Dark_Cloud_Overhead Posted February 19 Posted February 19 2 hours ago, MasqueradeOverture said: ... https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2025/feb/18/trump-signs-executive-order-allowing-attorney-gene/ Wow, so not only does this one pretty much blatantly violate the first amendment to free speech, it's also clearly an attempt to seize the power of the judicial branch to interpret the law and make it the sole power of the president and attorney general. Guess he's trying to top himself for his all time most illegal EO yet. He must be really planning on taking Bondi as his next wife or at least make her his mistress to include her in this. Most king's had mistresses right? There's at least one precedent I bet he wouldn't mind following. 4 Quote
Raptorpat Posted February 19 Posted February 19 I just read the order. It isn't attempting to take over the judiciary, it's just unitary executive shit where everything that isn't the courts or congress must flow through his office. So instead of attacking the courts, it's attacking institutions that were intentionally set up to be at arm's reach from politics (the exception cited in the EO is Fed monetary policy). 3 Quote
Dark_Cloud_Overhead Posted February 19 Posted February 19 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Raptorpat said: I just read the order. It isn't attempting to take over the judiciary, it's just unitary executive shit where everything that isn't the courts or congress must flow through his office. So instead of attacking the courts, it's attacking institutions that were intentionally set up to be at arm's reach from politics (the exception cited in the EO is Fed monetary policy). Yeah, I was thinking I might be reading too much into the description they were giving on this one and that the actual text of the order might be a bit different than what they were describing. It's still bad, but not at bad as I thought then. Actually, looking at it again I really just misread it and ignored the instead of part in there. That's my bad. Edited February 19 by Dark_Cloud_Overhead 1 Quote
Raptorpat Posted February 19 Posted February 19 Quote President Donald Trump on Tuesday signed a sweeping executive order bringing independent agencies under the control of the White House — an action that would greatly expand his power but is likely to attract significant legal challenges. It represents Trump’s latest attempt to consolidate power beyond boundaries other presidents have observed and to test the so-called unitary executive theory, which states that the president has the sole authority over the executive branch. And it reflects the influence of Russ Vought, Trump’s budget chief, one of several conservatives in his orbit who have called for axing independent arms of the executive branch. The theory was long considered fringe, and many mainstream legal scholars still believe it is illegal, given that Congress set the agencies up specifically to act independently, or semi-independently, from the president. These include the Federal Communications Commission, the Federal Trade Commission and the Securities and Exchange Commission, all of which enact regulations and can impose hefty fines on businesses that violate the rules. Other presidents have not only declined to challenge the independence of these agencies in court, but have in many cases tried to avoid even the appearance of interference in their actions. Many leaders appointed to the agencies serve terms that last longer than a single presidency, in an effort to help shield them from political pressure. The order would take that independence away by granting Vought, who reports to Trump, supervising power. The executive order requires Vought, as the director of the Office of Management and Budget, to “establish performance standards and management objectives” for the heads of independent agencies and “report periodically to the President on their performance and efficiency in attaining such standards and objectives.” It also requires Vought to review and make changes to the agencies’ budgets “as necessary and appropriate, to advance the President’s policies and priorities.” “For the Federal Government to be truly accountable to the American people, officials who wield vast executive power must be supervised and controlled by the people’s elected President,” the executive order states. While the executive order is sweeping in nature and represents a fundamental reshaping of the federal government, it effectively codifies actions the Trump administration has already been taking, setting up the administration’s legal position in an expected court fight. Trump has, for instance, already fired Gwynne Wilcox, chair of the National Labor Relations Board, the NLRB’s general counsel, Jennifer Abruzzo, and Office of Government Ethics Director David Huitema. Wilcox has filed a lawsuit contesting her dismissal. And Vought, almost immediately upon taking office, assumed the title of acting director of the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, another independent agency, halting further funding to the agency