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If you put half the effort into finding a job that you are trying to scam SSI you'd be employed by now....

I don't think she's scamming and it's not SSI it's SSD two different things -_'

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Maybe go for unemployment  instead, you'll lose your mind not working and unemployment is temp as well

Gonna do both. Gonna try to enjoy the time off and focus on writing and losing some weight.

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Hows it a scam? I really am bipolar. How would i already have a job..im not umemployed til the 30th. Shut up. Ignorant ass replies.

You are bipolar, but it's not preventing you from doing a job or getting a job, as you have admitted to being employed for 15 years. And it's not the reason you're losing your current job.

 

It's not a scam, but you can stop acting like you're morally in the right and not just trying to game the system.

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You are bipolar, but it's not preventing you from doing a job or getting a job, as you have admitted to being employed for 15 years. And it's not the reason you're losing your current job.

 

It's not a scam, but you can stop acting like you're morally in the right and not just trying to game the system.

 

ive had several medical leaves of abscense, fmla, and hospitalizations and its cost me jobs before. it def makes it hard to work and i take lots of mental health days....its been days where i have two decisions....slit my wrists or go to work...no in betweens

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ive had several medical leaves of abscense, fmla, and hospitalizations and its cost me jobs before. it def makes it hard to work and i take lots of mental health days....its been days where i have two decisions....slit my wrists or go to work...no in betweens

 

You're not talking about anything that any of the rest of us haven't put up with....I can't speak for anybody else, but I tried; at the time, I had a GAF of somewhere between 30 and 40, and I didn't get it.

 

Plus, you're not even out of work yet; when anybody checks your work history, they're going to laugh at you.

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You're not talking about anything that any of the rest of us haven't put up with....I can't speak for anybody else, but I tried; at the time, I had a GAF of somewhere between 30 and 40, and I didn't get it.

 

Plus, you'renot even out of work yet; when anyvbody checks your work history, they're going to laugh at you.

 

nah theyll see i cant be anywhere for long

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nah theyll see i cant be anywhere for long

 

It doesn't matter. you haven't lost this job because of your illness, you've been laid off, along with other coworkers.

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You know I'm not trying to be a bitch, I just don't want to see you count on it and then be disappointed. - and without an income.

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i m really suffering through this job tho...it was really bad at one point where i needed alcohol to sleep...but then it got better and the anxiety was not as bad....but im still very anxious and its still a very painful experience for me...to work...so im gonna try because the way i see it...its life or death.

 

i dont think everyone thinks of offing themselves every morning before work

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i dunno....im sorry but i dont find this to be a true disability....its not so debilitating that you cant work....i mean my mother is bipolar and she drives 18 wheelers

 

With all due respect, that is bullshit and it along with a variety of other severe mental disorders are recognized disabilities both legally and in school settings. They present specific problems to working in a variety of jobs, especially those in public. Also, there are many different levels of Bipolar individuals and some are more capable than others. This is without even considering the side effects of many medications used to treat the disorder, which also has a large variety of chemical interactions with individuals based on biology and genetics. Many times the side effects of treatment which are needed to keep people level from having paranoid delusions, attack others for random reasons, or having constant panic attacks, induce lethargy and inability to concentrate in addition to others. You aren't wrong in implying that all cases of bipolar do not prevent someone from holding continuous employment (which is why there is a process to determine if the individual is impaired), but it is certainly a disability.

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i m really suffering through this job tho...it was really bad at one point where i needed alcohol to sleep...but then it got better and the anxiety was not as bad....but im still very anxious and its still a very painful experience for me...to work...so im gonna try because the way i see it...its life or death.

 

i dont think everyone thinks of offing themselves every morning before work

 

If you do this, and I'm not saying you shouldn't apply cause I don't know enough about your individual circumstances, please do know that it is very very hard in many cases to get off of it. This is because the maximum amount of money that can be awarded is below the poverty line, but is enough to partially support someone that would otherwise become homeless or indigent. This makes it extremely difficult to find work that will pay at least enough for a full individual to live off of, let alone a child dependent. I have 1 semester left currently to finish my AS in Computer Science and have already been applying to various places that offer part time flexible work for those with disabilities that can cause them to be able to only work varying hours. It is very difficult to get a legitimate job in my field though having been unemployed for a couple of years now. They aren't legally allowed to discriminate but many will anyway regardless of qualifications. I do hope you get the help you need.

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her mom probably isnt even bipolar. people use the term too loosely and like to apply it to people just because they dont like them.

It's like "autistic."

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her mom probably isnt even bipolar. people use the term too loosely and like to apply it to people just because they dont like them.

