My Hero Academia returns with S4 on November 9, as everyone secretly expected.

[Blatch]

Attack on Titan reruns also return at 4:00 on that date, starting point unknown. Oh, and The Forge also starts then. Should be pretty hype. 😋

Edited October 25, 2019 by Blatch
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[Top Gun]

Block is gonna be lit af

[EmpressAngel]

It's the best early Christmas present of all.

[Jman]

It’s a good anchor for the block given what they have to work with, even if it’s another show that seems popular everywhere but Toonami.

[OwlChemist81]

Keep in mind the 3-Peat of the final episode of PRIMAL will be leading-into this. It wouldn't surprise me, however, if, beginning on November 16th, they start running Dragon Ball Super SOMEWHERE on the lineup from the beginning, either 9 PM or 10:30 PM (which theoretically would expand Toonami to 10:30). Alternatively, we've only got a few episodes left of Lupin so its reruns COULD go there.

But even if it doesn't last, we've got ONE week of Toonami with NO Dragon Ball shows!! And also, finally, an 11 PM Superheroes Hour!!!

 

Edited October 25, 2019 by OwlChemist81

[The1gairon]

Official.  DeMarco chose THAT particular Season 3 ep to start the reruns FOR A REASON, which means he knew this all along, for weeks.

Glad to see it at the front of the block now.  AND that it's gonna be a broadcast that's only a few weeks after Funimation's simulcast uploads!

 

Any bets on when DeMarco moves it to 3:30 AM again?

[The1gairon]

23 minutes ago, Top Gun said:

Block is gonna be lit af

MHA is no Dragonball Super, or even Kai, but we'll see how ratings fare.

[The1gairon]

5 minutes ago, OwlChemist81 said:

 

But even if it doesn't last, we've got ONE week of Toonami with NO Dragon Ball shows!! And also, finally, an 11 PM Superheroes Hour!!!

 

.... why only one week?

[OwlChemist81]

My speculation is it COULD return at 10:30 PM to replace PRIMAL on November 16th, but that's not all that likely. I think it would make more sense to run a Dragon Ball show at 9P outside of Toonami, then Bob's Burgers, then an hour of Family Guy leading-in to MHA.

[EmpressAngel]

10 minutes ago, Jman said:

It’s a good anchor for the block given what they have to work with, even if it’s another show that seems popular everywhere but Toonami.

Does all that nonstop cynicism about every single decision on the block ever just get exhausting?

[DangerMouse]

Boom, there it is.

[Top Gun]

1 hour ago, elfie said:

MHA is no Dragonball Super, or even Kai, but we'll see how ratings fare.

I don't give a shit about numbers that mean absolutely nothing in 2019, I just want good animu. And we have a bunch of good animu now.

[Daos]

Whoa whoa they're letting them air MHA only a month behind the sub? That's pretty good.

Deathslotting the final half of S3 sure makes even less sense now though.

[PokeNirvash]

Just as my horoscope predicted.

[AnimationFan14]

[StarPanda]

Super awesome 

[Ginguy]

I'll suppress my general instinct to lazily trall and go with a generalized "cool, good news" instead.

Now I'm kind of curious about what "the Forge" is and when we might expect the Blade Runner series, which I'm very much looking forward to.

 

Eh, who am I kidding....

Spoiler

 

[ben0119]

Now crisis is averted and everyone can stop panicking until people find the next thing to panic over.

I still don't understand the reason for death-slotting season 3.  At the time it was rumored and speculated that it was a political move pettiness after Funimation made that deal with Hulu.  But then Toonami and Funimation went all in on Fire Force, so that seemed to debunk that.

Of course when people complained about the death-slotting, DeMarco said WELL YOU SHOULD HAVE WATCHED IT LOL, even though WE WERE GOD DAMN IT.  Even the show was doing well where it was, and despite death-slotting, it beat most of the shows before it.

I could see the idea that a lot of people had seen the episodes by then, but again, it was doing well, and the block is supposed to be for people who watch the shows here, and Toonami supposedly isn't supposed to care how old or widely seen shows are so long as there is sufficient demand and ratings.

It doesn't make any sense!

But at least the show is back with episodes soon after their debut, and in a good timeslot!

[ben0119]

On 10/25/2019 at 12:20 PM, elfie said:

MHA is no Dragonball Super, or even Kai, but we'll see how ratings fare.

He's talking about the quality of the block.  Fuck the ratings.

[brianycpht]

3 hours ago, ben0119 said:

Now crisis is averted and everyone can stop panicking until people find the next thing to panic over.