and firing its employees en masse. But the order has broad — and potentially immediate — implications for a host of other independent agencies that have not yet been penetrated by the administration. And while it doesn’t apply to the Federal Reserve’s handling of monetary policy, it does apply to the Fed’s other responsibilities, including overseeing banks and other financial institutions. Independent agencies often find themselves in the political crosshairs, either because they take actions that appear to align or conflict with a sitting president’s agenda. Those include the SEC’s efforts during the Biden era to force companies to disclose the risks they face from climate change, as well as the FCC’s more recent actions to investigate companies such as CBS for alleged bias against Trump during the 2024 campaign. Under the order, independent agencies must appoint White House liaisons and “regularly consult with and coordinate policies and priorities” with not only Vought’s office but the White House Domestic Policy Council and National Economic Council. It also neuters the agencies’ attorneys by asserting that “no employee of the executive branch acting in their official capacity may advance an interpretation of the law as the position of the United States that contravenes the President or the Attorney General’s opinion on a matter of law.” Trump had made less dramatic intrusions into independent agencies’ power during his first term, including by pressuring both the FTC and FCC to punish social media networks accused of censoring conservatives — including himself. In one episode that made headlines, Trump met with then-FTC Chair Joseph Simons in the White House and pushed him to take action on the censorship allegations, as POLITICO reported in August 2020. Simons had told lawmakers he considered the matter outside the agency’s jurisdiction. Trump also stunned lawmakers that year by withdrawing the renomination of Republican FCC member Michael O’Rielly, who had expressed skepticism about using his agency’s powers to penalize online platforms for alleged ideological bias. “I shudder to think of a day in which the Fairness Doctrine could be reincarnated for the internet, especially at the ironic behest of so-called free speech ‘defenders,’” O’Rielly said in a speech a few days before Trump pulled the plug on him. The GOP-held Senate swiftly confirmed Trump’s replacement for O’Rielly, fellow Republican Nathan Simington. In contrast, former President Barack Obama faced complaints from Republicans when he took actions that appeared to blur the lines between White House policy and the agencies’ decision-making. Those included Obama recording a video message in 2014 to urge his FCC chair to adopt strong net neutrality regulations, as well as a 2011 White House visit by Obama’s FTC chair on the same day that senior Google officials — whose company was under an antitrust investigation — were on the premises. https://www.politico.com/news/2025/02/18/trump-order-power-independent-agencies-00204798 Quote
SwimOdin Posted February 19 Posted February 19 Grifters gonna grift. He learned a lot from Jake Paul. 4 Quote
André Toulon Posted February 19 Posted February 19 It's cool, I was done with him after throwing that match. Trump can have him...I got a few 80s heroes left 3 Quote
1pooh4u Posted February 19 Posted February 19 Trump’s DoT axes congestion pricing in NYC. Pretty sure it won’t stick. So much for “state’s rights” https://abc7ny.com/post/nyc-congestion-pricing-us-department-transportation-pulls-approval-toll/15932192/# I didn’t like congestion pricing. Preliminary data shows it has relieved congestion somewhat but we really need to see long term. Plus the MTA has been mismanaged for so fuckin long Idt they should be rewarded with a new tax they will receive to in turn mismanage the funds. I also think it’s outrageous that people living in the CZs didn’t have to pay the fees at all. Not even a reduced fee like when SI residents cross the VZ but nothing at all. all that said it already cleared all the hurdles regardless if I like it or not. Trump should mind his fuckin business and maybe do something other than strong arm Foreign Leaders, allow billionaires to loot our agencies, stuff his fat fuckin face with Big Macs and lie. 4 Quote
Jman Posted February 19 Author Posted February 19 2 minutes ago, 1pooh4u said: Trump’s DoT axes congestion pricing in NYC. Pretty sure it won’t stick. So much for “state’s rights” Make America the 80s again. This is definitely going to court. 4 Quote
1pooh4u Posted February 19 Posted February 19 15 minutes ago, Jman said: Make America the 80s again. This is definitely going to court. Pretty sure it won’t even be stopped as it goes through the process because it already went through the process The NYP thinks this is “normal” a President gleefully being called “a king” 3 1 Quote
1pooh4u Posted February 19 Posted February 19 Jfc idk up from down left from right anymore. Where am I? What timeline is this? 1 3 Quote
