jackiemarie90 Posted February 16, 2018 Author Posted February 16, 2018 4 minutes ago, Cau said: I meant the bad list, I wasn't referring to you. lol
SwimModSponges Posted February 16, 2018 Posted February 16, 2018 My mind circulated to raising the same dam finger. >_> Idk, I believe in kinda like, caring for others in humanity, too much cynicism will make you give up and not really try stuff in life, and people always eventually change, as it's key in survival? That's like a cluster fuck of beliefs lol That's where the absurdism comes in. If life has no meaning, you are free to just sit back and enjoy the ride. Sisyphus (who was cursed to roll a boulder up a hill, only to have it roll back down, every time, forever) will never know greater joy that the satisfaction of pushing a boulder. No matter what the subjective experience you define as "your life"consists of, that's your stuff right there. Fucking enjoy that shit, it's a hell of a goddamn ride. The ups, the downs, the chemical emotional reactions brought on by chemical environmental stimuli... It's an absolute joy that you get to experience it. Your life consists of rolling a boulder up a hill; and it is a joyous duty. Isn't there also a twinge of pretentiousness in this though? That if we study hard enough we will understand everything, I also forgot to mention I do believe in duality of life. Evil and Good, all that jazz and the grey in between in you will. But yeah, there are just some things we can honestly never comprehend, because more research won't be available until after we are dead. So some education is great, but I don't know if makes us complete understanding people. Complete understanding is, by its very nature, a limitless and ultimately impossible goal. We can do our part to expand our own knowledge and the knowledge of others, but there is no "mandate" to do so, especially not fully. Insofar as the question of good and evil; well that can pretty much be broken down to "what are the best ways to ensure the survival of the organism/community/species? Ok, that's good." "Oh shit, somebody's doing the opposite of those things and endangering the survival of the organism/community/species, that's going to be something we'll call evil." As I recall, fatalism is a branch of predeterminism. Whereas predeterminism generally is the concept that everything is predetermined (either by due to a supreme being or due to a rube goldberg machine of chemical reactions triggered by the big bang), fatalism is more Shakespearean or like Oedipus. Or as Darth Vader would say: "it is your destiny" You may be right, so call me a predeterminist if you're going to. Or not, either way, that's what's up.
CAC Posted February 16, 2018 Posted February 16, 2018 46 minutes ago, jackiemarie90 said: Idk, it feels people here rather run to the "You're wrong" option instead of trying to explain things more slowly. oh well I'm not unless I'm really shit posting "no you"'s and such.
Cau Posted February 16, 2018 Posted February 16, 2018 5 minutes ago, jackiemarie90 said: I meant the bad list, I wasn't referring to you. lol 1
SwimModSponges Posted February 16, 2018 Posted February 16, 2018 Damn, I don't have any idea what I'm doing with all these goddamn brackets but it is wonky.
jackiemarie90 Posted February 16, 2018 Author Posted February 16, 2018 6 minutes ago, SwimModSponges said: Well you know duality applies to more than just goodness and even, its kinda like, there is opposite of everything if you will.
jackiemarie90 Posted February 16, 2018 Author Posted February 16, 2018 7 minutes ago, CAC said: oh well I'm not unless I'm really shit posting "no you"'s and such. I would consider the No U posts an enjoyable post.
Hornshire Posted February 16, 2018 Posted February 16, 2018 49 minutes ago, jackiemarie90 said: Oh gawd is this going into the philosphy area? I don't liek these dabates. lol Going? Pretty sure it started there. And while that could just be because that's the lens through which We view everything, wouldn't it be neat if there actually was some other explanation?
SwimModSponges Posted February 16, 2018 Posted February 16, 2018 2 minutes ago, jackiemarie90 said: Well you know duality applies to more than just goodness and even, its kinda like, there is opposite of everything if you will. What is the opposite of a chair? What is the opposite of salt? What is the opposite of a dolphin?
Lasty Posted February 16, 2018 Posted February 16, 2018 Everything is pointless. Posting is pointless. Not posting is pointless. Being happy, sad, angry, disgusted or depressed, (etc.) are all pointless. Going on living is pointless. Dying is pointless. Nature just doesn't give a shit. If everything is pointless, then there's nothing to worry about. We get to make up our own point.... 2
jackiemarie90 Posted February 16, 2018 Author Posted February 16, 2018 3 minutes ago, Kweerie said: Going? Pretty sure it started there. And while that could just be because that's the lens through which We view everything, wouldn't it be neat if there actually was some other explanation? I mean, look at people already saying I'm not into philosphy though. lol So that's what I meant. Didn't want to get into the no fun nazi side of it where we follow these rules and all that jazz.
