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Looks like we are back to the "We only promote things that are already doing well " school of thought. What is this, ASA? The way they see it is that if something isn't doing great, the last thing you want to do is sink more money into it. Self fufilling profecy because the less you promote something the worse it'll do. JJBASC really needed more promotion than it got to drive home that this wasn't the same Jojo as before. Demarco thinks they ran the promo 2 weeks out, but I don't think it did. At a minimum, the current lineup promo should always be running. Of course we saw a Rick and Morty promo during every break of Toonami last night. Like that show needs more help.

Did they go back to using the previous bumpers for this?

What exactly is a ratings point for 18-34 this year and where would you get that information.

So do you think One Piece leaving was a mistake because it took away some of Toonami's identity?

Off topic: but I predict that AOT S2 will be replaced by FLCL s1 If we get a Labor Day and Halloween Marathon, it should end October 21 Assuming we get Thanksgiving off and the 2 weeks at the end of the year, that leaves 6 more Toonami's! That would fit perfectly

That's cool ! Do you know of any more sites with old ratings? Again this is why we should only really emphasize the 18-34 ratings since that's what they seem to care about

Hey that's where I live! Another good reason not to come here is it'll still be 95 degrees everyday in September! That aside, this Outlaw Star thing may open the door to getting some older stuff in the 2am hour. Funimation owns so much now, I'm sure they can work out a favorable deal. You know what they should get next? A show that they wanted a long time ago :Escaflowne!

In the manga, Krillin casually is seen sniffing the diamond in the background! Love OG Krillin!

Ideally they'd run Dad at 10 and FG at 11. That's what we had for most of 2015. Seems strange they all of a sudden can't. There isn't more on weekdays than there usually is.

Please put Big O or Bebop at 3:30! We'll all pretend it's 2001 again.

Well said! Dragonball aside, the block right now has a lot of niche content that the crew personally likes but isn't a hit with casual viewers. They need to find shows that hit well with non anime fans both male and female. 2015 had those types of shows. Right now we have a bit of a boys club of niche content. I do suspect also that our once popular lead in, Family Guy, is losing steam. Other things that were popular such as Ghoul have past their hype time but may have done really well 2 years ago. That is definitely back if the block content not 12:30 material.

This is why Toonami did better in 2015/early 2016. 11pm is too competitive plus Family Guy always does better at 11.

They really should try and find something that is starting to get big in Japan and jump on it. Take a chance on something. Do the research and not rely on a tumblr/Facebook request. Sometimes by the time Toonami gets to the party, fans have had their fill of it. The time for Mob was last year /early this year. The dub has already streamed and I don't think it's the kind of thing that's people are going to go nuts over. I'm worried too that any new fans OPM created will just watch the sub when that comes out similar to Titan

Supers potential is being wasted because of the rerun status. That and it being at 11 following a weaker Family Guy limits what it can do. There also isn't as much hype for this series compared to people reliving their childhoods with Kai!

I think it would be in the range of a million if it was only at 11. The problem is that Family Guy does worse in the 10pm hour so it won't be as high if it was st 11:30 or midnight. Some people who watch at 8 won't stay up, but their would be a modest gain for sure. Weird thing this week: the 8pm rerun actually outraged the 8:30 premiere.

Daos said it right. There is an issue with the programming. These shows just aren't appealing to a wide audience. That's our main issue.

Some people don't even care if it's in English. Just the sub being readily available can hinder viewership. It's a tricky time we live in.

I think Jojo has a place on the block, but further down. We can't have numbers like this in the 12am hour for a whole year. Personally I think they went the wrong direction and the block should be at midnight again with 10pm American Dad and 11pm Family Guy to at least give it a decent start. Next, they need to stop letting TOEI program the night.

Yeah it was requested back in 2015 originally. At the Momocon panel, Jason remarked at how people were still requesting more Jojo even as they were airing it.

There was a promo, but I only saw it on Facebook Saturday night. Too late

Maybe, but we've seen a downward trend over the last year and their have been several schedule changes this month to indicate thstvthey aren't exactly thrilled with the numbers.

I know it's not exactly the same thing, I was just making the point that when you put something on TV that people are excited about then you will get the viewers. Rick and Morty is like Jack though in the aspect that not a lot of people hung around for the shows after it. Jojo despite being heavily requested and being at "the part" that people like does not get the viewers excited to bring them in. Super has its split viewer problem but at this point I think a premiere would only bring modest gains to the rest of the block as DB fans go away as soon as their show is over if they aren't into what's next. I'm sure they'll give it the month of August, but I don't think Jojo is going to cut it there for a whole year. I'd love to be wrong about that. Gundam coming back in October isn't really going to help much either. They really need to rethink their approach about what to pick up moving foward. Requests are not going to always yield good results.

People ditching cable doesn't stop Rick and Morty from getting almost 3 million viewers. People just aren't excited about Toonami anymore. Or they aren't generating enough hype themselves

At this point, I just hope they finish the shows they have.

Maybe, but all the crazy action happens on Saturday night! I wish they could've given 11:30 Super premieres more of a chance. I seriously hate TOEI