Pheels Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 (edited) I've been trying to figure out why people prefer it over Morrowind and Oblivion for years. So what if it has a bigger open world and better graphics? The quests are boring, there are no puzzles, NPCs have very little dialogue, that open world feels so empty and, personally, I can't find any reason to care about Nord politics and rebellion. Edited December 16, 2017 by Pheels Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunkenwarrior Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 Yea, well you're wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cau Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 Morrowind > Skyrim > Oblivion 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poof Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 I don’t get it either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codename: Jackass Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 Games like Skyrim bore me to tears. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Distortedreasoning Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 never liked any of those games or any of the fallout bethesda games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pheels Posted December 16, 2017 Author Share Posted December 16, 2017 37 minutes ago, Drunkenwarrior said: Yea, well you're wrong Because.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pheels Posted December 16, 2017 Author Share Posted December 16, 2017 43 minutes ago, Cau said: Morrowind > Skyrim > Oblivion I'll agree with Morrowind being the best, but what's so bad about Oblivion? Besides the enemy and loot leveling thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pheels Posted December 16, 2017 Author Share Posted December 16, 2017 45 minutes ago, Poof said: I don’t get it either I've tried to like Skyrim, but I just don't enjoy playing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
molarbear Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 You could push a cow off a mountain using only your voice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Hound Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 3 hours ago, Cau said: Morrowind > Skyrim > Oblivion That's about right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vamped Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 I can't really get into Open World Games .... and Skyrim has too much shit to do ... I need a solid story to play a game or atleast like a loose story because I like Fable so .... fuck I dunno. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HardcoreHunter Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 The lack of good spells and short faction questlines were big flaws for me while playing skyrim. Also annoying that you can become the leader of every guild. Morrowind had it where guilds would conflict, or you would need a skill level to even advance to the next rank. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwimModSponges Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 15 hours ago, Pheels said: I'll agree with Morrowind being the best, but what's so bad about Oblivion? Besides the enemy and loot leveling thing. "I saw a mudcrab the other day." "Stop talking!" Ok, lets break it down. Artistically, oblivion has not aged well. It was near impossible to create a character who did not look like a potato. If you wanted facial hair, you had the option to give yourself a blue-black shadow across the bottom of your face or a blindingly white shade in the same general area. No matter what you did, it would cut off abruptly at the neck where the face shader ended and the waxy flesh of the body began. There was very little variation in environments, with the entirety of the province being rolling hills covered in differently colored grass and trees, swamp, or snow. The dungeons were likewise repetitive, the planes of Oblivion themselves consisting of six maps that would spawn randomly when you opened the portal. Leveling was broken; once you hit the requisite level items from lower levels no longer spawned; at level 20 every enemy wore full daedric or glass armor and every enemy was a minotaur lord. With a few exceptions, the enemies, armors, and weapons were entirely generic, and the questlines, though longer than skyrims, were not nearly as interesting. Oblivion was not a bad game; i do not have hate for it. It just did not live up to the high standards set by morrowind and later achieved by Skyrim. It is quite litterally bethesda's middle child. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwimModSponges Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 6 hours ago, HardcoreHunter said: The lack of good spells and short faction questlines were big flaws for me while playing skyrim. Also annoying that you can become the leader of every guild. Morrowind had it where guilds would conflict, or you would need a skill level to even advance to the next rank. This is because you are a dragon in skyrim, and have the insatiable need to devour the world. It makes sense in morrowind that the nerevarine would be loyal to a single great house, or would join with the fighters or the thieves and not both. The dragonborn though, has no true loyalty. The dragonborn is an uncaring mercenary, going from job to job collecting gold and influence, not caring who they killed along the way or who they saved. Because it isnt about the people of skyrim, its about you cutting their heads off for a laugh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HardcoreHunter Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 36 minutes ago, SwimModSponges said: This is because you are a dragon in skyrim, and have the insatiable need to devour the world. It makes sense in morrowind that the nerevarine would be loyal to a single great house, or would join with the fighters or the thieves and not both. The dragonborn though, has no true loyalty. The dragonborn is an uncaring mercenary, going from job to job collecting gold and influence, not caring who they killed along the way or who they saved. Because it isnt about the people of skyrim, its about you cutting their heads off for a laugh. Except you can get married and make choices that show empathy. I would say that the best outcome to explain the Dragonborn being able to lead all these guilds is tied to the Septim's. The last rulers of tamriel were also Dragonborn. It would stand to reason that people with the DB blood are natural leaders. This could allude to the DB becoming the new king of tamriel, or laying groundwork for their descendants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwimModSponges Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 You dont love your significant other, you only use them. Any empathetic choices you make are made for the rewards, be they physical or reputational. The dragonborn is alduin; devouring the world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HardcoreHunter Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 Except you fight Alduin so your theory makes no sense. It isn't like Jyggalag where the DB is either himself or Alduin, they are separate entities. Not to mention there have been countless Dragonborn. Dragonborn are essentially the reincarnations of dragons. At the time Alduin was alive so he could not be reincarnated into mortal flesh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwimModSponges Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 Yeah thats probably accurate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gyaos Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 It was my first Elder Scrolls game, so that plays a lot into why I love it so much. Plus, I spent a lot more time on the sidequests before I completed the game's primary quest. A lot of it has to do with nostalgia, at least for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That_One_Guy Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 I love Skyrim but I agree it is a tad overrated. It's a watered down version of Witcher 3 to me. Witcher 3 for king! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rumb0 Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 Skyrim is a Reddit tier game at this point. It's only liked by dorks and beta males stuck in 2012. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HardcoreHunter Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 2 hours ago, Kang Edward IV said: Skyrim is a Reddit tier game at this point. It's only liked by dorks and beta males stuck in 2012. The game came out 11-11-11 not 2012. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HardcoreHunter Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 On 12/19/2017 at 1:29 PM, That_One_Guy said: I love Skyrim but I agree it is a tad overrated. It's a watered down version of Witcher 3 to me. Witcher 3 for king! It's 4 years older than witcher 3. You can't really be a watered down version of something if you predate it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K_N Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 If Morrowind and Oblivion didn't feel so horribly obsolete they'd probably be considered better games. Skyrim's game engine was just well done, the graphics are incredibly impressive for something now a decade old and it's an open world game so you never really run out of stuff to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapinator_X Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 I can't get hooked on Bethesta games. The Elder Scrolls and Fallout games I've played of theirs feel barren, lifeless, and generic. Personality and umph is streamlined away from them for mass consumption so that it meshes well with other AAA games on the market. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That_One_Guy Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 42 minutes ago, HardcoreHunter said: It's 4 years older than witcher 3. You can't really be a watered down version of something if you predate it. Valid point is valid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwimModSponges Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 You know what bugs me about Skyrim? It would have been so incredibly easy for Bethesda to make Elder Scrolls 6 using it as a base. SE engine works great, just throw in official versions of some of the more important mods (like SkyUI), then re-use like half the assets to create the province of High Rock. Whip together a couple of quest lines, set it directly after the events of Skyrim, wham, cash cow. I mean, they're still milking it with just re-releases of the same game, a whole new game made with half the effort would have been phenomenal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rumb0 Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 (edited) 23 hours ago, HardcoreHunter said: The game came out 11-11-11 not 2012. November 11th was literally less than 2 months away from 2012. I am pretty sure you remember the intense Skyrim memeing and dickriding that went on in 2012. Shit was made even worse when people had to insert their MLP characters into that shit too. Edited December 22, 2017 by Kang Edward IV removed video Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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