molarbear Posted Sunday at 05:23 AM Posted Sunday at 05:23 AM On 8/22/2025 at 6:49 PM, tsar4 said: I was all about this breath of fresh energy, until I got a text from the DNC from Gavin that said "Hello, I'm gavin and I'm upsetting the right at the moment. Donate any amount to show you're with me in this fight." It's just kind of like..... Remember when that didn't help at all during the presidential election? Can we maybe not just immediately go to asking for donations whenever there is even the slightest whiff of momentum? Could we reserve those texts for people in a higher pay grade, possibly? Homie, your party's dismal performance in the last elections is one of the reasons my wallet is hurting 5 Quote
tsar4 Posted Sunday at 06:24 PM Posted Sunday at 06:24 PM Seems like I'd heard the phrase, "They will eat their own" somewhere... 3 Quote
tsar4 Posted Sunday at 09:14 PM Posted Sunday at 09:14 PM (edited) Soft Secession, anyone? https://mikebakerlaw.com/blog/2025/08/22/soft-secession-vs-soft-fascism-how-states-quietly-resist-federal-overreach/ Edited Sunday at 09:21 PM by tsar4 2 Quote
discolé monade Posted Sunday at 10:56 PM Posted Sunday at 10:56 PM (edited) "Chicago is a mess. You have an incompetent mayor, grossly incompetent, and we'll straighten that one out probably next," Trump said. The Post reported Saturday that Pentagon officials have for weeks been planning a deployment to Chicago that could involve sending thousands of National Guard troops to the city as early as September. Deploying active-duty troops has also been considered, the paper reported. Edited Sunday at 10:57 PM by discolé monade 1 Quote
molarbear Posted yesterday at 01:30 AM Posted yesterday at 01:30 AM 2 hours ago, discolé monade said: "Chicago is a mess. You have an incompetent mayor, grossly incompetent, and we'll straighten that one out probably next," Trump said. The Post reported Saturday that Pentagon officials have for weeks been planning a deployment to Chicago that could involve sending thousands of National Guard troops to the city as early as September. Deploying active-duty troops has also been considered, the paper reported. Semi complicated question, hoping you may have some form of an answer being prior military What happens if a state mobilizes its national guard and refuses to allow them in? Would that be viewed as treason since they would be defying a federal order? 1 Quote
discolé monade Posted yesterday at 02:31 AM Posted yesterday at 02:31 AM 44 minutes ago, molarbear said: Semi complicated question, hoping you may have some form of an answer being prior military What happens if a state mobilizes its national guard and refuses to allow them in? Would that be viewed as treason since they would be defying a federal order? all i'm gonna' say is kent state. look, what i DO know is that if orders came down while i was in, i would have gone with conscientious objector and taken my chances during request mast/office hours, the president is mobilizing them, for 2 different reasons. 1 for ice assist - it would seem weapons were issued, not cool 2 for removal of american citizens - side arms WERE issued, and that's scary. we're talking national guard, that get together a weekend out of the month, and good party times 2 weeks out of the year. i don't see this ending well...but that's not what you asked no, it wouldn't be treason, the gov. can deny access, as long as the guard was not federalized if so, then gov. has no authorization over their own guard. but i don't think treason fits. tl:dr yeah...this is NOT good. like at all. 2 Quote
molarbear Posted yesterday at 05:09 AM Posted yesterday at 05:09 AM 2 hours ago, discolé monade said: all i'm gonna' say is kent state. look, what i DO know is that if orders came down while i was in, i would have gone with conscientious objector and taken my chances during request mast/office hours, the president is mobilizing them, for 2 different reasons. 1 for ice assist - it would seem weapons were issued, not cool 2 for removal of american citizens - side arms WERE issued, and that's scary. we're talking national guard, that get together a weekend out of the month, and good party times 2 weeks out of the year. i don't see this ending well...but that's not what you asked no, it wouldn't be treason, the gov. can deny access, as long as the guard was not federalized if so, then gov. has no authorization over their own guard. but i don't think treason fits. tl:dr yeah...this is NOT good. like at all. I honestly think this is what they're going for already. It wasn't working, so they keep feeding this myth to the media that these towns are lawless thunderdomes and I assuming they're hoping someone gets anxious and trigger happy. They don't care who, they're just looking for a reason My question, though, more about the national guard orders I thought they were state militias that took orders from the governor? My question is more along of lines of if they try to send national guard in from other states, and the illinois governor has their national guard meet them and say "hell nah...gtfo" Who has authority? Would the summoned national guard from other states be federal troops at that point? 2 Quote
