Mix Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 Yes, I can finally click on the spoilers holy shit! People did predict this possibility but watching the zombies lugging those giant chains from that frozen lake or whatever got me excited for shit to go down. Now one annoying thing in these last episodes is the increasing plot armor which most of these gritty fantasy stories suffer from towards their conclusion. The rushing to wrap up the show is also causing me to care less about the storylines unconnected to fighting the Night King. All the scheming now feels cartoonish because there's no time for subtlety like with the Sansa/Arya/Little Finger drama that just annoys me. don't let the lull trick you....people are for sure gonna start dying... also, where the hell did they get the chains....I mean it was a cool scene and all, but wtf.... Hey, do you think Sansa sent Brienne to Kings Landing so there would be no one around to protect Arya? I know this is unlikely, but I think she might be up to no good....Arya can tell if people are lying and when they played the game of faces, wouldn't you expect her to go "oh wait, you're telling the truth, you were forced to wright this stuff and didn't mean any of it"....instead she seemed unimpressed by Sansa's excuses.... more than likely though, I think Arya kills Baelish and wears his face throughout season 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MEXobiologist Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 also, where the hell did they get the chains....I mean it was a cool scene and all, but wtf.... that whole scene bothered the fuck outta me. where the hell those chains come from that quickly? especially chaings that fucking big... i mean, themselves they would have to be extremely long for the amount of walkers it would take to drag, both the weight in chain and the weight of a FUCKING DRAGON!? way too much suspension of belief in that scene for my comfort. but whatever i guess... TV. also, the shit with Jon and Daenerys is starting to gag me. its coming on too thick, don'tcha think? or maybe thats just me cuz i'm kinda like that with romancy things. AND BRAN! for fucks sake, the kid can possess living creatures. when he gonna get in a dragon yo? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MEXobiologist Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 Yes, I can finally click on the spoilers holy shit! People did predict this possibility but watching the zombies lugging those giant chains from that frozen lake or whatever got me excited for shit to go down. Now one annoying thing in these last episodes is the increasing plot armor which most of these gritty fantasy stories suffer from towards their conclusion. The rushing to wrap up the show is also causing me to care less about the storylines unconnected to fighting the Night King. All the scheming now feels cartoonish because there's no time for subtlety like with the Sansa/Arya/Little Finger drama that just annoys me. i think its a matter of cost. like, with two seasons left, where to you dump your money? the dragon and walker biz costs a shit ton to do. do you skimp on the battles that have to happen so that you can afford the extra build up, the scheming, information, and character development. i agree that its frustrating, i just think that is a very possible reason as to why. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DragonSinger Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 that whole scene bothered the fuck outta me. also, the shit with Jon and Daenerys is starting to gag me. its coming on too thick, don'tcha think? or maybe thats just me cuz i'm kinda like that with romancy things. Her at the wall waiting for Jon right after one of her dragons died did earn an eyeroll out of me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DragonSinger Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 i think its a matter of cost. like, with two seasons left, where to you dump your money? the dragon and walker biz costs a shit ton to do. do you skimp on the battles that have to happen so that you can afford the extra build up, the scheming, information, and character development. i agree that its frustrating, i just think that is a very possible reason as to why. The budget probably is a big issue this season, but I still wish that I could have all the nice things. The big battles, the beautiful dragons, and the story moving at a believable pace with less hand-waving. Why can't some nice billionaire make all of this happen? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mix Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 that whole scene bothered the fuck outta me. where the hell those chains come from that quickly? especially chaings that fucking big... i mean, themselves they would have to be extremely long for the amount of walkers it would take to drag, both the weight in chain and the weight of a FUCKING DRAGON!? way too much suspension of belief in that scene for my comfort. but whatever i guess... TV. also, the shit with Jon and Daenerys is starting to gag me. its coming on too thick, don'tcha think? or maybe thats just me cuz i'm kinda like that with romancy things. AND BRAN! for fucks sake, the kid can possess living creatures. when he gonna get in a dragon yo? So apparently chains like that are used to move ships in and out of water so they probably got them from the docks at hardhome...that's what the GOT forums say anyway >.