Sieg67 Posted March 10 Posted March 10 1 hour ago, tsar4 said: Luckily I think most of them are focusing their anger on Trump and Musk. They don't hate Americans in general but I wouldn't blame them if they do. 1 Quote
Doom Metal Alchemist Posted March 10 Posted March 10 7 hours ago, tsar4 said: "We warned you?" This is just the kind of stuff his base masturbates to. 2 Quote
Jman Posted March 10 Posted March 10 My broker is still optimistic about a rebound but he’s put my stuff in a more defensive stance for the next quarter to be safe. But the economy is tanking, because it turns out that running on vibes, hate, and tarrifs is stupid. Honestly if the idea is to piss people off enough there’s enough goodwill towards mass infrastructure projects to employ people, they’re on their way. 3 Quote
rpgamer Posted March 10 Posted March 10 Nah, I'm 100% on board with believing they're intentionally tanking the market so all the stock bros can buy cheap to inflate their worth when shit settles down (i.e. when everyone realizes how bad Rs are for economy [again] and expect Dems to fix everything [again]). Just a question/matter of how easy it will be to undo what has been done, and the nature of the deeper consequences.. 3 Quote
Insipid Posted March 31 Posted March 31 China, Japan, and Korea plan to jointly respond to US tariffs. Good job Trump. Making Asia great again, at the cost of American global influence. https://www.reuters.com/world/china-japan-south-korea-will-jointly-respond-us-tariffs-chinese-state-media-says-2025-03-31/ 5 Quote
discolé monade Posted March 31 Posted March 31 Trump to Announce Country-Based Reciprocal Tariffs Wednesday now i'm REALLY interested in this. that is...i'm REALLY interested to see what ag and textile will be in this. congress approved an additional bailout for cotton growers here. in this area, it's 85$/acre of cotton, with most fields in the hundreds (you can maths), with additional support for failing market......m'kay. i'm going to take a wild guess and i would place bets that these "farmers" - and i do use that term loosely - that are field to port only will be hit hardest. i actually hope so. NOTHING stays in this country. nothing. cotton, peanutes, soy. next i would say vehicles for obvious reasons. and finally, i think beef. again...same "farms" raise cattle that is...you guessed it: farm to port only. NOTHING stays here. just adding my 2cents that absoulutly NO ONE but me asked for. lol 3 Quote
1pooh4u Posted April 1 Posted April 1 3 hours ago, discolé monade said: Trump to Announce Country-Based Reciprocal Tariffs Wednesday now i'm REALLY interested in this. that is...i'm REALLY interested to see what ag and textile will be in this. congress approved an additional bailout for cotton growers here. in this area, it's 85$/acre of cotton, with most fields in the hundreds (you can maths), with additional support for failing market......m'kay. i'm going to take a wild guess and i would place bets that these "farmers" - and i do use that term loosely - that are field to port only will be hit hardest. i actually hope so. NOTHING stays in this country. nothing. cotton, peanutes, soy. next i would say vehicles for obvious reasons. and finally, i think beef. again...same "farms" raise cattle that is...you guessed it: farm to port only. NOTHING stays here. just adding my 2cents that absoulutly NO ONE but me asked for. lol Farmers get so much government subsidies. Some might be necessary idk anything about that type of stuff. I also got to look into tariffs countries place on our goods. Idk if these 100% and 300% or 50% tariffs are even real and if they are real, does the tariff get placed on the goods all the time or does something have to trigger the tariff? Nothing Trump ever says is ever true or completely true. I hate that he makes me have to look shit up. It’s like the son of a bitch is giving me homework. 🫠😆🫠 4 Quote