I still don't understand the reason for death-slotting season 3.  At the time it was rumored and speculated that it was a political move pettiness after Funimation made that deal with Hulu.  But then Toonami and Funimation went all in on Fire Force, so that seemed to debunk that.

Of course when people complained about the death-slotting, DeMarco said WELL YOU SHOULD HAVE WATCHED IT LOL, even though WE WERE GOD DAMN IT.  Even the show was doing well where it was, and despite death-slotting, it beat most of the shows before it.

I could see the idea that a lot of people had seen the episodes by then, but again, it was doing well, and the block is supposed to be for people who watch the shows here, and Toonami supposedly isn't supposed to care how old or widely seen shows are so long as there is sufficient demand and ratings.

It doesn't make any sense!

But at least the show is back with episodes soon after their debut, and in a good timeslot!

What’s funny is that this was planned as far back as August when they decided where to start the season 3 reruns. To me, moving it to the back (and at 10:30) at first seemed more of a way to get it out of the way while the awkward 2 month gap between seasons happened. 
 

Originally, the plan was to probably to keep it at 10:30 until season 3 ended, then do the reruns at 4 while cutting the 10:30 slot. The intention was always to get the show out of the way of the other shows to stop multiple schedule shuffles and because they probably didn’t know exactly when they could get the dub on air. 
 

But it probably didn’t do what a 10:30 show should and they moved it to the other “out of the way slot”. Hence the “Enough people didn’t watch it where it was” explanation and also the “I’m sure it’ll move back up again at some point”. They always knew they were going to do this. 

What I’ll never understand is why they can never be upfront about their plans until the last minute. It would e cleared up a lot of confusion 

[The1gairon]

7 hours ago, brianycpht said:

What I’ll never understand is why they can never be upfront about their plans until the last minute. It would e cleared up a lot of confusion 

Because they also have to be a company with an overhead that sets policies and rules they need to follow, with NDAs.

[brianycpht]

2 hours ago, elfie said:

Because they also have to be a company with an overhead that sets policies and rules they need to follow, with NDAs.

I get that. But what I can’t stand, and I feel like I can say this here without getting blasted, is that Funimation purposely pulls this crap to protect their streaming service. They won’t let Toonami announce something until a few weeks after it starts. I understand if Toonami has to wait a few weeks, but allow the viewer to make an informed choice. I started Fire Force and Dr. Stone on FN only for them to be the blocks next show. 

[PokeNirvash]

13 hours ago, ben0119 said:

Of course when people complained about the death-slotting, DeMarco said WELL YOU SHOULD HAVE WATCHED IT LOL, even though WE WERE GOD DAMN IT.  Even the show was doing well where it was, and despite death-slotting, it beat most of the shows before it.

In case you haven't figured it out by now, Demarco isn't exactly the smartest man. 😏

[The1gairon]

You do realize VIZ media and Sentai do the same thing to Toonami too? .... except for when they announced Boruto on the block months ahead.

[brianycpht]

1 hour ago, elfie said:

You do realize VIZ media and Sentai do the same thing to Toonami too? .... except for when they announced Boruto on the block months ahead.

Yeah and it needs to stop if it’s on their end. A few months should be standard but at least they aren’t doing it to promote their own platform 

Edited October 27, 2019 by brianycpht

[ben0119]

On 10/27/2019 at 2:26 AM, brianycpht said:

What’s funny is that this was planned as far back as August when they decided where to start the season 3 reruns. To me, moving it to the back (and at 10:30) at first seemed more of a way to get it out of the way while the awkward 2 month gap between seasons happened. 
 

Originally, the plan was to probably to keep it at 10:30 until season 3 ended, then do the reruns at 4 while cutting the 10:30 slot. The intention was always to get the show out of the way of the other shows to stop multiple schedule shuffles and because they probably didn’t know exactly when they could get the dub on air. 
 

But it probably didn’t do what a 10:30 show should and they moved it to the other “out of the way slot”. Hence the “Enough people didn’t watch it where it was” explanation and also the “I’m sure it’ll move back up again at some point”. They always knew they were going to do this. 

