OwlChemist81 Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 pretty soon this thread might end up in dumpster fire I can't really say I see that happening. It's annoying but it's not "dumpster fire" level ridiculous. If it does, I'll just have to make a new one to cover 2017. In fact, a reboot for 2017 might not be such a bad thing. But that WON'T include the DBZ Kai marathon. (Are they calling it "New Year's Eve-il?") Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokeNirvash Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 Ben's not in this thread, so the chances of this being thrown into the dumpster fire are pretty low right now, even if Jman insisting that Dandy isn't funny as if it's fact is really fucking annoying. >( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OwlChemist81 Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 considering the block usually gets "how isn't this cancelled yet" raitings during the holiday season, and ISN'T this year....I think you're being needlessly bleak, if anything the raitings (for this time of year) are at an all time High I wouldn't exactly say that, but even with this Christmas Eve low, December 2016 actually did/is doing better than November 2016. Whether or not the month is over is a matter of perception, since the DBZ Kai marathon won't technically start until midnight on 1/1/17. I am still wont to count it as part of December 2016 though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mochi Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 Ben's not in this thread, so the chances of this being thrown into the dumpster fire are pretty low right now, even if Jman insisting that Dandy isn't funny as if it's fact is really fucking annoying. >( yeah, as obnoxious as they're being they aren't saying anything racist or physically threatening Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sketch Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 Actually there was a pretty noticeable down curve in ratings consistent with it not being funny. It's ratings fluctuated but in the first season it never dropped below a million viewers and as you may recall the lead-in was not Family Guy but rather The Boondocks when that show was on the decline. Given that, Dandy did plenty well for itself in season one. It only lost to Bleach one time before it started reruns and kept pace with the Boondocks. Season two dropped a bit from Bleach and really didn't work well between Bleach and Shippuden but had an upswing toward the end. Season One total viewers (not enough 18-49 data is available for this time period) 1,135,000 1,204,000 1,411,000 1,251,000 1,357,000 1,464,000 1,370,000 1,169,000 1,211,000 1,276,000 1,099,000 1,328,000 1,211,000 Total Viewer Average: 1,268,154 Season Two 18-49 Viewers: 432,000 508,000 410,000 396,000 434,000 522,000 519,000 538,000 697,000 556,000 624,000 565,000 702,000 18-49 Average 531,000 I wont say the second season was a smash but it certainly did not tank despite the very weak start on 4th of July weekend. It averaged around a 0.41 18-49 rating which isn't bad for 12:30AM at all and it didn't drop tremendously from it's lead-ins. Summer of 2014 wasn't exactly the ratings high point for the block either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bookend47 Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 I think that what we should take away from all this is that IBO deserves an apology, in retrospect its drops were blown way out of proportions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sketch Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 I think that what we should take away from all this is that IBO deserves an apology, in retrospect its drops were blown way out of proportions. Yeah they were. Now we've moved on to blowing JoJo's drops out of proportion! But seriously, everything is fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moose Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 Lmao I love how the newest line-up promo ignores everything besides the two Dragonball series and Gundam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 No different than the Adult Swim lineup promos hyping the Fox shows...and Rick and Morty. Maybe Robot Chicken on occasion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OwlChemist81 Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 Lmao I love how the newest line-up promo ignores everything besides the two Dragonball series and Gundam. Huh, really? No mention of JoJo at 12:30? That's kinda weird. Especially since if they had found something else to air at 1 AM on 12/17/16, they could have billed it as "JoJo: Battle Tendency Arc!" But I'm guessing that might be just an edited-for-time version and not the "full" promo. They've done that before. But as