> so far the Jon and Daenerys bit isn't coming off right 'cause it's forced as fuck....the writers are trying to start a fire where there's no spark.....it was either done better in the books or this is just a show plot line that they decided would please the fans and tie things up quicker... as far as Bran goes, the theories are nuts....what with him being able to affect things though out history....the craziest theory is that he is the Night King Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mix Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 This is a random question, but I can't help but ask it....assuming the world doesn't end and she comes out of this on top, what is Danny going to do with the Dothraki? She combined several khalasars to make her uber army and it's all good in the hood as long as they have a war to fight, but what happens in peace time....I don't think they're into farming '>.> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sawdamizer Posted August 21, 2017 Author Share Posted August 21, 2017 Fuck bitches? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mix Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 Fuck bitches? sure...fuck their bitches....your bitches...my bitches....then they decide that they need to get into a fight and maybe sack a city or two :-\ I feel like the next war Dany is going to fight is already queued up and ready to go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mix Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 oh snap, the finale is 2 hours long Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sawdamizer Posted August 21, 2017 Author Share Posted August 21, 2017 Question - is Benjen coldhands? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mix Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 Question - is Benjen coldhands? yeah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sawdamizer Posted August 21, 2017 Author Share Posted August 21, 2017 Oh for real? I've been struggling with the idea... the book is vague and they were always two separate people... I thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mix Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 Oh for real? I've been struggling with the idea... the book is vague and they were always two separate people... I thought. GOT forums refer to him as cold hands in discussions....haven't run across him in the books 'cause I stopped reading after book two, so I could binge read all of them when they came out.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sawdamizer Posted August 21, 2017 Author Share Posted August 21, 2017 lol @ The Hound Aggro'ing the horde, "Hol up, lemme get some health quick" - Party "Lemme throw dis rock quick and hurrrduuurrrrrhuurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!" - Hound Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarPanda Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 Night King is too op Arya just kill the bitch and little finger Dany is like no john not yet Not enough people died Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sawdamizer Posted August 21, 2017 Author Share Posted August 21, 2017 Looks like the last episode will be leaked tonight or tomorrow..... wahoooo!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarPanda Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 Haha that would be hilarious Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DragonSinger Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 *Sigh* Why do y'all keep forcing me to use self-control? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sawdamizer Posted August 22, 2017 Author Share Posted August 22, 2017 *Sigh* Why do y'all keep forcing me to use self-control? Two.... hour.... finale Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarPanda Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 Two.... hour.... finale 1 hour of talking between the 2 queens and John snow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sawdamizer Posted August 22, 2017 Author Share Posted August 22, 2017 1 hour of talking between the 2 queens and John snow 30 minutes of big fat floppy dicks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Raptorpat Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 A nonspecific number of nameless, voiceless extras appearing just in time to die instead of the eclectic ensemble of main characters? Magic timespan allowing Gendry to run back, send a raven, and for the cavalry to fly north all in the span of waiting for the lake to refreeze? You can tell they are working out the finer details themselves tv-style, because if grrm were still involved they'd each have their own name, backstory, and it would be a shock that they died just as it was not a shock that only the priest and a dragon died. What happened to the BWB anyways? Somehow it shrank to the three of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mix Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 A nonspecific number of nameless, voiceless extras appearing just in time to die instead of the eclectic ensemble of main characters? Magic timespan allowing Gendry to run back, send a raven, and for the cavalry to fly north all in the span of waiting for the lake to refreeze? You can tell they are working out the finer details themselves tv-style, because if grrm were still involved they'd each have their own name, backstory, and it would be a shock that they died just as it was not a shock that only the priest and a dragon died. What happened to the BWB anyways? Somehow it shrank to the three of them. To be fair, the moment Jon decided he would go up north, through the wall, capture a wight, and return south in time to have a chat with Cersie about fighting the Night King, all before the Dead Army attacks, it was clear we would no longer be following realistic time lines.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mix Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 *Sigh* Why do y'all keep forcing me to use self-control? Just watch it when it comes out...i'll shoot you a link Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarPanda Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 Leaked clip of the night King and his new dragon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sawdamizer Posted August 22, 2017 Author Share Posted August 22, 2017 Rumor has it... Arya or Sansa die in the season finale..... ???