Raptorpat Posted yesterday at 10:16 AM Posted yesterday at 10:16 AM "I'm going to end the weaponization of justice" 2 Quote
discolé monade Posted yesterday at 02:28 PM Posted yesterday at 02:28 PM (edited) 9 hours ago, molarbear said: I honestly think this is what they're going for already. It wasn't working, so they keep feeding this myth to the media that these towns are lawless thunderdomes and I assuming they're hoping someone gets anxious and trigger happy. They don't care who, they're just looking for a reason My question, though, more about the national guard orders I thought they were state militias that took orders from the governor? My question is more along of lines of if they try to send national guard in from other states, and the illinois governor has their national guard meet them and say "hell nah...gtfo" Who has authority? Would the summoned national guard from other states be federal troops at that point? if prez called in ntl guard from a specific state, gov has no authority over his guard. if prez called in guard from another state and attempted to invade a state and gov called in his ntl guard, then, i think i would be more concerned if pres succeeded. however (and luckily?) it is against the law and unconstitutional for the pres. to 'invade' within the interior. what trump is doing is right at the tippy toe line, against fed. mandates. arming those ntl guard in DC is by design. these folks do NOT train for this type of situation. never has any base, camp, detachment, or fort that i've ever trained at, train you to be armed against american civilians - i'm not saying that we're not trained to handle hostile IF NEEDED. BUT...and that's a HUGE but, there are all kinds of protocols in place before *insert diety of choice* forbid, that would be needed. when we were requested by the gov. for the LA riots, our ONLY "weapons" were batons, shields/helmets. that's it. hand to hand was the extent of force. because you know...american citizens. Edited yesterday at 02:34 PM by discolé monade lol...channeling my inner mr hoonie. 2 Quote
1pooh4u Posted yesterday at 04:44 PM Posted yesterday at 04:44 PM 6 hours ago, Raptorpat said: "I'm going to end the weaponization of justice" “No one is above the law” 😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆 does he ever even hear himself? 😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆 3 Quote
1pooh4u Posted yesterday at 04:53 PM Posted yesterday at 04:53 PM This shit ain’t funny though. Mandating torture “treatment” be paid for by insurance companies while barring medically based and accepted treatments https://www.govexec.com/pay-benefits/2025/08/coverage-gender-affirming-care-will-be-eliminated-fehb-plans-2026/407553/ well at least if someone is already getting treatment they’re still going to be covered but for how long? Quote
scoobdog Posted yesterday at 05:20 PM Posted yesterday at 05:20 PM 12 hours ago, molarbear said: I honestly think this is what they're going for already. It wasn't working, so they keep feeding this myth to the media that these towns are lawless thunderdomes and I assuming they're hoping someone gets anxious and trigger happy. They don't care who, they're just looking for a reason My question, though, more about the national guard orders I thought they were state militias that took orders from the governor? My question is more along of lines of if they try to send national guard in from other states, and the illinois governor has their national guard meet them and say "hell nah...gtfo" Who has authority? Would the summoned national guard from other states be federal troops at that point? You mean like Cal Guard facing off against the California National Guard? 2 Quote
discolé monade Posted yesterday at 06:34 PM Posted yesterday at 06:34 PM 1 hour ago, scoobdog said: You mean like Cal Guard facing off against the California National Guard? still can't happen. by law, that is. IF that is the scenerio...than we're in bigger trouble than treason. and treason would only apply if gov. were to lose. right? maybe? fuck..you know..i don't even know anymore. because everying i knew through service and life has literally been turned sideways...not quite upside down.. but def. sideways. ntl guard, called on the homeless and mentally ill. never in my fucking life time. 2 Quote