is, it comes back with the 2nd episode of Part 2 (11), so maybe it's better to not mention it. Just as long as it and the other 4 shows at least get clips from their shows. Maybe they won't be in the 30-second edit, but maybe a different 1-minute cut will sneak peek on Pre-Flight tonight? Edit: nope. The promo aired on Pre-Flight just as it has on regular [as]. It is indeed a "New Shows Only" promo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokeNirvash Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 Hmm. Maybe they'll throw in the rest of the shows once premiere week's out of the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blatch Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 So you guys are telling me that a lineup promo already aired on [as] without anyone else noticing? I would've figured someone on Twitter had pointed it out to CabooseJR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bookend47 Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 Where are the receipts for that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sketch Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 Think of it like that Space Dandy / Shippuden promo for the first Saturday in 2014. They did a full line-up promo soon after IIRC and I'm sure they'll do one soon as well. I appreciate that they are doing a group promo like that for their upcoming big premiere night. Kinda shitty not to include JoJo and skip to Gundam but it's good that they are including Gundam. There's also a 30 second Dragon Ball Super promo floating around which is a shorter version of the long promo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bookend47 Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 Hope so but it seemed like it was a given. If they do though it's certainly going to be packed and full of great clips from each show. Interestingly this new promo reminded me so much of the Lucky 7 one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OwlChemist81 Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 Well, this happened. Yeeeeeouch!!! http://programminginsider.com/ratings/final-nationals/saturday-final-nationals-double-digit-growth-college-football-playoff-semifinal-doubleheader-espn/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moose Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 Well, since it aired LITERALLY on New Years, you can't really fault it. Still, it being DBZ, I thought it would do a bit better than that. Looks like marathons are over-staying their welcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misaka Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 what happen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blatch Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 JoJo's marathon suddenly doesn't look so bad now. O0 They messed up Shelter's timeslot, but as you can see, it doesn't matter much. It probably got around 670K in total. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
korosu Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 JoJo's marathon suddenly doesn't look so bad now. O0 They messed up Shelter's timeslot, but as you can see, it doesn't matter much. It probably got around 670K in total. The number for 12:30 includes Shelter so no accurate numbers for Shelter or the second DBZ Kai episode. It looks like 12-12:30 DBZ Kai got 679,000 total, 365,000 18-49 though TVBTN just tweeted about having issues with the Saturday ratings. No idea if that includes these, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokeNirvash Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 Well, the positive thing we can get from this, though, is that the ratings didn't dip down into "Chiller Ani-Wednesdays" levels of fail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OwlChemist81 Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 Here's what I got for the retention and averages: 12:00 AM DBZ Kai Marathon 679,000 (60.41%) 12:30 AM DBZ Kai Marathon 686,000 (101.03%) 1:00 AM DBZ Kai Marathon 658,000 (95.92%) 1:30 AM DBZ Kai Marathon 629,000 (95.59%) 2:00 AM DBZ Kai Marathon 591,000 (93.96%) 2:30 AM DBZ Kai Marathon 494,000 (83.59%) 3:00 AM DBZ Kai Marathon 482,000 (97.57%) TOTAL VIEWERS AVERAGE - 602,714 12:00 AM DBZ Kai Marathon 365,333 (59.93%) 12:30 AM DBZ Kai Marathon 396,000 (108.39%) 1:00 AM DBZ Kai Marathon 386,000 (97.47%) 1:30 AM DBZ Kai Marathon 358,000 (92.75%) 2:00 AM DBZ Kai Marathon 348,000 (97.21%) 2:30 AM DBZ Kai Marathon 291,000 (83.62%) 3:00 AM DBZ Kai Marathon 294,000 (101.03%) TOTAL VIEWERS AVERAGE - 348,333 The fairly sizable uptick in both at 12:30 is most likely a result of Shelter playing. It was also relatively convenient for NYE revelers to tune in and check out, then turn off their TVs. If nothing else it provided something better