1938 Packard Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 An employer who deliberately creates an unsafe working condition that would inevitably lead to an injury... and ignore four years of corrective suggestions? It's too late for the employer to fix it now. The resulting injury is now medically documented. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginguy Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 It ain't payday for Packard, whatever it is.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1938 Packard Posted October 8, 2017 Author Share Posted October 8, 2017 It ain't payday for Packard, whatever it is.... The lawyer has already responded to my email and set up an appointment with me. He's got at least some interest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raptorpat Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 can you show it was deliberate, and more importantly, that they were put on notice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
André Toulon Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 He's probably blaming his COPD and IPF on the vacuum dust and chemicals....Then they will discover he's been smoking since the 50s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bnmjy Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 SSI lottery for packard. Congrats, I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1938 Packard Posted October 8, 2017 Author Share Posted October 8, 2017 can you show it was deliberate, and more importantly, that they were put on notice? The minutes are supposed to be on record at every meeting. Every meeting for the past four years, I have raised the same subject. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1938 Packard Posted October 8, 2017 Author Share Posted October 8, 2017 SSI lottery for packard. Congrats, I guess. SSI is means tested and is reserved for people who are disabled and do not have enough work credits for SSDI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schmahxgn Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 Negligence? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1938 Packard Posted October 8, 2017 Author Share Posted October 8, 2017 Negligence? Precisely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stilgar Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 I doubt you can blame your employer for your baldness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RPM Jr. Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 Lunch? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1938 Packard Posted October 8, 2017 Author Share Posted October 8, 2017 I doubt you can blame your employer for your baldness. Of course not. I'm a Q ball because I'm old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wacky1980 Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 An employer who deliberately creates an unsafe working condition that would inevitably lead to an injury i mean, what could your employer have possibly done to create an unsafe working environment? did he sharpen the top ends of the mop handles or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RPM Jr. Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 Of course not. I'm a Q ball because I'm old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1938 Packard Posted October 8, 2017 Author Share Posted October 8, 2017 i mean, what could your employer have possibly done to create an unsafe working environment? did he sharpen the top ends of the mop handles or something? Suffice it to say that my two herniated discs could have been prevented. The lifting action over the past four years was not necessary. Lighter material was both available and cost effective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wacky1980 Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 so they didn't create an unsafe environment, so much as they just didn't address an existing one. unsafe, according to you anyways. if employer changed procedure every time some pleb made an impotent demand, employer would have no time to actually govern their employees. maybe let the boss do their job, and you either do yours or quit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobdog Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 Suffice it to say that my two herniated discs could have been prevented. The lifting action over the past four years was not necessary. Lighter material was both available and cost effective. So you're the guy who whines every time he has to lift anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1938 Packard Posted October 8, 2017 Author Share Posted October 8, 2017 so they didn't create an unsafe environment, so much as they just didn't address an existing one. unsafe, according to you anyways. if employer changed procedure every time some pleb made an impotent demand, employer would have no time to actually govern their employees. maybe let the boss do their job, and you either do yours or quit? It was unsafe and now I have the injuries to prove it. The bosses had been warned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
André Toulon Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 LOL, pussy. Where was your precious union at to protect you from such arduous work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wacky1980 Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 the injuries to prove it, you say? so there's a specific day you can point to and say, this is where i slipped a disc? and it's been properly documented with employer? the best you'll get is a worker's comp claim and a few extra days being a sedentary fuck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1938 Packard Posted October 8, 2017 Author Share Posted October 8, 2017 LOL, pussy. Where was your precious union at to protect you from such arduous work. Unions aren't proactive in such matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1938 Packard Posted October 8, 2017 Author Share Posted October 8, 2017 the injuries to prove it, you say? so there's a specific day you can point to and say, this is where i slipped a disc? and it's been properly documented with employer? the best you'll get is a worker's comp claim and a few extra days being a sedentary fuck. Doc says there is no other possible cause. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
André Toulon Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 Unions aren't proactive in such matters. Damn, that's a shitty union. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
André Toulon Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 Doc says there is no other possible cause. Don't you live upstairs and own a lot of old, heavy shit you get from antique stores trashcans. A man of your age shouldn't be bounding in and out of dumpsters like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wacky1980 Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 Doc says there is no other possible cause. and this is when your "case" (or lack thereof) loses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1938 Packard Posted October 8, 2017 Author Share Posted October 8, 2017 Don't you live upstairs and own a lot of old, heavy shit you get from antique stores trashcans. A man of your age shouldn't be bounding in and out of dumpsters like that. Don't you live upstairs and own a lot of old, heavy shit you get from antique stores trashcans. A man of your age shouldn't be bounding in and out of dumpsters like that. The heavier things here are carried in by other people. Like, when I bought a dresser last summer, I paid the men extra to get it up the stairs. Since then, I had wheels installed on it in case I may need to move it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1938 Packard Posted October 8, 2017 Author Share Posted October 8, 2017 LOL, pussy... How many times a day can you lift eighty pounds over your head or push a four hundred pound dumpster up a steep ramp? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
