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Jman Super Hero

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6 minutes ago, Raptorpat said:

 

Most of the ghouls in MAGA have run hard on isolation and avoiding foreign wars.  This is…the opposite of that.  Let’s see how loyal the base is.

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Raptorpat Monster Mutant

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28 minutes ago, Jman said:

Most of the ghouls in MAGA have run hard on isolation and avoiding foreign wars.  This is…the opposite of that.  Let’s see how loyal the base is.

consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds, of course

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stilgar Monster Mutant

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31 minutes ago, Jman said:

Most of the ghouls in MAGA have run hard on isolation and avoiding foreign wars.  This is…the opposite of that.  Let’s see how loyal the base is.

I mean, maga ghouls also love to bomb foreigners.

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Insipid Luminary

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32 minutes ago, Jman said:

Most of the ghouls in MAGA have run hard on isolation and avoiding foreign wars.  This is…the opposite of that.  Let’s see how loyal the base is.

This is indeed causing a bit of fracturing, but the majority of braindead magats will still follow him. Unfortunately, 30 percent is probably the bottom approval rating for Trump.

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Raptorpat Monster Mutant

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imagine if there were some sort of deal related to Iran's nuclear capabilities, let's call it a "nuclear deal"

and imagine if that nuclear deal would have prevented them from developing nuclear weapons while developing a direct diplomatic relationship and offering an opportunity to reintegrate with the world

and now envision that this nuclear deal would have been ten years old, but someone eight years ago decided to unilaterally revoke it because it was good rightwing politics

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Jman Super Hero

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28 minutes ago, stilgar said:

I mean, maga ghouls also love to bomb foreigners.

Some do, but a lot of their split with regular neocons besides being louder and dumber was their approach to foreign policy, like trashing USAID, something neocons viewed as soft power.

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1pooh4u Monster Mutant

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21 minutes ago, Raptorpat said:

they didn't brief any of the relevant congressional Democrats

Why did they shut them out?  Imagine if Dems had done that 
 

another thing, they said that after Iran’s strike on Israel their weapons stockpiles are depleted. So which is it? Is Iran weak and on life support or are they a threat w nuclear weapons? I don’t see how they could be both 

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Raptorpat Monster Mutant

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their convenient excuse is presumably "they aren't in the majority and aren't the committee chairs" but we know why they'd cut out the opposition party and they probably would have done it had the Democrats had either majority

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Jman Super Hero

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8 minutes ago, 1pooh4u said:

Why did they shut them out?  Imagine if Dems had done that 
 

another thing, they said that after Iran’s strike on Israel their weapons stockpiles are depleted. So which is it? Is Iran weak and on life support or are they a threat w nuclear weapons? I don’t see how they could be both 

This sounds like the Iraqi Osiris reactor incident again, where the objective is to prevent them from having nuclear technology, period, but not to go beyond that.

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1pooh4u Monster Mutant

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1 minute ago, Jman said:

This sounds like the Iraqi Osiris reactor incident again, where the objective is to prevent them from having nuclear technology, period, but not to go beyond that.

And they can’t have nuclear technology because why? Because they’re a Muslim theocracy? Idw them having nukes but shit can’t they at least have some nuclear power?

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Jman Super Hero

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2 minutes ago, 1pooh4u said:

And they can’t have nuclear technology because why? Because they’re a Muslim theocracy? Idw them having nukes but shit can’t they at least have some nuclear power?

In 1981 it was because Israel didn’t want to Saddam to have the bomb, and they feared any civilian nuclear enrichment would be covered for a bomb.  Same deal here.

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1pooh4u Monster Mutant

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11 minutes ago, Jman said:

In 1981 it was because Israel didn’t want to Saddam to have the bomb, and they feared any civilian nuclear enrichment would be covered for a bomb.  Same deal here.

Is it common for a country to allow their military and weapons be reduced to a joke, Their last strike, a year back or we was drones and now, reportedly they don’t have much to strike back with, all to pursue nuclear weapons?  
 

I don’t think any attack from Iran was imminent. 

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50 minutes ago, 1pooh4u said:

And they can’t have nuclear technology because why? Because they’re a Muslim theocracy? Idw them having nukes but shit can’t they at least have some nuclear power?