discolé monade Posted yesterday at 06:40 PM Posted yesterday at 06:40 PM and heeeerrrreeee weeee goooooo https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/08/prosecuting-burning-of-the-american-flag/ 2 Quote
scoobdog Posted yesterday at 07:20 PM Posted yesterday at 07:20 PM 47 minutes ago, discolé monade said: still can't happen. by law, that is. IF that is the scenerio...than we're in bigger trouble than treason. and treason would only apply if gov. were to lose. right? maybe? fuck..you know..i don't even know anymore. because everying i knew through service and life has literally been turned sideways...not quite upside down.. but def. sideways. ntl guard, called on the homeless and mentally ill. never in my fucking life time. Not to put words in Molar's mouth here, but there is theoretically at least one way in which a state militia or state reserve could impede the state's national guard without directly conflicting with it (which seems to be functionally impossible in addition to being illegal). Using California as an example, many but not all Cal Guard members hold standing in the National Guard. If Cal Guard is deployed to do its thing before Trump decides to mobilize the National Guard, there is a potential for conflicting orders and some Cal Guard members who would be following only the governor. It's more of a technical than a practical issue, nonetheless Newsome could hamstring the military operating inside its own borders at least initially. It's uncharted territory so there's no real way of knowing what would happen if it were to come up. One other thing to bring up since Hogseth (oink oink) is an inompetent bigoted drunk - a state governor deploying his state's reserve guard necessitates the DoD actually following military protocol. In California (and presumably everywhere else the NG was deployed), DoD did not issue official orders prior to mobilization. I assume it was either a cheap tactic to show force either due to the questionable legal nature of the declared state of emergency, due to a lack of budget to pay deployed troops, or a combination of the two, but even if it was just an oversight bred by incompetence, it would further delay any federal command. 2 1 Quote
1pooh4u Posted yesterday at 07:28 PM Posted yesterday at 07:28 PM 45 minutes ago, discolé monade said: and heeeerrrreeee weeee goooooo https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/08/prosecuting-burning-of-the-american-flag/ We should just go out and burn all the American flags now. our country sucks with its unclear rulings. Flag burning is protected speech but not if it incites violence aka “fighting words” this will go before the SC and will surprise no one when they say “flag burning isn’t protected speech” which it is but they will say it’s not. 3 Quote
rpgamer Posted yesterday at 09:23 PM Posted yesterday at 09:23 PM 4 hours ago, 1pooh4u said: This shit ain’t funny though. Mandating torture “treatment” be paid for by insurance companies while barring medically based and accepted treatments https://www.govexec.com/pay-benefits/2025/08/coverage-gender-affirming-care-will-be-eliminated-fehb-plans-2026/407553/ well at least if someone is already getting treatment they’re still going to be covered but for how long? If we're stuck with suffering this bullshit, I'd be on board with some more malicious compliance. Erectile dysfunction meds banned. Hair loss treatments banned. If shit is word-for-word promoted to "make you feel more like a man," that's literally gender affirming care. 2 3 Quote
discolé monade Posted yesterday at 10:47 PM Posted yesterday at 10:47 PM 3 hours ago, scoobdog said: Not to put words in Molar's mouth here, but there is theoretically at least one way in which a state militia or state reserve could impede the state's national guard without directly conflicting with it (which seems to be functionally impossible in addition to being illegal). Using California as an example, many but not all Cal Guard members hold standing in the National Guard. If Cal Guard is deployed to do its thing before Trump decides to mobilize the National Guard, there is a potential for conflicting orders and some Cal Guard members who would be following only the governor. It's more of a technical than a practical issue, nonetheless Newsome could hamstring the military operating inside its own borders at least initially. It's uncharted