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Studio Pierrot: **opens recipe book to “generic shonen” and begins reading recipe**

let’s see, ....meh, I don’t need this recipe **tosses book and gets out ingredients**

**adds a teaspoon of Naruto**....**then adds two more**

**adds a cup full of Fairy tail...then pours in a little more**...**then adds some more naruto**

**opens an expired jar of memes and pours that in as well**

what else does this need?........**pours in an entire bottle of filler**

**and adds a jar of screaming**

**throws it in the oven and hopes for the best**

 

3 hours later

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oooohhh.........>_>....<_<....**frosts it and claims it’s the new king of shonen and pays of all the critics to say it’s great**

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Don't forget to throw some MHA in there ...kid with no powers in society where everyone has a power suddenly gets best power.

And some Blue exorcist.... Twin brothers but totally different! One brother is mature and studious one brother is immature and rowdy.

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please do some research before making posts like this.

two things i don't get about this show:

how did asta not completely lose it when meeting "the wizard king," and why did he tell the previous villain that yuno wasn't his to fight because yuno was his rival? does that make any sense to any of you?

also i'd bet "asta screams sex appeal" wasn't an intentional joke.

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Pretty sure the top cupcakes were made with some sort of black food coloring and not burned beyond all recognition.

That said, I'd eat that one in the red wrapping on the bottom right.

My greatest non-death-related fear is that when My Hero Academia starts, I'll actually like it less than Black Clover, which I'm actually starting to get legit enjoyment out of.

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13 hours ago, korosu said:

please do some research before making posts like this.

 

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two things i don't get about this show:

how did asta not completely lose it when meeting "the wizard king," and why did he tell the previous villain that yuno wasn't his to fight because yuno was his rival? does that make any sense to any of you?

also i'd bet "asta screams sex appeal" wasn't an intentional joke.

 

did they seriously Say Asta Screams sex appeal?, I can name about 50 Sexier male anime characters than him

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When you're as ripped as Asta, you've already got an up on sex appeal compared to most other shonen protags.

But really, my biggest problem with this thread is the fact that you apparently believe Pierrot created Black Clover when it was someone else entirely, WHICH IS JUST FLAT-OUT BULLSHIT.

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30 minutes ago, PokeNirvash said:

When you're as ripped as Asta, you've already got an up on sex appeal compared to most other shonen protags.

But really, my biggest problem with this thread is the fact that you apparently believe Pierrot created Black Clover when it was someone else entirely, WHICH IS JUST FLAT-OUT BULLSHIT.

maybe so but his voice and personality are horrid

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38 minutes ago, PokeNirvash said:

When you're as ripped as Asta, you've already got an up on sex appeal compared to most other shonen protags.

But really, my biggest problem with this thread is the fact that you apparently believe Pierrot created Black Clover when it was someone else entirely, WHICH IS JUST FLAT-OUT BULLSHIT.

Well.. they did create the anime. They turned a fast paced manga into a slow paced filler laden crawl.

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51 minutes ago, Jman said:

I’m gonna laugh so hard if MHA gets lumped in with Screamy McScreamington and flops.

At that point, AIR MEGALO BOX.  Well...once someone dubs the damn thing.

Well there are a couple of things working against it. It's a couple years old, it's not getting more than 1 weeks promotion, and it's airing third after Kai. 

It's also such a big anime that almost everyone has seen it in the last 2 years.

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54 minutes ago, Jman said:

I’m gonna laugh so hard if MHA gets lumped in with Screamy McScreamington and flops.

At that point, AIR MEGALO BOX.  Well...once someone dubs the damn thing.

if it does it'll just be because everyone has already seen 3 full seasons of it via streams

 

also what the fuck is wrong with you why do you even watch Toonami with us when you apparently hate literally all anime? :|

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Bleach and NaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAruto came to an end, Toriko shat the bed, and the only front-runners are One Piece, cooking and sports maAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAngaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA, and My Hero AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAcademiaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA, so they need to push one more maAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAngaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA to the front, and whaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAt aAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA better selection than one that shamelessly takes from aAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAll of their most populaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAr maAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAngaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA?