jackiemarie90 Posted February 16, 2018 Author Posted February 16, 2018 (edited) 29 minutes ago, SwimModSponges said: What is the opposite of a chair? What is the opposite of salt? What is the opposite of a dolphin? An object made for standing? The do have beds like that Sugar? A mammal on land, maybe a pig because it is also intelligent, or a bat would be better, cause of echo location. Edited February 16, 2018 by jackiemarie90
Raptorpat Posted February 16, 2018 Posted February 16, 2018 40 minutes ago, SwimModSponges said: Quote As I recall, fatalism is a branch of predeterminism. Whereas predeterminism generally is the concept that everything is predetermined (either by due to a supreme being or due to a rube goldberg machine of chemical reactions triggered by the big bang), fatalism is more Shakespearean or like Oedipus. Or as Darth Vader would say: "it is your destiny" You may be right, so call me a predeterminist if you're going to. Or not, either way, that's what's up. ok also you messed up your quote
Raptorpat Posted February 16, 2018 Posted February 16, 2018 25 minutes ago, jackiemarie90 said: I mean, look at people already saying I'm not into philosphy though. lol So that's what I meant. Didn't want to get into the no fun nazi side of it where we follow these rules and all that jazz. also what
CAC Posted February 16, 2018 Posted February 16, 2018 37 minutes ago, jackiemarie90 said: I would consider the No U posts an enjoyable post. no me
jackiemarie90 Posted February 16, 2018 Author Posted February 16, 2018 4 minutes ago, Adminderaptorpat said: also what Oh how in Philosophy people use specific terms to describe something, and get mad when people don't use those terms, even though it excludes a major portion of the population from discussion. No one is considered "smart enough" if they don't learn these specific terms or ideals. 1
jackiemarie90 Posted February 16, 2018 Author Posted February 16, 2018 4 minutes ago, CAC said: no me No US
SwimModSponges Posted February 16, 2018 Posted February 16, 2018 10 minutes ago, jackiemarie90 said: An object made for standing? The do have beds like that Sugar? A mammal on land, maybe a pic because it is also intelligent, or a bat would be better, cause of echo location. The only difference is the position in which the human body is placed at a given point in time. This is not the opposite of a chair. The only difference is the molecular makeup. Sugar is a chemical compound, salt is a chemical element. The two are only comparable in the fact that cohorts of the former are made up of cohorts from the latter. Sugar is not the opposite of salt. The only difference is evolutionary lineage suiting each eventual species towards its own environment. Pigs and dolphins last shared a common ancestor somewhere around 63 million years ago. I got tired of looking up the evolutionary history of bats, but I'm willing to bet it was a while back as well. Pigs and bats are not the opposite of dolphins. Show me something that will negate a chair. Show me the anti-salt. Show me the antithesis of a dolphin.
jackiemarie90 Posted February 16, 2018 Author Posted February 16, 2018 1 minute ago, SwimModSponges said: The only difference is the position in which the human body is placed at a given point in time. This is not the opposite of a chair. The only difference is the molecular makeup. Sugar is a chemical compound, salt is a chemical element. The two are only comparable in the fact that cohorts of the former are made up of cohorts from the latter. Sugar is not the opposite of salt. The only difference is evolutionary lineage suiting each eventual species towards its own environment. Pigs and dolphins last shared a common ancestor somewhere around 63 million years ago. I got tired of looking up the evolutionary history of bats, but I'm willing to bet it was a while back as well. Pigs and bats are not the opposite of dolphins. Show me something that will negate a chair. Show me the anti-salt. Show me the antithesis of a dolphin. It is the opposite, and it not. It's kinda like Shroender's cat thing I guess. Your definition of these things come from what you personally define it. So it's a no win battle, another reason why I hate philosophy, it's a pretentious game of what must be. 2
Raptorpat Posted February 16, 2018 Posted February 16, 2018 3 minutes ago, jackiemarie90 said: Oh how in Philosophy people use specific terms to describe something, and get mad when people don't use those terms, even though it excludes a major portion of the population from discussion. No one is considered "smart enough" if they don't learn these specific terms or ideals. I don't really get what you mean. sponges was calling himself something that he didn't mean to, and I told him he was wrong and what he actually meant to say. and then he played it cool because you implied he was pretentious and he needed to save face at the prospect of being pretentious *and* wrong.
jackiemarie90 Posted February 16, 2018 Author Posted February 16, 2018 Just now, Adminderaptorpat said: I don't really get what you mean. sponges was calling himself something that he didn't mean to, and I told him he was wrong and what he actually meant to say. and then he played it cool because you implied he was pretentious and he needed to save face at the prospect of being pretentious *and* wrong. Didn't seem cool, seems like he is trying to say my dualism belief is bullshit, in the discredit of answers. And I said in the beginning I didn't care for this talk and everyone kept pushing it, now. I don't know why people push things.