territory so there's no real way of knowing what would happen if it were to come up. One other thing to bring up since Hogseth (oink oink) is an inompetent bigoted drunk - a state governor deploying his state's reserve guard necessitates the DoD actually following military protocol. In California (and presumably everywhere else the NG was deployed), DoD did not issue official orders prior to mobilization. I assume it was either a cheap tactic to show force either due to the questionable legal nature of the declared state of emergency, due to a lack of budget to pay deployed troops, or a combination of the two, but even if it was just an oversight bred by incompetence, it would further delay any federal command. ok...but see, now we're going around our elbow to get to our asses. i guess i thought i was saying something along those lines. this avenue is now too diluted to understand who would be correct...except what i know is that cal guard, and any other state guard fall under national guard....so, now we're playing with a timeclock? that is who gets orders first. and either way, gov has full play on that....i thought. 2 Quote
discolé monade Posted yesterday at 10:49 PM Posted yesterday at 10:49 PM 3 hours ago, 1pooh4u said: We should just go out and burn all the American flags now. our country sucks with its unclear rulings. Flag burning is protected speech but not if it incites violence aka “fighting words” this will go before the SC and will surprise no one when they say “flag burning isn’t protected speech” which it is but they will say it’s not. i look around at all the cross lit, flag waving patriots here. most of the 'flags' usually sit in tatters for a couple weeks...until someone changes them. this is another distraction. 2 2 Quote
discolé monade Posted 22 hours ago Posted 22 hours ago 20 minutes ago, Raptorpat said: btw...this is RICH coming from the biggest ....well..you know. 1 2 Quote
Raptorpat Posted 21 hours ago Posted 21 hours ago 32 minutes ago, discolé monade said: btw...this is RICH coming from the biggest ....well..you know. it's so painfully blatantly obvious in Russia, problematic people "fall out windows" - and in magaland, black Democrats in positions to check and balance "commit mortgage fraud" 2 2 Quote
1pooh4u Posted 21 hours ago Posted 21 hours ago 1 hour ago, Raptorpat said: Because she’s a middle aged Black woman, that’s why he fired her for alleged “mortgage fraud” 3 Quote
1pooh4u Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago 3 hours ago, discolé monade said: i look around at all the cross lit, flag waving patriots here. most of the 'flags' usually sit in tatters for a couple weeks...until someone changes them. this is another distraction. I was thinking about that too I see so many American flags waving in front of homes all hours and all weather in all fucked up conditions. Maybe I’ll go around and collect those flags and burn them. Put them out of their misery already. 3 Quote
discolé monade Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago well...she's not THAT old... but she is very black, indeed. 1 1 Quote
André Toulon Posted 19 hours ago Posted 19 hours ago 🤦🏿♂️🤷🏿♂️ So were just making pedophilia great again. Who wrote this and said "yeah, this is what the people want"....Fucking hate it here. 2 2 Quote
1pooh4u Posted 19 hours ago Posted 19 hours ago 1 hour ago, discolé monade said: well...she's not THAT old... but she is very black, indeed. The pic I saw of her in the NYP she looked older. Definitely middle aged 😆and if there’s anything I learned about women in Trump’s orbit is this, if he doesn’t want to fuck them or wouldn’t fuck them anymore, they’re disposable 1 Quote
1pooh4u Posted 19 hours ago Posted 19 hours ago 33 minutes ago, André Toulon said: 🤦🏿♂️🤷🏿♂️ So were just making pedophilia great again. Who wrote this and said "yeah, this is what the people want"....Fucking hate it here. The person who wrote that piece must’ve worked on the set of the movie “cuties” 2 2 Quote
1pooh4u Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago Trump says “maybe many Americans would like a dictator” https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/trump-suggests-americans-dictator-185030637.html 1 3 Quote
