The1gairon Posted June 28, 2019 Author Share Posted June 28, 2019 If Toonami no longer has a connection with the audience, why the FUCK is it still going!??!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokeNirvash Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 Make it the week after the movie tie-in episode, and I'd be inclined to agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountFrylock Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, PokeNirvash said: I agree, there does seem to be more to this than just "you weren't watching it when it started the block so we're forcing it to the end, how 'bout that!?". Something tells me the schedule will get reshuffled and MHA will get moved up to a better slot before the day it's set to happen. Just like when JoJo got demoted to 3AM only for that decision to be revoked less than a week after it was announced. remember when they said the ratings for One piece were fine and not to worry? i wouldn't trust anything demarco says 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The1gairon Posted June 28, 2019 Author Share Posted June 28, 2019 Just now, Daos said: Well also, they seriously think Lupin, Gundam and Foodwars will do better? I mean... really. Lupin got beaten by 4 shows after it and had the lowest ratings of the night just the other week..... so yeah. They know by now that nothing beats Dragonball Super (partly because they forced it to). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OwlChemist81 Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 What they should do is move those DBZ Kai reruns to 3:30 and expand the block from 10:30-4. Start with DBS, then double R&M, then double FG, then DBS, then AOT, THEN MHA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The1gairon Posted June 28, 2019 Author Share Posted June 28, 2019 (edited) Dragonball Super is almost over too! It's nearing the final fight, which admittedly does last for several episodes but that isn't a good long-term business decision for them to make. It will end soon. What then? Will the block get stuck with 250K ratings for ALL the shows, which means the whole block will be canceled again?? MHA moving to 3:30 AM-- I am on the belief that that is THE STUPIDEST decision they ever made. I said in 2012 that I was over complaining like this by now, and that if the block ever ends once more i will be an adult and get over it, but THIS... I never SAW ... THIS COMING... Edited June 28, 2019 by elfie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daos Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 (edited) That's why Toonami is done as soon as Super finishes airing. Edited June 28, 2019 by Daos 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountFrylock Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 3 minutes ago, elfie said: They know by now that nothing beats Dragonball Super (partly because they forced it to). it makes me think the only people whose ratings are being counted(with these boxes)are nostalgia fanboys who hate all anime but make an exception for dragon ball Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The1gairon Posted June 28, 2019 Author Share Posted June 28, 2019 Just now, Daos said: That's why Toonami is done as soon as Super finishes airing. I never believed i would ever agree with that. But here we are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The1gairon Posted June 28, 2019 Author Share Posted June 28, 2019 Just now, CountFrylock said: it makes me think the only people whose ratings are being counted(with these boxes)are nostalgia fanboys who hate all anime but make an exception for dragon ball So much for Adult Swim's Dragonball Block. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountFrylock Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 Just now, elfie said: So much for Adult Swim's Dragonball Block. because let's be honest if all of us were counted why would there be such a major drop after DBS Ends? are we to believe that most of us hate everything that isn't dragon ball? no i refuse to believe that i just believe the people whose ratings are counted don't like toonami but do like Dragon ball 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OwlChemist81 Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 7 minutes ago, elfie said: i can see it being moved up again. .... during the last ep of Season 3. Oh God, I haven't even seen the shitstorm on Twitter yet... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The1gairon Posted June 28, 2019 Author Share Posted June 28, 2019 This block is worthless. What are we even doing here? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountFrylock Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 does demarco know that the fans think he's an asshole of the highest level when he blames them for everything? no don't pin this on us....the shoddy ratings system thinks i don't exist 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmpressAngel Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, CountFrylock said: does demarco know that the fans think he's an asshole of the highest level when he blames them for everything? Anyways, this is horse shit. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountFrylock Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 they are removing MHA and this is just them trying to pretend that's not the case and we just didn't watch it two words demarco Nielsen Boxes....i watched this every week and your gonna tell me i didn't? nice try ass hat 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The1gairon Posted June 28, 2019 Author Share Posted June 28, 2019 There's only one remaining reason why I would watch Toonami at this point. They air exclusive dubs that at the time you can't hear anywhere else before it goes up online or on home video, such is the case with these new episodes of AoT, The Promised Neverland, and Lupin III Part 5. MHA's dub can be watched legally in three totally different services, which I guess is one reason why they believe it's a good idea to move it this far into the night, and a reaosn I WISH DeMarco had cited on ask.fm instead of "ITTHS YOOOOUR FAULT!!!". Food Wars' dub for season 1 is available for home release, but I already seen the anime. So admittedly, I will stick around, but this is one more strike closer for me to give up on Toonami like an ex lover. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The1gairon Posted June 28, 2019 Author Share Posted June 28, 2019 (edited) SO. A SUPERHERO anime... in an age where an entire superhero movie series has been breaking box office records and changing the face of cinema for an entire decade .... can't even be popular. https://www.funimation.com/shows/my-hero-academia/ https://vrv.co/series/G6NQ5DWZ6/My-Hero-Academia https://www.hulu.com/series/my-hero-academia-36e318dc-3daf-47fb-8219-9e3cb5cd28f2 go there instead. Edited June 28, 2019 by elfie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokeNirvash Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 Nope. I started MHA on Toonami, and I'm finishing it on Toonami, so you can take your legal streaming links and shove them. 😤 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3ngag3 Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 DeMarco is saying on Twitter that the decision to move MHA did not come from him, but the network superiors. I don't think he would willingly have moved the show otherwise. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daos Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 1 minute ago, 3ngag3 said: DeMarco is saying on Twitter that the decision to move MHA did not come from him, but the network superiors. I don't think he would willingly have moved the show otherwise. They panicked over last weeks ratings. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountFrylock Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 do ratings matter or not? they can't bounce between the two....Nielsen Ratings i guess are still king what's that? grandpa doesn't like MHA then death-slot it! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The1gairon Posted June 28, 2019 Author Share Posted June 28, 2019 "WASN'T OUR CALL". 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The1gairon Posted June 28, 2019 Author Share Posted June 28, 2019 18 minutes ago, 3ngag3 said: DeMarco is saying on Twitter that the decision to move MHA did not come from him, but the network superiors. I don't think he would willingly have moved the show otherwise. ... okay. that makes a TON more sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The1gairon Posted June 28, 2019 Author Share Posted June 28, 2019 17 minutes ago, Daos said: They panicked over last weeks ratings. maybe if they had moved MHA to JUST AFTER Dragonball Super all of this wouldn't have happened. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The1gairon Posted June 28, 2019 Author Share Posted June 28, 2019 15 minutes ago, CountFrylock said: do ratings matter or not? they can't bounce between the two....Nielsen Ratings i guess are still king what's that? grandpa doesn't like MHA then death-slot it! THANK YOU! This is I think one of the most frustrating things about taking all this in. IT'S TOO CONFUSING since it contradicts everything we thought was true! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountFrylock Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 1 minute ago, elfie said: THANK YOU! This is I think one of the most frustrating things about taking all this in. IT'S TOO CONFUSING since it contradicts everything we thought was true! because like i keep saying none of us are counted in these bullshit ratings you ever seen a nielsen box? i sure as hell haven't 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The1gairon Posted June 28, 2019 Author Share Posted June 28, 2019 I been at this for two hours. I need to get on doing something else right now. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountFrylock Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 8 minutes ago, elfie said: I been at this for two hours. I need to get on doing something else right now. same....last thing I'll say is i hope this doesn't mean MHA is gone forever from Toonami and this is just them being weird(not an actual departure like one piece) i can't see myself subbing to a subscription service to continue watching MHA 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helpme Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 I'm glad I just dvr this stuff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bnmjy Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 Will Totally Spies! replace My Hero Academia? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blatch Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 2 hours ago, PokeNirvash said: And with that, I break out the big guns. I also don't like this thread, but for a different reason: most people in it (but not you) have become the most annoying, Flanderized versions of themselves. It's like I'm reading nothing new. And then you have their brooding cynicism feeling akin to a death cult, which is something I try to avoid. If you watch MHA and don't like the change, DVR it if you can. And do vocally complain, but only in a space where DeMarco and company can hear it. At least the kerfuffle with JoJo's from a little while ago did prove that casual Toonami fans have some say in how the block is handled. I'd much rather we try to work it instead of yelling about death and destruction in an echo chamber. Additionally, while I wish we could stop talking about the ratings, there is merit to discussion if things like this happen. But we should also start enjoying things and not trashing show choices because they're too old. I'm enjoying Lupin Part V so far and want to give Food Wars a try, and I think others should be trying to follow suit. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katt_goddess Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 1 hour ago, CountFrylock said: I Expected ratings to go down when we all say it with me rely on channel surfing grandpa's who were randomly selected by big corporate entities to determine ratings I've always been very careful to ensure that my ratings go towards Toonami programing, even that Gundam crap [ although it's usually muted but I don't think they can tell that ] . The tv's sleep mode is set to activate when Toonami is over so the tv is on even if I'm 'out' . I was really hoping to be able to watch that series to it's conclusion at a decent hour on the tv. Now it looks like it'll get added to the same internet list that HunterxHunter is currently hanging out on. That's not good business if you want people to watch your programing. Plus, MHA is a solid show as a lead in to the night between the [ as ] standards and the 'harder' anime that happens later in the evening. Punting it to the back seems like it's being punished because Gundam is airing late or something. A solid schedule needs it's anchors to keep the audience in place. Moving things all over any time someone has a head cold does not an anchor make. Saturday ratings may not be the greatest of the great but if you skunk the core ratings that are always there, you risk losing your spot in the rankings, period. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helpme Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 11 minutes ago, Blatch said: have become the most annoying, Flanderized versions of themselves. It's like I'm reading nothing new. And then you have their brooding cynicism feeling akin to a death cult elfie will never change its the reason why no one takes him seriously 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountFrylock Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 someone on toonzone made this comment " Just a reminder that MHA always consistently has the second highest ratings on the block. The higher standards for more expensive shows theory still seems most plausible, but some things don't make sense. None of the other shows can possibly perform like MHA did and them getting precedence just because Toonami has lower ratings standards for those shows doesn't make much sense. Sponsors aren't going to pay as much for a deathslot advertising spot. I'd think that a MHA in the 12:30 spot or earlier would get them more advertiser money than Lupin in the same spot. I thought making money was the name of the game. Deathslotting a show because it doesn't make a certain benchmark makes no sense when it consistently gets more viewers than every show on the lineup not named Dragonball. Nothing makes sense about this." 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmpressAngel Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 I kinda wonder if someone accidentally published the wrong schedule and is just too embarrassed to admit it, and in a couple of days they'll release a new one that makes more sense and just pretend they changed their mind. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daos Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 21 minutes ago, EmpressAngel said: I kinda wonder if someone accidentally published the wrong schedule and is just too embarrassed to admit it, and in a couple of days they'll release a new one that makes more sense and just pretend they changed their mind. They've done that before. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sketch Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 7 hours ago, CountFrylock said: like i said the rumor is that funimation and toonami were already butting-heads over the future and this could be toonami's way of putting their foot down on the matter I hate to believe such theories but once AoT ends and MHA season 3 ends the only FUNimation dubs could be DBS and Black Clover. Toei calls the shots with DBS and CR or maybe TV Tokyo will endure Clover stays but that may be it. FUNimation doesn’t tweet about Toonami broadcasts or mention them during panels like they used to. Aniplex, Viz and Sentai do exactly that. While I don’t think DeMarco would intentionally toss MHA to 3:30 to make a statement to FUNi. Whether it’s malicious or just practical, the programming department seems to see no reason to give MHA the limelight any longer. It’s probably not intended to be malicious or petty but it sure comes off that way. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sketch Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 40 minutes ago, EmpressAngel said: I kinda wonder if someone accidentally published the wrong schedule and is just too embarrassed to admit it, and in a couple of days they'll release a new one that makes more sense and just pretend they changed their mind. We can hope. If this schedule was the same but Lupin and MHA flipped, I would have believed it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daos Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 5 minutes ago, Sketch said: We can hope. If this schedule was the same but Lupin and MHA flipped, I would have believed it. Considering Lupin's very first episode was beaten by 4 shows after it and was the lowest show of the night.... this doesn't make much sense. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sketch Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 11 minutes ago, Daos said: Considering Lupin's very first episode was beaten by 4 shows after it and was the lowest show of the night.... this doesn't make much sense. No, no it doesn’t. i cannot fathom why this isn’t the schedule 11:00 - Dragon Ball Super 11:30 - My Hero Academia 12:00 - Attack on Titan 12:30 - SAO Alicization 1:00 - Food Wars 1:30 - Black Clover 2:00 - Lupin Part 5 2:30 - Boruto 3:00 - Shippuden 3:30 - Gundam: The Origin Or even have Lupin at 3am after its mediocre performance. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daos Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 "another theory is this is just damage control and they are losing MHA and S4 will be exclusive to Funimation NOW as well as Hulu" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sketch Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, Daos said: "another theory is this is just damage control and they are losing MHA and S4 will be exclusive to Funimation NOW as well as Hulu" It’s getting hard to doubt it. MHA season 4 will probably air but it’s looking like it won’t get to until maybe Fall of 2020. Given season 3 started airing on Toonami this year but it finished in Japan last Fall. Any chance of MHA season 4 airing on Toonami in time to replace DBS in October are pretty slim. So no need to keep it toward the front aside from trying not to piss off the fans and keeping a spot warm for something else. If it’s at 3:30 it can be shoved out of the spotlight and quietly phased out, taking the 3:30 slot with it when it ends in 8 weeks. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daos Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 8 hours ago, Daos said: I'm not even being pessimistic. Ratings are already in the tank with a schedule that makes sense. This makes no sense. Instead of Gate, Overlord, Re Zero, Slime, Shield Hero, Konosuba, Tanya, Goblin Slayer, OPM2, Mob2 we get.... More Lupin, More Jojo, more Gundam... and Foodwars. I've never seen a block decide to commit suicide before. Here's the bad thing, all those hit shows I listed Except for Gate and OPM..... Funimation or Funimation/Crunchyroll. If they're indeed done with Funimation Toonami is probably toast. Unless they can survive by airing 4 year old Sentai Food Shonen. So Sentai is the only one that can save Toonami now? So Gate and Made in Abyss? Time for Danmachi and Amagi Brilliant park! And Black Bullet. Umm.... Elven Lied? =P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The1gairon Posted June 28, 2019 Author Share Posted June 28, 2019 10 hours ago, bnmjy said: Will Totally Spies! replace My Hero Academia? Will GXP rerun instead?? By their logic that's better than MHA given how it was moved only THREE hours later in the night! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The1gairon Posted June 28, 2019 Author Share Posted June 28, 2019 6 hours ago, Daos said: They've done that before. Only several weeks ago too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The1gairon Posted June 28, 2019 Author Share Posted June 28, 2019 I hate irony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 (edited) The continuing issues with shows on Toonami being successful EVERYWHERE BUT TOONAMI (It bears repeating, after Avengers Endgame came out the one comic that got a boost was MHA. How does that even work?! “I sure loved that movie about Marvel’s heroes. Shame the comics are all dogshit, but this comic about a green haired dork suddenly finding himself being prepared to become the new Superman scratches that itch in a way the Agents of G.I.R.L never, EVER could”) are synonymous with the reasons behind the second anime boom. We no longer live in the early 2000’s where the only way most people could reliably watch anime was Toonami and Adult Swim Action, begging for the right show and that Standard and Practices wouldn’t dice it up too badly (these are the days you couldn’t say ‘shit’ on air). On Demand was a joke with the only real dedicated outlet being the now defunct ADV Anime Network (a network when someone suggested watching that instead of Adult Swim, a Toonzone mod very pointedly told the poster to “stop sucking ADV’s luscious cock”. Fuckwad). And that’s assuming Adult Swim wasn’t having fun at their viewer’s expense. (That really happened. And as much as I ironically enjoy the show about Zack Morris being trash, you bet your ass anime fans lost their shit when it was announced). The shit is literally everywhere, and it’s not hard to find it. You know what the first result is when you look up MHA on Google after the Wikipedia entry? Crunchyroll and FUNImation links to watch My Hero Academia! Full thing, legally, in HD with the right subscription, in both English and Japanese. This was an outright pipe dream in 2004. You know what probably happens? Someone may or may not have seen an episode of MHA on Toonami. If they like it, they can watch it wherever they damn well please, whenever they damn well please on their own time. But that doesn’t translate into ratings. And it leaves Toonami as little more than a giant advertisement for shows airing elsewhere unless they’re in that sweet pre/post sports spot time slot, which Super is. And this is also probably why JoJo only did middling on Toonami but absolutely crushed it on Netflix. Edited June 29, 2019 by Jman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OwlChemist81 Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 If I were arranging the Toonami schedule (with the 11 PM-4 AM constraint), here's what I'd do. Each hour would even have its own theme: Hour 1: the "Heavy Hitters" Hour: 11 PM - Dragon Ball Super 11:30 - Attack On Titan Hour 2: the "Slice-of-Life-y" Hour: 12 AM - MHA 12:30 - SAO-A Hour 3: the "Old Man Anime" Hour 1 AM - Lupin Part 5 1:30 - Gundam: The Origin Hour 4: the "Parody" Hour: 2 AM - Food Wars 2:30 - Black Clover Hour 5: the "Narutoverse" Hour: 3 AM - Boruto 3:30 - Shippuden 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The1gairon Posted June 28, 2019 Author Share Posted June 28, 2019 2 hours ago, OwlChemist81 said: If I were arranging the Toonami schedule (with the 11 PM-4 AM constraint), here's what I'd do. Each hour would even have its own theme: Hour 1: the "Heavy Hitters" Hour: 11 PM - Dragon Ball Super 11:30 - Attack On Titan Hour 2: the "Slice-of-Life-y" Hour: 12 AM - MHA 12:30 - SAO-A Hour 3: the "Old Man Anime" Hour 1 AM - Lupin Part 5 1:30 - Gundam: The Origin Hour 4: the "Parody" Hour: 2 AM - Food Wars 2:30 - Black Clover Hour 5: the "Narutoverse" Hour: 3 AM - Boruto 3:30 - Shippuden Clever. Of course some of those themes are extremely loose - ex., MHA is an action-superhero anime even though it does have SOL moments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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