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BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO SAY OR DO AND I TRUST THIS PLACE AND YOU PEOPLE MORE THAN RANDOM PEOPLE I DON'T KNOW

I guess these are options:

1. Try to find someplace quiet where you can chill, even if that means going outside away from everyone.

2. Probably a good idea to hide things they can easily kill themselves with like pills, guns, knives, etc. 

3. Think of who is calm right now and who your sibling might consider talking to.

4. Do not call the cops unless it is the absolute last resort. They do not handle mental problems well.

5. When you're able to talk, you might want to tell your family to back off you because this is a really stressful situation for you too.

6. Whatever the hell led up to this, your family needs to figure out how not to bring this about again(which I have no idea since you've given us very little information).

7. Your sibling probably needs some form of counseling(if they're not already), but someone needs to bring this up in a way that doesn't set them off.

If this is more like an off their anti-psychotic meds breakdown, you need to google professional help. You really should do that anyway *shrug*.

 

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51 minutes ago, Naraku4656 said:

i'm aware but i have all sorts of family calling me right now and i'm sitting in my room because i don't know what the fuck else to do

Thats the wonderful thing about living alone. If you dont want the drama .... you can just turn off your phone and deal with the aftermath.

 

Usually they dont really want to kill themselves, they just want someone to listen to them or appear to care about them

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If it's the resultof a fight, try to get the two sides to stay away from each other. Don't worry about mediating or anything. Calm and apart is the only goal. 

If you need to call the police to save a life do it. Better for people to be mad than dead. But only if it's really necessary. 

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Does your sibling have a plan or means to do it? When it comes to suicide there are 4 major things you need to consider: Ideation, intent, plan, and means. If someone has all 4 then you have a psychiatric emergency and need to call 911. Ideation or just saying "I'm going to kill myself" isn't really an issue in and of itself, even though it may seem like it. It can become one so you still need to talk to and support the person but it's not really anything to freak out about. If I had to call 911 every time one of my clients said something vaguely suicidal 75% of them would be going to the ER like, every day. And then 99.99% of that 75% would get sent home because they are not a danger to themselves.

A lot of people have passive suicidal ideation almost all the time but have no intent of actually doing it. Some people just threaten suicide for attention but still don't have intent. Saying "I'm going to kill myself" is way different than saying something like "I am going to shoot myself in the head with the gun that I own at 9 pm tonight". Though people usually don't make things that clear you can directly ask someone who expresses suicidal ideation more about it; ask directly how they would do it and whatnot. It's a common misconception (one I used to have myself) that talking about suicide is a trigger but it's not really.

As Vamped said, people usually just want to talk. So once you've established that they are not actually a threat to themselves, you can just talk to them and help them deescalate.

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i do what i think is right. i got thrown in the middle of something bigger than i thought would happen. basically i had a family member completely disown another, right before they go for an elective surgery. i really don't want to give more details than that, or rather i'm not comfortable doing it. i called my sibling and let them know that i still care and want to be in their life. i just...hope that's enough. i'm not sure what else i can, or should, do

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i guess i feel a combination of fear, sadness, and powerlessness. not that i ever really thought i could have power over any of them, but all i've ever wanted was peace. i thought i had it for a while, but today brought back a lot of really really bad memories from what i hoped had stopped many years ago. the only reason i'm talking about it here is because i don't feel like i have anyone there i can talk to. everyone has their own side, everyone thinks that they're right. i just hope that they're ok, more than i am, and that they're stronger than i am through this.

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4 minutes ago, Naraku4656 said:

i do what i think is right. i got thrown in the middle of something bigger than i thought would happen. basically i had a family member completely disown another, right before they go for an elective surgery. i really don't want to give more details than that, or rather i'm not comfortable doing it. i called my sibling and let them know that i still care and want to be in their life. i just...hope that's enough. i'm not sure what else i can, or should, do

Sounds like that's all you really can do, man. You can't always be the mediator for your family. Let them do what they're gonna do and support the ones that need it.

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3 minutes ago, Athena 92 said:

Sounds like that's all you really can do, man. You can't always be the mediator for your family. Let them do what they're gonna do and support the ones that need it.

i'm seen as the mature one and the responsible one, even though i'm the younger sibling. i've always been there for any family problems, usually i'm able to calm people down at least a little bit. but today i didn't. maybe because this is the first real fight in many years, or maybe because some of us are further away than others. i don't live near my sibling, though i really want to be there for them right now. they're with some friends now, i guess to calm them down.

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No wonder you'd like to work 2 or 3 jobs.

1 hour ago, fuggstop said:

The best thing about suicide scares is that no one who announces it actually does it.

I wouldn't say no one because the minute I'd say that it will happen. But yeah, usually.

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3 minutes ago, Ric said:

No wonder you'd like to work 2 or 3 jobs.

I wouldn't say no one because the minute I'd say that it will happen. But yeah, usually.

they didn't announce it per se. one of my family members said to me "make sure to tell (other family member) if (my sibling) kills themselves it's (the other family member's) fault" I of course never said that to them, and I never will say that but it got me very worried. my sibling has bad depression, worse than the crap i put on here.

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2 hours ago, Athena 92 said:

Does your sibling have a plan or means to do it? When it comes to suicide there are 4 major things you need to consider: Ideation, intent, plan, and means. If someone has all 4 then you have a psychiatric emergency and need to call 911. Ideation or just saying "I'm going to kill myself" isn't really an issue in and of itself, even though it may seem like it. It can become one so you still need to talk to and support the person but it's not really anything to freak out about. If I had to call 911 every time one of my clients said something vaguely suicidal 75% of them would be going to the ER like, every day. And then 99.99% of that 75% would get sent home because they are not a danger to themselves.

A lot of people have passive suicidal ideation almost all the time but have no intent of actually doing it. Some people just threaten suicide for attention but still don't have intent. Saying "I'm going to kill myself" is way different than saying something like "I am going to shoot myself in the head with the gun that I own at 9 pm tonight". Though people usually don't make things that clear you can directly ask someone who expresses suicidal ideation more about it; ask directly how they would do it and whatnot. It's a common misconception (one I used to have myself) that talking about suicide is a trigger but it's not really.

As Vamped said, people usually just want to talk. So once you've established that they are not actually a threat to themselves, you can just talk to them and help them deescalate.

Anyone that may be in a situation like this should read this. It's spot on. 

I dealt with the ideation for years. It was only when coupled with extreme anxiety and a means that it became really dangerous. 

Someone may reach out, and ask for help. They may announce it. They may not. It's a good idea to talk it through if someone says something like that or direct them to someone who can help. 

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39 minutes ago, Naraku4656 said:

they didn't announce it per se. one of my family members said to me "make sure to tell (other family member) if (my sibling) kills themselves it's (the other family member's) fault" I of course never said that to them, and I never will say that but it got me very worried. my sibling has bad depression, worse than the crap i put on here.

Well your family just sounds lovely.

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