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who here has not been under the influence for a reasonable amount of time?

i just want to talk about why that can be difficult and requires determination.

there's a few points people pass while getting sober; the initial withdrawals, the recovery, becoming abstinent, and remaining abstinent.

the hardest part imo is the recovery: if you can make 35-40 days and not give into to a craving, you're almost home free.

the next hardest part is remaining abstinent.  an addict sometimes has trouble remembering all the reasons to stay sober.  so a relapse late in the process becomes likely.

on the other hand, becoming abstinent after a tough recovery can be very self-satisfying and personally challenging.

when you re-examine priority and important life circumstances with a sober mind and a new will to succeed, its very motivating and inspiring.

i want to be abstinent without ever being challenged, but thats impossible, so all in moderation, amirite?

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  On 2/27/2018 at 9:18 PM, mumbojummie13 said:

who here has not been under the influence for a reasonable amount of time?

i just want to talk about why that can be difficult and requires determination.

there's a few points people pass while getting sober; the initial withdrawals, the recovery, becoming abstinent, and remaining abstinent.

the hardest part imo is the recovery: if you can make 35-40 days and not give into to a craving, you're almost home free.

the next hardest part is remaining abstinent.  an addict sometimes has trouble remembering all the reasons to stay sober.  so a relapse late in the process becomes likely.

on the other hand, becoming abstinent after a tough recovery can be very self-satisfying and personally challenging.

when you re-examine priority and important life circumstances with a sober mind and a new will to succeed, its very motivating and inspiring.

i want to be abstinent without ever being challenged, but thats impossible, so all in moderation, amirite?

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I don’t have a drinking problem nor a drug problem...so it’s not “hard” to be sober...it’s just living my life....do I occasionally have a beer with dinner? Or a glass of wine? Yes...but it’s usually one or twice a year...

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  On 2/27/2018 at 9:26 PM, Still Me said:

I don’t have a drinking problem nor a drug problem...so it’s not “hard” to be sober...it’s just living my life....do I occasionally have a beer with dinner? Or a glass of wine? Yes...but it’s usually one or twice a year...

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thats my attitude too. 

but you know some people have ingrained deeply psychologically and behaviorally reinforced abuse disorders,

and using occasionally isnt an option. even with sober times 10+ years, the next relapse could be the last.

 

 

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  On 2/27/2018 at 9:50 PM, Noboru Yamaguchi said:

These are all excuses.....I get shitfaced and buy gum so I can work

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actually you could be correct, but i know a lot of people who dont have any motivation, respect for society, or the responsibility to hold a job,

and the indicator with all of them is severe addiction, plus a background and environment that enables abuse.  the difference being they might all have

a mental disorder too, or some variation that doesnt apply to you,

like you are saying, maybe a person without a diagnosable illness, such as yourself, doesnt experience that.

i could be wrong.

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  On 2/27/2018 at 10:12 PM, naraku360 said:

Alcohol makes my stomach hurt before it can make me intoxicated.

It also tastes terrible, so there's basically no point.

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i know what you mean 100%.

but the weird aftertaste goes away after a few drinks.  

this thread is really more about sobriety from drugs though.

with alcohol and soon marijuana off the blacklist,

no one will need to be an addict.

that almost sounds like a miracle.

 

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I have 2 years on march 19th. 

 

Actually I think quitting the substance is the easy part.

The real challenge is putting your life back together and fixing all the other problems, the list is endless.

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  On 2/27/2018 at 10:18 PM, Phillies said:

I have 2 years on march 19th. 

 

Actually I think quitting the substance is the easy part.

The real challenge is putting your life back together and fixing all the other problems, the list is endless.

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woah.  good for you.  what are the reasons that motivated you to quit? 

 

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  On 2/27/2018 at 10:25 PM, mumbojummie13 said:

i have never met anyone with alcohol intolerance.  how rare is that?