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mix Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 Rumor has it... Arya or Sansa die in the season finale..... ???? watcha say there.....Sansa dies.....tragic..................................welp, movin' on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sawdamizer Posted August 22, 2017 Author Share Posted August 22, 2017 watcha say there.....Sansa dies.....tragic..................................welp, movin' on Yeah pretty much... but if imagine little finger has a play in this tho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MEXobiologist Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 Rumor has it... Arya or Sansa die in the season finale..... ???? well, if that truly is the case, it will be Arya. i only say that because i know i'd prefer it to be Sansa and most of the people i want to see dead or could do without, remain alive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sawdamizer Posted August 22, 2017 Author Share Posted August 22, 2017 well, if that truly is the case, it will be Arya. i only say that because i know i'd prefer it to be Sansa and most of the people i want to see dead or could do without, remain alive. ?? that's actually my mindset too.... Like, arya is cool as shit... so she's gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MEXobiologist Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 ?? that's actually my mindset too.... Like, arya is cool as shit... so she's gone. yeah, my best hope is that Brienne or Podrick didn't actually leave winterfell and instead are waiting out the situation in the shadows. like, i hope she was smarter than that. clearly Sansa is having some insecurity issues over her role vs his siblings and Little Finger is just too conniving a presence to ignore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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MEXobiologist Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 her siblings* WHY IS THE EDIT FEATURE NOT WORKING KN[/member] ?!?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mix Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 I get what you guys are saying and normally I'd agree, but the reason why I don't think it will be Arya is that the show spent a ton of time setting her up. She's a faceless man, tons of opportunities there....Her connection with Jacquen Hagar and the faceless men, they're up to more stuff in the book and I imagine they show up again....Her Dire wolf has set up a giant wolf pack, I can't imagine that doesn't get used at some point in the story..... And Sansa....well she's got nothing to add to this story.....they could no longer refer to that character, like at all, and the story would be fine....if anything, a dramatic death would be her most memorable contribution aside from the rape... I'm not saying Arya lives to see the end of the series, just saying she's got plenty to contribute before it's all said and done.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarPanda Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 Arya is already dead tho she's seen some shit Watch if they do kill her she'll be back and be like suprise motherfuckers I am no one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master-Debater131 Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 ?? that's actually my mindset too.... Like, arya is cool as shit... so she's gone. Oh hey I like that charact.........and their dead Pretty much the entire damn show. And now my favorite Ginger is throwing up death flags all over the damn place. ::]:: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master-Debater131 Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 2 hour finale though....thats gonna be good. Really cannot wait till i get a chance to watch it......a few days after everyone else I know has Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mix Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 2 hour finale though....thats gonna be good. Really cannot wait till i get a chance to watch it......a few days after everyone else I know has on the plus side, watching it on Sunday can serve as a balm for what you'll experience on Saturday when you watch the love of your life beaten senseless for the better part of 36 mins... talkin 'bout Mayweather vs McGregor y'all !!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MEXobiologist Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 I haven't done the whole leak thing at all. I like looking forward to my sunday GoT parties > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MEXobiologist Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 I get what you guys are saying and normally I'd agree, but the reason why I don't think it will be Arya is that the show spent a ton of time setting her up. She's a faceless man, tons of opportunities there....Her connection with Jacquen Hagar and the faceless men, they're up to more stuff in the book and I imagine they show up again....Her Dire wolf has set up a giant wolf pack, I can't imagine that doesn't get used at some point in the story..... And Sansa....well she's got nothing to add to this story.....they could no longer refer to that character, like at all, and the story would be fine....if anything, a dramatic death would be her most memorable contribution aside from the rape... I'm not saying Arya lives to see the end of the series, just saying she's got plenty to contribute before it's all said and done.... I mean, it makes sense. I only even said arya cuz I feel like this damn show never takes anyone out that I want out. Lol. I have no actual theory on it. I do agree that Sansa seems to just about run her course of usefulness. I also feel like Cersei is not that far behind.... if her character continues at this pace anyway. She bores me these days. With the white walkers coming, I don't really see much future need for her role, other than a bridge to involve euron... or the mountain (dem bros gotta fight!)