to watch than Mariah Carey's massive meltdown! Family Guy only got 1124K and a 0.48 in Adults 18-49 at 11:30. I'm SURE DragonBall Super can beat that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainStarwind Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Well according to these ratings DBZ is the worst performing show on the block. Obviously it needs to go, pronto. Toonami will be better for it. In all seriousness, though, it appears even DBZ isn't immune to bad ratings on New Years Eve. Of course, being New Years Eve, it was obvious this would happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sketch Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Well, since it aired LITERALLY on New Years, you can't really fault it. Still, it being DBZ, I thought it would do a bit better than that. Looks like marathons are over-staying their welcome. If the problem was marathoning on a holiday weekend then they're kind of up a crick without a paddle. Airing the regular line-up that night would have been disastrous and movies would be a waste of a premiere as well. So there's really not much that can be done short of doing theme marathons which I recommend they try one of these days. One-Punch Man's marathon did great though. It really depends on the day, the competition and the show that is getting a marathon. I also would have figured DBZ would do better than that but give how comedy did it's not that surprising. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginguy Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 NYE is literally a throw-away weekend. No one, advertisers included, expects any significant views for anything other than ball drop specials and maybe watching CNN's Don Lemon get shit-faced on Ceurvo and his ear pierced. The real test will be the DBZ Super and Kai Buu going back to back. I think they will do fine, they have so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OwlChemist81 Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 As bad as NYE did, it still wasn't the worst marathon yet. That dubious honor actually goes to the Akame ga KILL! marathon on 10/31/15. This is somewhat surprising, when you consider those two shows also have the highest-rated Toonami episodes yet. And of course, two lineups in 2014 (Thanksgiving weekend's regular lineup and 12/13/14's "Hellsing X/FMA Milos unholy mega-bomb combo") also fell to it. I think premiering shorts during rerun marathons is a good move. Sometimes they take us by surprise (see David Gilmour's "Rattle That Lock" during the Michiko & Hatchin marathon and Death Cab For Cutie's video during the Samurai Champloo marathon), but it seems to work out slightly better if they're planned. I THINK High On Fire's video was supposed to premiere during the One-Punch Man marathon, but somehow it got bumped to the following weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sketch Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 They've been advertising Super like crazy and also took the time to advertise Kai FC and Gundam Unicorn. One can only wonder if all that extra promotion will pay off. Could tomorrow out-rate the perfect storm of the Akame ga Kill / Resurrection F preview night from August of 2015? I have my doubts they can match that but at the very least the turn-out should be the best it has been in quite some time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moose Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 It's weird that they haven't advertised the 8pm showing of Super tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sketch Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 It's weird that they haven't advertised the 8pm showing of Super tho. It kind of isn't. Adult Swim avoids premiering shows in prime time. It's a stealth premiere intended to fly under the radar likely only happening due to Toei's wishes. They seem intent on pretending that airing doesn't exist. The show is going to even get weekly topicals but they'll only acknowledge the 11:30pm airings because that's when it's on Toonami. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
