Ginguy Posted September 21, 2017 Posted September 21, 2017 Yes .... but...... 50 percent of TV viewers didn't cut their cords in the last year. I'm not saying the ratings haven't suffered, I'm simply saiyan that getting 1.5 mil might be a bridge too far. It might be closer to a mil in terms of ceiling.
brianycpht Posted September 21, 2017 Posted September 21, 2017 Yes .... but...... 50 percent of TV viewers didn't cut their cords in the last year. AS as a whole is losing viewers outside of Rick and Morty. They've used Family Guy as a crutch for years and even that isn't a sure thing anymore . That also sort of limits what Toonami can do.
Daos Posted September 21, 2017 Posted September 21, 2017 AS as a whole is losing viewers outside of Rick and Morty. They've used Family Guy as a crutch for years and even that isn't a sure thing anymore . That also sort of limits what Toonami can do. Yes, but while AS and Cartoon Network are losing viewers, the issue is Toonami is losing even more. So you can't just blame cord cutting or weak lead ins for losing almost half your viewers in a year.
Jman Posted September 21, 2017 Posted September 21, 2017 Toonami is airing their anime alongside reruns. This is what Netflix is airing their anime alongside: Point to Netflix.
PokeNirvash Posted September 21, 2017 Posted September 21, 2017 Maybe you should try comparing it to other anime as opposed to everything, because of course Netflix is gonna have it beat every time.
brianycpht Posted September 21, 2017 Posted September 21, 2017 Yes, but while AS and Cartoon Network are losing viewers, the issue is Toonami is losing even more. So you can't just blame cord cutting or weak lead ins for losing almost half your viewers in a year. I agree with you 100%. I was just thinking it was a contributing factor. The lineup itself isn't bringing the viewers as well.
Jman Posted September 21, 2017 Posted September 21, 2017 Maybe you should try comparing it to other anime as opposed to everything, because of course Netflix is gonna have it beat every time. That's my point. Netflix can air their anime next to stuff like The Punisher to raise its profile in a way Toonami simply can't.
PokeNirvash Posted September 21, 2017 Posted September 21, 2017 Yeah, but Toonami doesn't air live action. Hell, since season 5 of Jack finished, they barely air Western stuff anymore. So while you're right in that the Punisher being on Netflix with a bunch of anime has Toonami beat out in appeal, it's still an unfair comparison compared to using Kuromukuro as an example instead.
OwlChemist81 Posted September 22, 2017 Posted September 22, 2017 That's my point. Netflix can air their anime next to stuff like The Punisher to raise its profile in a way Toonami simply can't. That's true, but Toonami CAN and has featured theatrical movie trailers in a similar fashion.
OwlChemist81 Posted September 26, 2017 Posted September 26, 2017 So, last Saturday night we had a perfect night in trending, but would that translate to higher ratings? The answer is: yes, and no. http://www.showbuzzdaily.com/articles/showbuzzdailys-top-150-saturday-cable-originals-network-finals-9-23-2017.html 9/23/2017 Dragon Ball Super (8:30) #19 (-10) Adults 18-34 Rating - 0.33 Estimated 18-34 - 224,000 ( 28.61% ) Adults 18-49 Rating - 0.30 Estimated 18-49 - 385,000 ( 49.17% ) Total Viewers - 783,000 9/23/2017 DBZ Kai: Final Chapters #10 (STEADY) Adults 18-34 Rating - 0.50 Estimated 18-34 - 340,000 ( 41.11% ) Adults 18-49 Rating - 0.38 Estimated 18-49 - 487,000 ( 58.89% ) Total Viewers - 827,000 9/23/2017 JJBA: Stardust Crusaders - #13 (+1) Adults 18-34 Rating - 0.47 Estimated 18-34 - 319,000 ( 43.11% ) Adults 18-49 Rating - 0.36 Estimated 18-49 - 462,000 ( 62.43% ) Total Viewers - 740,000 9/23/2017 Tokyo Ghoul - #18 (-6) Adults 18-34 Rating - 0.42 Estimated 18-34 - 285,000 ( 43.05% ) Adults 18-49 Rating - 0.32 Estimated 18-49 - 410,000 ( 61.93% ) Total Viewers - 662,000 9/23/2017 Lupin the 3rd - #30 (+3) Adults 18-34 Rating - 0.25 Estimated 18-34 - 170,000 ( 37.44% ) Adults 18-49 Rating - 0.20 Estimated 18-49 - 256,000 ( 56.39% ) Total Viewers - 454,000 JoJo's Bizarre Adventure: Stardust Crusaders hits a new high in everything but 18-34 and Lupin the 3rd hits a new low in 18-34. In fact, no "cable premiere" show in the SBD era (since 4/11/15) has posted a 0.25 or lower in 18-34--until today. Lupin finally has achieved that ignoble honor! While I really want Toonami to keep going with Lupin the 3rd and pick up the French Adventure (Part 5) when it's available (hell, maybe even boost it to a World Premiere this time), some measure of trepidation must be felt over Lupin the 3rd Part 4's low ratings. Gundam Unicorn bottomed out at a 0.27 18-34; hopefully this will be Lupin the 3rd's floor in Adult Swim's classic target demographic! Hopefully Gundam IBO can help out the situation with its return and give Hunter x Hunter and Lupin a boost (not to mention JoJo before it), but I guess we'll know in 2 weeks!
