4chan sues the UK goverment

[ghostrek]

https://www.usnews.com/news/us/articles/2025-08-28/internet-forum-4chan-sues-uk-regulator-in-us-over-free-speech   What would happen if it went to the Supreme Court 

[Mode 7]

[The_annoying_one]

I didn’t know 4chan was even still a thing.

[ghostrek]

@Insipid @scoobdog @Raptorpat

[ghostrek]

Just now, ghostrek said:

@Insipid @scoobdog @Raptorpat

your  opinon 

[Raptorpat]

Who has jurisdiction, when a website crosses state and national borders by simply existing on the open internet, is a serious question worth answering.

[PhilosipherStoned]

24 minutes ago, Raptorpat said:

Who has jurisdiction, when a website crosses state and national borders by simply existing on the open internet, is a serious question worth answering.

The whole situation has EU content creators ready to jump ship, and everybody else in other countries waiting to see how things play out expecting their respective countries to follow suite if weakening end to end encryption can really be a thing we do to "protect the children". I've stayed pretty true to my promise of not messing with ghostrek threads until now, but at least he's getting better at selecting viral topics. 

https://www.techradar.com/vpn/vpn-privacy-security/the-online-safety-act-isnt-just-about-age-verification-end-to-end-encryption-is-also-at-risk

Edited Saturday at 01:56 AM by PhilosipherStoned
attaching a tech break down involving OSA and E2EE

[mthor]

It's not just 4chan. They're suing in conjunction with Lolcow LLC (Kiwi Farms). 

There's a thread in the Lolcow & Lolcow, LLP subforum if anybody is interested. (Don't worry, @scoobdog, it's in Lolcow Meta, not the Thunderdome.)

[1pooh4u]

Couldn’t they just shut servers in the UK(or wtf they’d have to do to not be accessible there anymore) Like fuck it. How many people is that really? 

[mthor]

5 minutes ago, 1pooh4u said:

Couldn’t they just shut servers in the UK(or wtf they’d have to do to not be accessible there anymore) Like fuck it. How many people is that really? 

I don't know about 4chan, but there are a lot of Brits on the farms.

[scoobdog]

3 hours ago, ghostrek said:

your  opinon 

My opinion is I ain’t putting in my email to read that article…

 

2 hours ago, mthor said:

It's not just 4chan. They're suing in conjunction with Lolcow LLC (Kiwi Farms). 

There's a thread in the Lolcow & Lolcow, LLP subforum if anybody is interested. (Don't worry, @scoobdog, it's in Lolcow Meta, not the Thunderdome.)

But I only go to Thunderdome.

[ghostrek]

7 hours ago, Raptorpat said:

Who has jurisdiction, when a website crosses state and national borders by simply existing on the open internet, is a serious question worth answering.

@Raptorpat  simple, the fucking UN

[[classic swim]]

Ok Johnny Sack 

[ghostrek]

19 minutes ago, [classic swim] said:

Ok Johnny Sack 

@[classic swim] who?

[1pooh4u]

12 hours ago, mthor said:

I don't know about 4chan, but there are a lot of Brits on the farms.

They only have a population of 69m how much of a loss would it really be when the potential loss for staying could be worse. Besides even if it’s too many to give up, people are resourceful. They’ll get on w a  VPN 

[Insipid]

oh

[lupin_bebop]

How is that going to work? It’s an international website. All the UK could do is shut off the UK servers. Them taking any sort of action has implications well beyond “keeping children safe”. Free speech, and all. Yes, there is a level of censorship that is needed/necessary, but there’s a line between it and surveillance. 

[PhilosipherStoned]

On 8/30/2025 at 9:05 PM, lupin_bebop said:

How is that going to work? It’s an international website. All the UK could do is shut off the UK servers. Them taking any sort of action has implications well beyond “keeping children safe”. Free speech, and all. Yes, there is a level of censorship that is needed/necessary, but there’s a line between it and surveillance. 

It does still seem to me like a lot of people outside actual tech backgrounds aren't seeing the implications... Several governments are already brainstorming on how to ban things like VPNs because until they pulled this shit trying to "keep the children safe" they didn't know what one was they only know that there has been a 270% spike in vpn use since they tried to pull their boomer shit.. It's like the fucking tiktok ban shit all over again when you look at how governments everywhere are prepared to deal with online safety in general. 

 

Edited Monday at 02:09 AM by PhilosipherStoned

[ghostrek]

On 8/29/2025 at 9:37 PM, PhilosipherStoned said:

The whole situation has EU content creators ready to jump ship, and everybody else in other countries waiting to see how things play out expecting their respective countries to follow suite if weakening end to end encryption can really be a thing we do to "protect the children". I've stayed pretty true to my promise of not messing with ghostrek threads until now, but at least he's getting better at selecting viral topics. 

https://www.techradar.com/vpn/vpn-privacy-security/the-online-safety-act-isnt-just-about-age-verification-end-to-end-encryption-is-also-at-risk

thank you

[lupin_bebop]

On 8/31/2025 at 8:56 PM, PhilosipherStoned said:

It does still seem to me like a lot of people outside actual tech backgrounds aren't seeing the implications... Several governments are already brainstorming on how to ban things like VPNs because until they pulled this shit trying to "keep the children safe" they didn't know what one was they only know that there has been a 270% spike in vpn use since they tried to pull their boomer shit.. It's like the fucking tiktok ban shit all over again when you look at how governments everywhere are prepared to deal with online safety in general. 

 

Yep. People who know nothing about tech are trying to dictate what tech does. They have no idea what the implications of what they are doing are. “For the kids” is the boomer equivalent of qualified immunity. It’s fucking stupid and has a LOT of pitfalls. They are trying to ban things that helped more kids than the school system.

What’s so fucking stupid is that tech companies are fairly good at regulating content themselves. Not completely good (Roblox), but for the most part, yes. It’s the money part that fucks it all up.