SwimModSponges Posted February 16, 2018 Posted February 16, 2018 1 minute ago, jackiemarie90 said: It is the opposite, and it not. It's kinda like Shroender's cat thing I guess. Your definition of these things come from what you personally define it. So it's a no win battle, another reason why I hate philosophy, it's a pretentious game of what must be. No, it is not the opposite. Schrodinger's cat has no bearing on the conversation; it was both dead and alive due to its inability to be observed. We can observe dolphins and salt and mercury and hotdogs and lemons and shit. Literal shit. Just everywhere. Shit is not the opposite of food. A shark is not the opposite of a dolphin because it's a fish. There is no opposite to a dolphin. If you're interesting in debating the definitions of things, I am 100% down with that. One does not debate to win, one debates to observe the views of another and allow another individual to offer their perspective of your views as you do the same to them. I don't like the word "pretentious," if one chooses to use their mind to explore their subjective perspective on the nature of reality and wishes to share that perspective, hot damn, let's get that shit rollin'.
SwimModSponges Posted February 16, 2018 Posted February 16, 2018 8 minutes ago, Adminderaptorpat said: I don't really get what you mean. sponges was calling himself something that he didn't mean to, and I told him he was wrong and what he actually meant to say. and then he played it cool because you implied he was pretentious and he needed to save face at the prospect of being pretentious *and* wrong. I think it's a well known fact that I am hella pretentious and very often wrong. 1
jackiemarie90 Posted February 16, 2018 Author Posted February 16, 2018 Just now, SwimModSponges said: No, it is not the opposite. Schrodinger's cat has no bearing on the conversation; it was both dead and alive due to its inability to be observed. We can observe dolphins and salt and mercury and hotdogs and lemons and shit. Literal shit. Just everywhere. Shit is not the opposite of food. A shark is not the opposite of a dolphin because it's a fish. There is no opposite to a dolphin. If you're interesting in debating the definitions of things, I am 100% down with that. One does not debate to win, one debates to observe the views of another and allow another individual to offer their perspective of your views as you do the same to them. I don't like the word "pretentious," if one chooses to use their mind to explore their subjective perspective on the nature of reality and wishes to share that perspective, hot damn, let's get that shit rollin'. It's both at once, so it is, and isn't the oppostive at the same time. Also you are bring up examples I didn't mention, I merely found a land animal as the opposite of an ocean, and you are saying it isn't your kind of opposite. Uh I don't debate for that reason. Also the reason you don't like pretentious is the same logic as mine own, so kinda pick and choosey on what we like? That's why I said pretentious.
NaBarney Posted February 16, 2018 Posted February 16, 2018 I just woke up. It sounds like there's a bat in my house. Gotta stop leaving the front door open
JeNewBee Posted February 16, 2018 Posted February 16, 2018 3 hours ago, jackiemarie90 said: Ya'all just pop in waiting for an "excuse" for something interesting to happen, or missing that one poster you like, but then they lurking too, waiting for you. Everyone here is so damn cynical, and you just spread it further around. I see some people trying to shitpost their way to some happiness and people just want to shut that down to as if it makes them feel better about their own shitty lives. Idk, I guess it's easier to live a cynical life because then you don't have to put in the extra work. I don't think some people understand, that not some people can just accept the terms of their life, some have suicidal thoughts, and cynicism is the final excuse to just end it. Then I know some jerks willing to claim darwinism and all that, but it's just isolating people, nothing to do with the survival of the "fittest". But feel like it's no wonder people don't post as often. I just haven't been able to think of anything to make a thread about
Raptorpat Posted February 16, 2018 Posted February 16, 2018 so i am legitimately curious your thread kind of began with you lamenting that not enough people were posting and that the ones who do post just post bad content, and then one of those people (sponges) said he spends his posting time asking people to read his fanfics and making political shitposts in rants. you asked why he chooses to do that, while cautioning that people always hate when you ask why - except when you asked "why" the only person who seemed to dislike the direction of the conversation that followed was yourself, even though you asked. am i misreading the thread? if so, what is your honest perspective? i wanna be on the same page as you, but i need help to make it click.
jackiemarie90 Posted February 16, 2018 Author Posted February 16, 2018 1 hour ago, Adminderaptorpat said: so i am legitimately curious your thread kind of began with you lamenting that not enough people were posting and that the ones who do post just post bad content, and then one of those people (sponges) said he spends his posting time asking people to read his fanfics and making political shitposts in rants. you asked why he chooses to do that, while cautioning that people always hate when you ask why - except when you asked "why" the only person who seemed to dislike the direction of the conversation that followed was yourself, even though you asked. am i misreading the thread? if so, what is your honest perspective? i wanna be on the same page as you, but i need help to make it click. No he could have just said he was in to philosphy, mention what it was and thats it, the he started saying my beliefs were irrelevant, I think think that can make people a little irrated. Other than that, I'm actually madder at other things right now. Now really that badly upset about this. This is why I was an Iber, I liked the light heartness of it, never into pod 6 talk.