brianycpht Posted September 26, 2017 Posted September 26, 2017 So, last Saturday night we had a perfect night in trending, but would that translate to higher ratings? The answer is: yes, and no. http://www.showbuzzdaily.com/articles/showbuzzdailys-top-150-saturday-cable-originals-network-finals-9-23-2017.html 9/23/2017 Dragon Ball Super (8:30) #19 (-10) Adults 18-34 Rating - 0.33 Estimated 18-34 - 224,000 ( 28.61% ) Adults 18-49 Rating - 0.30 Estimated 18-49 - 385,000 ( 49.17% ) Total Viewers - 783,000 9/23/2017 DBZ Kai: Final Chapters #10 (STEADY) Adults 18-34 Rating - 0.50 Estimated 18-34 - 340,000 ( 41.11% ) Adults 18-49 Rating - 0.38 Estimated 18-49 - 487,000 ( 58.89% ) Total Viewers - 827,000 9/23/2017 JJBA: Stardust Crusaders - #13 (+1) Adults 18-34 Rating - 0.47 Estimated 18-34 - 319,000 ( 43.11% ) Adults 18-49 Rating - 0.36 Estimated 18-49 - 462,000 ( 62.43% ) Total Viewers - 740,000 9/23/2017 Tokyo Ghoul - #18 (-6) Adults 18-34 Rating - 0.42 Estimated 18-34 - 285,000 ( 43.05% ) Adults 18-49 Rating - 0.32 Estimated 18-49 - 410,000 ( 61.93% ) Total Viewers - 662,000 9/23/2017 Lupin the 3rd - #30 (+3) Adults 18-34 Rating - 0.25 Estimated 18-34 - 170,000 ( 37.44% ) Adults 18-49 Rating - 0.20 Estimated 18-49 - 256,000 ( 56.39% ) Total Viewers - 454,000 JoJo's Bizarre Adventure: Stardust Crusaders hits a new high in everything but 18-34 and Lupin the 3rd hits a new low in 18-34. In fact, no "cable premiere" show in the SBD era (since 4/11/15) has posted a 0.25 or lower in 18-34--until today. Lupin finally has achieved that ignoble honor! While I really want Toonami to keep going with Lupin the 3rd and pick up the Spanish Adventure (Part 5) when it's available (hell, maybe even boost it to a World Premiere this time), some measure of trepidation must be felt over Lupin the 3rd Part 4's low ratings. Hopefully Gundam IBO can help out the situation with its return and give Hunter x Hunter and Lupin a boost (not to mention JoJo before it), but I guess we'll know in 2 weeks! Not too bad this week As for Lupin, I don't think they were expecting it to be great due to its original 2:00 AM timeslot. The staff just really loves the show just like they love Gundam. They may have gotten a really good deal on it as well just so it can get some TV exposure before its Disc release next year. I wouldn't count out Part 5 either! The block is having a hard time securing the rights to a lot of shows due to streaming competituion and Lupin may be one of the things that they can still get without too much of a problem! Shippuden probably did a little better than Lupin, which will make it the 25th time it has beaten the show before it (I know this because a buddy of mine on Reddit likes to keep track of this and celebrate it every week in their ratings thread! > )
OwlChemist81 Posted September 26, 2017 Posted September 26, 2017 Part 5 is actually more likely to be called the "French Adventure" since it'll be set in France, not Spain. Sorry I screwed THAT up! http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2017-07-06/lupin-iii-gets-5th-anime-series-set-in-france/.118492
The1gairon Posted September 26, 2017 Posted September 26, 2017 I doubt GUNDAM IBO Season 2 will change anything. It's GUNDAM. It never does.