 

I dunno if she is or isn't. Many people have bipolar symptoms but not the full blown disorder, and there are varying degrees of intensity to things such as mood swings, mood instability frequency, panic attacks, delusional paranoia, inappropriate emotional outbursts, and prolonged heightened anxiety. This doesn't even touch on mania and its various forms, though that tends to be more prevalent in Bipolar type 1 which is less common. The huge variations in ability to stay awake during periods that can stretch for days or weeks alone are enough to cause someone to be unable to work a normal job that doesn't have flexible or from home work hours. A lot of people do not understand how someone can be disabled with these types of mental disorders because they have inherent periods of erratic behavior mixed with periods of normal or at least acceptable behavior, both in terms of physical function and social interaction.

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My mother, for instance, claims to be bipolar, though she was never diagnosed, and I do think she has some symptoms because she is prone to depression and can be verbally or mentally abusive for seemingly no reason. I don't believe she has the full bipolar disorder, she is in terms of functional capacity way better in being able to handle stress, and does not endure constant heightened anxiety and depression or hypomania on a regular basis. I have no doubt that my mental problems come from her side of the family though, several people are insane or prone to strange unstable behaviors.

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nah theyll see i cant be anywhere for long

 

There is a long process in getting awarded disability, I have said this several times before to people that do not understand the process because they have no clue what it actually entails. It will not be easy for you to get awarded disability and will likely take 6 months to a year at least. You may also have to find a lawyer to present your case at a hearing or multiple if the judge decides inconclusive or more evidence is needed.

 

If you are serious about needing this type of help for interim financial stability, then I would suggest that you start to gather copies of any medical records regarding your mental illness and episodes relating to it. Especially those which are related to hospital visits or periods of absence from work due to your disability. You will also probably need to get letters to attest or to recommend that you need this type of assistance currently from a doctor/doctors and therapists. Particularly a statement from a psychiatrist that has treated you will help in this great, and is required usually during the specialist review process that has to be conducted before a court hearing.

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My mother, for instance, claims to be bipolar, though she was never diagnosed, and I do think she has some symptoms because she is prone to depression and can be verbally or mentally abusive for seemingly no reason. I don't believe she has the full bipolar disorder, she is in terms of functional capacity way better in being able to handle stress, and does not endure constant heightened anxiety and depression or hypomania on a regular basis. I have no doubt that my mental problems come from her side of the family though, several people are insane or prone to strange unstable behaviors.

Unfortunately, one of the the down sides of the internet and webmd is that a lot of people diagnose themselves with things they don't have, so don't seek a real diagnosis or the ensuing proper treatment.

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im surprised that...youre what? into your 40's right? that you dont know that....if you go on unemployment, or disability and then you get a job....YOU OWE THAT MONEY BACK....they take it back from you in your tax returns

 

This is absolutely not true, they will only fine an individual that does not properly report their income. Both programs require this and have benefit reduction policies based on the amount of work an individual is currently performing. The rules for SSDI are slightly less stringent than those for SSI, but they have similar qualifiers. If you are above substantial gainful activity and are not reporting while drawing disability (SSDI or SSI) then you will be in trouble and they will very much fine you and will possibly put you in jail depending on what occurred.

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Unfortunately, one of the the down sides of the internet and webmd is that a lot of people diagnose themselves with things they don't have, so don't seek a real diagnosis or the ensuing proper treatment.

 

Part of my OCD includes hypochondriasis and contamination paranoia, and so I have made it a point to block such websites on multiple different blockers on my web browser so that I have to manually undo them in order to view anything on sites like webmd. It was bad enough at one point that I was convinced I had AIDs (this was back when I hadn't even had any form of penetrative sex mind you), and a variety of other things such as melanoma skin cancer. This type of issue caused me to go into a prolonged state of hyper vigilance cause heart palpitations and suicidal ideation, as I was awake for almost 2 weeks with nothing but micro-sleeps (which is literally brief moments of unconsciousness due to extreme sleep deprivation for prolonged periods). This is a large part of what led to my first hospitalization back many years ago when I was first diagnosed. It was scary as fuck for me, I was a sheltered kid and knew very little about mental illness other than the stigma I had been taught in the rather close minded culture I grew up in.

 

People that say that these types of things don't constitute disabilities or are being used to scam are ignorant of what actual mental illness is, and are very uninformed about what it can cause and how difficult it is in many cases to receive adequate treatment. I was at the therapists office a few days ago, and had to over hear this poor man who was obviously a war vet from Vietnam talking out loud in frustrated tones in the middle of the office about how the doctors weren't listening to him and that he was having panic attacks for severe PTSD and had been trying to get stable help for several years after losing health insurance and his job.

