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On topic, the US and other countries are helping the Ukraine because everyone understands the concept of "A stronger Russia would be difficult to stop if they wanted...literally any of the other count

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Just a couple of small things I read. 

There have been 15 reported instances or Russian soldiers dressing as civilians and deserting the military.
Russian propagandist are having a hard time burying news of Ukraine's latest strides.
The main propagandist appeared on TV with bruises on his face.  Wonder what happened there.

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There has been a major breakout by Ukraine today. 

https://www.cnn.com/2022/09/10/europe/ukraine-kharkiv-advances-intl-hnk/index.html

Russian forces are retreating en-masse and Ukraine has retaken the key city of Izyum,

 

It sure looks like Ukraine is about to turn a major flank on the Russians and potentially overrun them everywhere in the East.

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10 minutes ago, Master-Debater131 said:

There has been a major breakout by Ukraine today. 

https://www.cnn.com/2022/09/10/europe/ukraine-kharkiv-advances-intl-hnk/index.html

Russian forces are retreating en-masse and Ukraine has retaken the key city of Izyum,

 

It sure looks like Ukraine is about to turn a major flank on the Russians and potentially overrun them everywhere in the East.

Stories I've been seeing indicate that the Ukrainian version of the DoD knew they had leaks in the East, so they told everyone that they'd be starting an offensive in the South.  Interestingly, shortly after that was released, some Russian forces started moving south prior to the Eastern Offensive.  

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16 minutes ago, tsar4 said:

Stories I've been seeing indicate that the Ukrainian version of the DoD knew they had leaks in the East, so they told everyone that they'd be starting an offensive in the South.  Interestingly, shortly after that was released, some Russian forces started moving south prior to the Eastern Offensive.  

Ive read the same thing.  Ukraine put out a ton of propaganda and disinfo making it seem like they were going South when the plan from the start was to go East.

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20 hours ago, tsar4 said:

Stories I've been seeing indicate that the Ukrainian version of the DoD knew they had leaks in the East, so they told everyone that they'd be starting an offensive in the South.  Interestingly, shortly after that was released, some Russian forces started moving south prior to the Eastern Offensive.  

This is an old tactic. 
There's even an  instance of using the dead body of a homeless man to trick the enemy with false information.
They put some fake documents on him, some fake personal items and dumped him in a river for the enemy to find.

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4 hours ago, Sieg67 said:

This is an old tactic. 
There's even an  instance of using the dead body of a homeless man to trick the enemy with false information.
They put some fake documents on him, some fake personal items and dumped him in a river for the enemy to find.

And that 'instance" was turned into a book "The Man Who Never Was", that I did a book report on back in 5th grade, later turned into a movie.

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and keep in mind there's a delay in revealing how far they've actually pushed

 

It sure looks like there has been a complete route of the Russians in the East. They left all sorts of equipment behind that is further evidence of a complete route.  This wasnt an organized retreat to regroup and counterattack. This was "run like hell or we will die".

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https://www.reuters.com/article/ukraine-crisis-russia-offensive-idAFKBN2QC09Y

Russian nationalists rage after stunning setback in Ukraine

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The swift fall of Izium in Kharkiv province was Russia’s worst military defeat since its troops were forced back from the Ukrainian capital Kyiv in March.

As Russian forces abandoned town after town on Saturday, Putin was opening Europe’s largest ferris wheel in a Moscow park, while fireworks lit up the sky over Red Square to celebrate the city’s founding in 1147.

In an 11-minute-long voice message posted to the Telegram messaging app, Chechen leader Ramzan Kadyrov, a Putin ally whose troops have been at the forefront of the campaign in Ukraine, dismissed the loss of Izium, a critical supply hub.

But he conceded the campaign was not going to plan.

“If today or tomorrow changes are not made in the conduct of the special military operation, I will be forced to go to the country’s leadership to explain to them the situation on the ground,” said Kadyrov."

 

 

Ahhh, now theres a feel good story to start the week if I have ever read one.  Russian apologists are running out of excuses for just how poorly they are performing.

 

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https://news.yahoo.com/ukraine-reclaims-swathes-east-shock-105500641.html

Ukraine recaptures more ground as Russia strikes back

Ukraine forces said Monday their lightning counter-offensive took back more ground in the past 24 hours, as Russia replied with strikes on some of the recaptured ground.

The territorial shifts were one of Russia's biggest reversals since its forces were turned back from Kyiv in the earliest days of the nearly seven months of fighting, yet Moscow signalled it was no closer to agreeing a negotiated peace.

"Ukraine has turned the tide in its favour, but the current counter-offensive will not end the war," US think tank Institute for the Study of War tweeted.

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It really does look like we may be in the early stages of a complete and total collapse of the Russian army in Ukraine. The speed at which Ukraine is advancing is remarkable. And the Russians are simply abandoning anything and everything in their attempts to flee.

You can also tell just how bad things are going for the Russians by the increasing silence from their apologists around the world. Even the most hardcore propagandists within Russia are having a hard time spinning this.

There is a long way to go, and who knows what sort of depravity Putin might unleash as he gets further backed into a corner, but it sure looks good for Ukraine right now.

We just have to keep up our support and funding of the UA so they can route the Russians.

 

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6 hours ago, Sawdy said:

https://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/vladimir-putin-s-car-attacked-in-assassination-attempt-report-101663226652610.html?utm_campaign=fullarticle&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=inshorts

cant seem to find any other sources for this tho yet….

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I feel like there would be more buzz about this if it were true.
I checked into that source and their reporting is factually mixed.

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I feel like there would be more buzz about this if it were true.
I checked into that source and their reporting is factually mixed.

Yeah same… I know it’s a big publication in India but definitely seems like it would have grown legs.

I wanted to be honest about the source too.

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It looks like Ukraine is looking to push their advantage.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/huge-explosion-as-pro-russian-officials-hit-by-ukraine-himars-video-shows/ar-AA11UjVI

 

They struck a key government office this morning with HIMARs. Not only is it big that they hit the building, but its also big in that it shows that the UA is advancing much closer to Kherson.
 

Russia is being pushed back on all fronts.

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Russia is increasingly resorting to terrorism as they lose the war. The attacks on and near the nuclear plant are just an escalation in their terrorism. At this point I think Russia would love for another Chernobyl event to happen in Ukraine. if they cant have the land, no one can.


Russian propagandists are also increasing their nuclear rhetoric. Lots of talk about deploying tactical nuclear weapons to turn the war. Theres even some talk of using nukes against the UK and other NATO nations as a way to stop their support of Ukraine.  These people are totally deranged.

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51 minutes ago, Master-Debater131 said:

Russia is increasingly resorting to terrorism as they lose the war. The attacks on and near the nuclear plant are just an escalation in their terrorism. At this point I think Russia would love for another Chernobyl event to happen in Ukraine. if they cant have the land, no one can.


Russian propagandists are also increasing their nuclear rhetoric. Lots of talk about deploying tactical nuclear weapons to turn the war. Theres even some talk of using nukes against the UK and other NATO nations as a way to stop their support of Ukraine.  These people are totally deranged.

Even Putin knows that the fallout would hit Russia too

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