OwlChemist81 Posted September 26, 2017 Posted September 26, 2017 I dunno--a lot of people are looking forward to this dub! Who was looking forward to Tokyo Ghoul, again? It was too Bleach-head to be edgelord and too edgelord to be Bleach-head! (that said, I am re-watching Root A this week in anticipation of the finale this weekend, but I digress...) But at least you know what you're getting with Gundam IBO! Then again, AOT S2 didn't change anything, sooo...
brianycpht Posted September 26, 2017 Posted September 26, 2017 I dunno--a lot of people are looking forward to this dub! Who was looking forward to Tokyo Ghoul, again? It was too Bleach-head to be edgelord and too edgelord to be Bleach-head! (that said, I am re-watching Root A this week in anticipation of the finale this weekend, but I digress...) But at least you know what you're getting with Gundam IBO! Then again, AOT S2 didn't change anything, sooo... It'll probably just have a normal drop from Jojo. It could gain on it a little considering they've actually gone and promotd it more than a week out this time!
OwlChemist81 Posted September 26, 2017 Posted September 26, 2017 Lupin is shitting the bed yet again I don't know about you, but this would probably make ME shit my pants!
Blatch Posted September 26, 2017 Posted September 26, 2017 Yeah. If there's anyone one show that should be considered spoiling the sheets, it's the one with the gentleman thief. But it's down low enough that there isn't much they can do other than not air more of it.
Jman Posted September 26, 2017 Posted September 26, 2017 Lupin fails but hey, at least it isn’t Neo Yokio.
Daos Posted September 26, 2017 Posted September 26, 2017 89 percent retention for Jojo? Way better than normal. That monkey lusting after an underage girl must have created word of mouth.
OwlChemist81 Posted September 26, 2017 Posted September 26, 2017 89 percent retention for Jojo? Way better than normal. That monkey lusting after an underage girl must have created word of mouth. Sad but probably true. Well, the monkey part is sad. The result, not so much! We have more numbers: http://www.showbuzzdaily.com/articles/showbuzzdailys-top-150-saturday-cable-originals-network-finals-9-23-2017.html "In animation for an older crowd, Adult Swim performed as follows: DRAGON BALL Z up 0.02 to 0.38 and at 0.42/938K (the primetime editions down 0.06 to 0.30 and 0.21/583K), JOJO’S BIZARRE ADVENTURE up 0.05 to 0.36, TOKYO GHOUL down 0.01 to 0.32, LUPIN THE 3RD down 0.01 to 0.20, HUNTER X HUNTER down 0.04 to 0.23/499K, NARUTO steady at 0.21/456K, OUTLAW STAR up 0.01 to 0.18/405K, COWBOY BEBOP up 0.03 to 0.20/442K, and ATTACK ON TITAN up 0.02 to 0.19/447K." Putting this all together, we have: TOTAL VIEWERS RETENTION 8:00 PM Dragon Ball Super (NPOT) 583,000 8:30 PM Dragon Ball Super (NPOT) 783,000 (134.31%) 11:00 PM Dragon Ball Super 938,000 11:30 PM DBZ Kai: The Final Chapters 827,000 (88.17%) 12:00 AM JJBA: Stardust Crusaders 740,000 (89.48%) 12:30 AM Tokyo Ghoul 662,000 (89.46%) 1:00 AM Hunter × Hunter 499,000 (75.38%) 1:30 AM Lupin The 3rd 454,000 (90.98%) 2:00 AM Naruto: Shippuden 456,000 (100.44%) 2:30 AM Outlaw Star HD 405,000 (88.82%) 3:00 AM Cowboy Bebop HD 442,000 (109.14%) 3:30 AM Attack on Titan Season 2 447,000 (101.13%) TOONAMI TOTAL VIEWERS AVERAGE - 587,000 ADULTS 18-49 RETENTION 8:00 PM Dragon Ball Super (NPOT) 0.21 8:30 PM Dragon Ball Super (NPOT) 0.30 (142.86%) 10:30 PM Family Guy (NPOT) 11:00 PM Dragon Ball Super 0.42 11:30 PM DBZ Kai: The Final Chapters 0.39 (92.86%) 12:00 AM JJBA: Stardust Crusaders 0.36 (92.31%) 12:30 AM Tokyo Ghoul 0.32 (88.89%) 1:00 AM Hunter × Hunter 0.23 (71.88%) 1:30 AM Lupin The 3rd 0.20 (86.96%) 2:00 AM Naruto: Shippuden 0.21 (105.00%) 2:30 AM Outlaw Star HD 0.18 (85.71%) 3:00 AM Cowboy Bebop HD 0.20 (111.11%) 3:30 AM Attack on Titan Season 2 0.19 (95.00%) TOONAMI TOTAL VIEWERS AVERAGE - 0.27 Best numbers since the DBZ Kai marathon! The worst this week was Hunter x Hunter, believe it or not! And JoJo did even BETTER with its 18-49 retention, but those numbers shall be refined soon...
