Daos Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 The anime bombed so hard it got the Manga canceled. "I’m very sorry to write this but the timeline was not on my side. You see, the editor came to me last week and informed myself to increase the popularity of Keijo!!! This is not something you can do overnight. I was lost for words, as I believed we were doing fine in rankings. Today, I was informed by my editor that my manga is being removed due to the poor reception of the anime. The anime failed to make an impact, for advertising purposes, and the studio is carrying that loss because of it. It is my fault, and I am sorry. The source material should have been better and I’ve done a great burden. I was actually very surprised by the reception overseas. In various conversations, I was told it was greatly talked about in America. I’m glad some of you enjoyed it, but I’m sorry once again for failing. My sincerely apologies to Takahashi-san and XEBEC.” I can't imagine how an anime/manga with such an awesome concept could go belly up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarPanda Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 What's keijo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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StarPanda Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 Oh the butt anime yeah never saw it, but I sure did hear alot of people talk about it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The1gairon Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 Don't look at me! I didn't even WATCH the--OOOoooooh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OwlChemist81 Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 To be fair, it was pretty popular over here. It was even dubbed on FUNimation NOW! Hell, if you have a subscription, you can still watch it! https://www.funimation.com/shows/keijo/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sketch Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 Well I watched it twice legally so I don't know what more I could have done without the manga being available here and the BD release being a ways off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainStarwind Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 The fuck? Stuff like this almost never gets cancelled. And even if the anime bombed, I can see them not doing another anime series, but the MANGA being cancelled from it as well? Jesus, the anime must have bombed HARD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daos Posted April 22, 2017 Author Share Posted April 22, 2017 The fuck? Stuff like this almost never gets cancelled. And even if the anime bombed, I can see them not doing another anime series, but the MANGA being cancelled from it as well? Jesus, the anime must have bombed HARD. Long story short, Japan fucking hated it. The DvD sold like 750 copies per volume for a total of about 3750. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainStarwind Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 Long story short, Japan fucking hated it. The DvD sold like 750 copies per volume for a total of about 3750. Oh God, that's fucking painful. And I don't get it, either. I really didn't find it all that bad. Although I do have to wonder if this says more about Japan or more about America. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokeNirvash Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 While the manga getting canned is sad and Japan's hatred of it is honestly debatable, this thread is unfit for the Toonami sub-board. [shame] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 Well there was that one card where Adult Swim actively told people to watch Toonami stuff instead of Keijo to save anime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokeNirvash Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 Okay, that is kinda true. And eerily prophetic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The1gairon Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 Sadly, an anime being successful in America means almost buttkiss to Japan because most of the American sales go to the American companies instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OwlChemist81 Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 Yeah, just look up Deadman Wonderland for another example of that! And that WAS a Toonami show with a semi-successful manga which will probably never get a 2nd season despite selling pretty well over here, as its sales SUCKED in Japan! You might even say that we know how to market action shows better than Japan--so maybe what action anime needs is a "Toonami Japan" block?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The1gairon Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 Japan actually has its own Toonami-branded block but they show mostly American action cartoons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben0119 Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 Long story short, Japan fucking hated it. The DvD sold like 750 copies per volume for a total of about 3750. In a more just alternate universe, this happened to Hiatus instead. Maybe it's time to enlist Quinn Mallory. Anyway, this is yet another case of something taking off in America but but not doing so well in its home country, like Deadman Wonderland, Trigun, Watanabe, etc. Hard to believe an ecchi show bombed though. But yeah I never did get around to checking it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben0119 Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 Yeah, just look up Deadman Wonderland for another example of that! And that WAS a Toonami show with a semi-successful manga which will probably never get a 2nd season despite selling pretty well over here, as its sales SUCKED in Japan! You might even say that we know how to market action shows better than Japan--so maybe what action anime needs is a "Toonami Japan" block?? I thought the Trigun movie was made mostly because of non-Japanese fans. God damn it Alchemist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben0119 Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 Japan actually has its own Toonami-branded block but they show mostly American action cartoons. *Tim Allen inquisitive grunt* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokeNirvash Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 In a more just alternate universe, this happened to Hiatus instead. We get it, you hate HxH, shut the fuck up about it already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben0119 Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 We get it, you hate HxH, shut the fuck up about it already. I DO WHAT I WANT! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gyaos Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 So....an over-sexualized, uncreative, unimaginative anime was cancelled because it couldn't sell its stock of fucking DVD's/Blu-Rays? Cry me a river. That crap makes me feel uber uncomfortable anyway. Same with Kampfer, Bakemonogatari and the other garbage that's been recommended to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmpressAngel Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 If you can't sell a "school girls bounce around a vague plot" show in fucking Japan of all places, you deserve to fail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasqueradeOverture Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 This is why the anime industry is in trouble. Too many cheesecake / weeb pandering shows that appeal to a horny niche instead of spending resources on stuff with wide appeal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The1gairon Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 The fact that an ecchi show can't succeed in Japan baffled me. It's like most of their anime production right now, and has been for years! So why NOW of all times is something like this failing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daos Posted April 24, 2017 Author Share Posted April 24, 2017 The fact that an ecchi show can't succeed in Japan baffled me. It's like most of their anime production right now, and has been for years! So why NOW of all times is something like this failing? I only watched one episode. It definitely didn't overcome its ridiculously stupid premise and get me to watch more. I think that it being about a fictional sport hurt it. I'd say the fact that it had no male MC and no harem antics probably was a killer. Also look at this episode description. "Nozomi faces Kotone in the class-change race, who dodges all attacks while having her back turned, and chases Nozomi using Cerberus, a move where a ghostly image of a dog is manifested from her buttocks. The two collide, and Nozomi wins, as the running around had charged her vacuum butt cannon move. Nozomi and her roommates all advance to the elite class; Kazane, despite losing, had performed well and cornered Mio, which was why Mio used hypnosis, a move she was banned from using. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 ...You know how a show like Sekirei can have metric tons of fanservice but grounds itself with likable characters and the boobs feel more like a side dish than the only thing the show has to offer? Keijo...doesn't have anything but assess. Literally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben0119 Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 So....an over-sexualized, uncreative, unimaginative anime was cancelled because it couldn't sell its stock of fucking DVD's/Blu-Rays? Cry me a river. That crap makes me feel uber uncomfortable anyway. Same with Kampfer, Bakemonogatari and the other garbage that's been recommended to me. You'll be sad again when you find out what dethroned One Piece in Japan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben0119 Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 This is why the anime industry is in trouble. Too many cheesecake / weeb pandering shows that appeal to a horny niche instead of spending resources on stuff with wide appeal. I was right! The collapse of the anime industry continues! All because of this moe/ecchi/harem bullshit! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daos Posted April 27, 2017 Author Share Posted April 27, 2017 So the rumors weren't super accurate. http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2017/04/26-1/keijo-author-sets-the-record-straight-about-mangas-ending Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misaka Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 I was right! The collapse of the anime industry continues! All because of this moe/ecchi/harem bullshit! Wrong http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2017-04-26/keijo-manga-creator-explains-cancellation/.115353 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The1gairon Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 So the rumors weren't super accurate. http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2017/04/26-1/keijo-author-sets-the-record-straight-about-mangas-ending Okay then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapinator_X Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 That's a shame that he was pressured to cut the cord even before the anime released. It was a fun concept, but too eccentric for the general audience when they've been on more of an isekai/light novel kick lately. His publishers also dicked with him by refusing to promote his work or get him enough assistants for him not to pass out from exhaustion. Judging from the situation, it seemed like the anime gave him just enough legroom to end the manga without it being abruptly cut off by the publisher or karoshi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daos Posted April 27, 2017 Author Share Posted April 27, 2017 That's a shame that he was pressured to cut the cord even before the anime released. It was a fun concept, but too eccentric for the general audience when they've been on more of an isekai/light novel kick lately. His publishers also dicked with him by refusing to promote his work or get him