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The guides were all wrong. Not many people knew the new episode was at 11:30. They assumed it was a rerun. Plus people's DVRs recorded the wrong episode as well.

Do you suppose Toonami can do anything to break out of this cycle or is it just a sign of the times?

Yeah that makes sense because it's a double "premiere " if you didn't catch it in April. The next week will be interesting because they'll only have one season 3 episode to encore . So we may be down a Rick the next week!

It's not going to help right away for sure. Only a few 8:00 viewers will catch on at first and make the switch right away. I believe the next thing to change will be one of the rick and Morty's. After encoding the double premiere, they should just stick to encoring Sunday's new episode instead of rerunning more episodes from seasons 1/2. After this run hopefully they'll rest Jack. It's also possible that we lose 8:00 in September/October. Lastly, they should replace Venture Brothes or put it earlier since it's hurting Family Guy, which hurts Toonami.

Plus as long as the show airs at 8 for kids to see, does it matter if it's a premiere? Now we'll know whether or not it was the two airings or do people just not like this show! All they have to do now is put American Dad in place of one of the Ricks and Venture and we're all set!

I'm curious if there were people who only watched at 8 that won't find the 11:30, assume there's just a rerun this week, and then come back to 8 the following week for their "new episode".

Just because it can change at anytime, but it is the most current schedule. Looks like they are tweaking the Saturday schedule bit by it until things are at an acceptable level. Wonder what took so long ?

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I am not expecting Jojo to do any better than Titan. Remember, we were all hoping Titan would get us out of the rut with retention caused by the first season of Jojo! It doesn't help that AS is going to wait until the last minute to promote it despite the fact that the promo has been in the can since the beginning of the month. EDIT: Jason Demarco says the promo has been running this week. Has anyone seen it on air?

Wow that's pretty low! I didn't see that ! Who are the other 300,000 people? Kids ? Or older people?

Looking back over the last year of ratings it's obvious that we are seeing lower numbers mostly due to the lead ins going from Bobs Burgers and American Dad to Samurai Jack, Rick and Morty , and Venture Bros. Family Guy rises a bit but if it can barely hold a million Toonami doesn't stand a chance. However, from AS point of view, they are spending less money over all on Saturday so maybe it offsets things. It is kind of sad that Toonami relies so much on the FOX shows doing well. But it's possible that we had inflated numbers because of it. That combined with the decline in cable puts us where we are now. I don't think Toonami is doing anything wrong other than the Super situation. However, even THAT was doing 1.2-1.3 when led in by pure FOX. What we are seeing here is more the pure dedicated Toonami audience and less of the casuals who hang around after FOX shows. This is the audience that AS can count on week after week and sell to advertisers!

Maybe TOEI needs to understand that Dragonball does better in the US with young adults vs young children? And that 8pm on a Saturday is a bad place to premiere anything. The DVR ratings for 8pm Super are probably great as well. It just does Toonami no favors. Who would've thought that with a lineup of Super, Buu Kai, Titan broadcast dub, Jojo on the horizon, we'd be having this issue.

Ha ha I get it. Seriously though Toonami needs to somehow convince TOEI that having it premere at 11:30 is better for the show.

Maybe trying Super on another night would be good but I think Toonami would be scared st the prospect of having no Dragonball next year. It was a bad deal plain and simple. TOEI only cares about how Super does and not how it affects the rest of yhe night. AS seems to be playing cheap with Saturdays with FG the only thing that's not an original. Venture in prime time though never seems to work and that's brining things down a bit. I don't think this is really Toonami's fault. If it was KOTH, AD, and FG before. We'd be back to where we were before adjusted for cable deflation! After 8/4s encore of the Rick premiere we shouldn't need two slots for it anymore. Just one for an encore of Sunday's episode should suffice.

All that is true , but then again we have bigger problems with the lineup when Family Guy at 11:30 does just shy over a million.

A lot of people thought they should have a simuldub for Super, but it's a TOEI show. They don't have full control of how it's released

The people over on the Kanzenshuu forums seem to think that Toonami only has exclusivity to the first 26 episodes and any day now Funimation is going to make an announcement about putting out episodes dubbed on FunimationNow ahead of Toonami because DBZKTFC came out so fast. They said they don't want to have to rely on Toonami's release schedule anymore to see it. Man are people impatient these days

Yeah and unfortunately Toonami depends on how well Family Guy does

Toonami does not have as strong lead ins as before. Venture and Rock are never going to do as well as 2 hours of Bobs and American Dad. That plays a huge factor where the night starts viewerwise

That would be nice, but I'm predicting more of the same type of ratings at 12:30. We'll see though, they need to really hammer home that this is a whole different, largely episodic, more modern, no funny accent Jojo that has a good mix between humor and action.

They'll still run marathons as long as they cost next to nothing. Movies of course unless it's given to them cost too much for a 1 time airing.

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Yeah I forgot about that one. What's interesting though if you watch the ads during the shows, it's primarily fast food, video games, shaving stuff, ect... There really is no secret who AS is really targeting. As far as Lupin goes, I think this was purely put on out of love for the show. The crew loves Lupin . I asked Demarco on ask about a year ago if he thought Lupin failed on AS and he attributed it to primarily the age of the show. So I'm sure someone thought a newer Lupin would do better. At 2am, it can't really do much damage. Since they don't seem keen on moving HxH, I would love for 2AM to be used for things that are a little niche or older.

But apparently, It CAN still be sold on iTunes along with Symbiotic-Titian!

Do you think Toonami has a female viewer problem? It just kind of dawned on me that the lineup we had in 2015 (KLK,SAO,M+H, AKG) had a lot of girl power and shows that appealed to both genders. I'd say for sure now that Toonami has primarily shows that appeal more towards a male base. Could be this is who they are after though I suppose. Doctor Who's problem is the timeslot.Not a lot of people home at 9:00 PM on a Saturday. I believe it is a heavily DVR'd show. This is what I would point to when people insist that Toonam's main issue is "That it's on so late!". It would actually do worse earlier and would get murdered by competition in the desired demographic.