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Smoke Has No Smell and Other Signs I Shouldn’t Be Involved in Economics

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Sieg67 Luminary

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  On 12/9/2024 at 1:10 AM, katt_goddess said:

Republicans voted against it because they see nothing wrong with higher prices. 

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Or there are people filling their pockets.
Or Republicans want to sabotage any progress to hurt Democrats politically.

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smiradenius Elder

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  On 12/9/2024 at 1:10 AM, katt_goddess said:

You don't need that. You can look up the voting on H.R. 7688, the Consumer Fuel Price Gouging Prevention Act, yourself since you won't believe anything anyone actually links to you. Plus at this point someone is going to link you to an elephant taking a dump on someone anyway.  

Republicans voted against it because they see nothing wrong with higher prices. 

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Okay, so they turned down an unnecessary, superfluous bill that would have bankrupted the oil companies by compelling them to sell at a loss?

 

Got it.

André Toulon Monster Mutant

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  On 12/9/2024 at 1:09 AM, smiradenius said:

Is everybody who has ever patronized a speakeasy a criminal?

 

Did you see how prohibition has actually been overthrown?

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Ok, this is fucking dumb.....😄

I think since you only seem to understand very specific, off the hip, insane hypotheticals....what do you think will happen if you go into a police station and say "I buy illegal cigarettes, and this is where I get them?"

Oh worst yet, what if I was on some Karen shit and called crime stoppers to your dwelling because I believe bootleg smokes are being distributed there.

If the police are the crack team of solving frivolous dog dick crimes that you think they are, you'd be scooped up in seconds.

 

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smiradenius Elder

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  On 12/9/2024 at 1:21 AM, Sieg67 said:

You mean alternative facts.

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Fact:  Biden killed the pipelines.

Fact:  Oil is now largely transported by truck or train, which costs considerably more.

Fact:  Biden has been deliberately withholding permits and/or leases for more drilling, which causes lost productivity and adds the new experiences of paying rent for lands that the oil companies are not allowed to drill on.

Fact:  The three above mentioned factors are issues that can only be addressed with substantial price hikes.

Fact:  Trump plans to end the Biden policies.

 

Fact:  If Trump is successful in his bid, the price of gas and oil will drop and the electric companies and other businesses that depend on oil will again be able to cut their prices.

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smiradenius Elder

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  On 12/9/2024 at 1:26 AM, André Toulon said:

Ok, this is fucking dumb.....😄

I think since you only seem to understand very specific, off the hip, insane hypotheticals....what do you think will happen if you go into a police station and say "I buy illegal cigarettes, and this is where I get them?"

Oh worst yet, what if I was on somthere Karen shit and called crime stoppers to your dwelling because I believe bootleg smokes are being distributed there.

If the police are the crack team of solving frivolous dog dick crimes that you think they are, you'd be scooped up in seconds.

 

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Prohibition was a hypothetical?

 

Unlike you, I knew my great grandparents personally and they lived through it.  It  wasn't some imaginary thing, only seen in flickering old movies.

 

 

André Toulon Monster Mutant

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  On 12/9/2024 at 1:35 AM, smiradenius said:

Prohibition was a hypothetical?

 

Unlike you, I knew my great grandparents personally and they lived through it.  It  wasn't some imaginary thing, only seen in flickering old movies.

 

 

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Goddamn you're a fucking moron. This is actually how you read that?

Please, show me just how deep this can go....I'm actually fascinated at this point. 

This isn't regular stupidity. This is like a stupid person pretending to be stupid but is legitimately too stupid to realize his real stupidity is showing.

I can't wait to see which Pokemon hatches next

I'll ignore the mild racism.... because for what reason would I not know my grandparents.

 

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smiradenius Elder

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  On 12/9/2024 at 1:44 AM, André Toulon said:

Goddamn you're a fucking moron. This is actually how you read that?

Please, show me just how deep this can go....I'm actually fascinated at this point. 

This isn't regular stupidity. This is like a stupid person pretending to be stupid but is legitimately too stupid to realize his real stupidity is showing.

I can't wait to see which Pokemon hatches next

I'll ignore the mild racism.... because for what reason would I not know my grandparents.

 

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I specifically said, GREAT grandparents, meaning that most of such relatives are already dead before the fourth generation is even born.

Sieg67 Luminary

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  On 12/9/2024 at 1:31 AM, smiradenius said:

Fact:  Biden killed the pipelines.  There are 160 pipelines in the U.S. with 22 more being developed.   The keystone pipeline that everybody likes to harp about carried tar sands to Canada.

Fact:  Oil is now largely transported by truck or train, which costs considerably more.  Well it's a good thing we still have all of those pipes.

Fact:  Biden has been deliberately withholding permits and/or leases for more drilling, which causes lost productivity and adds the new experiences of paying rent for lands that the oil companies are not allowed to drill on.  The U.S. is producing more oil than ever and more than any other country.   This is an effort to be self reliant and not depend on other countries like Russia.   At the same time, Biden invested in our power infrastructure to better ween ourselves off of or become less reliant on  oil.  Trump is going to stifle that progress.

Fact:  The three above mentioned factors are issues that can only be addressed with substantial price hikes.  You clearly don't understand how anything works.

Fact:  Trump plans to end the Biden policies.  Trump plans to end drilling?

 

Fact:  If Trump is successful in his bid, the price of gas and oil will drop and the electric companies and other businesses that depend on oil will again be able to cut their prices.

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  On 12/9/2024 at 1:53 AM, Sieg67 said:

 

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None of what you say is true at this time.

