Another Olympic Controversy

[discolé monade]

In its quest for “fairness,” the IOC announced Sunday morning that not only was it giving Romania’s Ana Barbosu a bronze medal in the floor exercise, but it also was stripping Chiles of hers. Chiles did nothing wrong. She didn’t dope. She didn’t cheat. She didn’t break any laws. She wasn't even the one who submitted an appeal that we know now was done four seconds too late.

[Top Gun]

31 minutes ago, 1pooh4u said:

The biggest controversy was that awful “breaking” routine to that awful fuckin music. It was awful and an insult to break dancing. Maybe an insult to all hip hop. Idk what is going on with me lately but this routine hit me  in a way that made me wanna break my device like I really hope the other routines were true to the art and not this both hilarious and rage inducing routine 

Her routine may have royally sucked (I haven't seen it myself), but the talking heads in that video you posted are complete fucking assholes. Which makes sense, because Sky Australia is a Rupert Murdoch News Corp. shit-peddler.

[1pooh4u]

2 minutes ago, discolé monade said:

In its quest for “fairness,” the IOC announced Sunday morning that not only was it giving Romania’s Ana Barbosu a bronze medal in the floor exercise, but it also was stripping Chiles of hers. Chiles did nothing wrong. She didn’t dope. She didn’t cheat. She didn’t break any laws. She wasn't even the one who submitted an appeal that we know now was done four seconds too late.

I saw this and I was just smh 4 seconds too late over an error the judges made. They did not give her points for part of her routine it’s not fair to say “oh well we fucked up so sorry but you fucked up by inquiring at 1 min 4 seconds instead of the 1 minute we allow” they wanted to fuck Chiles from the start cuz everyone gave up on her. Everyone except Simone Biles. They trained together she really helped Chiles out. Chiles getting the bronze cements Biles as truly the GOAT and we can’t have that. Can we? 

[1pooh4u]

2 minutes ago, Top Gun said:

Her routine may have royally sucked (I haven't seen it myself), but the talking heads in that video you posted are complete fucking assholes. Which makes sense, because Sky Australia is a Rupert Murdoch News Corp. shit-peddler.

They’re terrible but her routine was truly truly awful.  Maybe the talking heads are assholes. Idk I don’t live in Australia. Could they have been less mean? Sure but her routine was really terrible. You wouldn’t see a floor routine for gymnastics or any other dance like event be so awful unless the athlete was having a bad day. The moves the music choice. I was trying to find it so you can see it but I can’t find one the demonstrates how bad it was. 

[1pooh4u]

https://www.nbcconnecticut.com/paris-2024-summer-olympics/questions-rise-about-olympic-breakings-authenticity-2024-paris/3359863/
 

here’s another article 

[André Toulon]

I've been looking for a compilation but I guess she was the only one that sucked donkey balls.

I agree that she wasn't a real competitor and was there just to mock the genre, but I watch videos of white people fucking up dancing all the time, so I'd feel like a hypocrite if I went full on anger over this.

Not to say all white people suck, there's this dude that I think is from Ukraine I follow that is bar none the best poplocker I've seen in decades. There a NY news caster that apparently "is always invited to the cookout" because of his hip-hop dances. So it's not to say it's cultural appropriation because no one is vying for these dudes to stop....it's only when you look stupid doing it that people get mad.

The durag thing kinda chaffs my ass tho, but not enough for me to crusade over the Internet about it.

[Top Gun]

At least for the music bit, the breakers didn't actually pick their own music for their routines. They had to perform to whatever the DJs threw at them. 

[Jman]

Breakdancing is definitely going the way karate did in 2021 after that farce where the guy that got knocked out won the gold because of an excessive contact rule.

[1pooh4u]

41 minutes ago, André Toulon said:

I've been looking for a compilation but I guess she was the only one that sucked donkey balls.

I agree that she wasn't a real competitor and was there just to mock the genre, but I watch videos of white people fucking up dancing all the time, so I'd feel like a hypocrite if I went full on anger over this.

Not to say all white people suck, there's this dude that I think is from Ukraine I follow that is bar none the best poplocker I've seen in decades. There a NY news caster that apparently "is always invited to the cookout" because of his hip-hop dances. So it's not to say it's cultural appropriation because no one is vying for these dudes to stop....it's only when you look stupid doing it that people get mad.

The durag thing kinda chaffs my ass tho, but not enough for me to crusade over the Internet about it.

Her participation felt like nonsense almost like the event wasn’t being taken seriously 

the Lithuanian breaker at least acknowledged the origin of break dancing 

[1pooh4u]

39 minutes ago, Top Gun said:

At least for the music bit, the breakers didn't actually pick their own music for their routines. They had to perform to whatever the DJs threw at them. 