discolé monade Posted April 1 Posted April 1 the 'farmers' (those that i mention farm to port, not for american consumption) are some of the biggest welfare queens to date. they make money when they fail this is from 2023, In 2023, the median income from farming for households operating commercial family farms was $167,550, with a median total household income of $253,496, while the median total household income for all farm households was $97,984, exceeding the median for all U.S. households 2. Subsidies: Federal farm subsidy programs can significantly impact farmer income. Examples of programs include: PLC (Price Loss Coverage) - $33 billion in taxpayer costs projected for FY24-33. Highly subsidized federal crop insurance - $101 billion in taxpayer costs projected for FY24-33. ARC (Agriculture Risk Coverage) - $19 billion in taxpayer costs projected for FY24-33. It's important to note that the vast majority of farmers do not benefit from federal farm subsidy programs, and the subsidies tend to go to the largest and most financially secure farm operations. this would be the industrial farmers - field to port not your farmers markets and those small farms that you see fail every year. 3. Tax Breaks: Farmers can benefit from various tax breaks, including: State Tax Credits . Renewable Energy Credits . Research and Development (R&D) Tax Credits . Earned Income Tax Credit for Farmers with Low Income . Conservation Expense Deductions . Depreciation . It's crucial to track all expenditures and understand taxable income and deductions. 4. Insurance Pay Outs: Farmers often rely on crop insurance to protect against losses due to natural disasters or other unforeseen events. The amount of insurance payouts can vary greatly depending on the type of crop, the location, and the severity of the event. 1 4 Quote
1pooh4u Posted April 1 Posted April 1 It’s amazing how subsidies so often go to those who don’t need it. I wouldn’t mind so much if they actually sold their stuff inside the country but to just take up resources for the benefit of so few people here isn’t acceptable. Not unless they’re shipping overseas in an act of charity but I doubt that’s happening. 4 Quote
discolé monade Posted April 1 Posted April 1 8 hours ago, 1pooh4u said: It’s amazing how subsidies so often go to those who don’t need it. I wouldn’t mind so much if they actually sold their stuff inside the country but to just take up resources for the benefit of so few people here isn’t acceptable. Not unless they’re shipping overseas in an act of charity but I doubt that’s happening. oh...there is nothing charitable about these fake ass christians here. i wish you'd come down...just for a long weekend. i'll show you 2 southern worlds. one where the reconstruction of 1864 is alive and well, and one that has moved past those obstacles and focuses on their city, tourism, and it's people. 2 1 Quote
1pooh4u Posted April 1 Posted April 1 5 hours ago, discolé monade said: oh...there is nothing charitable about these fake ass christians here. i wish you'd come down...just for a long weekend. i'll show you 2 southern worlds. one where the reconstruction of 1864 is alive and well, and one that has moved past those obstacles and focuses on their city, tourism, and it's people. I been nagging my other half to go down to GA. We were supposed to go to FL and I wanted to detour to down your way. lol we’re gonna have to drive because neither of us has proper ID to fly anymore and he can’t even drive in FL or rent a car until he does. Our IDs say “not for federal purposes” despite showing birth certificates and SS cards to get said ID 🙄 4 Quote
discolé monade Posted April 1 Posted April 1 train? bus? i traveled by bus back and forth east/west so many times. suck ride if not packed correctly. (snacks water etc) and vt - d.c. quite a bit by train. and i want to say that was the vermonter? that's not a terrible ride at all. and a 11 years ago i took a train up to dc. it wasn't a terrible ride. 2 Quote
1pooh4u Posted April 1 Posted April 1 2 hours ago, discolé monade said: train? bus? i traveled by bus back and forth east/west so many times. suck ride if not packed correctly. (snacks water etc) and vt - d.c. quite a bit by train. and i want to say that was the vermonter? that's not a terrible ride at all. and a 11 years ago i took a train up to dc. it wasn't a terrible ride. I always wanted to travel by train. Like long trip train. Not Metro North bullshit train 1 Quote
discolé monade Posted April 1 Posted April 1 (edited) 18 minutes ago, 1pooh4u said: I always wanted to travel by train. Like long trip train. Not Metro North bullshit train than...perhaps splurge and take a round trip sleeper. do they even do those anymore? holy wow. the silver meteor. that was the train i took in the way back to visit the maternal unit. *not in a sleeper. just that train. i remember thinking like silver streak. Edited April 1 by discolé monade 2 Quote