Daos Posted September 26, 2017 Posted September 26, 2017 So instead of Lupin taking a huge drop it was the show right before it this time. AoT reruns beating both Bebop and Outlaw with a worse timeslot.
Ginguy Posted September 26, 2017 Posted September 26, 2017 Well, I guess Jojo didn't shit all over everything this week. applause
Blatch Posted September 27, 2017 Posted September 27, 2017 That's some surprisingly good retention across the board. And the back end continues to gain between the shows, even if it's not a whole lot. I'm satisfied.
Misaka Posted September 27, 2017 Posted September 27, 2017 Wow Shippuden rebound from the failure of lupin
OwlChemist81 Posted September 27, 2017 Posted September 27, 2017 And now, wrapping it up: ADULTS 18-49 RETENTION 8:00 PM Dragon Ball Super (NPOT) 267,000 8:30 PM Dragon Ball Super (NPOT) 393,000 (147.19%) 10:30 PM Family Guy (NPOT) 694,000 11:00 PM Dragon Ball Super 547,000 (78.82%) 11:30 PM DBZ Kai: The Final Chapters 491,000 (89.76%) 12:00 AM JJBA: Stardust Crusaders 460,000 (93.69%) 12:30 AM Tokyo Ghoul 412,000 (89.57%) 1:00 AM Hunter × Hunter 293,000 (71.12%) 1:30 AM Lupin The 3rd 263,000 (89.76%) 2:00 AM Naruto: Shippuden 271,000 (103.04%) 2:30 AM Outlaw Star HD 233,000 (85.98%) 3:00 AM Cowboy Bebop HD 261,000 (112.02%) 3:30 AM Attack on Titan Season 2 246,000 (94.25%) TOONAMI TOTAL VIEWERS AVERAGE - 347,700 http://programminginsider.com/ratings/final-nationals/saturday-final-nationals-abc-continues-lead-prime-time-college-football/ CURRENT SHOW AVERAGES Total Viewers Dragon Ball Super (Prime Time Premieres) - 828,697 (33 episodes) Dragon Ball Super (Toonami) - 1,025,706 (34 episodes) Dragon Ball Z Kai: The Final Chapters - 948,514 (35 episodes) JoJo's Bizarre Adv.: Stardust Crusaders - 664,250 (8 episodes) Tokyo Ghoul - 663,783 (23 episodes) Hunter × Hunter - 762,358 (67 episodes) Lupin the 3rd - 496,154 (13 episodes) Naruto: Shippuden - 827,282 (172 episodes) Outlaw Star - 427,800 (5 episodes) Cowboy Bebop - 410,000 (3 episodes) Attack on Titan Season 2 Rerun - 354,000 (9 episodes) Adults 18-49 Dragon Ball Super (Prime Time Premieres) - 411,121 (31 episodes) Dragon Ball Super (Toonami) - 620,029 (32 episodes) Dragon Ball Z Kai: The Final Chapters - 572,257 (32 episodes) JoJo's Bizarre Adv.: Stardust Crusaders - 407,250 (8 episodes) Tokyo Ghoul - 405,261 (23 episodes) Hunter × Hunter - 455,209 (67 episodes) Lupin the 3rd - 289,692 (13 episodes) Naruto: Shippuden - 459,127 (155 episodes) Outlaw Star - 251,600 (5 episodes) Cowboy Bebop - 232,000 (3 episodes) Attack on Titan Season 2 Rerun - 238,333 (9 episodes) Adults 18-34 (Estimated) Dragon Ball Super (Prime Time Premieres) - 263,484 (29 episodes) Dragon Ball Z Kai: The Final Chapters - 386,743 (32 episodes) JoJo's Bizarre Adv.: Stardust Crusaders - 278,714 (7 episodes) Tokyo Ghoul - 274,909 (22 episodes) Lupin the 3rd - 197,091 (11 episodes) Nothing really of note, except Bebop keeps doing better every week, and Lupin is stuck until 200K 18-34, probably for good now. Super's average just keeps getting lower and lower, and I'd say it's quite possible no show's average will be in the millions by end of year (except Samurai Jack, of course, which is done.)