That’s part of the problem then, being given ridiculous music although her routine would have been awful with any music 😆

[1pooh4u]

15 minutes ago, Jman said:

Breakdancing is definitely going the way karate did in 2021 after that farce where the guy that got knocked out won the gold because of an excessive contact rule.

Did Karate get removed from the Olympics? (Idek it was part of it)

[Jman]

28 minutes ago, 1pooh4u said:

Did Karate get removed from the Olympics? (Idek it was part of it)

https://www.nbcbayarea.com/paris-2024-summer-olympics/olympic-sports-dropped-2024-paris-games/3441074/#:~:text=According to Reuters%2C karate was,to attract a younger audience.”

Yes, it was.  Because "It lacked entertainment value."  Considering that the ruleset was essentially tag, I get it.  

[1pooh4u]

5 minutes ago, Jman said:

https://www.nbcbayarea.com/paris-2024-summer-olympics/olympic-sports-dropped-2024-paris-games/3441074/#:~:text=According to Reuters%2C karate was,to attract a younger audience.”

Yes, it was.  Because "It lacked entertainment value."  Considering that the ruleset was essentially tag, I get it.  

I’m confused as hell. Why so many contact rules for a combat sport?  That’s a recipe for failure if it’s a competition of sparring 

[katt_goddess]

42 minutes ago, 1pooh4u said:

I’m confused as hell. Why so many contact rules for a combat sport?  That’s a recipe for failure if it’s a competition of sparring 

There's contact rules in karate because it's a 'sport' that could potentially kill or at least seriously injure someone in the process. 

Your skill is basically smack the absolute crap out of your opponent but also be skilled enough to pull your punches and remove yourself in a second.

[Top Gun]

I wish they'd remove judo, or at least not throw it on the broadcast so much. Boring as hell to watch.

[Jman]

7 minutes ago, Top Gun said:

I wish they'd remove judo, or at least not throw it on the broadcast so much. Boring as hell to watch.

This is where we disagree.  The throws in judo are works of art.  And it’s not like the matches go that long.  4 minutes with a sudden death for a point?  Way better than karate the way it was in the Olympics.  And considering the French have an amazing judo team, no way in hell were they going to keep that off the schedule.

27 minutes ago, katt_goddess said:

There's contact rules in karate because it's a 'sport' that could potentially kill or at least seriously injure someone in the process. 

Your skill is basically smack the absolute crap out of your opponent but also be skilled enough to pull your punches and remove yourself in a second.

That doesn’t really work when you have boxing switching from the old amateur point total system to a standard 10 point must system akin to professional bouts.  They changed the rules to have it be more violent.

[Top Gun]

5 minutes ago, Jman said:

This is where we disagree.  The throws in judo are works of art.  And it’s not like the matches go that long.  4 minutes with a sudden death for a point?  Way better than karate the way it was in the Olympics.  And considering the French have an amazing judo team, no way in hell were they going to keep that off the schedule.

I'm sure there was a lot of entertainment value for those who know what they're looking at, but as a complete casual my problem is that I wasn't seeing any throws. I gave it a try a few times, and every match I saw was a lot of grappling at each other's robes, interrupted by the ref warning one of the fighters for not doing anything. Maybe I just got really unlucky and found all of the uneventful matches. Now taekwondo was a lot more fun. A good roundhouse kick to the head transcends sport knowledge.

Y'know what, let's get those breakers back in the next Olympics doing capoeira. I wanna see some Eddy Gordo shit.

[1pooh4u]

1 hour ago, katt_goddess said:

There's contact rules in karate because it's a 'sport' that could potentially kill or at least seriously injure someone in the process. 

Your skill is basically smack the absolute crap out of your opponent but also be skilled enough to pull your punches and remove yourself in a second.

Boxing isn’t like that though and it’s in the Olympics 

[Jman]

Speaking of the sweet science, the US had a rather poor showing this year, but I think that’s because our system has fighters go off to the pro ranks faster and faster, in search of million dollar paydays vs country glory.  This happened last night in the featherweight division, proof that US has good boxers, but they’re turning pro vs preparing for the Olympics - 

 

[katt_goddess]

1 hour ago, Jman said:

That doesn’t really work when you have boxing switching from the old amateur point total system to a standard 10 point must system akin to professional bouts.  They changed the rules to have it be more violent.

 

1 hour ago, 1pooh4u said:

Boxing isn’t like that though and it’s in the Olympics 

People who watch boxing aren't really watching it for fluid motion and pin-point accuracy. 

They are watching in the hopes a bloody mouth piece goes flying into the audience like a guitar pic at a rock concert.  

[Jman]

8 minutes ago, katt_goddess said:

 

People who watch boxing aren't really watching it for fluid motion and pin-point accuracy. 

They are watching in the hopes a bloody mouth piece goes flying into the audience like a guitar pic at a rock concert.  

I watch boxing for the sport…and to see someone get the fuck beat out of them.