Jman Posted February 19 Author Posted February 19 39 minutes ago, 1pooh4u said: Pretty sure it won’t even be stopped as it goes through the process because it already went through the process The NYP thinks this is “normal” a President gleefully being called “a king” The day Murdoch dies and his liberal kids pop the bubble (now that the court ruled they would have majority ownership over the one conservative kid) is going to be the biggest shell shock in media history. 3 Quote
1pooh4u Posted February 19 Posted February 19 12 minutes ago, Jman said: The day Murdoch dies and his liberal kids pop the bubble (now that the court ruled they would have majority ownership over the one conservative kid) is going to be the biggest shell shock in media history. I hope I get to see that day. The day the NYP gets its shit pushed in. Ofc we got bigger problems than just the NYP and the Murdoch’s but his death, if followed by instructions of honesty and integrity in journalism, would be some help. The Washington Post was recently accused of killing a 6 figure ad asking Trump to fire Musk. https://www.businessinsider.com/see-fire-elon-musk-ad-washington-post-scrapped-2025-2 3 Quote
discolé monade Posted February 20 Posted February 20 in the words of the great jack skellington, "what's this? what's this?" The drop followed a report by the Washington Post that Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth has told top Pentagon brass to prepare to cut the U.S. defense budget by 8% each year for the next five years. Quote
Jman Posted February 20 Author Posted February 20 Fucking with defense is a mistake they’ll regret. It’s the one sector with enough power to really influence things. 4 Quote
discolé monade Posted February 20 Posted February 20 we shall see. i have to say, there is a SHIT TON of waste in the military....so it will be interesting to see what they'll cut. i was there for the closing of mcas tustin and el toro. and that was a shit show. Quote
CountFrylock Posted February 20 Posted February 20 We’re in this situation because politics became such a no no word that people actively started to ignore them… you can ignore politics but politics won’t ignore you Politics affect everything so the idea you can just turn off political news and avoid it completely is insane Quote
tsar4 Posted February 20 Posted February 20 https://bsky.app/profile/govpritzker.illinois.gov/post/3lil7raa7vc2y 4 Quote
discolé monade Posted February 20 Posted February 20 you can see the bloodshot eyes, in almost every picture. musky musk must got the good K 3 Quote
Insipid Posted February 20 Posted February 20 5 minutes ago, discolé monade said: you can see the bloodshot eyes, in almost every picture. musky musk must got the good K I was about to say fortunately overuse of ketamine results in irreparable bladder damage . . . but then I realized this asshole probably has connections to get a harvested bladder. 2 Quote
[classic swim] Posted February 20 Posted February 20 So you only cling to fairy tales because one-too-many times, people on the computer called you a ditz. Not knowing things make head go owie! So you pick up Don Cornelius 11:28-30 because it’s the spiteful bullshit artist act it’s always been. They’re wanting the Gervais cross photoshoot to be counterculture again in the distant future so I’m breaking my New Years resolution once. Non-believer outburst over. Quote
discolé monade Posted February 20 Posted February 20 Maine is posed to lose educational funding(?) Just last week, the Maine Principals Association announced it would not enforce President Donald Trump's executive order banning biological males from participating in girls' and women's sports. 1 Quote
Insipid Posted February 20 Posted February 20 1 hour ago, tsar4 said: Shitocracy seems quite apt, considering enshittification is an officially coined term now. 4 Quote
discolé monade Posted February 20 Posted February 20 (edited) Trump approval rating underwater 1 month into second term: Survey wait until the self hating magacult realize he isn't with them. like..at all. Edited February 20 by discolé monade 6 Quote
1pooh4u Posted February 20 Posted February 20 Kash Patel was confirmed as head of FBI. What does that mean, idk. Probably they’re gonna act as Trump’s personal police. We’ll see. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/live-blog/rcna192792 4 Quote
Dark_Cloud_Overhead Posted February 20 Posted February 20 Yep, goodbye FBI... hello Gestapo. And hey, what happened to McConnell the rebel? Heh, announces he's not running again and then goes right back to his old ways supporting probably the most dangerous of all the nominees. Guess he got tired of the act or just figured no one was buying it. Not that his vote would have been enough, or that any of the republicans including Collins and Murkowski would have voted no if it could have ever possibly blocked the confirmation. Make no mistake, there's not a sliver of independence left in the republican party anymore. 6 Quote
tsar4 Posted February 20 Posted February 20 11 minutes ago, 1pooh4u said: Kash Patel was confirmed as head of FBI. What does that mean, idk. Probably they’re gonna act as Trump’s personal police. We’ll see. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/live-blog/rcna192792 A US Gulag outside of Point Barrow, AK. 2 Quote