OwlChemist81 Posted October 3, 2017 Posted October 3, 2017 It's Tuesday, so did Toonami finish off September right? Well, sort of... http://www.showbuzzdaily.com/articles/showbuzzdailys-top-150-saturday-cable-originals-network-finals-9-30-2017.html 9/30/2017 Dragon Ball Super (8:30) #12 (+7) Adults 18-34 Rating - 0.38 Estimated 18-34 - 258,000 ( 33.59% ) Adults 18-49 Rating - 0.34 Estimated 18-49 - 436,000 ( 56.77% ) Total Viewers - 768,000 9/30/2017 DBZ Kai: Final Chapters #10 (STEADY) Adults 18-34 Rating - 0.44 Estimated 18-34 - 299,000 ( 38.38% ) Adults 18-49 Rating - 0.36 Estimated 18-49 - 462,000 ( 59.31% ) Total Viewers - 779,000 9/30/2017 JJBA: Stardust Crusaders - #19 (-6) Adults 18-34 Rating - 0.33 Estimated 18-34 - 224,000 ( 36.54% ) Adults 18-49 Rating - 0.28 Estimated 18-49 - 359,000 ( 58.56% ) Total Viewers - 613,000 9/30/2017 Tokyo Ghoul - #18 (STEADY) Adults 18-34 Rating - 0.36 Estimated 18-34 - 245,000 ( 40.63% ) Adults 18-49 Rating - 0.28 Estimated 18-49 - 359,000 ( 59.54% ) Total Viewers - 603,000 9/30/2017 Lupin the 3rd - #26 (+4) Adults 18-34 Rating - 0.33 Estimated 18-34 - 224,000 ( 42.91% ) Adults 18-49 Rating - 0.25 Estimated 18-49 - 321,000 ( 61.49% ) Total Viewers - 522,000 That's actually pretty huge for Lupin. Its highest 18-34 so far was 0.35, which means this is the 2nd highest! Still, nothing above 300K 18-34 or 500K 18-49 is pretty frustrating.
Jman Posted October 3, 2017 Posted October 3, 2017 Dammit Toei. The biggest competition this week was college football, and the news.
Misaka Posted October 3, 2017 Posted October 3, 2017 JoJo shit the bed yet again and lupin couldn't even keep the numbers from Tokyo ghoul Why is Demarco still in charge?
PokeNirvash Posted October 3, 2017 Posted October 3, 2017 Because we care way too much about arbitrary numbers to appreciate what he's trying to accomplish.
Ginguy Posted October 3, 2017 Posted October 3, 2017 What is DeMarco trying to accomplish? Watching Jojo soil the sheets every week? Maybe We'll get a super surprise and Toonami will get Black Clover....
brianycpht Posted October 3, 2017 Posted October 3, 2017 What is DeMarco trying to accomplish? Watching Jojo soil the sheets every week? Maybe We'll get a super surprise and Toonami will get Black Clover.... That's what irritates me about the current state of the block. We are missing out on new things. We already missed the boat on MHA and will probably also do so for Black Clover because the block has no room until January unless they expand again. Meanwhile Funimation won't wait and they'll put it up on their service which means even if Toonami gets it it won't be a dub premiere
Ginguy Posted October 3, 2017 Posted October 3, 2017 Could you imagine DBS, Black Clover and FLCL 2&3? Even if DBS is a rerun, that line up to start a block would be tremendous. Instead we get Rape Ape and the stained sheets stopping everything dead in its tracks. smh
brianycpht Posted October 3, 2017 Posted October 3, 2017 We can only dream. I just wish they would pick it up and move everything else down. Does it matter if Bebop and GiTS are at 3:30 and 4:00?
Jman Posted October 3, 2017 Posted October 3, 2017 Blame Toei, blame Toei, blame Toei. It’s their fault and everyone knows it.