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I'm actually not sure. I never really looked into it and whatever numbers that come up might not even be right because not everyone drinks and most cough syrups on the market aren't measured in proofs anymore. 

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  On 2/27/2018 at 9:55 PM, Noboru Yamaguchi said:

I keep clicking your avatar but you keep managing to post

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what? im speaking up about how hard it is to quit using..

im actually drinking tonight but im not encouraging heroin. 

actually there are some really good Canadian heroin use support programs. 

it just the people unable to regain control in the depths of an addiction that dont seem to understand health and wellbeing that i am concerned about.

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i did 8 months awhile back. it was hard at first, but it got easier. i'd gotten locked in a cycle of coming home from work and drinking until i basically passed out. started having physical and psychological problems. i confess that i've fallen off the wagon a bit, but i'm nowhere near as bad as i was. 

stopping for a bit helped me reset my systems. i've also taken some mini breaks since. (a month or two off just to prove to myself that i can)

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  On 2/27/2018 at 9:58 PM, mumbojummie13 said:

actually you could be correct, but i know a lot of people who dont have any motivation, respect for society, or the responsibility to hold a job,

and the indicator with all of them is severe addiction, plus a background and environment that enables abuse.  the difference being they might all have

a mental disorder too, or some variation that doesnt apply to you,

like you are saying, maybe a person without a diagnosable illness, such as yourself, doesnt experience that.

i could be wrong.

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You most definitely are.

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  On 2/27/2018 at 10:37 PM, nameraka said:

i did 8 months awhile back. it was hard at first, but it got easier. i'd gotten locked in a cycle of coming home from work and drinking until i basically passed out. started having physical and psychological problems. i confess that i've fallen off the wagon a bit, but i'm nowhere near as bad as i was. 

stopping for a bit helped me reset my systems. i've also taken some mini breaks since. (a month or two off just to prove to myself that i can)

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this.<^

if you know the effort it takes, and remember the fear of your life being completely consumed, you hit the nail on the head.

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  On 2/27/2018 at 10:23 PM, mumbojummie13 said:

 

woah.  good for you.  what are the reasons that motivated you to quit? 

 

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Mental health needed to be fixed for good this time. no more self medicating. Also the list of problems is endless- criminal record,relationships destroyed, unresolved warrants in other counties, etc. 

Quitting the substance was not hard like AA and all that bull shit makes it out to be. Am I going to stay sober for the rest of my life? I don't know, am I an addict? I don't know. 

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  On 2/27/2018 at 10:17 PM, mumbojummie13 said:

i know what you mean 100%.

but the weird aftertaste goes away after a few drinks.  

this thread is really more about sobriety from drugs though.

with alcohol and soon marijuana off the blacklist,

no one will need to be an addict.

that almost sounds like a miracle.

 

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Alcohol is the only addictive thing I've tried. Most addictive drugs are more dangerous than I'm willing to try. Stuff like shrooms or LSD I'm alright trying, but those aren't much of a struggle to stay off.

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It's been months. I don't like the feeling of being under the influence anymore. If something is wrong with my life, I just deal with it regardless of my emotions. I do sometimes consume an unhealthy high level of caffeine, not that it counts.

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  On 2/27/2018 at 11:11 PM, Phillies said:

Mental health needed to be fixed for good this time. no more self medicating. Also the list of problems is endless- criminal record,relationships destroyed, unresolved warrants in other counties, etc. 

Quitting the substance was not hard like AA and all that bull shit makes it out to be. Am I going to stay sober for the rest of my life? I don't know, am I an addict? I don't know. 

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yeah, with 12 step programs the intensity level is a little crazy.  

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  On 2/28/2018 at 12:09 AM, bnmjy said:

It's been months. I don't like the feeling of being under the influence anymore. If something is wrong with my life, I just deal with it regardless of my emotions. I do sometimes consume an unhealthy high level of caffeine, not that it counts.

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just caffeine?  thats successful sobriety, lady.  good for you

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