon Posted March 2, 2017 Author Share Posted March 2, 2017 I'm not throwing a tantrum or ignoring what you're saying.....I am asking for a chance to provide you with results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derackthehunter Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 I'm not throwing a tantrum or ignoring what you're saying.....I asking for a chance to provide you with results. Perhaps it would be more effective to ask what he had prioritised about it to see where it falls. That way we can figure out if the stuff he wants to do prior to that is worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
André Toulon Posted March 2, 2017 Author Share Posted March 2, 2017 Perhaps it would be more effective to ask what he had prioritised about it to see where it falls. That way we can figure out if the stuff he wants to do prior to that is worth it. Well I don't think our opinion on whether or not it's worth it would be any more pertinent than simply asking for a chance for DF to return, but I leave that portion in your hands, ambassador.......You're sure to get better results than I. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 Getting rid of it was a priority though and people have been telling people about this place, the creation of and dismantling of DF is coincidental I'm not trying to be a bitch here but I always said I liked Dumpster Fires and have complained incessantly for its return. I would like access to dumpster fires in exchange for the prizes due me from the other boards. Everyone else got theirs, I had turkey shoot and the football pool from last year. I want as my prize the ability to sit solo in a pile of garbage until you have the time and ability to bring it back for everyone, please and thank you. > give me a rank title and color and I'll do you up. when it comes back, then you will be the undisputed queen shit of dumpster fires. because it'll say that on you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 well you will get that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 also just on a personal note, it's not a goal for me that DF be the highest traffic folder. I would say more the goal would be that overall board traffic not decrease. It doesn't even have to increase. Just that it not decrease significantly. Also still not 100% sure where I'm going to put it on the board. I'm going to be messing with the structure this week and figuring that shit out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derackthehunter Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 Well I don't think our opinion on whether or not it's worth it would be an more pertinent than simply asking for a chance for DF to return, but I leave that portion in your hands, ambassador.......You're sure to get better results than I. Unless ambassador comes with a pay raise I'm not really interested, I just like to explore all options thatead to me or in this case is getting what we desire in a quick fashion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derackthehunter Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 also just on a personal note, it's not a goal for me that DF be the highest traffic folder. I would say more the goal would be that overall board traffic not decrease. It doesn't even have to increase. Just that it not decrease significantly. Also still not 100% sure where I'm going to put it on the board. I'm going to be messing with the structure this week and figuring that shit out. Well for starters you could get rid of the folders that are unnecessary, like TV sports and books, is there books? Anyway you get the idea. People could just post about those inside FFA and save time. I'm not going into TV to talk about TWD and I'm not going into sports to talk about Football. I know I'm not the only one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 Well for starters you could get rid of the folders that are unnecessary, like TV sports and books, is there books? Anyway you get the idea. People could just post about those inside FFA and save time. I'm not going into TV to talk about TWD and I'm not going into sports to talk about Football. I know I'm not the only one. no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
André Toulon Posted March 2, 2017 Author Share Posted March 2, 2017 Unless ambassador comes with a pay raise I'm not really interested, I just like to explore all options thatead to me or in this case is getting what we desire in a quick fashion. I'm not even in a rush....I mean it's been gone long enough that I can really just go either way......I simply wish to check to see if we have other options. Also, I want to be known as HNIC in my rank......You can shut me up for a long time if you bless me with this Admin[/member] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CutieQuesadilla Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 no. lol, fucking terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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