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2 hours ago, katt_goddess said:

Here's the thing - Biden really can tell Netanyahu to blow it out his tailpipe and pull all but the most basic of support for the rest of the year. Harris only has to say as President she'd be revisiting sending bombs to Israel and you'd have it both ways. 

Netanyahu better learn to grovel real quick.  I'm sure he's going to reschedule a meeting with Trump so the trip isn't a waste.  Lol

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It may not have been Mossad after all. Initial reports are claiming this was actually an airstrike.

Which if true, is an even bigger deal than first thought. That would mean that the IDF was able to fly undetected into Iran, fly into the capital, hit their target, and get out without Iran having any response.

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Totally missed that earlier to. Israel also got the leader of Hezbollah earlier today. He was also wanted by the US for killing over 200 of our service members, and more than 50 French, in the barracks bombing.


This is one of the greatest days in the fight against terrorism in an extremely long time, if not ever.

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So...a few days after a playground gets hit, they were able to surgically strike three high level targets without flattening the entire landscape. 

And yet, they are still bombing the ever loving shit out of refugee camps in Gaza 'safe zones' because there's a terrorist in there somewhere. :| 

If they were always able to do the first, then the second is a war crime. And if the second is a war crime, then the first is nothing to celebrate. 

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25 minutes ago, katt_goddess said:

So...a few days after a playground gets hit, they were able to surgically strike three high level targets without flattening the entire landscape. 

And yet, they are still bombing the ever loving shit out of refugee camps in Gaza 'safe zones' because there's a terrorist in there somewhere. :| 

If they were always able to do the first, then the second is a war crime. And if the second is a war crime, then the first is nothing to celebrate. 

This was the first thought I had when I read how precise the strikes were. They killed civilians because they wanted to 

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Finally 9 members of the IDF were being held for questioning because they raped and tortured an inmate. The settlers tried to break the fences down to release the rapists because to the settlers raping Palestinians is fine. Ben Gyvir called the rapists “heroes”.  Israeli parliament members and Netanyahu better be going to prison at some point.  

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5 hours ago, Master-Debater131 said:


Something has absolutely shifted since Netanyhu came to the US. The rate that high profile terrorists are dropping is absolutely insane.

It's called he realized that the likely next President of the US told him she wants a ceasefire and now he's scrambling to take out as many people on his list as possible while he still has assistance to do so. 

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On 7/30/2024 at 9:42 PM, Master-Debater131 said:

It may not have been Mossad after all. Initial reports are claiming this was actually an airstrike.

Which if true, is an even bigger deal than first thought. That would mean that the IDF was able to fly undetected into Iran, fly into the capital, hit their target, and get out without Iran having any response.

Nope.

Mossad hired IRGC agents in May to plant explosives that killed Haniyeh — report

https://www.timesofisrael.com/mossad-hired-irgc-agents-in-may-to-plant-explosives-that-killed-haniyeh-report/

It was Mossad, but not like first thought. They hired a high ranking person in the IRGC to plant a bomb 3 months ago.

This actually is so much better than even an airstrike. Now there is suspicion in the IRGC on who could be the mole, and questions throughout Iranian leadership on if they can even count on the IRGC anymore.

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12 minutes ago, naraku360 said:

is that why hes still spewing the propaganda lie about "the right to defend itself". this article only says he is "sympathetic" to the protestors. 

how about we stop giving weapons to israel and tell them to knock that shit off with trying to expand the war? 

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16 minutes ago, Distortedreasoning said:

is that why hes still spewing the propaganda lie about "the right to defend itself". this article only says he is "sympathetic" to the protestors. 

how about we stop giving weapons to israel and tell them to knock that shit off with trying to expand the war? 

What did you ask me for?

43 minutes ago, Distortedreasoning said:

show me where he calls out on israel to stop. 

I'm not going to play your games if you want to be a goalpost moving baby about it.

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Just now, naraku360 said:

No, I call it him calling the genocide unacceptable.

Which it is.

Have you ever tried nuance?

i asked for showing me where he calls out the state committing the genocide. i only saw fake sympathy and calls for the same bullshit cease fire biden keeps talking about. 

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3 minutes ago, Distortedreasoning said:

i asked for showing me where he calls out the state committing the genocide. i only saw fake sympathy and calls for the same bullshit cease fire biden keeps talking about. 

How do you know it's fake? Can you read his mind?

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1 minute ago, Distortedreasoning said:

he is spewing the "right to defend themselves" lie. it is the exact same excuse israel uses to commit genocide. 

Does Israel not have a right to defend itself....?

