Mini_ghost420 Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 when the owner isn't there they have problems getting the food right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuggstop Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 23 minutes ago, Mini_Ghost said: when the owner isn't there they have problems getting the food right I only saw the owner's a handful of times working there. They were latino. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mini_ghost420 Posted October 30, 2018 Author Share Posted October 30, 2018 Just now, fuggstop said: I only saw the owner's a handful of times working there. They were latino. were the other workers more on the ball when they were there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midnight Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 38 minutes ago, Mini_Ghost said: when the owner isn't there they have problems getting the food right That shows you that they know what they're doing, but are too sorry to do their damn job, while unsupervised. These are the same folks who are bitching about minimum wage being raised. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuggstop Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 28 minutes ago, Mini_Ghost said: were the other workers more on the ball when they were there? Of course They were a whole family and they were awesome Would help us cook...dropping fries and shit. So everyone was on their best behavior Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
André Toulon Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 (edited) 21 minutes ago, midnight said: That shows you that they know what they're doing, but are too sorry to do their damn job, while unsupervised. These are the same folks who are bitching about minimum wage being raised. Well it's kind of a chicken/egg thing....I'm not gonna do a bangup job for 8 bucks either  Edited October 30, 2018 by Buddyroe360 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuggstop Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 1 minute ago, Buddyroe360 said: Well it's kind of a chicken/egg thing....I'm not gonna do a bangup job for 8 bucks either  Lol Naive little 17 year old me worked her ass off. No wonder some were hating. Front counter i sanitized the ice cream machine, mopped the dining room, cleaned the table. I refused to clean the bathroom. I counted down the drawers at nite and helped balance shit. Fixed broken office shit like the printer and fax machine. Got promoted to full time morning shift back drive thru and given a raise after i graduated Lol oh boy them were the days! This nasty white girl who loved black dudes hated my guts...she was the Micky Ds Queen when i showed up. Well she somehow found out i was making more $ than her...well..lets say..they made us work different shifts after that so we never had to face each other lolol  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsar4 Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 1 hour ago, Mini_Ghost said: when the owner isn't there they have problems getting the food right They'll do better when they get $15/hr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mini_ghost420 Posted October 30, 2018 Author Share Posted October 30, 2018 47 minutes ago, midnight said: That shows you that they know what they're doing, but are too sorry to do their damn job, while unsupervised. These are the same folks who are bitching about minimum wage being raised. I can actually see both sides of the minimum wage argument so I'm hesitant to say anything about it 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wacky1980 Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 7 minutes ago, tsar4 said: They'll do better when they get $15/hr. everyone should get a 90% raise. think of all the stuff you could buy with that extra cash just dropping into your bank account! things like a better work ethic. which, oddly enough, requires precisely $15/hr to maintain. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mini_ghost420 Posted October 30, 2018 Author Share Posted October 30, 2018 34 minutes ago, fuggstop said: Of course They were a whole family and they were awesome Would help us cook...dropping fries and shit. So everyone was on their best behavior this is the way this owner is too. he gets in there and works along side his workers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mini_ghost420 Posted October 30, 2018 Author Share Posted October 30, 2018 31 minutes ago, Buddyroe360 said: Well it's kind of a chicken/egg thing....I'm not gonna do a bangup job for 8 bucks either  my disability check is more then 8 dollars an hour and I get paid to do nothing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mini_ghost420 Posted October 30, 2018 Author Share Posted October 30, 2018 13 minutes ago, tsar4 said: They'll do better when they get $15/hr. I'm not sure about that. the starting wage at this McD's is 10 dollars an hour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midnight Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 6 minutes ago, Mini_Ghost said: I can actually see both sides of the minimum wage argument so I'm hesitant to say anything about it I mean, I can see both sides too. It's hard to care about a job that's paying only that much, but at the same time, are they gonna do it better if they are making more money? I don't know. I have worked with folks making more than 15 an hour, and weren't worth a shit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuggstop Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 18 minutes ago, tsar4 said: They'll do better when they get $15/hr. No they wont. Not when their leaders arent pushing them or training them to perform. They have no idea wtf they are doing and no one guides them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mini_ghost420 Posted October 30, 2018 Author Share Posted October 30, 2018 1 minute ago, midnight said: I mean, I can see both sides too. It's hard to care about a job that's paying only that much, but at the same time, are they gonna do it better if they are making more