enough assistants for him not to pass out from exhaustion. Judging from the situation, it seemed like the anime gave him just enough legroom to end the manga without it being abruptly cut off by the publisher or karoshi. Japanese love sports themed anime. The problem here... is this wasn't a real sport so it had no built in fanbase. So that was the first thing working against it. The second was no male MC, so no harem type antics or relationship drama going on and lets face it that's a big deal in lighthearted anime like this. And from what people are saying it wasn't particularly compelling plot wise either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The1gairon Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 Man all that sounds brutal, unjust, and just tiring, withering the body away out of exhaustion. And they didn't allow him to find an assistant!? Why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The1gairon Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 The second was no male MC, so no harem type antics or relationship drama going on and lets face it that's a big deal in lighthearted anime like this. I thought we're SICK of the "harem cast with only 1 main male character", but then again, we're not part of the Japanese demographic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mochi Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 The anime bombed so hard it got the Manga canceled. "I’m very sorry to write this but the timeline was not on my side. You see, the editor came to me last week and informed myself to increase the popularity of Keijo!!! This is not something you can do overnight. I was lost for words, as I believed we were doing fine in rankings. Today, I was informed by my editor that my manga is being removed due to the poor reception of the anime. The anime failed to make an impact, for advertising purposes, and the studio is carrying that loss because of it. It is my fault, and I am sorry. The source material should have been better and I’ve done a great burden. I was actually very surprised by the reception overseas. In various conversations, I was told it was greatly talked about in America. I’m glad some of you enjoyed it, but I’m sorry once again for failing. My sincerely apologies to Takahashi-san and XEBEC.” I can't imagine how an anime/manga with such an awesome concept could go belly up. there was nothing in it worth watching at least not to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapinator_X Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 Japanese love sports themed anime. The problem here... is this wasn't a real sport so it had no built in fanbase. So that was the first thing working against it. The second was no male MC, so no harem type antics or relationship drama going on and lets face it that's a big deal in lighthearted anime like this. And from what people are saying it wasn't particularly compelling plot wise either. The main appeal for sports anime either comes from the fujoshi who want to see male bonding, or a more serious show if it must involve women. Keijo's concept was too eccentric to fit either bill. It wanted to be ecchi, but it also wanted to be taken seriously, and that can be kryptonite for a big dumb show. The male MC point works against it on an ecchi format, cause guys who are watching fanservice anime like to have a blank slate avatar for them to imagine themselves in their scenario. Keijo didn't offer that to them, and was coasting off of the hope that they would be able to enjoy it for the titillation/plot without having to feel personally involved in it. The last point is subjective though. It was a fun series that was amusing to watch and easy on the eyes. If a plot being compelling is a litmus test on sales, then there's alot of uncompelling plots that shouldn't be selling nearly as much as they are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daos Posted April 27, 2017 Author Share Posted April 27, 2017 there was nothing in it worth watching at least not to me Apparently that quote was either mistranslated or made by an imposter, as the author now says the anime sucking did not get the manga cancelled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The1gairon Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 The male MC point works against it on an ecchi format, cause guys who are watching fanservice anime like to have a blank slate avatar for them to imagine themselves in their scenario. Keijo didn't offer that to them, and was coasting off of the hope that they would be able to enjoy it for the titillation/plot without having to feel personally involved in it. This seems to fail in manga/light novel/anime in general. If you want male audiences to project themselves into the story, DO NOT portray their character as NOT a character! They tried to do this by adapting the Kancolle game, which has no real story, into an anime, by portraying the Admiral as a silent, off-screen, mysterious presence- the anime wasn't successful enough to have a continuation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokeNirvash Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 Let's be real here, Elfie. No one was watching KanColle for this "Admiral" dude. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapinator_X Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 I watched Kancolle for Kongou and Poi, but ended up dropping it because it got boring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daos Posted May 2, 2017 Author Share Posted May 2, 2017 If the author is to be believed, it was actually doing well in Japan, and was popular on Crunchyroll. http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-feature/2017/05/01-1/feature-found-in-translation-the-reason-why-the-keijo-manga-ended Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnimationFan14 Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 Perhaps the show just wasn't all it was Cracked up to be Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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