I'm not disagreeing that Israel uses it as an excuse for, but most people in this thread agree with the notion that a country can defend itself when attacked, and that Oct 7th was a serious attack that warranted a response.

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20 minutes ago, naraku360 said:

Does Israel not have a right to defend itself....?

I'm not disagreeing that Israel uses it as an excuse for, but most people in this thread agree with the notion that a country can defend itself when attacked, and that Oct 7th was a serious attack that warranted a response.

even the framing of that question makes it seem  as the attack was unwarranted. its not like palestine woke up one morning and decided to attack israel just for fun. they been an occupied people since 1947 and have been suffering not only from their lands being stolen, but also being 2nd class citizens and getting killed. only now its been amped up to the extreme. 

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4 minutes ago, Distortedreasoning said:

even the framing of that question makes it seem  as the attack was unwarranted. its not like palestine woke up one morning and decided to attack israel just for fun. they been an occupied people since 1947 and have been suffering not only from their lands being stolen, but also being 2nd class citizens and getting killed. only now its been amped up to the extreme. 

So.... you think Hamas is good....?

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7 minutes ago, Distortedreasoning said:

even asking like they do in msm. 

I don't know what this means.

 

7 minutes ago, Distortedreasoning said:

hamas, however they were formed, whatever you think of them, is the army of the palestinian people. thats the only ones aside from ansar allah fighting for palestinian liberation. 

I understand why Hamas exists, but raping and murdering innocent civilians isn't fighting for Palestinian liberation and that's all Oct 7th was.

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5 minutes ago, naraku360 said:

I don't know what this means.

 

I understand why Hamas exists, but raping and murdering innocent civilians isn't fighting for Palestinian liberation and that's all Oct 7th was.

it means you taking up the mainstream media narrative. one that is always showing extreme pro israel bias. 

 

those were lies, hamas did not commit those crimes. another narrative meant to give more sympathy towards the people committing the genocide. there's evidence to discredit those claims.

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24 minutes ago, Distortedreasoning said:

https://edition.cnn.com/2024/05/22/middleeast/israel-idf-hostage-video-hamas-intl/index.html

I know you think everything the UN does is a malicious anti-Palestine conspiracy.... but they found sexual assault widespread from both Hamas and Israel.

https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2024/06/israeli-authorities-palestinian-armed-groups-are-responsible-war-crimes

 

Also, when this is still being discussed on a global scale, how the everloving fuck do you of all people have such accurate, precise knowledge as to know definitively that the UN is lying?

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4 hours ago, Distortedreasoning said:

even asking like they do in msm. hamas, however they were formed, whatever you think of them, is the army of the palestinian people. thats the only ones aside from ansar allah fighting for palestinian liberation. 

Even if Hamas has good motives to attack Israel, it shouldn't attack Israel just like how Israel shouldn't attack Gaza or the West Bank.

They've been in a cycle of violence for so many decades and yeah Israel shouldn't have been formed there in the first place but you can't just get rid of the Israelis there. The only solution is a 2 state solution.

 

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6 hours ago, Distortedreasoning said:

it means you taking up the mainstream media narrative. one that is always showing extreme pro israel bias. 

 

those were lies, hamas did not commit those crimes. another narrative meant to give more sympathy towards the people committing the genocide. there's evidence to discredit those claims.

Hamas absolutely committed those crimes. Are you fuckin kidding me?!?  

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17 minutes ago, naraku360 said:

Remember, N. Korea isn't totalitarian; that's just mainstream colonialist propaganda!

And he links a site that denies the Uhyger are being genocided in China 

btw his claim of Bernie Sanders not using the term “genocide” in reference to Israel and Palestine is just false. He has repeatedly called the acts “genocidal”

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15 minutes ago, 1pooh4u said:

And he links a site that denies the Uhyger are being genocided in China 

btw his claim of Bernie Sanders not using the term “genocide” in reference to Israel and Palestine is just false. He has repeatedly called the acts “genocidal”

I noticed that. He's so wrong about so many things, I didn’t even think to point out that he supports a government-issued genocide. He just prefers them in 1 party systems over 2. More democratic that way, I guessssss........?

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What do you expect when someone declares "mainstream media" the enemy?

"Yeah, unlike you sheep, I get my news from an alternative source that no reputable agency knows it trusts. And I know I don't need to face check anything from them because they're not mainstream so they would never lie."

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13 minutes ago, naraku360 said:

I noticed that. He's so wrong about so many things, I didn’t even think to point out that he supports a government-issued genocide. He just prefers them in 1 party systems over 2. More democratic that way, I guessssss........?

And then there was his backing of Putin when Russia invaded the Ukraine. 

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