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1 hour ago, Daos said:

Well there are a couple of things working against it. It's a couple years old, it's not getting more than 1 weeks promotion, and it's airing third after Kai. 

It's also such a big anime that almost everyone has seen it in the last 2 years.

Well the whole thing is on VRV, FUNi, Hulu, and Crunchyroll.

...I should get started again.  See how far I get this time.

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4 hours ago, mochi said:

maybe so but his voice and personality are horrid

*takes deep breath and tries maintaining sanity* For those who love bitching for the sake of bitching and can't see the big picture, Asta annoys Yami and the other characters on Black Clover with his screaming. It's a major flaw of his, which actually makes it funny. Asta is also REALLY passionate about becoming the Wizard King and feels grateful to have even made it on any squad, considering that he has no magic.

As far as having a horrid personality, have you ever considered how incredibly horrid and downright sickening it is to sit and read the same complaints by the same posters, especially those who do nothing other than push their political agenda 24/7, and throws tantrums because their political agenda is not met with every movie and TV show? 

Have you ever taken into consideration that, "Hmm.. even though I may hate this show, there are still other people that actually like it and don't care about me complaining about how I can't convert every character to fit my narrative, sexual fantasies, or fan fiction"?

For the love of God already, give it rest! If you don't like the show, don't watch it! Let other people watch what we want to watch in peace and you can watch what you want to watch. Everybody doesn't like the same thing you like and shouldn't have to. 

Why is it such a hard concept to grasp with this çommunity? 

If more posters spent LESS time complaining about every little thing known to man, there would probably be more of us posting on this board! Good God! This is exactly why some posters want down votes to be implemented to this board.

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11 minutes ago, PurgatoryGirl said:

*takes deep breath and tries maintaining sanity* For those who love bitching for the sake of bitching and can't see the big picture, Asta annoys Yami and the other characters on Black Clover with his screaming. It's a major flaw of his, which actually makes it funny. Asta is also REALLY passionate about becoming the Wizard King and feels grateful to have even made it on any squad, considering that he has no magic.

As far as having a horrid personality, have you ever considered how incredibly horrid and downright sickening it is to sit and read the same complaints by the same posters, especially those who do nothing other than push their political agenda 24/7, and throws tantrums because their political agenda is not met with every movie and TV show? 

Have you ever taken into consideration that, "Hmm.. even though I may hate this show, there are still other people that actually like it and don't care about me complaining about how I can't convert every character to fit my narrative, sexual fantasies, or fan fiction"?

For the love of God already, give it rest! If you don't like the show, don't watch it! Let other people watch what we want to watch in peace and you can watch what you want to watch. Everybody doesn't like the same thing you like and shouldn't have to. 

Why is it such a hard concept to grasp with this çommunity? 

If more posters spent LESS time complaining about every little thing known to man, there would probably be more of us posting on this board! Good God! This is exactly why some posters want down votes to be implemented to this board.

would ya stop taking our razzing on Black Clover so personally Mooselina

it's not a personal attack on you for liking it

(hell I don't even hate the show as much as some I actually sort of like it in a "so bad it's enjoyable" kinda way)

we razz on most of Toonami's shows, it's part of the fun

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For what it's worth, you can block whoever you even have mild disagreement with.

About Megalo Box, it's only being streamed by Crunchyroll. Coincidentally, shows with that distinction tend to see delays with being dubbed. Re:Zero came out all the way back in Spring 2016 and is only getting a home video release soon. The benchmark seems to be two years on average, and therefore, I don't think we're going to see this get dubbed for a while. Maybe in early 2020, you can talk to CR about it.

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6 hours ago, Jman said:

I’m gonna laugh so hard if MHA gets lumped in with Screamy McScreamington and flops.

At that point, AIR MEGALO BOX.  Well...once someone dubs the damn thing.