André Toulon Posted February 16, 2018 Posted February 16, 2018 (edited) 6 hours ago, jackiemarie90 said: Ya'all just pop in waiting for an "excuse" for something interesting to happen, or missing that one poster you like, but then they lurking too, waiting for you. Everyone here is so damn cynical, and you just spread it further around. I see some people trying to shitpost their way to some happiness and people just want to shut that down to as if it makes them feel better about their own shitty lives. Idk, I guess it's easier to live a cynical life because then you don't have to put in the extra work. I don't think some people understand, that not some people can just accept the terms of their life, some have suicidal thoughts, and cynicism is the final excuse to just end it. Then I know some jerks willing to claim darwinism and all that, but it's just isolating people, nothing to do with the survival of the "fittest". But feel like it's no wonder people don't post as often. Nah, I hate like 3 people and I like them to know it.....Other than that, I post about any and everything.......I have a more than healthy post count......I like making words. Edited February 16, 2018 by Noboru Yamaguchi An excerpt from my little book of "So theres" 1
jackiemarie90 Posted February 16, 2018 Author Posted February 16, 2018 Just now, Noboru Yamaguchi said: Nah, I hate like 3 people and I like them to know it.....Other than that, I post about any and everything.......I have a more than healthy post count......I like making words. I'm part of the uber late night people usually I guess. I miss a lot of posting activity.
André Toulon Posted February 16, 2018 Posted February 16, 2018 See, @jackiemarie90.....I see you lurking like a gherkin......I hit post and BAM, instant reaction. 1
jackiemarie90 Posted February 16, 2018 Author Posted February 16, 2018 1 minute ago, Noboru Yamaguchi said: See, @jackiemarie90.....I see you lurking like a gherkin......I hit post and BAM, instant reaction. lol what, Idk I"m pretty sporatic. 1
TrigunBebop Posted February 16, 2018 Posted February 16, 2018 6 hours ago, jackiemarie90 said: Gah I forgot to mention that living in Cali is also great cause we got a lot weed, and it does help me calm down. As for internalizing everything, I should probably find some release in jogging again, been thinking about it, but haven't just done it yet. Venting to a close friend every now and then is another good option. Sometimes merely having someone listen to you can help more than anything you can do by yourself.
jackiemarie90 Posted February 16, 2018 Author Posted February 16, 2018 Just now, TrigunBebop said: Venting to a close friend every now and then is another good option. Sometimes merely having someone listen to you can help more than anything you can do by yourself. I guess that's why I'm posting back here again too. Idk I took an edible right now, so I'm good.
RPM Jr. Posted February 16, 2018 Posted February 16, 2018 Everybody lurks. Sometimes, everybody posts. Everybody lurks. >_> <_< Sometimes. 1
SwimModSponges Posted February 16, 2018 Posted February 16, 2018 8 hours ago, jackiemarie90 said: No he could have just said he was in to philosphy, mention what it was and thats it, the he started saying my beliefs were irrelevant, I think think that can make people a little irrated. Other than that, I'm actually madder at other things right now. Now really that badly upset about this. This is why I was an Iber, I liked the light heartness of it, never into pod 6 talk. I didnt intend to be a dick; i was probing your beliefs to allow you to examine them more closely, and wish the same from others for myself.
Lasty Posted February 16, 2018 Posted February 16, 2018 14 hours ago, SwimModSponges said: What is the opposite of a chair? What is the opposite of salt? What is the opposite of a dolphin? I think that salt is the opposite of a chair, a chair is the opposite of a dolphin and Barry Manilow is the opposite of salt.
SwimModSponges Posted February 16, 2018 Posted February 16, 2018 Strangely enough those are the correct answers.
Invida Posted February 16, 2018 Posted February 16, 2018 20 hours ago, katt_goddess said: I don't post a lot because I'm usually doing something else at the same time I'm on here. Like playing 'Bubble Witch 3' Or fighting with my computer chair that I swear is possessed by the spirit of slo-mo depression. Computer chairs are evil. I had one that was an axe murderer in a former life. Which is why I lurk so much. I am hiding from chairs.
Derackthehunter Posted February 16, 2018 Posted February 16, 2018 Then you gotta grab my attention. And go.
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