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you probably have enough quarters of employment to get SSD but when it comes to psychiatric diagnoses it's a bit difficult, from my understanding there has to be two of them

 

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It is definitely more difficult, but you don't have to have concurrent disorders. You just have to make a sufficient case that you are unable to hold steady (meaning a regular work hour job or salaried position) in you realm of qualifications directly due to the symptoms of a severe mental illness. This is the hard part, and in mental illness cases, they typically require quite a bit of evidence as they are obviously not visibly identifiable in most people, especially during short hearings. This usually means presenting a large body of medical records indicating a pattern of persistent issues that would interfere currently or have interfered in the past with your ability to hold said types of positions.

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im not being retarded....you are...i know that its something you can 'get paid for' (which is a fucked up thing to say considering we all know you just wanna try to game the system)...but im talking about me personally...i dont feel that its debilitating enough to even be considered worth paying for

 

Thank god we have actual medical doctors and judges with years of bench and legal experience to make those decisions instead of you, and other ill-informed busy bodies that spout shit out the sides of their mouth.

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sorry for my tongue in cheek tone. i know its very serious. its just my way of handling it but all this is really life or death for me. i dont think im getting enough help and i still suffer quite a bit even tho im working. if i didn't work i could have a chance to finally face my problems instead of just carrying the burden and living a shitty half life.

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they dont have to know that ?

You do know they can, and probably will, look into why your employment ended and if they find out it was something other than the stated reason it can very quickly make your situation much worse, right?

 

 

 

Right? :|

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You do know they can, and probably will, look into why your employment ended and if they find out it was something other than the stated reason it can very quickly make your situation much worse, right?

 

 

 

Right? :|

 

nah

plus mental illness wasnt the official reason for leaving any job... just a big underlyer... like i have zero ability to deal with shitty people. just being in the same room with my last tmobile manager made me and a lot of other people upset. one dood actually killed himself.

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sorry for my tongue in cheek tone. i know its very serious. its just my way of handling it but all this is really life or death for me. i dont think im getting enough help and i still suffer quite a bit even tho im working. if i didn't work i could have a chance to finally face my problems instead of just carrying the burden and living a shitty half life.

 

You don't need to apologize for making a few jokes in order to lighten the dull grim reality of the situation, I do this all the time with things that are uncomfortable for me to talk about. The only reason I gave serious responses in here is that people with axes to grind started to show up spouting horse shit about things they aren't educated about and have no direct experience with. They also clearly can't give someone slack that is hurting, because they are malicious vile people that just have an innate urge to put others down that they see as a vulnerable target so they can feel internally superior about their own smaller issues.

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You don't need to apologize for making a few jokes in order to lighten the dull grim reality of the situation, I do this all the time with things that are uncomfortable for me to talk about. The only reason I gave serious responses in here is that people with axes to grind started to show up spouting horse shit about things they aren't educated about and have no direct experience with. They also clearly can't give someone slack that is hurting, because they are malicious vile people that just have an innate urge to put others down that they see as a vulnerable target so they can feel internally superior about their own smaller issues.

 

thank you. i hate it when you cant be here.

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I mean seriously if anyone else made a light hearted thread about such a sad topic like being laid off because of corporate inconvenience and lamenting the inability to find applicable work because of long-term mental disorder I doubt there would be so many eagerly jumping into said thread to shit all over the poster because they were making a few cracks.

 

People that claim that Fuggs isn't being systematically harassed on this board have pretty much shoved their foot in their mouth in here for the first 5 pages of this thread which is basically nothing but trying to take a glorified holier-than-thou shit on someone in a bad place currently. Really despicable, and I definitely was here this time to witness said behavior and the next time said people start parroting shit about how she lies about the amount of vitriolic hate she receives then I'll be sure to quote some ignorant posts from this little piece of gold.

 

This is the type of human indecency and hypocrisy I really hate the worst.

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Oh so you feel it's owed to you because you fake an illness?

 

i missed this post.

 

yah im faking it so much im on 3 different meds, light therapy and have been hospitalized.  fuck right the fuck off prick

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doesn't unemployment also really not give all that much money. i forget how much it is here but it's basically pocket change

 

itll be enough to keep my car and thats it. cutting off cable and phone.

 

ill find something soon. 1st interview wednesday.

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I mean seriously if anyone else made a light hearted thread about such a sad topic like being laid off because of corporate inconvenience and lamenting the inability to find applicable work because of long-term mental disorder I doubt there would be so many eagerly jumping into said thread to shit all over the poster because they were making a few cracks.