Everyone will just blame it on me for comparing the promo for MHA to Black Clover when I was in a drunken stupor.

In all actuality though, I think MHA will do great.

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1 hour ago, mochi said:

would ya stop taking our razzing on Black Clover so personally Mooselina

it's not a personal attack on you for liking it

(hell I don't even hate the show as much as some I actually sort of like it in a "so bad it's enjoyable" kinda way)

we razz on most of Toonami's shows, it's part of the fun

Don't sit there and call me "Mooselina" because there are a lot of names, that quite a few of us can sit and call you. Then, you would be whining about how everyone picks on you.

This goes beyond Toonami posters bitching about Black Clover. Throughout last year, you did the same thing; bitching about Tokyo Ghoul in other sub-forums around this board. Meanwhile, Tokyo Ghoul was "trending" on social media. It's like some of you have serious OCD with shows you have a personal hatred for.

Like I said more than once or twice, if you don't like a show, don't watch it. There are shows you love, that some of  us simply hate too. However, we don't post divisive threads or purposely go out our way to derail other posters' threads to complain and mock their fans. If we did, you would be legitimately sick of us.

Originally, I wasn't going to post on this board, especially not today. Honestly, this is the only forum outside of ASMB I've ever belonged to where the posters have to always pick everything and everyone apart, and can never stay on topic.

I was about to post another thread in Anime & Manga. Because I know there will be at least 1 poster there to derail it because they have a problem with a show for whatever reason, I had changed my mind.

Do any of you people genuinely like any of the shows you watch, or are you only worried about a show's ratings and its popularity or lack thereof?

I've tried getting some friends to come back to this board to post, but they don't want to come back. They don't want to sit and read the negative, backhanded, and divisive remarks in threads about something or someone.

There were threads in other sub-forums I almost posted in over the last 2 weeks or so. Then, I changed my mind because it didn't take long for a poster to make some snide remark or to mock someone else' sub-culture or something else.

Posting on this board really isn't that much fun. I actually question why I still bother to lurk or post here.

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7 hours ago, PurgatoryGirl said:

*takes deep breath and tries maintaining sanity* For those who love bitching for the sake of bitching and can't see the big picture, Asta annoys Yami and the other characters on Black Clover with his screaming. It's a major flaw of his, which actually makes it funny. Asta is also REALLY passionate about becoming the Wizard King and feels grateful to have even made it on any squad, considering that he has no magic.

As far as having a horrid personality, have you ever considered how incredibly horrid and downright sickening it is to sit and read the same complaints by the same posters, especially those who do nothing other than push their political agenda 24/7, and throws tantrums because their political agenda is not met with every movie and TV show? 

Have you ever taken into consideration that, "Hmm.. even though I may hate this show, there are still other people that actually like it and don't care about me complaining about how I can't convert every character to fit my narrative, sexual fantasies, or fan fiction"?

For the love of God already, give it rest! If you don't like the show, don't watch it! Let other people watch what we want to watch in peace and you can watch what you want to watch. Everybody doesn't like the same thing you like and shouldn't have to. 

Why is it such a hard concept to grasp with this çommunity? 

If more posters spent LESS time complaining about every little thing known to man, there would probably be more of us posting on this board! Good God! This is exactly why some posters want down votes to be implemented to this board.

To be fair, you did walk into a Mochi thread. A thread Mochi made about Black Clover. You knew what this was.

It also seems like you enjoy a lot of anime that are critically despised. Which is fine, but when you like anime that are critically despised, you're going to have to deal with the fact that a lot of people aren't going to like it and are going to be pretty vocal about it. Especially if it's taking up a slot on the Toonami roster and getting bad ratings.

If you just want to hear nice things about BC there's tons of people who actually do like BC. I'm sure there's fan forums that only have to contend with a troll now and then.

 

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9 hours ago, PurgatoryGirl said:

Don't sit there and call me "Mooselina" because there are a lot of names, that quite a few of us can sit and call you. Then, you would be whining about how everyone picks on you.

