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5 hours ago, discolé monade said:

my daughter is holding toward this guy is a plant and the real assassin is still out there. 

I mean, me too...I've concocted an elaborate story, but was sure no one wanted to hear my nonsense...but now I'm doing it.

Luigi never had the heart to kill a man, 

He worked at his parents elder facilities and saw how some were just left to die when insurance would no longer pay for their procedures and some were even denied necessary medications in hope they just died. 

Seeing this, he always had a hateboner for insurance companies, but it wasn't until his own unfortunate accident and being denied proper treatment that his hate boner became murderous. 

 

So he kinda traveled around until he found someone who looked enough like him that had nothing to lose and down to catch a body. After finding his assassin, we'll call him Beans for now....Luigi started writing manifestos and leaving small hints to draw attention to himself. 

He and Beans then put their plan into action. Beans would receive 5 mil. for pulling off the murder, and then Luigi would take flight, sending authorities on a wild goose chase. Know fully well his parents were well off enough that he would never spend a day in jail, especially with his injuries and his parents money, they would buy the case. Going for the insanity plea because the pain was so intense, or something just as lax.

Luigi, once he finished the money transfer, went into a McDonald's and told an employee that he's the shooter on the run. He going to order food, have a seat and for the employee to call the police and have him picked up....He would get the reward and be a national hero 🧌

Meanwhile, Beans is laying low for a few days because there is one more name on the list that he promised to fulfill for one final transfer....ONE MORE NAME.😮

There's a lot more backstory about how they became good bros and Beans told him that he would happily take the fall and take the punishment, But Beans also has a son in need of a costly surgery...He agreed to finish the job and make sure his son has a great life for Uncle Luigi 😢....but it kinda gets dumb and I've showed enough of my guano in this post already.

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39 minutes ago, André Toulon said:

I mean, me too...I've concocted an elaborate story, but was sure no one wanted to hear my nonsense...but now I'm doing it.

Luigi never had the heart to kill a man, 

He worked at his parents elder facilities and saw how some were just left to die when insurance would no longer pay for their procedures and some were even denied necessary medications in hope they just died. 

Seeing this, he always had a hateboner for insurance companies, but it wasn't until his own unfortunate accident and being denied proper treatment that his hate boner because murderous. 

 

So he kinda traveled around until he found someone who looked enough like him that had nothing to lose and down to catch a body. After finding his assassin, we'll call him Beans for now....Luigi started writing manifestos and leaving small hints to draw attention to himself. 

He and Beans then put their plan into action. Beans would receive 5 mil. for pulling off the murder, and then Luigi would take flight, sending authorities on a wild goose chase. Know fully well his parents were well off enough that he would never spend a day in jail, especially with his injuries and his parents money, they would buy the case. Going for the insanity plea because the pain was so intense, or something just as lax.

Luigi, once he finished the money transfer, went into a McDonald's and told an employee that he's the shooter on the run. He going to order food, have a seat and for the employee to call the police and have him picked up....He would get the reward and be a national hero 🧌

Meanwhile, Beans is laying low for a few days because there is one more name on the list that he promised to fulfill for one final transfer....ONE MORE NAME.😮

There's a lot more backstory about how they became good bros and Beans told him that he would happily take the fall and take the punishment, But Beans also has a son in need of a costly surgery...He agreed to finish the job and make sure his son has a great life for Uncle Luigi 😢....but it kinda gets dumb and I've showed enough of my guano in this post already.

GET THE FUCK OUT OF MY HEAD!!!!!

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5 hours ago, discolé monade said:

my daughter is holding toward this guy is a plant and the real assassin is still out there. 

I think people are just mythologizing it.

Everything lines up perfectly with it being a privileged techbro who got angry about his chronic pain messing with his ability to have sex and it made him get deep into incel ideology so that he would be seen as a hero

No elites on the left or right benefitted from offing this guy. And there are insurance CEOs making a lot more than Thompson did. 

Mangione personally blamed United for not covering his back recovery and he clocked himself in incel ideology to justify murder, especially knowing how hated the American healthcare system is.

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3 hours ago, matrixman124 said:

I think people are just mythologizing it.

Everything lines up perfectly with it being a privileged techbro who got angry about his chronic pain messing with his ability to have sex and it made him get deep into incel ideology so that he would be seen as a hero

No elites on the left or right benefitted from offing this guy. And there are insurance CEOs making a lot more than Thompson did. 

Mangione personally blamed United for not covering his back recovery and he clocked himself in incel ideology to justify murder, especially knowing how hated the American healthcare system is.

What does this have anything to do with incel ideology? I don't think he killed a CEO because women weren't giving him sex.

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6 minutes ago, matrixman124 said:

Incel ideology is blaming other people for your lack of sex. I think we're seeing an extreme version of that

I don't. Luigi had an active social life and probably had lots of sex. Just cause his back issues hindered his ability to sexually perform does not mean he is an incel.

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5 minutes ago, André Toulon said:

Thanks for clearing that part up because I don't know enough about what actually makes an incel, but my limited knowledge didn't make me assume he was one. 

He's a rich, Italian stallion stereotype. Pretty sure dude fucks if possible.

The dude does not fuck because of his chronic pain that wasn't treated because United Healthcare rejected his insurance claim

No he's not blaming women he's blaming the corporation that has made it so he can't fuck

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3 minutes ago, matrixman124 said:

The dude does not fuck because of his chronic pain that wasn't treated because United Healthcare rejected his insurance claim

No he's not blaming women he's blaming the corporation that has made it so he can't fuck

That may be a part of his animus, but I feel like it went quite a bit deeper than that. It sounds like it made him feel like his whole life was going off the rails a bit and that nobody around him could understand at all what he was going through. That type of feeling of sudden social isolation for someone, who from the sounds of it was used to having just about everything go his way up until then, had to be pretty jarring. There's also the intellectual views this guy had about society at large that this whole experience seems to have made him begin to question and start reevaluating. Ultimately it led him to look for someone to blame, and typical target when looking to assign blame is people in power.