What I’ll never understand is why they can never be upfront about their plans until the last minute. It would e cleared up a lot of confusion 

But what standards did it need to meet?  I don't follow the ratings, because in general I don't care about ratings so long as they're good enough that the thing I'm watching doesn't get canceled.  Even then, it's not like my desire for a show to stay on the air matters if not enough mystical Nielsen viewers watch it.  I also don't care for the discourse around ratings, and the constant chicken little-ing and trying to turn it into some sort of sport competition.  But from what I thought I did hear, MHA was doing pretty good?  True, moving it all the way to the back would be less disruptive than moving it elsewhere and having to shuffle things around, but it still makes them look like asses when even after death-slotting it continues to beat nearly everything else.  They should have just left it alone if they didn't want to move it somewhere else, because that was not warranted.

It's either the incompetence of their negotiations that they don't have anything ironed out well ahead of time, as they should, to where they can announce sooner, or Demarco's love of "surprises," forgetting how that fucks with promotion, advertising, and audience planning and expectations.

17 hours ago, brianycpht said:

I get that. But what I can’t stand, and I feel like I can say this here without getting blasted, is that Funimation purposely pulls this crap to protect their streaming service. They won’t let Toonami announce something until a few weeks after it starts. I understand if Toonami has to wait a few weeks, but allow the viewer to make an informed choice. I started Fire Force and Dr. Stone on FN only for them to be the blocks next show. 

 

14 hours ago, brianycpht said:

Yeah and it needs to stop if it’s on their end. A few months should be standard but at least they aren’t doing it to promote their own platform 

As you said, you started watching shows elsewhere because they didn't get announced for Toonami.  But, Funimation, Sentai, Viz... the common denominator here is Toonami.  I doubt the anime companies would all be making the deals that way on their end, especially when the others have no reason to do so.  So it's like I said.  Toonami is too incompetent to get the deals done fast enough to announce sooner.  And Demarco has mentioned shows being negotiated down to the last minute they need something to air before.  He also mentioned the deals on 2 shows he said were coming fell through.  Which was layered incompetence.  That he couldn't keep the deals together, and promised something before he actually could.  And that whole thing of him loving surprises probably also comes into play.  And I could be remembering wrong, but I thought that whenever ASA show announcements were made, they were usually well ahead of time, not at the last minute.  So I would not blame Funimation or any of the other companies for this.

[brianycpht]

4 hours ago, ben0119 said:

But what standards did it need to meet?  I don't follow the ratings, because in general I don't care about ratings so long as they're good enough that the thing I'm watching doesn't get canceled.  Even then, it's not like my desire for a show to stay on the air matters if not enough mystical Nielsen viewers watch it.  I also don't care for the discourse around ratings, and the constant chicken little-ing and trying to turn it into some sort of sport competition.  But from what I thought I did hear, MHA was doing pretty good?  True, moving it all the way to the back would be less disruptive than moving it elsewhere and having to shuffle things around, but it still makes them look like asses when even after death-slotting it continues to beat nearly everything else.  They should have just left it alone if they didn't want to move it somewhere else, because that was not warranted.

It's either the incompetence of their negotiations that they don't have anything ironed out well ahead of time, as they should, to where they can announce sooner, or Demarco's love of "surprises," forgetting how that fucks with promotion, advertising, and audience planning and expectations.

 

As you said, you started watching shows elsewhere because they didn't get announced for Toonami.  But, Funimation, Sentai, Viz... the common denominator here is Toonami.  I doubt the anime companies would all be making the deals that way on their end, especially when the others have no reason to do so.  So it's like I said.  Toonami is too incompetent to get the deals done fast enough to announce sooner.  And Demarco has mentioned shows being negotiated down to the last minute they need something to air before.  He also mentioned the deals on 2 shows he said were coming fell through.  Which was layered incompetence.  That he couldn't keep the deals together, and promised something before he actually could.  And that whole thing of him loving surprises probably also comes into play.  And I could be remembering wrong, but I thought that whenever ASA show announcements were made, they were usually well ahead of time, not at the last minute.  So I would not blame Funimation or any of the other companies for this.

That’s what I don’t get, even things that seem to have been negotiated ahead of time don’t get announced until the last minute unless it’s at a con. We have done confirmation of this when it Epcar leaked the Lupin news a month before Momocon where they intended to announce it. Some of these shows that just started in Japan I get needing some extra clearance but still I don’t see why this stuff isn’t worked out with Funimation while a show is being licensed.

 

”Hey Toonami we are getting this show you might be into this is the concept..interested in airing it?”
 

I think part of the answer is the Japanese side AND then wanting to actually watch an episode or 2 before getting it.

 

ASA did announce things months ahead of time. Upfront would lay out acquisitions for the rest of the year.  But of course we didn’t have simuldubs so they had the benefit of having access to the whole show before buying it