money? I don't know. I have worked with folks making more than 15 an hour, and weren't worth a shit. also around here minimum wage don't really fly they got to compete with the mines and oil rigs for working stiffs. so even shit jobs pay 10 an hour most of the time 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midnight Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 37 minutes ago, Buddyroe360 said: Well it's kind of a chicken/egg thing....I'm not gonna do a bangup job for 8 bucks either  It is a complicated subject. I understand folks not wanting to bust their ass for 8 bucks an hour, but at the same time, I have worked with folks who make 15 an hour, and they didn't give a shit either. If corporations are made to pay their employees a minimum wage of 15 an hour, then the prices are going to go up on everything. A company isn't going to lose money. The employees will. Even with a raise, across the board, everything is going to go up to accommodate that salary increase. Then the employees will be back in the same boat, not giving a shit. That's the only way I see that playing out. I think the people deserve a raise, but without repercussions. At the same time, if this could happen, then the employees should be expected to at least pretend to give a shit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsar4 Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 22 minutes ago, Mini_Ghost said: I'm not sure about that. the starting wage at this McD's is 10 dollars an hour. Is everyone's sarcasm detection unit turned off? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
André Toulon Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 (edited) 26 minutes ago, midnight said: I mean, I can see both sides too. It's hard to care about a job that's paying only that much, but at the same time, are they gonna do it better if they are making more money? I don't know. I have worked with folks making more than 15 an hour, and weren't worth a shit. The trick here is when McDee's or whatever starts paying 15 bucks an hour, then the hiring phase has to extend past "this guy showed up for the interview."......At a 15/hr wage, you can weed out people who just want one check or want to sit on their ass....So the FIRST thing to do would be to filter supervisors that want quality employees vs Supervisors wanting to cover a shift so they can go home Edited October 30, 2018 by Buddyroe360 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mini_ghost420 Posted October 30, 2018 Author Share Posted October 30, 2018 5 minutes ago, tsar4 said: Is everyone's sarcasm detection unit turned off? I'm being serious we got an oil rig and a mine around here. even an entry lvl job there is at least 23 dollars an hour. you can't really pay minimum wage here unless you're only hiring high school teens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuggstop Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 12 minutes ago, tsar4 said: Is everyone's sarcasm detection unit turned off? Oh heh heh heh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midnight Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 44 minutes ago, Buddyroe360 said: The trick here is when McDee's or whatever starts paying 15 bucks an hour, then the hiring phase has to extend past "this guy showed up for the interview."......At a 15/hr wage, you can weed out people who just want one check or want to sit on their ass....So the FIRST thing to do would be to filter supervisors that want quality employees vs Supervisors wanting to cover a shift so they can go home Yes. This is a very good concept. An employee is only going to be as efficient as their supervisor. If the boss doesn't care, why should the people under him/her? It can work, but only if it is done like you suggested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doom Metal Alchemist Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 How do you know the owner is there... before you go? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mini_ghost420 Posted October 31, 2018 Author Share Posted October 31, 2018 28 minutes ago, Doom Metal Alchemist said: How do you know the owner is there... before you go? just a guesstimate based on when he is usually there 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuggstop Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 31 minutes ago, Doom Metal Alchemist said: How do you know the owner is there... before you go? He just knows. I used to be like that til my mind got flushed down the toilet of clinical depression lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mini_ghost420 Posted October 31, 2018 Author Share Posted October 31, 2018 2 minutes ago, fuggstop said: He just knows. I used to be like that til my mind got flushed down the toilet of clinical depression lol Fugz knows whats up ~air drumroll~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuggstop Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 2 minutes ago, Mini_Ghost said: Fugz knows whats up ~air drumroll~ I think its so cool we met. Fellow..wit-😉😉 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mini_ghost420 Posted October 31, 2018 Author Share Posted October 31, 2018 Indeed. you're one of my favorite people of all time 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuggstop Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 1 minute ago, Mini_Ghost said: Indeed. you're one of my favorite people of all time Awww We gotta exchange contact info in case viper wipes this place off the internet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mini_ghost420 Posted October 31, 2018 Author Share Posted October 31, 2018 Just now, fuggstop said: Awww We gotta exchange contact info in case viper wipes this place off the internet yeah! I'm not scared of a viper he's not even a figurement of his own imagination but that's still a good idea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naraku4656 Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 i haven't been to mcdicks in a while. i used to like them but as i got older the taste kind of went away Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mini_ghost420 Posted October 31, 2018 Author Share Posted October 31, 2018 1 minute ago, Naraku4656 said: i haven't been to mcdicks in a while. i used to like them but as i got older the taste kind of went away what I usually order has changed from when I was younger. it used to be Big Macs but now it's double quarter pounder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naraku4656 Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 it's just that the burgers there are like $7. for like 2 dollars more i can go to a bar and get a much better burger. the only time i really go there is when i get a hard craving for it or i'm on a long drive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mini_ghost420 Posted October 31, 2018 Author Share Posted October 31, 2018 Just now, Naraku4656 said: it's just that the burgers there are like $7. for like 2 dollars more i can go to a bar and get a much better burger. the only time i really go there is when i get a hard craving for it or i'm on a long drive yeah I could go to a bar and eat for my order. but I crave them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuggstop Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 5 minutes ago, Naraku4656 said: i haven't been to mcdicks in a while. i used to like them but as i got older the taste kind of went away I was gonna call u a food nazi but then i remembered last week i got nuggets and they tasted like cardboard Thats a hard thing for me to say Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naraku4656 Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, fuggstop said: I was gonna call u a food nazi but then i remembered last week i got nuggets and they tasted like cardboard Thats a hard thing for me to say i feel like once they tried being healthy they stopped being good. like i'm talking super size long time ago they were legit. even though i never did super size Edited October 31, 2018 by Naraku4656 apparently my brain is failing me, i wasn't alive for styrofoam containers there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilosipherStoned Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 Ronald? I hate clowns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mini_ghost420 Posted October 31, 2018 Author Share Posted October 31, 2018 17 minutes ago, PhilosipherStoned said: Ronald? I hate clowns. they don't even use him anymore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilosipherStoned Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 I prefer to go to burger king for a quick burger. Not just because I might see something like this at McDonalds, but Burger King > McDonalds 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mini_ghost420 Posted October 31, 2018 Author Share Posted October 31, 2018 I agree but the closest BK to me is 30 miles away and I can walk to McDonalds McD's is the only thing this town has that isn't mom and pop or a bar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilosipherStoned Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 I do have to admit that I sometimes pay their drive through a visit at 3am for 6 double cheeseburgers though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mini_ghost420 Posted October 31, 2018 Author Share Posted October 31, 2018 oh yeah that a good late night snack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lasty Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 Is the food ever right at a McDonald's? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doom Metal Alchemist Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 1 hour ago, PhilosipherStoned said: I prefer to go to burger king for a quick burger. Not just because I might see something like this at McDonalds, but Burger King > McDonalds She just wants Chicken McNuggets for Christmas, that's all. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mini_ghost420 Posted October 31, 2018 Author Share Posted October 31, 2018 28 minutes ago, Lasty said: Is the food ever right at a McDonald's? I don't know. I mean sometimes. when the owner is there it has a paper around the burger and when he's there they don't do that and they're only sometimes stacked good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KimopoBotar Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 10 hours ago, midnight said: It is a complicated subject. I understand folks not wanting to bust their ass for 8 bucks an hour, but at the same time, I have worked with folks who make 15 an hour, and they didn't give a shit either. If corporations are made to pay their employees a minimum wage of 15 an hour, then the prices are going to go up on everything. A company isn't going to lose money. The employees will. Even with a raise, across the board, everything is going to go up to accommodate that salary increase. Then the employees will be back in the same boat, not giving a shit. That's the only way I see that playing out. I think the people deserve a raise, but without repercussions. At the same time, if this could happen, then the employees should be expected to at least pretend to give a shit. This is the same kind of argument that they use against unions, and what it boils down to is a threat by the companies in order to secure our compliance. But they have room to lose some and still make profits. Most companies, even with the havoc of the last few weeks, have been making record profits for years (starting under the Obama administration). Wage growth hasn't grown to match. That money didn't disappear. Those at the top keep sucking up more of it. And they will until we return to the gilded era. Or worse. A liveable minimum wage prevents that. Or at least slows it. That was what the minimum wage was intended to do. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bouvre Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 (edited) 12 hours ago, fuggstop said: No they wont. Not when their leaders arent pushing them or training them to perform. They have no idea wtf they are doing and no one guides them. I was given significant independence when I edited NIH, NSF, and NASA grants in grad school. If I didn't get paid at least fifteen an hour for making sure the science faculty of my university knew how to write a sentence (a lot of them didn't), I would have probably just blew the job off. But fifteen was a lot, so I worked hard. Hell, even when I taught kindergarten and first grade in a hagwon in South Korea, making the same wage as people who worked 30 hours a week while I worked 60, I still worked my ass off because I was making 2000 a month not including living wages. That's the most money I've seen from a job ever. Theres also this: A lot of people are simply worn down by being talked down to by the same people who request their services, because we live in a society that sees certain employment as inferior, despite the fact that it makes a small fraction of people VERY VERY rich, and feeds millions of people on a daily basis--a basic human need! If that isnt respected with an income that doesn't cover the employee's own basic needs, how can we demand so much of their work ethic? How can we berate them for asking for more when more only covers the standard? Edited October 31, 2018 by Bouvre 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midnight Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 4 hours ago, KimopoBotar said: This is the same kind of argument that they use against unions, and what it boils down to is a threat by the companies in order to secure our compliance. But they have room to lose some and still make profits. Most companies, even with the havoc of the last few weeks, have been making record profits for years (starting under the Obama administration). Wage growth hasn't grown to match. That money didn't disappear. Those at the top keep sucking up more of it. And they will until we return to the gilded era. Or worse. A liveable minimum wage prevents that. Or at least slows it. That was what the minimum wage was intended to do. The trouble is getting the companies to part with a little extra. The rich don't want to give up any money. Even if the minimum wage is raised, the big corporations will find a way to get that money back, via price increases on everything. We remain lower-middle class for a reason. The 1% controls everything. It is sad to think that a company like McDonald's is a multi-billion dollar company, and most of their employees can't afford to live. People are working for, in my state, $7.25 an hour, just to help make more money, not for themselves, but for more rich bastards. My state is boasting about unemployment being the lowest it's been in years, due to so many jobs being filled. Those jobs are minimum wage jobs. There are Dollar General's being thrown up all over the place down here, and $7.25 an hour is what they start at. That's not much to boast about. But, if Abrams wins our governor's race, she wants to increase the minimum wage. I just hope we don't see price increases on everything, which will put everyone back in the same boat they were in. Buddy said it best. It has to work the way he mentioned, or it won't work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuggstop Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 4 hours ago, Bouvre said: I was given significant independence when I edited NIH, NSF, and NASA grants in grad school. If I didn't get paid at least fifteen an hour for making sure the science faculty of my university knew how to write a sentence (a lot of them didn't), I would have probably just blew the job off. But fifteen was a lot, so I worked hard. Hell, even when I taught kindergarten and first grade in a hagwon in South Korea, making the same wage as people who worked 30 hours a week while I worked 60, I still worked my ass off because I was making 2000 a month not including living wages. That's the most money I've seen from a job ever. Theres also this: A lot of people are simply worn down by being talked down to by the same people who request their services, because we live in a society that sees certain employment as inferior, despite the fact that it makes a small fraction of people VERY VERY rich, and feeds millions of people on a daily basis--a basic human need! If that isnt respected with an income that doesn't cover the employee's own basic needs, how can we demand so much of their work ethic? How can we berate them for asking for more when more only covers the standard? I was berated maybe once by this crazy man who never came back. So there was no constant belittling for me. There sure is at the job im at now but i make ok money here  1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mini_ghost420 Posted October 31, 2018 Author Share Posted October 31, 2018 8 hours ago, Bouvre said: I was given significant independence when I edited NIH, NSF, and NASA grants in grad school. If I didn't get paid at least fifteen an hour for making sure the science faculty of my university knew how to write a sentence (a lot of them didn't), I would have probably just blew the job off. But fifteen was a lot, so I worked hard. Hell, even when I taught kindergarten and first grade in a hagwon in South Korea, making the same wage as people who worked 30 hours a week while I worked 60, I still worked my ass off because I was making 2000 a month not including living wages. That's the most money I've seen from a job ever. Theres also this: A lot of people are simply worn down by being talked down to by the same people who request their services, because we live in a society that sees certain employment as inferior, despite the fact that it makes a small fraction of people VERY VERY rich, and feeds millions of people on a daily basis--a basic human need! If that isnt respected with an income that doesn't cover the employee's own basic needs, how can we demand so much of their work ethic? How can we berate them for asking for more when more only covers the standard? I do not berate such workers because I'd be one of them if it wasn't for my disability checks and Lord Nanna commands me not to berate them 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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