korosu Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 i have high expectations for this week's ratings i would hope super beats akame's premiere ratings at the very least also i know twitter trends and ratings don't really correlate but one piece was actually in my trending list this morning, so that's at least exciting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OwlChemist81 Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 The 8 PM airing actually got a bump tonight before 12:30 Boondocks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sketch Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 The 8 PM airing actually got a bump tonight before 12:30 Boondocks! Really now? That's a welcome surprise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sketch Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 Here's my estimated predictions for Saturday's ratings Dragon Ball Super Premiere 0.37 18-49 1.1 million total viewers Dragon Ball Super Encore 0.82 18-49 1.8 million total viewers Dragon Ball Z Kai FC 0.74 18-49 1.6 million total viewers JoJo's Bizarre Adventure 0.61 18-49 1.3 million total viewers Gundam Unicorn 0.53 18-49 1.2 million total viewers Hunter x Hunter 0.46 18-49 1.1 million total viewers Naruto Shippuden 0.43 18-49 975,000 total viewers One Piece 0.39 18-49 825,000 total viewers One-Punch Man 0.40 18-49 870,000 total viewers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OwlChemist81 Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 That seems a little high, but I would love to see it! Unfortunately, that's not what happened. 1/7/2017 Dragon Ball Super (8 PM) - #10 Adults 18-34 Rating - 0.45 Estimated 18-34 - 306,000 ( 28.79% ) Adults 18-49 Rating - 0.40 Estimated 18-49 - 508,000 ( 64.23% ) Total Viewers - 1,063,000 1/7/2017 DBZ Kai: Final Chapters - #6 Adults 18-34 Rating - 0.68 Estimated 18-34 - 462,000 ( 43.46% ) Adults 18-49 Rating - 0.52 Estimated 18-49 - 660,000 ( 64.23% ) Total Viewers - 1,124,000 1/7/2017 JoJo's Bizarre Adventure - #8 Adults 18-34 Rating - 0.55 Estimated 18-34 - 374,000 ( 41.56% ) Adults 18-49 Rating - 0.44 Estimated 18-49 - 559,000 ( 64.23% ) Total Viewers - 900,000 1/7/2017 Gundam Unicorn - #17 Adults 18-34 Rating - 0.47 Estimated 18-34 - 319,000 ( 42.70% ) Adults 18-49 Rating - 0.35 Estimated 18-49 - 445,000 ( 64.23% ) Total Viewers - 747,000 You were spot-on with the 8 PM premiere though! Even so, I wonder how long it will take Adult Swim to replace the 8 PM premiere with an encore of the previous week's 11:30, since this IS proving detrimental to Toonami! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moose Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 You messed up on Kai, it got 1,124,00 total viewers. I could've told you that much about Super. If they air a Super premiere earlier, than the viewership will probably be halved between the 8pm premiere and the Toonami premiere. I guess they are trying to get around some fine print, but this decision still makes no sense to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moose Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 You know what would be hilarious? If Super actually does worse than Kai. Do you know what that would mean? That would mean, that the viewers.... are SOOOOOOOOO obsessed with their nostalgic feelings, that they'd rather relive DBZ than experience the new chapter. That would be... lmao oh god... a different level of the mainstream not wanting to move on from DBZ. A whole new level. (granted, Super is pretty mediocre, but still) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 Well...it's official. It bombed. Toonami is over. Everyone has moved to Netflix, your new entertainment God. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moose Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 Well...it's official. It bombed. Toonami is over. Everyone has moved to Netflix, your new entertainment God. Lmao it's like your finger is steadily ready the minute ratings come out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sketch Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 You know what would be hilarious? If Super actually does worse than Kai. Do you know what that would mean? That would mean, that the viewers.... are SOOOOOOOOO obsessed with their nostalgic feelings, that they'd rather relive DBZ than experience the new chapter. That would be... lmao oh god... a different level of the mainstream not wanting to move on from DBZ. A whole new level. (granted, Super is pretty mediocre, but still) Well that would be horrendous Seems I got close with my 8pm Super prediction but am way off for the rest. I get the feeling nothing on AS that night cracked 0.8 18-49 or 1.6 million viewers but we'll see how Family Guy and 11:30 Super did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blatch Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 Since it was the first weekend of the new year, I can't say I'm expecting great numbers for the 11:30P Super. It'll probably get up to its predicted numbers once people become numb to the current political situation and start watching more TV as a coping mechanism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokeNirvash Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 Well...it's official. It bombed. Toonami is over. Everyone has moved to Netflix, your new entertainment God. This forum desperately needs a dislike button. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OwlChemist81 Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 No one else has updated yet, but Show Buzz Daily has put up a few more numbers for 1:30-3:30: http://www.showbuzzdaily.com/articles/showbuzzdailys-top-150-saturday-cable-originals-network-finals-1-7-2017.html#comment-168362 Hunter x Hunter: 0.30/679K Shippuden: 0.31/675K One Piece: 0.26/554K One-Punch Man: 0.27/581K It is also worth noting that somehow TWILIGHT BREAKING DAWN Part 1 managed to beat Super's premiere, and Part 2 managed to beat most of Toonami. An antiquated movie series from like 2012 that's been pretty much rerun to death beat a U.S. Premiere of new dubbed DragonBall. LET THAT SINK IN! That's pretty much what Toonami loses by not having anything for the ladies, and being essentially a "boys club". If Viz could somehow provide Sailor Moon Crystal and Sentai could provide Flip-Flappers, that might change things. But I'm not sure where the hell you would put them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 Look at those drops for Hiatus and OP. In contrast, Naruto held rather well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasqueradeOverture Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 This is depressing. Is it time to bust out the "An Adult Swim without anime, an Adult Swim we deserve" cries yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 This is depressing. Is it time to bust out the "An Adult Swim without anime, an Adult Swim we deserve" cries yet? The new rallying cry is "All hail Netflix and Hulu, your entertainment gods." Especially when Bojack Horseman is what Morel Orel wanted to be before Lazzo pulled he plug. (Also new season of Ajin > Shippuden.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OwlChemist81 Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 Well, the TVByTheNumbers/Screener numbers have come in, and nothing below Gundam Unicorn (still listed as IBO for some ridiculous reason) made the Top 100: http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/daily-ratings/saturday-cable-ratings-jan-7-2017/ Super disappointed slightly at 11:30 with 1369K, but at least it didn't lose much from Family Guy. It DID even make it to 0.7 18-49! Now what that means exactly, we're not sure. The drop between Super and Kai is baffling. On a day-to-day basis, it appears Toonami edged out Adult Swim Sundays, but 3 AM One-Punch Man of course misses the Top 100: http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/daily-ratings/sunday-cable-ratings-jan-8-2017/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OwlChemist81 Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 TOTAL VIEWERS RETENTION: 8:00 PM Dragon Ball Super 1,063,000 (73.72%) 8:30 PM American Dad 853,000 (80.24%) 11:30 PM Dragon Ball Super 1,369,000 (84.04%) 12:00 AM DBZ Kai: The Final Chapters 1,124,000 (82.10%) 12:30 AM JoJo's Bizarre Adventure 900,000 (80.07%) 1:00 AM Mobile Suit Gundam Unicorn 747,000 (83.00%) 1:30 AM Hunter × Hunter 679,000 (90.90%) 2:00 AM Naruto: Shippuden 675,000 (99.41%) 2:30 AM One Piece 554,000 (82.07%) 3:00 AM One-Punch Man 581,000 (104.87%) TOTAL VIEWERS AVERAGE - 828,625 If you're wondering why I included American Dad, it's because it will be replaced next week by Samurai Jack, and I wanted to give that timeslot a "baseline". It's not action so I've included it in italics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 OPM gained on OP and DeMarco's squeeing for it becomes infinitely more frustrating. Cancel OP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sketch Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 Look at those drops for Hiatus and OP. In contrast, Naruto held rather well. A couple of 0.05 drops are your concern when JoJos lost 0.08 and Gundam lost 0.09? None of those drops are bad. The greatest concern is DBZ losing 0.20 give or take from Super. As apparently even more Dragon Ball is not immune to the post Dragon Ball drop. But props to Shippuden and One-Punch for edging out their lead-ins. Kind of a lower night overall despite Super getting 0.7 18-49 and holding a 0.8 FG very well. 8pm Super beat 8:30 American Dad but not the 9pm one. Not so sure Jack can match that but it's a freebie so expectations will be lower. Double R&M before Family Guy might lower FG though and in turn lower 11:30 DBS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sketch Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 OPM gained on OP and DeMarco's squeeing for it becomes infinitely more frustrating. Cancel OP. YOU are frustrating. Live and let live. It's no surprise slightly used OPM can edge out One Piece on occasion but even with movie hype I doubt GITS will ever manage that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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