death_by_motorboat Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 Most employers would not allow that to happen. I would call it lazy or risky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1938 Packard Posted October 8, 2017 Author Share Posted October 8, 2017 some pleb made an impotent demand... maybe let the boss do their job, and you either do yours or quit? Yes, I'm very well aware that the meetings are not a forum for making "impotent demands". I merely suggested that there is a safer and more practical method to getting the work done, provided that the materials being handled were lighter in weight. There is no difference in cost to the company for switching to the lighter material. As for "letting the bosses do their job", book keeping is hardly their only function. They also have an obligation both legally and morally to ensure work place safety. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
André Toulon Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 How many times a day can you lift eighty pounds over your head or push a four hundred pound dumpster up a steep ramp? As many as asked if that was my position....Fortunately, it's not. Perhaps you made a flaw in your lifetime syllabus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1938 Packard Posted October 8, 2017 Author Share Posted October 8, 2017 As many as asked if that was my position....Fortunately, it's not. Perhaps you made a flaw in your lifetime syllabus When lighter materials are both available and affordable, such action is not my job. I'm not a fire fighter or a pro football jock. This is their negligence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
death_by_motorboat Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 Most employers would not allow that to happen. I would call it lazy or risky But I must also add that some work sites are significantly dangerous and require skills and training such as grinders, choppers, conveyor safety, fork lift handling, material handling, and proper training on the specifics. You can claim negligence if a few of those bases were not covered at the same time. I.e. There was no training and your employer let it happen that you injured by something preventable that was well outside your normal training and the chain of command knows what the issue is from repeated complaints and it is the reason you were injured. If you can prove it then yes it's worth asking a lawyer, packard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1938 Packard Posted October 8, 2017 Author Share Posted October 8, 2017 Damn, that's a shitty union. That is shitty in such regard... traditionally locking the barn AFTER the horse has run off, in terms of taking any meaningful safety measures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobdog Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 How many times a day can you lift eighty pounds over your head or push a four hundred pound dumpster up a steep ramp? Hey Sisyphus, who knew hell would look like Jersey? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naraku360 Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 What would you call it? Another dumb, made up Packard story nobody cares about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1938 Packard Posted October 8, 2017 Author Share Posted October 8, 2017 Another dumb, made up Packard story nobody cares about. Except the lawyer who accepted my appointment in this matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naraku360 Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 Except the lawyer who accepted my appointment in this matter. Huh, I missed the part where anyone cares. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1938 Packard Posted October 8, 2017 Author Share Posted October 8, 2017 Huh, I missed the part where anyone cares. Apparently, the bosses are going to have to start caring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobdog Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 Apparently, the bosses are going to have to start caring. Nah, they'll just fire you for cause. I think all those unclaimed bags will finally be avenged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1938 Packard Posted October 8, 2017 Author Share Posted October 8, 2017 Nah, they'll just fire you for cause. I think all those unclaimed bags will finally be avenged. First, they have to find a valid cause. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobdog Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 First, they have to find a valid cause. Grand Theft will do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1938 Packard Posted October 8, 2017 Author Share Posted October 8, 2017 Grand Theft will do. Of what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wacky1980 Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 Except the lawyer who accepted my appointment in this matter. imagine that. packard found a lawyer who is willing to take his money. in jersey no less! case closed guys. we may as well start saving up now for the big payout in his favor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mthor Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 Except the lawyer who accepted my appointment in this matter. Is he working on contingency? And does he have that "the heavy hitters have done it again"" jingle in his commercial? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raptorpat Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 CALL 1-800-LAW-1010 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1938 Packard Posted October 8, 2017 Author Share Posted October 8, 2017 Is he working on contingency? And does he have that "the heavy hitters have done it again"" jingle in his commercial? If he's asking for any money up front, the case is probably not worth pursuing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginguy Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 Lemme guess, nothing up front and half of any settlement plus fees if he wins.... Dude, just tell your boss that the doctors don't want you doing any heavy lifting and go back to scrubbing toilets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raptorpat Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 Contingency fees are usually 1/3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1938 Packard Posted October 8, 2017 Author Share Posted October 8, 2017 Lemme guess, nothing up front and half of any settlement plus fees if he wins.... Dude, just tell your boss that the doctors don't want you doing any heavy lifting and go back to scrubbing toilets. 0.5 > 0.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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