Misaka Posted October 3, 2017 Posted October 3, 2017 Blame Toei, blame Toei, blame Toei and Demarco. It’s their fault and everyone knows it. fixed
Jman Posted October 3, 2017 Posted October 3, 2017 I’m now convinced the President in last weeks Rick and Morty was supposed to be DeMarco, pissed Rick and Morty run the block.
The1gairon Posted October 3, 2017 Posted October 3, 2017 That's what irritates me about the current state of the block. We are missing out on new things. We already missed the boat on MHA and will probably also do so for Black Clover because the block has no room until January unless they expand again. Meanwhile Funimation won't wait and they'll put it up on their service which means even if Toonami gets it it won't be a dub premiere See?? Fans were complaining about too many shonen long-runners for a REASON.
Blatch Posted October 3, 2017 Posted October 3, 2017 Black Clover would probably rate well, but I have no desire to see it on the block. I guess it's the most generic shonen to ever get this popular. shithead
MasqueradeOverture Posted October 3, 2017 Posted October 3, 2017 I guess it's the most generic shonen to ever get this popular. shithead I'm assuming that's why it's popular.
OwlChemist81 Posted October 3, 2017 Posted October 3, 2017 More numbers: http://www.showbuzzdaily.com/articles/showbuzzdailys-top-150-saturday-cable-originals-network-finals-9-30-2017.html "On Adult Swim, the line-up was as follows: in primetime, the DRAGON BALL episodes were up 0.01 to 0.22/600K and up 0.04 to 0.34, while in late-night, they were down 0.01 to 0.41 and down 0.06 to 0.36/779K, JOJO’S BIZARRE ADVENTURES fell 0.08 to 0.26 (incorrect; chart lists it correctly as 0.28), TOKYO GHOUL was down 0.04 to 0.28, HUNTER X HUNTER rose 0.03 to 0.26/603K, LUPIN THE 3RD was up 0.05 to 0.25, NARUTO was up 0.04 to 0.25/519K, OUTLAW STAR climbed 0.05 to 0.23/470K, COWBOY BEBOP was up 0.03 to 0.21/444K, and ATTACK ON TITAN ticked up to 0.18/418K." Oddly enough, no total viewer number for the 11 PM Dragon Ball Super yet this week. So now we have: 11:30 PM DBZ Kai: The Final Chapters 779,000 12:00 AM JJBA: Stardust Crusaders 613,000 (78.69%) 12:30 AM Tokyo Ghoul 603,000 (98.37%) 1:00 AM Hunter × Hunter 603,000 (100.00%) 1:30 AM Lupin The 3rd 522,000 (86.57%) 2:00 AM Naruto: Shippuden 519,000 (99.43%) 2:30 AM Outlaw Star HD 470,000 (90.56%) 3:00 AM Cowboy Bebop HD 444,000 (94.47%) 3:30 AM Attack on Titan Season 2 418,000 (94.14%) And for 18-49: 11:00 PM Dragon Ball Super 0.41 11:30 PM DBZ Kai: The Final Chapters 0.36 (87.80%) 12:00 AM JJBA: Stardust Crusaders 0.28 (77.78%) 12:30 AM Tokyo Ghoul 0.28 (100.00%) 1:00 AM Hunter × Hunter 0.26 (92.86%) 1:30 AM Lupin The 3rd 0.25 (96.15%) 2:00 AM Naruto: Shippuden 0.25 (100.00%) 2:30 AM Outlaw Star HD 0.23 (92.00%) 3:00 AM Cowboy Bebop HD 0.21 (91.30%) 3:30 AM Attack on Titan Season 2 0.18 (85.71%) TOONAMI ADULTS 18-49 AVERAGE - 0.27
CaptainStarwind Posted October 3, 2017 Posted October 3, 2017 It's gotten to the point where I'm not even surprised to see numbers like this anymore. If it's any consolation, Toonami won't be cancelled. If these numbers really were that terrible Adult Swim would have acted by now. I wouldn't worry, for those of you that still do.
MasqueradeOverture Posted October 3, 2017 Posted October 3, 2017 Retention's quite good, but this Super situation is still aggressively retarded.
brianycpht Posted October 3, 2017 Posted October 3, 2017 It's gotten to the point where I'm not even surprised to see numbers like this anymore. If it's any consolation, Toonami won't be cancelled. If these numbers really were that terrible Adult Swim would have acted by now. I wouldn't worry, for those of you that still do. It’s all relative to how Family Guy does (which doesn’t rise high due to a weaker prime time ). We’ll see when PI comes out later tonight.