They did, and could have it in a world run by rational thinking adults, like we had during the Obama administration. Once his deal got scrapped, it only made sense for them to not trust us anymore and think their best option was to ramp up enrichment and move towards developing a nuclear weapon as a deterrent to preserve their regime. Sadly, I believe they were probably getting pretty close to a nuke and there's a really good chance if they got one they would use it at some point on Israel. Thing is we'll never know what the state of their nuclear program really was because some numbskull screwed up the deal and our ability to verify anything.

Always stamping out experts and truth, always creating doubt and fear whenever and wherever possible... I know he only really did it to try and erase any and all accomplishments of President Obama that he could, cuz his racist little peen couldn't stand that he was actually loved and seen as having been very successful by an actual majority of Americans, but it's totally in line with his greater M.O. when you think about it.

Once the light of truth is extinguished, makes it easy for them to make up whatever reality they want. The seeds of this situation were planted long ago, and now the warmongering Netanyahu's just taking advantage of the whole situation. Trump's given him a blank check and he's to no surprise cashing it in now by maneuvering him into dropping these bombs. Violence always begets more violence though, and it's just a matter of time before we pay a price for this I believe. Even if we have them backed into the proverbial corner, I really doubt Iran is just going to fold. At some point, in some way, they'll be striking back cuz it's just human nature.

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naraku360 Monster Mutant

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1 hour ago, 1pooh4u said:

another thing, they said that after Iran’s strike on Israel their weapons stockpiles are depleted. So which is it? Is Iran weak and on life support or are they a threat w nuclear weapons? I don’t see how they could be both 

It depends on their mood.

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Jman Super Hero

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I think it’s telling that Greene of all people condemned the strikes, but she’s eyeball deep in the MAGA Kool Aid to the point she thinks they’re serious.

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1 hour ago, Raptorpat said:

their convenient excuse is presumably "they aren't in the majority and aren't the committee chairs" but we know why they'd cut out the opposition party and they probably would have done it had the Democrats had either majority

Did somebody pull that app from Hegseth's phone?

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31 minutes ago, naraku360 said:

Trump's.

Trump is going to keep bombing Iran because no one gave him a Nobel Peace Prize. That’s the man child we’re dealing with. Iran might be just as fucked as we are. 

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tsar4 Monster Mutant

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To: whoever merged my post with someone else's.  Not a fan of using their Subject, making it look like I created it.  If you're going to use another persons post for a merge, you should use the person's name that created the subject.

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14 hours ago, 1pooh4u said:

Unconfirmed reports are coming in stating Iran claims the Fordow facility has been empty for a long time and it’s stock pile relocated 

lmao. 

and if you don't think for 1 second that decades of intel, THIS little tidbit would escape?

no. it would not. 

the problem though, is not so much the country, but the extremists in this country. now...again, i'm SURE that the intel is there, but for political pomp and circumstance...

lets just watch. 

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Sieg67 Luminary

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39 minutes ago, MasqueradeOverture said:

Gas shot up $.30 here overnight.

what the fuck

Gas execs: If you could just bomb the Middle East to justify raising gas, that'd be great.

In other news, I just got an electric car. 

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Jman Super Hero

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15 minutes ago, Sieg67 said:

Gas execs: If you could just bomb the Middle East to justify raising gas, that'd be great.

In other news, I just got an electric car. 

Part of me thinks that why the strait won’t be closed.  It’s another incentive for electric and hybrid vehicles to replace the old ICE, and nothing changes habits faster than being priced out.   Long term damage to demand.

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Raptorpat Monster Mutant

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27 minutes ago, 1pooh4u said:

But to answer topically there are reports that say this was just a save face strike. Iran gave plenty of notice. They used the same amount of bombs or missiles that the US used. In other words their response said “we don’t want to escalate this”

I feel like I saw somewhere that the US back channelled Iran at the onset so they could evacuate before the initial bombing.

Basically a lot of it feels like kabuki theater.

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1pooh4u Monster Mutant

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18 minutes ago, Raptorpat said:

I feel like I saw somewhere that the US back channelled Iran at the onset so they could evacuate before the initial bombing.

Basically a lot of it feels like kabuki theater.

I read somewhere that because Trump was yakking it up on social media, Iran had moved its enriched uranium long ago. Either is possible because we’re in a dumb dumb timeline 

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