 

[1pooh4u]

23 minutes ago, katt_goddess said:

 

People who watch boxing aren't really watching it for fluid motion and pin-point accuracy. 

They are watching in the hopes a bloody mouth piece goes flying into the audience like a guitar pic at a rock concert.  

I’m not buying it, sorry 

[discolé monade]

52 minutes ago, katt_goddess said:

 

 MOST People who watch boxing aren't really watching it for fluid motion and pin-point accuracy. 

They are watching in the hopes a bloody mouth piece goes flying into the audience like a guitar pic at a rock concert.  

fixed. i grew up watching the greats, and that's exactly what i would watch for, especially for points. sure, a little blood happens, but don't want the fight stopped. 

eh....just me? 

 

[katt_goddess]

24 minutes ago, discolé monade said:

fixed. i grew up watching the greats, and that's exactly what i would watch for, especially for points. sure, a little blood happens, but don't want the fight stopped. 

eh....just me? 

 

Eh, my goals with certain sports are very simplistic. 

Karate is a contest of two people trying to play 'I'm not touching you' while still attempting to leave bruises before the ref calls you on the touching. 

Boxing is two people trying to see who can knock the other guy through the floor while both wear pillows wrapped around their hands to make it last longer.

Sumo is cheering for whoever weighs the least.

[Top Gun]

Hol up.

[1pooh4u]

15 hours ago, Top Gun said:

Hol up.

Even if the deadline was missed she should’ve still kept her medal if it’s true that medals only get revoked for doping and other cheating.  Chiles’ is being punished for a mistake the judges made. Very crazy 

[1pooh4u]

Been reading that Raygun purposely danced like a jack ass because she didn’t want break dancing to go mainstream by becoming a serious Olympic event. Also read her husband was a judge at some of her (maybe all) competitions. I have not looked into this yet so it could just be bullshit. Sounds kinda bullshitty 

[1pooh4u]

I’m going with that was bullshit she really was the best Australia has to offer.  Idk why the country would compete in an event like that but whatever. I never have to watch it again so it’s all good. 

https://www.nbcchicago.com/paris-2024-summer-olympics/breaking-community-defends-b-girl-raygun-after-olympic-dancing-sparks-online-comments/3519940/?amp=1

[Jman]

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/sports/other/six-new-sports-revealed-for-next-olympics-as-one-gets-scrapped/ar-AA1oElVH?ocid=winp2fptaskbar&cvid=4627c26e50004b6794b008b5b9efb17b&ei=13
 

If her idea was to keep it underground, it worked.  Breaking is no longer an event.

[1pooh4u]

Irish swimmer sick after swimming in the Seine 😬😆

https://nypost.com/2024/08/12/sports/daniel-wiffen-hospitalized-misses-olympics-closing-ceremony/?utm_campaign=iphone_nyp&utm_source=pasteboard_app
 

https://dve.iheart.com/content/2024-08-12-olympian-hospitalized-after-swimming-in-river-that-led-to-delay/

[1pooh4u]

1 hour ago, Jman said:

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/sports/other/six-new-sports-revealed-for-next-olympics-as-one-gets-scrapped/ar-AA1oElVH?ocid=winp2fptaskbar&cvid=4627c26e50004b6794b008b5b9efb17b&ei=13
 

If her idea was to keep it underground, it worked.  Breaking is no longer an event.

That’s the claims I’m reading but really, who knows?

 Surprised that boxing might be dropped. Idr an Olympics without it. Flag football should be interesting. They said there will be no o linemen. Is that usually how flag football is played? 

[1pooh4u]

I guess it isn’t played with O lineman. I’d watch it. Curious af about it

https://nflflag.com/coaches/default/flag-football-rules/football-positions#:~:text=Instead of linemen%2C there are,the offensive team from scoring.

[naraku360]

1 hour ago, Jman said:

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/sports/other/six-new-sports-revealed-for-next-olympics-as-one-gets-scrapped/ar-AA1oElVH?ocid=winp2fptaskbar&cvid=4627c26e50004b6794b008b5b9efb17b&ei=13
 

If her idea was to keep it underground, it worked.  Breaking is no longer an event.

I highly doubt a performance being memed would singlehandedly make them remove the event.

That article literally says it already wasn't planned to happen.

[katt_goddess]

2 hours ago, 1pooh4u said:

I’m going with that was bullshit she really was the best Australia has to offer.  Idk why the country would compete in an event like that but whatever. I never have to watch it again so it’s all good. 

https://www.nbcchicago.com/paris-2024-summer-olympics/breaking-community-defends-b-girl-raygun-after-olympic-dancing-sparks-online-comments/3519940/?amp=1

To be fair, considering the size of the bugs in Australia, I wouldn't be getting a whole lot of breakdance practice in. 

It would be dancing of some kind but definitely not quality. 

