Distinct Lunatic Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackiemarie90 Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 I honestly don’t know and I’m not going stress about it until it is confirmed. Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Distinct Lunatic Posted January 19, 2020 Author Share Posted January 19, 2020 1 minute ago, jackiemarie90 said: I honestly don’t know and I’m not going stress about it until it is confirmed. Lol are you the one wanting the probing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackiemarie90 Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 2 minutes ago, Fortnite Guy Keanu Reeves said: are you the one wanting the probing? Not right away, but I'm open to the idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Distinct Lunatic Posted January 19, 2020 Author Share Posted January 19, 2020 1 minute ago, jackiemarie90 said: Not right away, but I'm open to the idea. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lupin_bebop Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 Meh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
André Toulon Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 By which definition.....I am leading towards my answer being yes regardless though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swimmod_Luna Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 By "aliens" do u just mean any intelligent life outside of Earth, or do u mean little green men that come down in UFOs to probe people? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Distinct Lunatic Posted January 19, 2020 Author Share Posted January 19, 2020 1 hour ago, Athena 92 said: By "aliens" do u just mean any intelligent life outside of Earth, or do u mean little green men that come down in UFOs to probe people? No, I mean the people that swim across the rio grande to face down the final boss el presidente Trump Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Distinct Lunatic Posted January 19, 2020 Author Share Posted January 19, 2020 Realistically I'd say there's likely aliens out there, intelligent life even. That said though probably nowhere close to us, and I find it unlikely that we've been visited by them, but who knows. One very real possibility is maybe at this specific moment in time there are no other intelligent lifeforms. The universe is well over 13 billion years old, and humans have existed for only around 100k-200k of that time, and even then it was less than a hundred years ago we've been able to go to space and really study the shit out there. So it simply could be a case where intelligent life out there was missed by a million years or so, or even a few 10k years. Hell, it's possible that there could be intelligent life on planets even 1000 light years around us (that essentially being our neighborhood in the galaxy) but it could just be a case where they need another hundred years before they're capable of hearing us and sending signals back. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Distinct Lunatic Posted January 19, 2020 Author Share Posted January 19, 2020 1 minute ago, Quackers said: Secure our atmosphere we'll build a wall around the planet and make Mexico pay for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seight Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 I believe in whatever gets us more Action Bronson Watches Ancient Aliens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilosipherStoned Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 (edited) I believe that life outside of this planet, solar system, galaxy..local area group etc. whatever is a good possibility, but most ufo's, and alien abduction peeps are about as credible as flat earthers to me. There are intriguing stories out there for sure, but they all lack common denominators for the most part and always leave me skeptical.. I just watched a video on this supposed alien craft.. and as someone who's worked with military aerial camera payloads I agree with these guys at metabunk it's probably just a hot air balloon or something flying through the air. https://www.metabunk.org/threads/aguadilla-infrared-footage-of-ufos-hot-air-wedding-lanterns.8952/ UFO communities just get so ecstatic every time some grainy unanalyzable footage gets circulated.. Edited January 20, 2020 by PhilosipherStoned 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAC Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 Yes, there is no way we are the only ones out there with even our estimates of the size of the universe. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapinator_X Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 Probably, but I think they’d be galaxies away and very few of them, if any, would have the technology to possibly travel from one galaxy to another. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwimModSponges Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 Alien life exists, 100%. Alien life existed on mars, 90% Alien life still exists on mars, 80%. Scientists are currently estimating we will find alien life within the next 20 years or so. Microbes are super resilient, we've come to find that the protein strands which preclude more complex molecules self-establish pretty easy, and we've found quite a few earth-like planets recently. Alien microbial life is almost certainly beneath the surface of mars, probably elsewhere in our solar system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaiusIuliusCaesar Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 Badly worded question, do I believe that aliens exist somewhere in the universe? yes obviously. That's an uncontroversial assumption. Do I believe that they have visited earth at any point in its existence? I have no idea, maybe but there is no evidence of it and its not terribly relevant unless we some day find evidence of it. Do I believe that aliens control or work with the government to stimulate the prostates of people from the mid and southwestern us? No, fuck no. That's a very strange psycho-sexual obsession people have. I would advocate that people who have this fixation buy a sex toy and experiment with themselves, that may solve the problem. To add, the US military and intelligence apparatus made a concerted effort to disseminate false stories about aliens to cover up their development and use of spy technology used to illegally surveil the former soviet union and its allies during the cold war. The Roswell debris was one such case. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katt_goddess Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 To think that humans are the only possible life in the entirety of this universe is ridiculous. This isn't the only planet that falls within what is considered the habitable zone, new potentials are discovered all the time as our ability to scan and interpret the data received gets better. And that's just zones suitable for carbon-based lifeforms. When you consider that we have organisms that thrive in volcanic vents and gross spiders in Antarctica, things get a little more exciting. Actually visiting here is suspect though. This solar system isn't on the galactic plane [ we are slightly above the plane and at an angle ] and we aren't part of the nearest spiral. We are also surrounded by an Oort cloud which I sometimes wonder if it doesn't insulate some of our radio waves from traveling outwards. So traveling here would be a pain in the ass and entirely out of the way of any potential routes. To get here, they'd have to bring their own fuel to make the round trip because they wouldn't know if there was anything here that would work as fuel for the trip back. It's basically the same problem we have just sending anyone to Mars - it's a 2 year trip there with no gas stations along the way. Our only bonus in that is that we know most of the composition of Mars at least. An outer system visitor wouldn't know for sure what they might be able to use here. Summary - Earth is the Deliverance of planets and no one really would visit here willingly. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Distinct Lunatic Posted January 21, 2020 Author Share Posted January 21, 2020 21 minutes ago, katt_goddess said: To think that humans are the only possible life in the entirety of this universe is ridiculous. This isn't the only planet that falls within what is considered the habitable zone, new potentials are discovered all the time as our ability to scan and interpret the data received gets better. And that's just zones suitable for carbon-based lifeforms. When you consider that we have organisms that thrive in volcanic vents and gross spiders in Antarctica, things get a little more exciting. Actually visiting here is suspect though. This solar system isn't on the galactic plane [ we are slightly above the plane and at an angle ] and we aren't part of the nearest spiral. We are also surrounded by an Oort cloud which I sometimes wonder if it doesn't insulate some of our radio waves from traveling outwards. So traveling here would be a pain in the ass and entirely out of the way of any potential routes. To get here, they'd have to bring their own fuel to make the round trip because they wouldn't know if there was anything here that would work as fuel for the trip back. It's basically the same problem we have just sending anyone to Mars - it's a 2 year trip there with no gas stations along the way. Our only bonus in that is that we know most of the composition of Mars at least. An outer system visitor wouldn't know for sure what they might be able to use here. Summary - Earth is the Deliverance of planets and no one really would visit here willingly. There's this one guy I used to work with for several months before he eventually went to a different building, the guy being a major, major, by the books Christian. Like, in the first conversation I had with the guy he came on strong with that stuff "The way I see it ___, is that some people call themselves Christian but say that they only believe in part of the bible, that's not the way I see it. Either you believe in the whole thing or you don't believe in it at all, and that's me. I believe in every last word of it." And I'm just thinking 'who the fuck are you again?'. Him being the type of person who lets the bible decide everything they believe in, and if it doesn't say anything about something then it doesn't exist or it shouldn't be supported. A famous line of his being "the bible says nothing of that" or that it says you should never do *insert whatever shit he's trying to make a point of*. Hell, I was once telling him a story about my sis who co-signed on a car with someone else and that person fucked her over, him going on with "that's the thing, you should never co-sign. Even if you were my son ___ I wouldn't do that for you" him then following up with "the bible even says that you should never co-sign" and I'm just like . . . . Also apparently he doesn't believe in ghosts, saying the bible says nothing of them, even though there's the holy spirit who used to be known as the holy ghost. Now that I laid down the groundwork on the kind of guy this person is; there was one time me, him, and two other guys of mine were sitting in our break room. This was around the time of that second new Jurassic World movie, and one of them made a comment about the movie. The religious guy was then all ". . . you know, I don't believe that dinosaurs ever existed." The other guy looking at him dumbfounded and said "You know they have fossils and stuff right?" to which Mr Christ responds with "Yeah, but that could be any animal." Him adding onto that with "Carbon dating? Who thinks up these things" followed by his famous line of "the bible says nothing about ____ (dinosaurs in this case)" and that the world is only 5000 years old. And as far as aliens goes he doesn't see how that could even be possible, bringing up the creation of the world being in only 7 days, and how the Earth is at the center of everything. Him also not believing in evolution at all, and again sees no way aliens could exist. When it comes to this guy, I don't think he's mentally there. He's like 66 and talked about how back in the day everyone was doing drugs (him included) and mentioned how he was always in huge orgies. So the way I see it, him being single (by choice apparently), and in his 60's, and a major, major hoarder, I see that as why he makes god and religion everything that defines him now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lytbryt Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 Yeah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lupin_bebop Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 2 hours ago, katt_goddess said: Summary - Earth is the Deliverance of planets and no one really would visit here willingly. I have never a truer statement about this place before. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaiusIuliusCaesar Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 2 hours ago, katt_goddess said: To think that humans are the only possible life in the entirety of this universe is ridiculous. This isn't the only planet that falls within what is considered the habitable zone, new potentials are discovered all the time as our ability to scan and interpret the data received gets better. And that's just zones suitable for carbon-based lifeforms. When you consider that we have organisms that thrive in volcanic vents and gross spiders in Antarctica, things get a little more exciting. Actually visiting here is suspect though. This solar system isn't on the galactic plane [ we are slightly above the plane and at an angle ] and we aren't part of the nearest spiral. We are also surrounded by an Oort cloud which I sometimes wonder if it doesn't insulate some of our radio waves from traveling outwards. So traveling here would be a pain in the ass and entirely out of the way of any potential routes. To get here, they'd have to bring their own fuel to make the round trip because they wouldn't know if there was anything here that would work as fuel for the trip back. It's basically the same problem we have just sending anyone to Mars - it's a 2 year trip there with no gas stations along the way. Our only bonus in that is that we know most of the composition of Mars at least. An outer system visitor wouldn't know for sure what they might be able to use here. Summary - Earth is the Deliverance of planets and no one really would visit here willingly. I agree with most of that but we can tell what the composition of any given star system from an elemental standpoint with our current technology using light spectra. Any civilization capable of getting here would definitely know if we have any of the unobtanium they use to exceed light speed here. Of course we have no reason to believe there is such a thing, and we probably are limited by the slight speed barrier, therefore its very possible all civilizations are isolated by space time, so far away from each other that by the time a message was received the sender could have been extinct for millions of years. And by the time we colonize out that far we won't have a galaxy full of humans, we'll have a galaxy full of aliens that descended from humans. btw if you have an interest in this there is a pretty awesome youtube channel I would recommend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwimModSponges Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 1 hour ago, Lytbryt said: Yeah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lytbryt Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 56 minutes ago, GaiusIuliusCaesar said: I agree with most of that but we can tell what the composition of any given star system from an elemental standpoint with our current technology using light spectra. Any civilization capable of getting here would definitely know if we have any of the unobtanium they use to exceed light speed here. Of course we have no reason to believe there is such a thing, and we probably are limited by the slight speed barrier, therefore its very possible all civilizations are isolated by space time, so far away from each other that by the time a message was received the sender could have been extinct for millions of years. And by the time we colonize out that far we won't have a galaxy full of humans, we'll have a galaxy full of aliens that descended from humans. btw if you have an interest in this there is a pretty awesome youtube channel I would recommend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lytbryt Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 52 minutes ago, SwimModSponges said: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katt_goddess Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 18 hours ago, GaiusIuliusCaesar said: I agree with most of that but we can tell what the composition of any given star system from an elemental standpoint with our current technology using light spectra. Any civilization capable of getting here would definitely know if we have any of the unobtanium they use to exceed light speed here. Of course we have no reason to believe there is such a thing, and we probably are limited by the slight speed barrier, therefore its very possible all civilizations are isolated by space time, so far away from each other that by the time a message was received the sender could have been extinct for millions of years. And by the time we colonize out that far we won't have a galaxy full of humans, we'll have a galaxy full of aliens that descended from humans. Yes and no. While I did consider light spectra analysis [ at least from the human side of current knowledge ] , there are for us still elements that tend to 'share' the same wavelength. We aren't as fine tuned in things as we'd need to be in order to travel safely somewhere else. I'm not going to assume that another civilization would be stuck on the exact same problem but it is still a problem. It would be like 'knowing' a place is rich in oxygen and going there only to find out it's liquid oxygen that's perpetually on fire or something. <--- weird and stupid example but it's just an example. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lasty Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 (edited) 22 hours ago, SwimModSponges said: Alien life exists, 100%. Alien life existed on mars, 90% Alien life still exists on mars, 80%. Scientists are currently estimating we will find alien life within the next 20 years or so. Microbes are super resilient, we've come to find that the protein strands which preclude more complex molecules self-establish pretty easy, and we've found quite a few earth-like planets recently. Alien microbial life is almost certainly beneath the surface of mars, probably elsewhere in our solar system. Twenty bucks says there's fish in the various sub-terranian moon oceans in our solar system. Another five says they're good to cook and eat. Edited January 21, 2020 by Lasty 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaiusIuliusCaesar Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, katt_goddess said: Yes and no. While I did consider light spectra analysis [ at least from the human side of current knowledge ] , there are for us still elements that tend to 'share' the same wavelength. We aren't as fine tuned in things as we'd need to be in order to travel safely somewhere else. I'm not going to assume that another civilization would be stuck on the exact same problem but it is still a problem. It would be like 'knowing' a place is rich in oxygen and going there only to find out it's liquid oxygen that's perpetually on fire or something. <--- weird and stupid example but it's just an example. Again if they have enough technology to get here, converting the phase of an element shouldn't be a problem. Besides the most likely fuel source will probably be hydrogen to power a fusion based engine, and that's literally everywhere. Edited January 21, 2020 by GaiusIuliusCaesar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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