1pooh4u Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago (edited) Trump making a few threats against NYC. He’s threatening to send in the National Guard and now he’s threatening to withhold federal funds if we don’t get rid of cashless bail cashless bail isn’t without issues. It was presented as something only for nonviolent crime which I was all for. Idk exactly all the issues but I think some crimes we would see as violent might not have been classified that way and judges didn’t have discretion but Hochul claims to have rewritten some of the laws. One thing I do know is that there was never cashless bail for crimes such as murder, like Trump claims https://ny1.com/nyc/all-boroughs/politics/2025/08/26/reckless---ny-gov-pushes-back-on-trump-s-cashless-bail-funding-threat--nyc-mayoral-candidates-react Jessica Tisch, the police commissioner of nyc (yes she’s from the wealthy af Tisch family) says “the NYPD doesn’t need the National Guard” Edited 9 hours ago by 1pooh4u Forgot to say what the nepo commissioner said 2 1 Quote
discolé monade Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago trump is such a fucking joke. and we are the punch line. 3 Quote
1pooh4u Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago 7 minutes ago, discolé monade said: trump is such a fucking joke. and we are the punch line. Yup. He dgaf. He stays saying dumb shit. Anything to deflect and distract. He’s a real fuckin asshole 2 Quote
Raptorpat Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 1 hour ago, 1pooh4u said: now he’s threatening to withhold federal funds if we don’t get rid of cashless bail the thing about cashless bail is that it isn't really about the bail, it's about when *pre-trial* detention is appropriate in a society where defendants are innocent until proven guilty. there are certain crimes where the defendant is a clear danger, like murder etc. but the point of cash bail is to address like flight risks. if you put $X000 down you're less likely to skip out because you want your money back. but it effectively creates an off-the-books crime of being too poor to afford bail. two-tiered justice and all that. so this is just yet another example of maga dipshits not caring about "law and order" and really only caring about "order". 3 Quote
Raptorpat Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago yes, and let's also not forget that they plainly don't believe in white collar crime as a general rule (unless it's mortgage fraud) 4 Quote
1pooh4u Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago It’s amazing what assholes are willing to believe. The insanely wealthy get billions of our tax dollars to fund their projects, commit fraud which further costs us and then they exploit tax loopholes so that they pay nothing or close to nothing in federal taxes, but it’s the people on Medicaid and foodstamps that are why you don’t have a job or eggs are $9 a dozen. NYC bail reform is not the reason why the federal minimum wage hasn’t gone up in almost a quarter century. It’s not the reason why everything costs more. It’s bullshit nonsense 1 3 Quote
discolé monade Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 42 minutes ago, Raptorpat said: yes, and let's also not forget that they plainly don't believe in white collar crime as a general rule (unless it's mortgage fraud) .....well...for black folk in positions of power..... 2 Quote
discolé monade Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago handsmaid tale isn't so fictional anymore......j/s 1 Quote
discolé monade Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago chi-town enters the chat In his remarks, Pritzker warned the president not to come to Chicago and said, "if you hurt my people, nothing will stop me - not time or political circumstance - from making sure that you face justice under our constitutional rule of law." 2 Quote
discolé monade Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago and finally Postal services around the world suspend deliveries to US: how will it affect you? 1 Quote
1pooh4u Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 58 minutes ago, discolé monade said: and finally Postal services around the world suspend deliveries to US: how will it affect you? This is the result of his bullshit chaotic and unclear tariff enforcement and exemptions. Postal service delivery was supposed to be exempt from tariffs but no one knows exactly wtf that means so a few countries said “fuck this I’m out until you get this shit sorted out” 1 1 Quote
discolé monade Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 25 minutes ago, 1pooh4u said: This is the result of his bullshit chaotic and unclear tariff enforcement and exemptions. Postal service delivery was supposed to be exempt from tariffs but no one knows exactly wtf that means so a few countries said “fuck this I’m out until you get this shit sorted out” and by design, we start getting seperated from the world..... *i am wearing my beautiful foil chapeau on most days* 2 Quote
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