This goes beyond Toonami posters bitching about Black Clover. Throughout last year, you did the same thing; bitching about Tokyo Ghoul in other sub-forums around this board. Meanwhile, Tokyo Ghoul was "trending" on social media. It's like some of you have serious OCD with shows you have a personal hatred for.

Like I said more than once or twice, if you don't like a show, don't watch it. There are shows you love, that some of  us simply hate too. However, we don't post divisive threads or purposely go out our way to derail other posters' threads to complain and mock their fans. If we did, you would be legitimately sick of us.

Originally, I wasn't going to post on this board, especially not today. Honestly, this is the only forum outside of ASMB I've ever belonged to where the posters have to always pick everything and everyone apart, and can never stay on topic.

I was about to post another thread in Anime & Manga. Because I know there will be at least 1 poster there to derail it because they have a problem with a show for whatever reason, I had changed my mind.

Do any of you people genuinely like any of the shows you watch, or are you only worried about a show's ratings and its popularity or lack thereof?

I've tried getting some friends to come back to this board to post, but they don't want to come back. They don't want to sit and read the negative, backhanded, and divisive remarks in threads about something or someone.

There were threads in other sub-forums I almost posted in over the last 2 weeks or so. Then, I changed my mind because it didn't take long for a poster to make some snide remark or to mock someone else' sub-culture or something else.

Posting on this board really isn't that much fun. I actually question why I still bother to lurk or post here.

I haven't seen Tokyo Ghoul and never jump on that hate train, but Black Clover deserves the vitriol. It's a show that's been blatantly shoved down people's throats as the great new shonen while it has done nothing to earn that distinction. If it was just a shitty show without the insulting amount of shilling pretending that's it's not trash, I would just ignore it. But nope, fans had to watch Toonami buy into that manufactured hype and trash their ratings. 

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On 4/30/2018 at 10:43 PM, mochi said:

Studio Pierrot: **opens recipe book to “generic shonen” and begins reading recipe**

let’s see, ....meh, I don’t need this recipe **tosses book and gets out ingredients**

**adds a teaspoon of Naruto**....**then adds two more**

**adds a cup full of Fairy tail...then pours in a little more**...**then adds some more naruto**

**opens an expired jar of memes and pours that in as well**

what else does this need?........**pours in an entire bottle of filler**

**and adds a jar of screaming**

**throws it in the oven and hopes for the best**

 

3 hours later

january2010129.jpg

oooohhh.........>_>....<_<....**frosts it and claims it’s the new king of shonen and pays of all the critics to say it’s great**

No no I know how Black Clover came about.

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On 4/30/2018 at 11:05 PM, Daos said:

Don't forget to throw some MHA in there ...kid with no powers in society where everyone has a power suddenly gets best power.

And some Blue exorcist.... Twin brothers but totally different! One brother is mature and studious one brother is immature and rowdy.

And REMEMBER!  Once he gets said power, make sure everyone else in the entire story keeps saying "he doesn't have any power", again and again until the end of the story.

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On 5/1/2018 at 12:29 AM, korosu said:

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two things i don't get about this show:

how did asta not completely lose it when meeting "the wizard king," and why did he tell the previous villain that yuno wasn't his to fight because yuno was his rival? does that make any sense to any of you?

also i'd bet "asta screams sex appeal" wasn't an intentional joke.

 

Its more like a joke post. Just havin fun.

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23 hours ago, Jman said:

I’m gonna laugh so hard if MHA gets lumped in with Screamy McScreamington and flops.

At that point, AIR MEGALO BOX.  Well...once someone dubs the damn thing.

MHA does not at all seem like the kind of show that will get worse ratings than Ear-Blood: Thurh Amine Sthonan.  First off, MHA will air BEFORE it, earlier in the day, automatically upping its chances of better ratings.