The1gairon Posted October 3, 2017 Posted October 3, 2017 More numbers: http://www.showbuzzdaily.com/articles/showbuzzdailys-top-150-saturday-cable-originals-network-finals-9-30-2017.html "On Adult Swim, the line-up was as follows: in primetime, the DRAGON BALL episodes were up 0.01 to 0.22/600K and up 0.04 to 0.34, while in late-night, they were down 0.01 to 0.41 and down 0.06 to 0.36/779K, JOJO’S BIZARRE ADVENTURES fell 0.08 to 0.26 (incorrect; chart lists it correctly as 0.28), TOKYO GHOUL was down 0.04 to 0.28, HUNTER X HUNTER rose 0.03 to 0.26/603K, LUPIN THE 3RD was up 0.05 to 0.25, NARUTO was up 0.04 to 0.25/519K, OUTLAW STAR climbed 0.05 to 0.23/470K, COWBOY BEBOP was up 0.03 to 0.21/444K, and ATTACK ON TITAN ticked up to 0.18/418K." Oddly enough, no total viewer number for the 11 PM Dragon Ball Super yet this week. So now we have: 11:30 PM DBZ Kai: The Final Chapters 779,000 12:00 AM JJBA: Stardust Crusaders 613,000 (78.69%) 12:30 AM Tokyo Ghoul 603,000 (98.37%) 1:00 AM Hunter × Hunter 603,000 (100.00%) 1:30 AM Lupin The 3rd 522,000 (86.57%) 2:00 AM Naruto: Shippuden 519,000 (99.43%) 2:30 AM Outlaw Star HD 470,000 (90.56%) 3:00 AM Cowboy Bebop HD 444,000 (94.47%) 3:30 AM Attack on Titan Season 2 418,000 (94.14%) And for 18-49: 11:00 PM Dragon Ball Super 0.41 11:30 PM DBZ Kai: The Final Chapters 0.36 (87.80%) 12:00 AM JJBA: Stardust Crusaders 0.28 (77.78%) 12:30 AM Tokyo Ghoul 0.28 (100.00%) 1:00 AM Hunter × Hunter 0.26 (92.86%) 1:30 AM Lupin The 3rd 0.25 (96.15%) 2:00 AM Naruto: Shippuden 0.25 (100.00%) 2:30 AM Outlaw Star HD 0.23 (92.00%) 3:00 AM Cowboy Bebop HD 0.21 (91.30%) 3:30 AM Attack on Titan Season 2 0.18 (85.71%) TOONAMI ADULTS 18-49 AVERAGE - 0.27 Downside: Kai started the block off weak. What happened to the 800K and 900K??? Upside: This is probably the steadiest retention rate I ever seen on this block in weeks!
brianycpht Posted October 3, 2017 Posted October 3, 2017 It’s all relative to how Family Guy does (which doesn’t rise high due to a weaker prime time ). We’ll see when PI comes out later tonight. And sure enough Family Guy pulled in only 1.1 million viewers. Saturday is just weak overall and Toonami is paying the price. Ratings are an issue, but I’m more concerned about Demarcos Ask.fm statement that acquiring shows for the block is getting harder and harder. That’s what’s going to do Toonami in, a lack of content
PokeNirvash Posted October 4, 2017 Posted October 4, 2017 Now would be as good a time as any to go back to airing obscure stuff that deserves a wider audience. Say what you will about their quality, but the "unpredictables", as I like to call them, were never boring when revealed.
Ginguy Posted October 4, 2017 Posted October 4, 2017 And sure enough Family Guy pulled in only 1.1 million viewers. Saturday is just weak overall and Toonami is paying the price. Ratings are an issue, but I’m more concerned about Demarcos Ask.fm statement that acquiring shows for the block is getting harder and harder. That’s what’s going to do Toonami in, a lack of content That is probably due to streaming rights. Toonami should go after just broadcast rights, which are much easier to get. Netflix doesn't give a damn about broadcast rights.
Daos Posted October 4, 2017 Posted October 4, 2017 Damn, so only Super is going to be above 800k? That's hilariously bad. Remember the good ol days of like... a year ago... when One Piece was getting 800k? Lolz.
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