... for the time being anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mix Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 I mean, it makes sense. I only even said arya cuz I feel like this damn show never takes anyone out that I want out. Lol. I have no actual theory on it. I do agree that Sansa seems to just about run her course of usefulness. I also feel like Cersei is not that far behind.... if her character continues at this pace anyway. She bores me these days. With the white walkers coming, I don't really see much future need for her role, other than a bridge to involve euron... or the mountain (dem bros gotta fight!)... for the time being anyway. Cersei is the last big bad. By that I mean, even though the Night King is set up as the ultimate bad guy in the series, no one is invested in his death. Cersei on the other hand has seven seasons worth of character development backing her. Everybody is waiting for what is essentially the last big satisfying bad guy death. I don't think they're going to let us have it till the end of the eighth....giving her time to maybe do some more shit that reminds us how much we hate her, like maybe having Bronn killed or some other B level character we love.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sawdamizer Posted August 23, 2017 Author Share Posted August 23, 2017 You guys see the theory that bran is the night king? Makes sense kinda... which is Why he was attempted to be assassinated with the cats paw in the first season... there's a good y YouTube video on it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThisIdiot Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 I don't think bran is the night king..he's not the goddamn doctor....he might have a had in the creation though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mix Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 You guys see the theory that bran is the night king? Makes sense kinda... which is Why he was attempted to be assassinated with the cats paw in the first season... there's a good y YouTube video on it... I think we saw the same video...theory is kinda nuts right...gonna blow this whole thing out the water if true... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThisIdiot Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 just had a thought....does anybody else think that Baelish has kind of a ...stiff robotic motion to him? kinda like C-3PO in the way he turns and twists his head Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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DragonSinger Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 So this is where their traveling budget went. Honestly it was money well spent. That entire wall scene was mesmerizing, and zombie dragon is just the greatest fucking boss. Definitely happy that my girl Arya lived and got to cross a name off her list. I do wish that Euron had actually skipped out because that would have made him more human to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raptorpat Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 So this is where their traveling budget went. Honestly it was money well spent. That entire wall scene was mesmerizing, and zombie dragon is just the greatest fucking boss. Definitely happy that my girl Arya lived and got to cross a name off her list. I do wish that Euron had actually skipped out because that would have made him more human to me. We actually didn't see either of the two main cast characters die there. So are we going to begin next season with them looking down from the very edge of the hole in the wall unscathed or was that their unseen sendoff, a la the blackfish or syrio forel? As for the Littlefinger plot, the show finally wrapped up his bit of political intrigue now that we've more or less moved passed the point where it isn't a distraction. Except I kind of feel like the show was a bit unfair in that it built up all that tension between the two sisters and we are either left to believe it was a ploy all along or at some point they realized (via Bran apparently) the extent of his plot and turned the tables. But the way they played it out to hit the audience with that twist didn't necessarily make sense in reality without something missing, because in order to try and catch us as offguard as Littlefinger was, it required the show to leave that gap unclear. But they have made clear in interviews (usually when the vagueness of the timeline gets brought up) that they are now placing most of their priority on the flow of the story beats and kind of fudging the rest to make it work (presumably because they only had three or four main beats from GRRM to go off so they basically reverted to writing it like regular TV between hitting those beats), so at least they kind of admit they're doing it. Basically without GRRM's input, the tv writers are kind of struggling under the weight of the vastness of the show and are trying to tie it all up on their own and very quickly, so it's getting very TV-ie. I think on that note, my guess is that the whole plot to capture a wight and bring it south to work out a truce was contrived by the tv writers because GRRM knew in broad strokes that he was killing a dragon to blow the wall up and that he wanted the warring factions to meet at the table to try to work out a truce to fight the WWs, but hadn't figured out how to do either beyond that. So the tv writers had to find a way to check off both boxes in a constrained timeframe themselves, and that's why the whole concept and how it played out were so cartoonish compared to the rest of the series. Those are my immediate thoughts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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