how holden caulfield are you?

[discolé monade]

i would like to think i'm finally down in the single digits...i hope.

8%? maybe?

[Insipid]

The older I get the more I hate that son of a bitch.

I'm probably still double digits though. 25 percent I guess.

[discolé monade]

right?

i remember thinking i was so fucking profound checking into the fucking st. charles. 

hookers and blow, pimps and cops that absolutely didn't give a fuck. 

i remember switching rooms,  you know...because of the roaches...and thinking....this really isn't all that great...you know...because of the yelling down the hall.

and finished CitR -- my 5th read through...and last. in that year.  

 

[nameraka]

On 3/10/2025 at 4:13 PM, Insipid said:

The older I get the more I hate that son of a bitch.

I'm probably still double digits though. 25 percent I guess.

I hated him the first time i read it. I was like 19. 

45% 

[Insipid]

I think The Catcher in the Rye has had an influence on Main Character Syndrome omnipresent in contemporary American culture. (I just felt like saying something deep and stupid.)

I first read when I was 13, while my parents were going through a divorce. I think I'll read it again soon.

[discolé monade]

but you're not wrong. 

i was obsessed with the book. 

[PhilosipherStoned]

Had to google that to even remember he's the guy in The Catcher in the Rye. Thanks for bringing back memories of being forced to listen to people read that god awful book, and me attempting to read it on my own for class but not even being able to make it through a whole chapter because it's sad piece of sloppy repressed memories of the author. 

edit: I sometimes forget just how polarizing of a novel it's supposed to be, and I've only read it for high school, and then later creative writing classes college level. I've never not hated it though it's almost like... If you were going to make Hayden Caulfield so unlikeable, and like a symbol of innocence or protecting it at least do it from the third person so we don't have to listen to him rambling.. The plot is lacking you have little to no character progression..

You def either love or hate that book and I'm in the hate camp. Fuck Hayden Caulfield I'm fucking triggered. 

Edited March 24 by PhilosipherStoned

[scoobdog]

So... does that make you 99% P-stoned?

[discolé monade]

lol....

now scoob...when you say p-stoned...you're not talking about...

wait...you know what?

shut up scoob. 

[Dark_Cloud_Overhead]

50% Personally I'd say I'm nothing like him, but the idea of his that adults often become really phony as they conform to society and end up losing sight of the things that really matter was the one part of the book that really stuck with me I'd say.

[[classic swim]]

[discolé monade]

if that doesn't look like the room....

pur a stand alond pedestal sink, and no clock...add some roaches....

voila! st charles motel, springfield ma. 

[discolé monade]

13 hours ago, Dark_Cloud_Overhead said:

50% Personally I'd say I'm nothing like him, but the idea of his that adults often become really phony as they conform to society and end up losing sight of the things that really matter was the one part of the book that really stuck with me I'd say.

that part. 

[PhilosipherStoned]

On 3/24/2025 at 10:05 AM, scoobdog said:

So... does that make you 99% P-stoned?

was kind of waiting for that, but no that's how everyone I've actually come in contact with physically across the states would describe that read at least. It was something when it was written in the 50's, but mainly because the boomer effect, and that's only made sadder if it's the only standing set of qualities people can use to reinforce their feeling it's a good read....The book is definitely not timeless in any regard imo. Sorry. 

Edited Friday at 06:04 AM by PhilosipherStoned

[André Toulon]

Im still trying to figure out if P read it or not. At first he says he couldn't finish a chapter, then in the same post says he read it in high School and college. 

I always just chalk it up to being high but this time I'm legit confused🤷🏿‍♂️

[scoobdog]

5 hours ago, André Toulon said:

Im still trying to figure out if P read it or not. At first he says he couldn't finish a chapter, then in the same post says he read it in high School and college. 

I always just chalk it up to being high but this time I'm legit confused🤷🏿‍♂️

I'm leaning more towards he didn't, because neither did I and I need the company.

[Top Gun]

Somehow I missed out on it in high school. I think other academic tracks had to read it, but not the one I was in. Most of what I know of it is from GITS: Stand-Alone Complex. 

[André Toulon]

I never read it either....I took several Lit classes and it never came up.

Well, topically it did but not as an assignment 

[scoobdog]

I get the feeling it’s been pushed down the priority list for literature classes because there are better books to read by better authors.  We read Beloved, which is lyrically exquisite prose.  Before that we read A Light in August which is lyrically pompous prose that offers a contrast to Morrison.  There was never any real benefit to reading Salinger.  The 80’s really introduced us Americans to a bevy of stellar homegrown (or at least home adjacent) talent.

And if you still needed white angst and war stories, Kurt Vonnegut drew titties in his book.

[discolé monade]

don't forget those great gems like, 'flowers for algernon' , 'the chocolate wars', 'i am the cheese' ,

oh...and ffs 'atlas shrugs'

 

and poor joe christmas. i think. never finished...but i last 2 paged it...just to know wtf. damn that book. 

[Top Gun]

The worst thing I had to read in high school was fucking The Awakening. Either that or A Separate Peace. Ugh.

[discolé monade]

nope. i got you beat.

homer's odyssey. 

OMG

[scoobdog]

6 hours ago, discolé monade said:

don't forget those great gems like, 'flowers for algernon' , 'the chocolate wars', 'i am the cheese' ,

oh...and ffs 'atlas shrugs'

 

and poor joe christmas. i think. never finished...but i last 2 paged it...just to know wtf. damn that book. 

William Faulkner jerked himself off to his own writing.  Safer than jerking off at a Klan rally when you’re gay i suppose. He’s not even the best white writer of the era, but, like I said, I think he was just there to compare to Toni, who is the best writer of her generation.

[scoobdog]

6 hours ago, discolé monade said:

nope. i got you beat.

homer's odyssey. 

OMG

You didn’t like the Odyssey ?

[discolé monade]

i did, and i didn't. it was difficult reading, but of course the story was wonderful. 

once i got the cliffs notes, i got a grasp on it. i want to say that was 10th?

shakespeare: i liked taming of the shrue, midsummer's night, but romeo and juliet. bleh. 

 

[scoobdog]

Oh, yeah:  you definitely need an aid when it comes to reading Homer.  Like Beowulf, it’s an oral tradition, so a lot is lost in translation not just through the language but in the performance itself.  Naturally, they don’t tell you any of that shit in high school because than it might make sense.

[Dark_Cloud_Overhead]

About the only novels I can still remember reading for school were The Catcher in the Rye, The Great Gatsby, and... Jayne Eyre? Not totally sure about that last one. Oh, and Silent Spring, although might have read that one on my own. Not really sure anymore. Damn I'm getting old.

[discolé monade]

omg...forgot about the great gatsby. i think that was 9th grade. pretty sure. 

OOOH

animal farm-what was one of my favorites. i saw kids in the 6th grade "advanced english' reading it....so i did too. really good, i naturally moved onto 'lord of the flies'