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MHA also has the benefit of having a built-in audience like Attack on Titan. The people that like the show will flock to it because they want to rewatch the show dubbed without a subscription, and the people that haven't seen it yet would have an easier time being pulled into it because its popularity is owed to being a competent shonen that can hold up by its own merits instead of being unwillingly forced on everyone like Black Clover.

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I have to admit, you are absolutely right. Mochi's threads are usually very predictable even when they are clickbait.

Generally speaking, I think part of the main reason why I still lurk and occasionally post on this board is because I still hold onto that small glimmer of hope, that someone can post a thread or comment about something that's positive. This is not limited to shows. 

It may seem that way to Toonami posters, but like I said before, it's hard to post much of anything on this site without someone always being a mood killer or a troll. I'm not saying there are any trolls in here right now, but you see how some other posters are around this board.

Some friends from ASMB ask me on Facebook why I still waste time posting here because barely anyone posts on this site. From time to time, there are still some friends without social media accounts, who still post here.

Lately, they've been missing because they're busy with their own lives and because nothing or no one resonates with them. That last part I can especially agree with them on. Almost nothing or no one resonates with me here. The fact that so many forums and other sites keep shutting down because they can't compete with Facebook doesn't help. 

I thought I was weening myself from Facebook. Now, I must try weening myself from this board. LOL! It's pointless to keep posting on a site, when there is nothing or no one that resonates with you.

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10 hours ago, SorceressPol said:

I haven't seen Tokyo Ghoul and never jump on that hate train, but Black Clover deserves the vitriol. It's a show that's been blatantly shoved down people's throats as the great new shonen while it has done nothing to earn that distinction. If it was just a shitty show without the insulting amount of shilling pretending that's it's not trash, I would just ignore it. But nope, fans had to watch Toonami buy into that manufactured hype and trash their ratings. 

What if a bunch of people requested for it to air?  You know, like they did with Tokyo Ghoul?

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On 4/30/2018 at 10:05 PM, Daos said:

Don't forget to throw some MHA in there ...kid with no powers in society where everyone has a power suddenly gets best power.

And some Blue exorcist.... Twin brothers but totally different! One brother is mature and studious one brother is immature and rowdy.

There are some Seven Deadly Sins vibes too.

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On 5/1/2018 at 5:07 PM, PurgatoryGirl said:

Asta annoys Yami and the other characters on Black Clover with his screaming. It's a major flaw of his, which actually makes it funny.

No, it really doesn't. Acknowledging that you're stabbing me in the ear with a screwdriver and then continuing to do it every single week does not make it funny just because you know you're doing it.

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8 minutes ago, EmpressAngel said:

No, it really doesn't. Acknowledging that you're stabbing me in the ear with a screwdriver and then continuing to do it every single week does not make it funny just because you know you're doing it.

in the series defense he did eventually stop screaming even in the Japanese version

 

right around the time fans in Japan started asking Pierrot to fire his Voice actor

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15 minutes ago, EmpressAngel said:

Acknowledging that you're stabbing me in the ear with a screwdriver and then continuing to do it every single week does not make it funny just because you know you're doing it.

If that's the analogy you're going to go with for the English dub, would that mean the Japanese dub is like the screwdriver going deeper and puncturing your eardrum directly?

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Look you're just kind of going to have to accept that when stuff airs on Toonami that isn't very good, the tide is going to turn against it pretty heavily and no one is going to be very nice to it. Except Owl and Poke probably.

It would kind of be like going to a Star Wars convention and giving a speech about why the Phantom Menace is the best Star Wars movie ever made. Sure it's an opinion, and you're allowed to have your own opinion. But it's a really bad opinion. People are going to think it's ridiculous to say that and the reaction isn't going to be very positive.

If you're looking for resonance.. I do know a guy who can resonate with anyone....

 

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12 hours ago, mochi said:

in the series defense he did eventually stop screaming even in the Japanese version

 

right around the time fans in Japan started asking Pierrot to fire his Voice actor

the damage is done and these horrid opening episodes will be cemented in his show for all eternity.

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