discolé monade Posted February 20 Posted February 20 these turnips want a war. i'm tellin' you. and the draft will follow. Tech billionaire Elon Musk, who has been given a prominent role in the Trump administration, said on social media the designation "means they're eligible for drone strikes." in regards to mexico and the terrorist drug cartels. 2 Quote
1pooh4u Posted February 20 Posted February 20 Elon Musk wants access to Fort Knox. Idek if that’s still a thing but Trump wants to “make sure the gold is still there” lol the vault hasn’t been opened in like 50 years and there’s a zero percent chance that if gold is within, Musk doesn’t lie, claim it’s gone, and either steal all half or most 3 Quote
André Toulon Posted February 20 Posted February 20 7 minutes ago, 1pooh4u said: Elon Musk wants access to Fort Knox. Idek if that’s still a thing but Trump wants to “make sure the gold is still there” lol the vault hasn’t been opened in like 50 years and there’s a zero percent chance that if gold is within, Musk doesn’t lie, claim it’s gone, and either steal all half or most 🤦🏿♂️ I swear....every damn day just get fucking stupider 1 4 Quote
1pooh4u Posted February 21 Posted February 21 14 minutes ago, André Toulon said: 🤦🏿♂️ I swear....every damn day just get fucking stupider What do you mean? If they still hold gold there and they let Musk in, what could possibly go wrong? 🫠 seriously, Trump should hire Geraldo Rivera to make a big deal about opening it (after Musk loots it). A two hour special complete with interviews that ends with the opening of an empty vault. who would possibly believe the world’s richest man would steal the Fort Knox gold reserves or wtf is supposed to be in there? 🫠 fuckin hell fuck 😆 1 5 Quote
katt_goddess Posted February 21 Posted February 21 19 hours ago, Insipid said: I was about to say fortunately overuse of ketamine results in irreparable bladder damage . . . but then I realized this asshole probably has connections to get a harvested bladder. Considering he hangs out with someone who actively shits himself and marinates in it rather than changing his diaper, he probably doesn't worry too much because no one will think the smell is coming from him. Whoever is supplying the K could be the next greatest American hero if they just so happened to change the formula. Just sayin'... 4 Quote
Insipid Posted February 21 Posted February 21 1 hour ago, André Toulon said: 🤦🏿♂️ I swear....every damn day just get fucking stupider But wait, there's more. 3 Quote
André Toulon Posted February 21 Posted February 21 5 minutes ago, Insipid said: But wait, there's more. You can really feel his lack of personality every time he gets on camera.....but I definitely enjoy that despite that flaw, he's still siphoning Trump's limelight. 3 Quote
1pooh4u Posted February 21 Posted February 21 3 minutes ago, tsar4 said: So it begins…..twist words and use them out of context and find ways to criminalize speech they don’t like. 6 Quote
1pooh4u Posted February 21 Posted February 21 38 minutes ago, Insipid said: But wait, there's more. How is it going in Argentina, I wonder brb to google Well, inflation is down but poverty is up https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2024/12/30/inflation-down-poverty-up-as-milei-takes-chainsaw-to-argentinas-economy 2 Quote
Dark_Cloud_Overhead Posted February 21 Posted February 21 (edited) 24 minutes ago, tsar4 said: From the guy who defended Jan 6th rioters in court and now works for the guy who posted an image of himself holding an actual baseball bat next to the image of the attorney who was prosecuting a case against him. Hypocrisy at its worst. Edited February 21 by Dark_Cloud_Overhead 4 Quote
Dark_Cloud_Overhead Posted February 21 Posted February 21 (edited) Trump expected to take control of USPS, fire postal board, officials say "President Donald Trump is preparing to dissolve the leadership of the U.S. Postal Service and absorb the independent mail agency into his administration, potentially throwing the 250-year-old mail provider and trillions of dollars of e-commerce transactions into turmoil. Trump is expected to issue an executive order as soon as this week to fire the members of the Postal Service’s governing board and place the agency under the control of the Commerce Department and Secretary Howard Lutnick, according to six people familiar with the plans, who spoke on the condition of anonymity out of fear of reprisals. The board is planning to fight Trump’s order, three of those people told The Washington Post. In an emergency meeting Thursday, the board retained outside counsel and gave instructions to sue the White House if the president were to remove members of the board or attempt to alter the agency’s independent status. Trump’s order to place the Commerce Department in charge of the Postal Service would probably violate federal law, according to postal experts. Another executive order earlier this week instructed independent agencies to align more closely with the White House, though that order is likely to prompt court challenges and the Postal Service by law is generally exempt from executive orders." Another flashing red light with potential election rigging consequences here should this end up being pulled off. Aye yai yai. Edited February 21 by Dark_Cloud_Overhead 4 Quote