Insipid Posted April 2 Posted April 2 What the fuck are those percentage numbers? Jesus, this is just so fucking stupid anymore. 2 Quote
Jman Posted April 2 Posted April 2 (edited) I still think the only reason he uses tariffs is because he can use them unilaterally. And with Schumer being the whiny bitch he was, we have to wait two years to possibly get the influence to undo them. Interestingly, Canada and Mexico were not tarrifed…yet. Edited April 2 by Jman 3 Quote
Insipid Posted April 2 Posted April 2 49 percent on Cambodia. Yeah, the clothing from sweatshops is such a threat for American industry. 🙄 3 Quote
Jman Posted April 2 Posted April 2 This is going to cause a new Great Depression. He wants serfs. 4 1 2 Quote
1pooh4u Posted April 2 Posted April 2 All this so he can give tax breaks to millionaires and MAYBE remove tax on tips. I actually don’t like any of it. Billionaires should pay more in taxes and tips are earnings. If they maybe want to only tax a certain amount or not tax until a certain amount, fine, but no tax at all isn’t right either. 5 Quote
Dark_Cloud_Overhead Posted April 2 Posted April 2 It's a poor and middle class tax hike. I hate the word tariff. Just obfuscates what's really going on, which is simply put... class warfare. No matter what language is used though, when people see the rising prices and feel the pain economically, they're gonna know. And the idea that this is to bring manufacturing back... puhlease. That's just to give the media a chance to talk about this and analyze it as if there's some kind of actual strategy at play here, but doing them by country like this in a blanket fashion makes it pretty clear that this is just ultimately another con. It's no wonder they delayed this whole announcement till after the markets closed. Just look at where the dow futures are right no and it's like ruh roh! Dow futures tumble 1,000 points on fear Trump’s tariffs will spark trade war: Live updates 6 Quote
katt_goddess Posted April 3 Posted April 3 1 hour ago, Insipid said: 49 percent on Cambodia. Yeah, the clothing from sweatshops is such a threat for American industry. 🙄 That was a Tuberville push because Cambodia exports catfish and shrimp and Tuberville has declared himself the Mr. Nimbus of seafoods. 1 4 Quote
Insipid Posted April 3 Posted April 3 (edited) Let's see how alt right 4channers enjoy this. Edited April 3 by Insipid 4 2 Quote
MasqueradeOverture Posted April 3 Posted April 3 2 hours ago, tsar4 said: Some chinks in the armor? You say you fight the good fight but use such lacist language? Quote
1pooh4u Posted April 3 Posted April 3 https://open.substack.com/pub/heathercoxrichardson/p/april-2-2025-wednesday?r=kmtvs&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=email Prof HCR on Trump’s bat shit tariffs and his bonkers reasoning and the global implications of him being a douche he’s doing this to make shit difficult so that when he eventually “fixes” what he broke, people will tug on his dick, and tell him what a great president he is 5 Quote
Jman Posted April 3 Posted April 3 Judging by the reactions from the pro-Trump crowd, this is entirely about making others suffer. Even if they suffer too, they figure their whole lives are suffering, might as well make others feel miserable. 4 Quote
1pooh4u Posted April 3 Posted April 3 9 minutes ago, Jman said: Judging by the reactions from the pro-Trump crowd, this is entirely about making others suffer. Even if they suffer too, they figure their whole lives are suffering, might as well make others feel miserable. I noticed that suddenly MAGAts love taxes and suffering through the pain will be worth it because only woke people hate tariffs. Don’t matter that this is all a collection plate for the super rich. As long as the libs are owned nothing else matters 2 6 Quote
rpgamer Posted April 3 Posted April 3 Comes as no surprise from a party that has embraced "empathy is a weakness." MD will be here shortly to demonstrate how great everything is as long as you don't care about trying to be a good person. 1 3 Quote
André Toulon Posted April 3 Posted April 3 Yay, republicans doing more virtue signaling and just as much nothing a Democrats 4 Quote
Jman Posted April 3 Posted April 3 3 minutes ago, André Toulon said: Yay, republicans doing more virtue signaling and just as much nothing a Democrats They can’t go against the cult. If this was President Vance he would have been called an idiot 50 different ways in public and 100 in private. 5 Quote
