SwimOdin Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2023/11/09/politics/joe-manchin-wont-run-for-reelection/index.html Manchin, that is. Not sure how to feel about this one. I’ve never been a fan of his, but in the vacuum of him leaving the senate, it’s probably going to go to a republican. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobdog Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 It probably was anyway. Manchin was in an untenable situation to begin with and he didn't make it any better by playing spoiler in the name of "moderation." Having a Democrat in a deep red state isn't as useful as having a Democrat flip a seat in an purple or blue state, and this decision helps in that regard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasqueradeOverture Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 Bye bitch 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raptorpat Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 https://twitter.com/Sen_JoeManchin/status/1722698734910210420?s=20 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raptorpat Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 3 minutes ago, scoobdog said: Manchin was in an untenable situation to begin with and he didn't make it any better by playing spoiler in the name of "moderation." His problem (and Sinema's to a lesser degree) is that there is simply no more needle to thread in federal politics anymore outside of maybe Alaska. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobdog Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 5 minutes ago, Raptorpat said: His problem (and Sinema's to a lesser degree) is that there is simply no more needle to thread in federal politics anymore outside of maybe Alaska. That would be the untenable situation, yes. At the same time, there is a lot he could have done to make the Democrats' reinvestment priorities sellable to his unique constituency that he didn't do because of his personal priorities. The end result of him leaving was inevitable no matter what he did, he just didn't make it easier on himself or his caucus by going about it the way he did. Sinema, on the other hand, had more leeway. You only have to look at her fellow in-state Senator to see how to navigate Arizona politics as a Democrat. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katt_goddess Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 He heard that George Santos was planning on running in Virginia as a Super Virginian and decided that's all folks. Hope the door splits his cheeks sideways on the way out. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1pooh4u Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 If his seat goes to the gop it really doesn’t matter because he was just a cock block for the democrats anyway 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naraku360 Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Raptorpat said: https://twitter.com/Sen_JoeManchin/status/1722698734910210420?s=20 "Ask not what the country can do for you. Ask what you can do for your country. And I said, 'Can I screw it over as much as possible in exchange for copious amounts of money?' and my answer was, 'Why yes, I do believe I can. It would be my honor.' " Edited November 9, 2023 by naraku360 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raptorpat Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 1 hour ago, scoobdog said: The end result of him leaving was inevitable no matter what he did, he just didn't make it easier on himself or his caucus by going about it the way he did. I think he genuinely believed he had to play that role to win and only now decided it wouldn't work. But either way I wonder if his voting activity changes at all now that he's not formally constrained by that factor anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwimOdin Posted November 9, 2023 Author Share Posted November 9, 2023 10 minutes ago, Raptorpat said: I think he genuinely believed he had to play that role to win and only now decided it wouldn't work. But either way I wonder if his voting activity changes at all now that he's not formally constrained by that factor anymore. That’s a comforting thought… 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobdog Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 55 minutes ago, Raptorpat said: I think he genuinely believed he had to play that role to win and only now decided it wouldn't work. But either way I wonder if his voting activity changes at all now that he's not formally constrained by that factor anymore. To an extent, but he also did not hide the fact that he was protecting his coal interests and that did significant damage to his reputation. If anything, he's going to be more nakedly protective of his interests. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seight Posted November 10, 2023 Share Posted November 10, 2023 6 hours ago, SwimOdin said: https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2023/11/09/politics/joe-manchin-wont-run-for-reelection/index.html Manchin, that is. Not sure how to feel about this one. I’ve never been a fan of his, but in the vacuum of him leaving the senate, it’s probably going to go to a republican. To be honest, there have been times where it felt like it already had when he's been in office. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobdog Posted November 10, 2023 Share Posted November 10, 2023 4 hours ago, Seight said: To be honest, there have been times where it felt like it already had when he's been in office. The best part is he wants to tour the country looking for moderates who would conceivably be the Republicans left behind by Trump. Hope he’s stocked up on wintergreen mints. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwimOdin Posted November 11, 2023 Author Share Posted November 11, 2023 This dude better not be planning a presidential run… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icarus27k Posted November 11, 2023 Share Posted November 11, 2023 I didn't fall for the unspecified Joe thing in the title. But I greatly appreciate the attempt. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
André Toulon Posted November 11, 2023 Share Posted November 11, 2023 9 minutes ago, Icarus27k said: I didn't fall for the unspecified Joe thing in the title. But I greatly appreciate the attempt. 😔I did 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naraku360 Posted November 11, 2023 Share Posted November 11, 2023 1 hour ago, Icarus27k said: I didn't fall for the unspecified Joe thing in the title. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lupin_bebop Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 Hmmm.......Interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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