Top Gun Posted February 21 Posted February 21 Y'know it struck me as I was watching the 4 Nations hockey final tonight...I genuinely wanted Canada to win. And I fucking hate the Canadian hockey team. That's how disgusting this shit is right now. 4 Quote
André Toulon Posted February 21 Posted February 21 (edited) Disclaimer: I'm not in the business of posting false info, and I don't usually post shit I can't source or link to but I just want to post this take now before I forget. I will fact check when I get time, but It's not really the possibility that this is false that worries me. So in the truck, on the radio I hear that Trump's plan is to gut these agencies and programs then distribute the money to the American people. I have to assume he said something to this effect because I've seen a few post on Social media about how Trump will be sending out checks (God, I hate people) But here's my problem if he did indeed say this shit. Do you idiots at all realize that any money he will allegedly send you is worthless if food skyrockets, gas goes up, imported goods go up or stop existing, you can no longer afford to go to the doctor you barely can afford now, but can still go because of gov. programs, and the huge fact that none of this money will be coming from the elites that already haven't paid a dime in taxes. Sure, you can make the argument that now you're in control of the money and if you don't have health insurance, or schools or food that you can do it yourself and if you don't that's your own fault, but what you morons don't get is that a lot of y'all are fucking morons ...myself included. But I'm smart enough to know I can't grow enough food to feed my family, I can't fix a broken limb, and I damn sho ain't about to fill a pothole on the highway. Just wanted to get this out of the way....and feeling cute, might delete later if I find I got bad Intel.... Because the only thing worse than mainstream news media is the radio who is at liberty to read you a twitter feed on their 3 minute news breaks Edited February 21 by André Toulon 3 1 Quote
SwimOdin Posted February 21 Posted February 21 3 minutes ago, André Toulon said: Disclaimer: I'm not in the business of posting false info, and I don't usually post shit I can't source or link to but I just want to post this take now before I forget. I will fact check when I get time, but It's not really the possibility that this is false uat worries me. So in the truck, on the radio I hear that Trump's plan is to gut these agencies and programs then distribute the money to the American people. I have to assume he said something to this effect because I've seen a few post on Social media about how Trump will be sending out checks (God, I hate people) But here's my problem if he did indeed say this shit. Do you idiots at all realize that any money he will allegedly send you is worthless if food skyrockets, gas goes up, imported goods go up or stop existing, you can no longer afford to go to the doctor you barely can afford now, but can still go because of gov. programs, and the huge fact that none of this money will be coming from the elites that already haven't paid a dime in taxes. Sure, you can make the argument that now you're in control of the money and if you don't have health insurance, or schools or food that you can do it yourself and if you don't that's your own fault, but what you morons don't get is that a lot of y'all are for cking morons ...myself included. But I'm smart enough to know I can't grow anough food to feed my family, I can fix a broken limb, and I damn sho ain't about to fill a pothole on the highway. Just wanted to get this out of the way....and feeling cute, might delete later if I find I got bad Intel.... Because the only thing worse that mainstream media is the radio who is at liberty to read you a twitter feed on their 3 minute news breaks People are idiots are hear they’re getting $$$ and do not understand what inflation is. Pre-nazi Germany here we come. 2 3 Quote
discolé monade Posted February 21 Posted February 21 @André Toulon well...there's the white house fact sheet. and it could have been translated into two speak. and rep. omar has a counter attack 3 Quote
Raptorpat Posted February 21 Posted February 21 1 hour ago, André Toulon said: So in the truck, on the radio I hear that Trump's plan is to gut these agencies and programs then distribute the money to the American people. I have to assume he said something to this effect because I've seen a few post on Social media about how Trump will be sending out checks (God, I hate people) Musk proposed "DOGE checks" to rebate 20% of the "savings" and Trump glommed onto it. Mike Johnson shot the idea down, not that he's known for having a spine. 1 5 Quote
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