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War games at the time is like that second stage of planning and organizing a plan well several stages actually but but the idea is you come up with the concept you test it out before going in the battle that's what war game is this is the scenario phase hell I found a thing at poe.com a chat GTP bot site that does the same thing.

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It’s called a training aid for a reason. The scenario may never come to fruition; after all, who really wants a war with China? If you understand world economics, you recognize that while it is a possibility, I certainly wouldn’t want it to happen. I pray it doesn’t occur, but that’s not the main point. 

 

Consider how many war games we conducted for War Plan Red before World War II, which was the strategy developed for a potential conflict with the British Empire and Commonwealth. War Plan Red was never executed. Similarly, War Plan Orange, designed for Japan, didn’t accurately reflect how events actually unfolded.

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14 hours ago, ghostrek said:

It’s called a training aid for a reason. The scenario may never come to fruition; after all, who really wants a war with China? If you understand world economics, you recognize that while it is a possibility, I certainly wouldn’t want it to happen. I pray it doesn’t occur, but that’s not the main point. 

 

Consider how many war games we conducted for War Plan Red before World War II, which was the strategy developed for a potential conflict with the British Empire and Commonwealth. War Plan Red was never executed. Similarly, War Plan Orange, designed for Japan, didn’t accurately reflect how events actually unfolded.

Did a bowling ball fall on your head momentarily allowing you to post coherently?

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16 hours ago, scoobdog said:

What are we claiming down there?  Hopefully not an STD.... Ghosty already has enough trouble with the ladies.

@scoobdog  no watch the video plus    no stds  and what not funny

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2 minutes ago, ghostrek said:

@scoobdog  no watch the video

I did, and I think maybe you misunderstand what he's talking about.  This isn't a planning war "game" or a hypothetical run through, it's quite literally a board game with no actual geopolitical ramifications.  It's a generic exercise in strategy an logical reasoning, and it does, in fact, represent an evolution in military planning.

The same principles as chess apply - each piece has an attack, defense and surveillance function.  But, with advances in the understanding of human psychology and behavior as well as scientific breakthroughs in every discipline, the rules have changed for previously set playing pieces.  Each piece is expected to do more and react to its environment in a way a chess piece never could.  It's interesting in that this disparity in thought has never been more apparent in the reductive and poorly reasoned actions of Trump's DoD.  We don't really think about how integrated emotional and intellectual features are to modern warfare until those features are stripped away.

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5 hours ago, scoobdog said:

I did, and I think maybe you misunderstand what he's talking about.  This isn't a planning war "game" or a hypothetical run through, it's quite literally a board game with no actual geopolitical ramifications.  It's a generic exercise in strategy an logical reasoning, and it does, in fact, represent an evolution in military planning.

The same principles as chess apply - each piece has an attack, defense and surveillance function.  But, with advances in the understanding of human psychology and behavior as well as scientific breakthroughs in every discipline, the rules have changed for previously set playing pieces.  Each piece is expected to do more and react to its environment in a way a chess piece never could.  It's interesting in that this disparity in thought has never been more apparent in the reductive and poorly reasoned actions of Trump's DoD.  We don't really think about how integrated emotional and intellectual features are to modern warfare until those features are stripped away.

It's a little more complex, but I find it interesting, and I understand your perspective. However, I believe we shouldn't focus solely on the potential for a war with China, especially considering what Trump has been doing. That said, I do think it's likely that China will make a move on Taiwan. 

 

When it comes to how a war would play out, it's almost impossible to predict accurately, even with the most advanced wargaming. There is a significant difference between simulation and reality; sometimes, what appears highly plausible on paper or in simulations does not translate to actual events when you really think about it.   @scoobdog                       I'm not sure about the best example, but I recall that in the 1920s, a novel was published by someone who supposedly predicted the Allied island-hopping campaign in World War II. The author was considered crazy, or so I heard from the History Channel back in the late '90s and early 2000s. Of course, it's the History Channel. 

 

I don't necessarily defend my position, and you're bringing up the old warmonger, Ghostrek. I just think the likelihood of China being able to pull off such an operation is high. I don't believe the US government would respond, but some citizens, like myself, who believe in freedom and democratic allies might take action similar to the Eagle Squadron from the RAF during World War II. However, I want to clarify that I am 95% convinced it would be a very foolish idea for me to do that.

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2 hours ago, discolé monade said:

OMG

how did you write that?

like everything else in this country.....

FRAUD

I know it's BS because he didnt start with a thread titled "I am think about not type wring"

Im cool with typos, I dont even proofread my shit 100% of the time, but nothing irks me more than....

Nevermind, I'm just gonna get myself reported again...I really wish I could let this go...its like cigarettes, that one vice that i just need to quit cold turkey but that PM he sent me on ASMB still mocks me.

I beat cigs, cant beat this dude tho

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It isn't really that complex, Ghosty.  I've never thought of you as a warmonger (literally a war salesman), just a dude that gets too far over his skis more times than not.  In this case, the discussion of whether or not China will invade Taiwan hasn't changed - it's still a campaign with too much risk and not enough reward for China.  They're fully capable of doing it and the US isn't in a position to stop it from a tactical standpoint, but if it were to happen the consequences for China would be the same, if not worse, than Russia's. 

Trust me, I get it.  In Trump World, the impossible becomes the possible when it comes to our greatest fears because Trump knows how to use them against us.  There's not guarantee that someone like Xi Jingping won't do the same thing, either.  However, Xi isn't an incompetent boob like Trump.  He knows why the guardrails are there and he knows how or when to act in a way that doesn't result in a complete breakdown of his government.  The Chinese have every reason to saber rattle about Taiwan, and inaction on their part isn't an indication that they've given up.  Just the threat that China could act is enough to freeze military assets in Southeast Asia and keep regional partners and the US at bay while they strengthen their hold on the South China Sea.  If they were to commit the soldiers, sailors, and military hardware to capture Taiwan, they become tactically vulnerable in other parts of the area.  Moreover, they damage their economic charm campaign at a time when they're already struggling to make inroads in the world market.  (Not that you asked, but one of the things Taiwan has to offer China, it's robust industry, would likely be exported to the United States where it already has a foothold well before China could establish control, taking away one of the few valuable assets that might make an invasion worthwhile.)  Mind you, Trump's foolishness is a golden opportunity for the Chinese to exploit, and that's all the more reason not to get entangled in a conflict with so little reward.

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