 

People that claim that Fuggs isn't being systematically harassed on this board have pretty much shoved their foot in their mouth in here for the first 5 pages of this thread which is basically nothing but trying to take a glorified holier-than-thou shit on someone in a bad place currently. Really despicable, and I definitely was here this time to witness said behavior and the next time said people start parroting shit about how she lies about the amount of vitriolic hate she receives then I'll be sure to quote some ignorant posts from this little piece of gold.

 

This is the type of human indecency and hypocrisy I really hate the worst.

 

Do people really claim that Fuggz doesn't get bullied? I think the consensus is that, besides from a few people, she doesn't get any more than she already has coming.

 

The people that were in Babbling know her as the woman who tricked a college boy into getting her pregnant and asking for child support after she said she support the child on her own. We see her as the woman that shoves 20 (30?) Klonopin in her gullet, then posts a picture to flaunt her drug abuse. And much more recently, suggested that instead of abusing her drugs, she would just sell them on the street.

 

You see it as "a few cracks" as someone who is only occasionally here and misses all her bullshit. The rest of us see it as yet another deplorable action that she feels the need to brag about for some reason.

 

You can shame folks on here all you like, but she didn't make her bed any less that they did.

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Do people really claim that Fuggz doesn't get bullied? I think the consensus is that, besides from a few people, she doesn't get any more than she already has coming.

 

The people that were in Babbling know her as the woman who tricked a college boy into getting her pregnant and asking for child support after she said she support the child on her own. We see her as the woman that shoves 20 (30?) Klonopin in her gullet, then posts a picture to flaunt her drug abuse. And much more recently, suggested that instead of abusing her drugs, she would just sell them on the street.

 

You see it as "a few cracks" as someone who is only occasionally here and misses all her bullshit. The rest of us see it as yet another deplorable action that she feels the need to brag about for some reason.

 

You can shame folks on here all you like, but she didn't make her bed any less that they did.

 

i addressed all those things several times but you want to present them as buddy does ....as half truths and very negative.

 

i am not capable of tricking anyone into getting me pregnant.  we never discussed birth control. when i told him i was pregnant he honestly thought he couldnt get anyone pregnant because he had issues with veins down there. and why shouldn't he support his own child?

 

now if i reailly abused drugs and took 30 daily HOW THE HELL would i have any left to sell?

 

i joked about selling them because they lost  all effect on me. JOKED.

 

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Do people really claim that Fuggz doesn't get bullied? I think the consensus is that, besides from a few people, she doesn't get any more than she already has coming.

 

The people that were in Babbling know her as the woman who tricked a college boy into getting her pregnant and asking for child support after she said she support the child on her own. We see her as the woman that shoves 20 (30?) Klonopin in her gullet, then posts a picture to flaunt her drug abuse. And much more recently, suggested that instead of abusing her drugs, she would just sell them on the street.

 

You see it as "a few cracks" as someone who is only occasionally here and misses all her bullshit. The rest of us see it as yet another deplorable action that she feels the need to brag about for some reason.

 

You can shame folks on here all you like, but she didn't make her bed any less that they did.

 

You should feel ashamed, even if those things are true what makes you think its ok to go around shitting on people because they have a mental illness like that? Something you clearly know nothing about, along with most of the other people that posted out their ass saying completely untrue things. She gets a lot of harassment, a lot. I have seen that much, I really don't care why you are harassing her, but it's not right especially over having a mental illness. And that thread you referenced about the Klonopin, I briefly saw it, I don't think that was even meant to be taken seriously. You guys blow things way out of proportion and then use it to say disgusting shit like calling her an SSA scammer and shiting all over her for having bipolar disorder.

 

So yes you should feel bad, you should feel bad and refrain from making more statements disparaging people that suffer from mental illness.

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i addressed all those things several times but you want to present them as buddy does ....as half truths and very negative.

 

i am not capable of tricking anyone into getting me pregnant.  we never discussed birth control. when i told him i was pregnant he honestly thought he couldnt get anyone pregnant because he had issues with veins down there. and why shouldn't he support his own child?

 

now if i reailly abused drugs and took 30 daily HOW THE HELL would i have any left to sell?

 

i joked about selling them because they lost  all effect on me. JOKED.

 

If you were taking 30 Klonopin a day then or even once all at the same time, you'd likely be dead. So this is yet another piece of exaggerated bullshit someone is posting just to pick on you. I think we've clearly established in this thread that they don't give a shit and that they admit to thinking that you "have it coming" to quote the previous response.

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doesn't unemployment also really not give all that much money. i forget how much it is here but it's basically pocket change

 

It is a small amount, it is meant as a stop gap measure to help people who are unable to work because of disability from becoming homeless or losing access to medications.


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