[1pooh4u]

1 hour ago, katt_goddess said:

To be fair, considering the size of the bugs in Australia, I wouldn't be getting a whole lot of breakdance practice in. 

It would be dancing of some kind but definitely not quality. 

I’ve busted out some dope moves evading insects and that’s just NYC insects.  Don’t tell me she couldn’t do a better “evading death dance” considering everything down there can, and will kill you 😆🫠😆

[scoobdog]

My brother had a surprising take - he thought she should let her freak flag fly.  I’m still of the camp that breaking should be treated like a language, and the fact that she didn’t score any points kind of makes it like she’s speaking gibberish.

[Master-Debater131]

This has been one of the greatest gifts to memes in a very long time

 

[matrixman124]

On 8/10/2024 at 9:08 PM, matrixman124 said:

Imane Khelif is suing for online harassment. Happy Hunting 

 

 

 

https://variety.com/2024/tv/news/jk-rowling-elon-musk-imane-khelif-lawsuit-1236105185/

HAHAHA YES

[Insipid]

It is such a shame JK Rowling will ultimately get the Lovecraft treatment. She was an important part of many millennials' upbringing. Stupid bitch.

[matrixman124]

37 minutes ago, Insipid said:

It is such a shame JK Rowling will ultimately get the Lovecraft treatment. She was an important part of many millennials' upbringing. Stupid bitch.

Lovecraft at least regretted being a racist later on

[Insipid]

13 minutes ago, matrixman124 said:

Lovecraft at least regretted being a racist later on

That is false. His views did mellow a bit, but he was still a racist piece of shit by today's standards at the time of his death.

[matrixman124]

15 minutes ago, Insipid said:

That is false. His views did mellow a bit, but he was still a racist piece of shit by today's standards at the time of his death.

Okay at least he got less openly racist before he died lol

[1pooh4u]

Both women got gold medals and both should sue although from what I’ve seen Imane got the worst of it because that italian boxer gave up after 46 seconds 

had this been men’s competition they would be fawning all over a boxer that wins in 46 seconds 

[Blackrose321]

17 hours ago, Insipid said:

It is such a shame JK Rowling will ultimately get the Lovecraft treatment. She was an important part of many millennials' upbringing. Stupid bitch.

I've been side-eyeing her since Noma Dumezweni was cast in The Cursed Child. People were upset because a black actress was cast to play a white character. Some number of those people were definitely racist and only cared because it was a black woman who was cast. But I would also argue that a lot of people were probably just upset because they're attached to these characters and they don't frequently go to plays where gender and race are pretty flexible. I've seen Hadestown twice and the second time I saw it, Hades was black. But I've been to a handful of plays so I expect that kind of flexibility, it's not even worth discussing and he was fun to watch.

That said, Rowling tried to claim that she never said Hermione is white. But this goes back to what I said elsewhere about lies being hard to track - when you make shit up, you risk contradicting yourself. If Hermione was black all along, the fact that they cast Emma Watson would be terrible. It would also mean that Rowling was complicit because she had a huge amount of control over casting. What she accidentally indicated - and Rowling was still somewhat popular at the time so I didn't see anyone mentioning this - is that she gave a huge, life-changing role for a black girl...to a white girl. Millions of black girls all over the world were robbed of the chance to see themselves in a major black character on screen, in merchandise, etc.

In truth, Hermione was always white and Dumbledore is not gay. She wrote what she knew - straight while people. To me, retconning your own work to jump on a bandwagon is cowardly and manipulative. She's claiming she wrote a major gay character, but no one knew. She's claiming she wrote a major black character, but no one knew. Which helps no one in those demographics. Could you just imagine how different things would have been had she even alluded to this in the books, how many kids would have felt seen?

She's inherently untrustworthy because some amount of what she does is for her own ego, she likes being part of a mob, ideally at the head of it. The correct response would have been to say yeah, I wrote a straight, white cast. It was the 90's, it was what I knew, I wish I had done it differently. But that would be admitting to making a mistake and she can't do that, that takes a big person.

It just so happens that trans people are a step too far for her, even though they only make up .5% of the UK population and 99% of her waking thoughts.

Also, where is Joanne's fighting spirit when it comes to the Dutch pedo rapist who was allowed to compete? She's such a big supporter of women, protecting women from dangerous men, and yet she hasn't said a peep. Couldn't fucking care less.

[katt_goddess]

22 hours ago, Insipid said:

It is such a shame JK Rowling will ultimately get the Lovecraft treatment. She was an important part of many millennials' upbringing. Stupid bitch.

I still occasionally read the books. It's not because of the author, its because the books themselves remind me of all the times my friends and I got together for those midnight sales and going to see the movies in a friend-clump. The books aren't associated in my mind with the trash-creature the author became once she had enough money for a place with two toilets.