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1 hour ago, matrixman124 said:

The dude does not fuck because of his chronic pain that wasn't treated because United Healthcare rejected his insurance claim

No he's not blaming women he's blaming the corporation that has made it so he can't fuck

I think you're misunderstanding the meaning of incel. And someone having back pain doesn't mean they can't fuck. Mine was a natural disaster for the entirety of my sex life............. Come back sex life! 😢

Incels don't have sex out of rejection. They're blaming the people who denied sex to them for not getting any as opposed to reflecting on why they can't and improving.

Aggression over dysfunction isn't the same as lashing out at people for making you feel inadequate.

Unless the sexual prospect was Brian Thompson, it isn't really incel shit. Something tells me there wasn't a whole lot of courtship happening.

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1 hour ago, André Toulon said:

Thanks for clearing that part up because I don't know enough about what actually makes an incel, but my limited knowledge didn't make me assume he was one. 

He's a rich, Italian stallion stereotype. Pretty sure dude fucks if possible.

Incel = Involuntary celibate

Think of the worst "alpha" chud you know, specifically one who tries to act cool but is clearly so desperate to get laid that they've made their personality about how actually they don't want the sex they can't get because women are dumb and sex with them is gay.

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2 hours ago, matrixman124 said:

The dude does not fuck because of his chronic pain that wasn't treated because United Healthcare rejected his insurance claim

No he's not blaming women he's blaming the corporation that has made it so he can't fuck

Involuntary Celibacy doesn't mean literally anyone incapable of fucking - it's very specifically a response to feminism and LGBTQIA+ advocacy in context of toxic masculinity.  Just because the guy may have lost it because he was unable to have sexual intimacy, that doesn't mean he was emotionally incapable of intimacy which is what INCELs are at their very core.

I say that knowing full well we have no insight into his thinking at this point.  We don't actually know what the women in his life think of him or of his inability to be physically intimate.  We don't know if there is someone who directly hurt him or if he simply death spiraled into depression on his own.  We can reasonably guess as to what happened, and that only goes so far.  Still, there is no overt evidence that Luigi Mangione is a misogynist, or bigot, or an abuser - he would need to be at least one of those to truly delve into INCEL ideology.

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I’m not changing my opinion on what the dude did just because we definitely didn’t share political ideology.  I said from the start idgaf that he killed a UHC CEO and discovering that he’s a conservative republican is not going to change that.  I still didn’t want him caught.  It’s not like the dude was Ted Bundy or some shit.  

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19 hours ago, 1pooh4u said:

I’m not changing my opinion on what the dude did just because we definitely didn’t share political ideology.  I said from the start idgaf that he killed a UHC CEO and discovering that he’s a conservative republican is not going to change that.  I still didn’t want him caught.  It’s not like the dude was Ted Bundy or some shit.  

mid and i are doing this thing. and yesterday i had to talk with and deal with MAGAs. i appreciated the donation, and even stated, 'i'm very glad we can work together dispite opposing views' 

i'm not entirely sure i want to deal with any of them.....but here we are. 

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I was listening to the news and they reported that it’s not that the McDonald’s snitch won’t get anything but they claim 30 tips led to the capture of Mangione. I guess it’s either getting split or they will decide which tip was the most helpful. Idk but this is certain, no one is likely to snitch for a payout so fast next time 

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I'm annoyed at how the media is infantalizing public opinion of the murder. Everyone knows murder is bad, and it's of course preferable to avoid violence, but don't act as if the system currently isn't working as it's designed, to protect the interests and wealth of the elite. The French and Russian Revolutions effectively used violence to oust the elites after all.

This incident has proven there is a thirst for actual left wing populism, and Democrats can seize this opportunity. I know not to get too hopeful, but this whole incident has made realize there is gonna be quite a bit of disillusionment with Trump. He'll manage to still pull the wool over the eyes over the genuinely stupid of course, but contrary to popular belief I don't think they make up the majority of his electorate.

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On 12/6/2024 at 1:43 PM, 1pooh4u said:

Every post I see of people pretending to be surprised that we don’t gaf has been met with a lot of “are you for real?” Type of responses. The hit man is a hero not a villain to most of us 

This wasn’t a hitman. This was divine justice. This was the voice of the people made manifest. This was bringing balance to the force. This was the will of Thanos. 

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1 hour ago, Insipid said:

Trump doesn't like that people are valorizing Luigi. Uh oh, looks like this incident hit a little too close to home to someone. 🤭

https://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-luigi-mangione-terrible-shooting-unitedhealthcare-2024-12?utm_source=reddit.com

They turned on Ben Shapiro but I wonder is this going to be the thing that makes his supporters change their minds.  

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1 hour ago, Insipid said:

Trump doesn't like that people are valorizing Luigi. Uh oh, looks like this incident hit a little too close to home to someone. 🤭

https://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-luigi-mangione-terrible-shooting-unitedhealthcare-2024-12?utm_source=reddit.com

Only Trump is allowed to shoot someone.

He won't lose any votes.

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23 minutes ago, 1pooh4u said:

Who did he terrorize? The super greedy? 

"Terrorism" generally is the use of violence to make a political statement or to coerce policy changes in some way. Assuming everything we know is true, it's hard to argue this doesn't fit that bill - even if it's a sympathetic issue. 

The state will have a more specific definition of terrorism within the penal code, so it'd be on the the prosecution to prove that it checks off all those relevant boxes.

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