Insipid Posted April 3 Posted April 3 (edited) I found out why Cambodia is so high, and it's really stupid. It's just because Cambodia exports much more to the US than it imports. "In 2024, Cambodia exported goods worth $9.92 billion to the US, up 11.4%, while US imports to Cambodia amounted to $264.15 million, up by 2.7%. Total bilateral trade volume between the two nations reached $10.18 billion, a rise of 11.2% over 2023." https://m.phnompenhpost.com/national/cambodia-tops-list-of-new-trump-tariffs-49-#:~:text=In 2024%2C Cambodia exported goods,rise of 11.2% over 2023. 264.15m divided by 9.92b is about 2.7 percent. This mean the US has about a 97 percent trade deficit, which Trump is calling a tariff against the US. The sad thing is the average American won't understand the simple math involved here. This is one of the many reasons Republicans are gleefully gutting the Department of Education. Edited April 3 by Insipid 6 1 Quote
Insipid Posted April 3 Posted April 3 (edited) Yep, I was right. Also, notice how any deficit below 10 percent is rounded up to 10, to make it easier for the bullshit "reciprocal tariffs." The ones in negative percentage points are net importers. Trump is punishing net importers. 🙄 Edited April 3 by Insipid 7 Quote
Jman Posted April 3 Posted April 3 The original New Deal and utterly massive investment nets into infrastructure, arts, and the like followed the Great Depression. When MAGA’s are thrown out, you likely will see the same sort of re-investment and re-hiring if for no other reason than to get money moving again out of that space beneath the mattress. 2 Quote
1pooh4u Posted April 3 Posted April 3 People are getting stupid richer off this plummeting stock market or they will. This entire crashing of the stock market is on fuckin purpose. Some already made their millions in stock dumps and they’ll make their billions off of buying stocks low knowing they’ll rebound big time 2 1 Quote
rpgamer Posted April 3 Posted April 3 1 minute ago, 1pooh4u said: People are getting stupid richer off this plummeting stock market or they will. This entire crashing of the stock market is on fuckin purpose. Some already made their millions in stock dumps and they’ll make their billions off of buying stocks low knowing they’ll rebound big time All according to plan. Shame we'll never be able to hold them accountable even if it does come to light that they literally schemed this on Yahoo messenger or some shit. 3 1 Quote
1pooh4u Posted April 3 Posted April 3 3 minutes ago, rpgamer said: All according to plan. Shame we'll never be able to hold them accountable even if it does come to light that they literally schemed this on Yahoo messenger or some shit. Trump and his clan of cocaine ogres are already making a killing off their meme crypto. Then they got nerve to continue to complain about Nancy Pelosi and her probable insider trading 1 Quote
Jman Posted April 3 Posted April 3 Is it insider trading if you see it from ten miles away? I still took it on the chin with my brokerage and that was despite shielding as best I could. When the all clear comes to lift these tarrifs, I expect the values to skyrocket. Folks are buying cheap I bet waiting for that moment. 3 Quote
1pooh4u Posted April 3 Posted April 3 I’m saying what Pelosi has been accused of idk wtf you call what Trump and Musk are doing. She probably did get insider info from her venture capitalist husband. I really dk what you call tanking an entire economy and stock market on purpose to get stocks fucked so you can buy low and sell high. 1 Quote
Sieg67 Posted April 4 Posted April 4 https://www.theverge.com/news/642620/trump-tariffs-formula-ai-chatgpt-gemini-claude-grok Trump’s new tariff math looks a lot like ChatGPT’s What do you bet this was Musk's idea? 3 Quote
katt_goddess Posted April 4 Posted April 4 5 minutes ago, Sieg67 said: https://www.theverge.com/news/642620/trump-tariffs-formula-ai-chatgpt-gemini-claude-grok Trump’s new tariff math looks a lot like ChatGPT’s What do you bet this was Musk's idea? Drumpf had other people take his tests for him in college so yeah, it's not even remotely impossible that anything 'math' more complicated than third grade remedial is someone else's work. 2 3 Quote
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