And no, solar panels and windmills are never going to have any meaningful impact in terms of meeting our energy needs.  It just simply isn't feasible.  Try powering only the city of Fresno with nothing but solar or wind alone, and just like every place else it has been tried, and you're going to get nothing but chronic blackouts, brownouts and kwh rationing.

 

On a related note, here's your solar sun god.

 

 

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André Toulon Monster Mutant

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  On 12/9/2024 at 1:50 AM, smiradenius said:

I specifically said, GREAT grandparents, meaning that most of such relatives are already dead before the fourth generation is even born.

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My grandmother was born in 1923, my grandfather even before that, my mother was born in the 50s, me in the 70s. My grandparents were both alive during prohibition. For you to be like 15 years my senior, the math would suggest you're the product of a line of teen pregnancy... possibly inbreeding. 

Please, do go on.

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  On 12/9/2024 at 2:01 AM, André Toulon said:

My grandmother was born in 1923, my grandfather even before that, my mother was born in the 50s, me in the 70s. My grandparents were both alive during prohibition. For you to be like 15 years my senior, the math would suggest you're the product of a line of teen pregnancy... possibly inbreeding. 

Please, do go on.

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I'm talking about my my grandmother's parents, who were both over twenty one in 1923.

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  On 12/9/2024 at 2:10 AM, smiradenius said:

I'm talking about my my grandmother's parents, who were both over twenty one in 1923.

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And this improves your arguments how?

Oh, do you just mean the mild racism thing...ok, maybe what you said wasn't rooted in racism.

See how easy that is. See how it didn't hurt me at all to walk back my racism claim.

See how it does nothing to make you any less culpable in the commerce of illegal goods,

see how this goalpost shift about prohibition still has nothing to do with you and your actions.

See how you gave me more ammo to make fun of you by trying to prove a useless point that still did nothing to absolve your crimes.

 

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smiradenius Elder

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  On 12/9/2024 at 2:21 AM, André Toulon said:

And this improves your arguments how?

Oh, do you just mean the mild racism thing...ok, maybe what you said wasn't rooted in racism.

See how easy that is. See how it didn't hurt me at all to walk back my racism claim.

See how it does nothing to make you any less culpable in the commerce of illegal goods,

see how this goalpost shift about prohibition still has nothing to do with you and your actions.

See how you gave me more ammo to make fun of you by trying to prove a useless point that still did nothing to absolve your crimes.

 

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I'm not doing anything different from what they did under similar circumstances.

They did also live to see that superfluous and unfair law abolished, just as I may live to see the tobacco tax abolished after the civil disobedience becomes totally unbearable to way too expensive to enforce.

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  On 12/9/2024 at 2:25 AM, smiradenius said:

I'm not doing anything different from what they did under similar circumstances.

They did also live to see that superfluous and unfair law abolished, just as I may live to see the tobacco tax abolished after the civil disobedience becomes totally unbearable to way too expensive to enforce.

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Dude, no one is going to see a bunch of people with oxygen tanks & chronic smokers cough and think "omg, the civil disobedience is going to be epic" most of your larynxes won't even allow you to shout. Heavens forbid if you guys have a march 😂

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  On 12/9/2024 at 2:38 AM, André Toulon said:

Dude, no one is going to see a bunch of people with oxygen tanks & chronic smokers cough and think "omg, the civil disobedience is going to be epic" most of your larynxes won't even allow you to shout. Heavens forbid if you guys have a march 😂

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Was it the drinkers that mattered in prohibition or did the police have more serious people to look at?

 

Is it the druggies who matter in today's crocodile culture or do the police have more serious people to look at or even fear?

André Toulon Monster Mutant

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Was it the drinkers that mattered in prohibition or did the police have more serious people to look at?

 

Is it the druggies who matter in today's crocodile culture or do the police have more serious people to look at or even fear?

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Wow, actual gibberish. Ok, I think I'm full now. Pick on you later.😉

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  On 12/9/2024 at 1:59 AM, smiradenius said:

None of what you say is true at this time.

And no, solar panels and windmills are never going to have any meaningful impact in terms of meeting our energy needs.  It just simply isn't feasible.  Try powering only the city of Fresno with nothing but solar or wind alone, and just like every place else it has been tried, and you're going to get nothing but chronic blackouts, brownouts and kwh rationing.

 

On a related note, here's your solar sun god.

 

 

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Do you get the point yet?

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Fact:  Biden killed the pipelines.

Fact:  Oil is now largely transported by truck or train, which costs considerably more.

Fact:  Biden has been deliberately withholding permits and/or leases for more drilling, which causes lost productivity and adds the new experiences of paying rent for lands that the oil companies are not allowed to drill on.

Fact:  The three above mentioned factors are issues that can only be addressed with substantial price hikes.

Fact:  Trump plans to end the Biden policies.

 

Fact:  If Trump is successful in his bid, the price of gas and oil will drop and the electric companies and other businesses that depend on oil will again be able to cut their prices.

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Fact: None of the above are true. 

Fact: Someone's time would be better served by taking an adult learning course in reading comprehension. You're retired now, go forth and wow some community ed teacher with your knowledge. 

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  On 12/10/2024 at 1:01 AM, katt_goddess said:

Fact: None of the above are true. 

Fact: Someone's time would be better served by taking an adult learning course in reading comprehension. You're retired now, go forth and wow some community ed teacher with your knowledge. 

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He could go to the Atlantic county community college. It's right in AC at the corner of Baltic Ave and New York Ave. It would just be a short bus ride to get there for him.

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  On 12/9/2024 at 3:51 PM, André Toulon said:

Lack of self control on all parties. But trust me, historically it doesn't last forever.  The boards just haven't had a true idiot in a while and I think it's good to get it out of the system.

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Like eating a whole thing of Pringles in one sitting.

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