The1gairon Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 Just now, mochi said: .....I mean I wasn't gonna say it but Naruto and MHA are the only toonami shows that have black characters XD I know anime is usually shown on Toonami, but the fact that anime comes from a severely non-diverse country doesn't help at all. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The1gairon Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 Just now, AnimationFan14 said: The classmates are kinda cheeky Hi. :3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mochi Posted August 30, 2020 Author Share Posted August 30, 2020 2 minutes ago, elfie said: WOw. We had a speech about this before, but this time TOM STATES THEM OUTRIGHT, OUT LOUD. somewhere in the distance if you listen closely you can hear Ginguy Screaming 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorbeauKarasu Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 oh shit, Goku....you all right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The1gairon Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 1 minute ago, OwlChemist81 said: I'll bet Tom will mention crazy conspiracy theories at some point in the future. I applaud the staff for being social justice warriors, but what I am is "concerned". I would love to hear T.O.M. call out QAnon! That would be next-level insane! They're treading a delicate rope. I do not look forward to Twitter going apeshit over this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorbeauKarasu Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 losing consciousness here.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OwlChemist81 Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 It's actually kind of an interesting juxtaposition with Top's hardline stance on Justice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorbeauKarasu Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 GODPOWER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The1gairon Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 5 minutes ago, CorbeauKarasu said: well. damn. WOW TOM, baby hard core. like. holy shit. ❤️ TOM, ma baby boy. That's ma boy. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorbeauKarasu Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 beerus was worried even though he knew goku had this power? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mochi Posted August 30, 2020 Author Share Posted August 30, 2020 11 hours ago, elfie said: I know anime is usually shown on Toonami, but the fact that anime comes from a severely non-diverse country doesn't help at all. the one thing I've always found funny is that Toonami's rather progressive soapboxing is contradicted by the content of the animes they air Spoiler 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorbeauKarasu Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 instant transmission kamehameha a classic goku signature move 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The1gairon Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 10 hours ago, mochi said: the one thing I've always found funny is that Toonami's rather progressive soapboxing is contradicted by the content of the animes they air Spoiler Oh god I been keeping tabs on the content of SAO and I DO NOT look forward to those episodes when they arrive here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mochi Posted August 30, 2020 Author Share Posted August 30, 2020 I just noticed there was a random cicada noise before Goku powered up there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The1gairon Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 If you think about it, anime is NOT progressive at all. Fanservice, male power fantasies, lack of diversity, bombastic set pieces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorbeauKarasu Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 so is the priest the one truly in control? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnimationFan14 Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 7 minutes ago, elfie said: Hi. :3 Hello ;3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorbeauKarasu Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 1 minute ago, elfie said: If you think about it, anime is NOT progressive at all. Fanservice, male power fantasies, lack of diversity, bombastic set pieces. eh. i can't say i agree there. we've all seen numerous examples to the contrary. not enough of them, certainly, but more than a handful of each what's wrong with bombastic set pieces? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OwlChemist81 Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 6 minutes ago, elfie said: They're treading a delicate rope. I do not look forward to Twitter going apeshit over this. It seems to be fairly decent so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The1gairon Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 Just now, AnimationFan14 said: Hello ;3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorbeauKarasu Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 OOKU just did simple arithmetic in his head... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mochi Posted August 30, 2020 Author Share Posted August 30, 2020 Just now, elfie said: If you think about it, anime is NOT progressive at all. Fanservice, male power fantasies, lack of diversity, bombastic set pieces. I'd argue anime is actually an inherently regressive art form, women are just sex objects, black characters are clowns, and LGBT characters are variably either sex objects, or hateful stereotypes depending on what the target audience of the work is 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The1gairon Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 Just now, CorbeauKarasu said: eh. i can't say i agree there. we've all seen numerous examples to the contrary. not enough of them, certainly, but more than a handful of each what's wrong with bombastic set pieces? True, anime is extremely varied in its content. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The1gairon Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 Just now, OwlChemist81 said: It seems to be fairly decent so far. Give it time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorbeauKarasu Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 so, a tick is just under six hours? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DangerMouse Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, elfie said: Oh god I been keeping tabs on the content of SAO and I DO NOT look forward to those episodes when they arrive here. To be expected at this point. I'm mostly just watching for the fanservice and top notch action animation. Edited August 30, 2020 by DangerMouse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OwlChemist81 Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 Just now, mochi said: I'd argue anime is actually an inherently regressive art form, women are just sex objects, black characters are clowns, and LGBT characters are variably either sex objects, or hateful stereotypes depending on what the target audience of the work is Maybe, but often times the message can be quite progressive indeed, despite these story elements. Like for example the message of Fullmetal Alchemist? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The1gairon Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 Just now, OwlChemist81 said: Maybe, but often times the message can be quite progressive indeed, despite these story elements. Like for example the message of Fullmetal Alchemist? You see that a lot in anime because it's NOT the norm there. The stories are supposed to tell people in society how they SHOULD be acting or what the world SHOULD be like. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DangerMouse Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 LOL Goku Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OwlChemist81 Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 I'm mostly watching the college football game tonight because my team plays one of the teams Thursday night, but I am streaming this episode. Beerus really was quite a hoot this episode! Great job, Mr. Jason Douglas! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The1gairon Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 ED! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OwlChemist81 Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 Oh hell yeah, almost time for JoJo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorbeauKarasu Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 demons in an angel mask hoping that i'll do just what they ask telling me they know what's right lead me to the light "for the sake of everyone you have to destroy the evil ones that's the only path you see," so they said to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The1gairon Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 Aw yeah time for the show that SHOULD NOT air at 12:30! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorbeauKarasu Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 I WANT TO SEE NEW MUTANTS IN THEATRES. I DON'T CARE WHAT THE REVIEWS SAY. I HAVEN'T AGREED WITH A SINGLE ONE IN YEARS. I'll go when the theatres are empty and i bet it'll be just as amazing as i expect to be. maybe i'll have to eat those words, but i doubt it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The1gairon Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 Right now I'll only go to a theater if I know I'll be the only guy in the auditorium. Having a private screening all for me feels coool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben0119 Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 4 hours ago, mochi said: nobody wanted DBS to rerun and it shows XD Of course. Not sure what elfie didn't get about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben0119 Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, mochi said: the one thing I've always found funny is that Toonami's rather progressive soapboxing is contradicted by the content of the animes they air Spoiler Hey, mark that! Oh yeah I forgot to mention that. The new SAO episodes have been mostly good to me, but there was one scene that was NOT needed. I didn't look to see if there was a big stir over it. Eh Officer Black is fine. Remember he was actually competent whereas Commander Red was an idiot. Edited August 30, 2020 by ben0119 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OwlChemist81 Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 10 minutes ago, ben0119 said: Of course. Not sure what elfie didn't get about that. Yeah, especially not THIS part. Now if they had started it at the REAL Tournament of Power, that might be a different story! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben0119 Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 4 hours ago, elfie said: If you think about it, anime is NOT progressive at all. Fanservice, male power fantasies, lack of diversity, bombastic set pieces. Eeeehh it depends on the anime dude. Many not only do far better for women, LGBT, minorities etc than other anime, but also Western entertainment and entertainment in general. I love how the women are in Black Clover. Noelle's growth and progression has been done especially well, and some very satisfying moments and fights for her. The show has a very clear anti-classist, anti-racism, anti-discrimination, general don't be an asshole message. It drills the point home by reversing positions and making Yami a rare foreigner and only Japanese guy in the kingdom who is treated with disdain. The Wizard King wants everyone to be treated equally. Say what you will about Kubo, but he does better for women, and representation in general, than many mangakas. Chad, Tosen, Yoruichi and others were drawn well and were cool characters with good stories. Chad's Fullbring item that was precious to him was his Mexican heritage. I like how the women in general are used. And people will see more in the new anime. Spoiler Gigi the trans character. Sailor Moon and Ranma 1/2 are heralded as examples of how progressive anime can be. Inuyasha himself is half demon, half-human, and is treated like shit by demons and humans alike, and we know how mixed race people are treated in Japan. There are many other examples. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben0119 Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 (edited) 17 minutes ago, OwlChemist81 said: Yeah, especially not THIS part. Now if they had started it at the REAL Tournament of Power, that might be a different story! Yeah. But either way I will take the extra time to nap, get home, get ready, get food etc if needed due to first show being a rerun. Which is why I actually don't mind Toonami starting later. Edited August 30, 2020 by ben0119 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben0119 Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 (edited) Since it seems it was mostly discussed here, may as well throw my post on the PSA here as well - Balls by Toonami to air this, but a bit late. Should have aired months ago. Also "People of Color" is a fucking idiotic term. People got so PC they looped back ground to being racist again. It's basically a modern version of saying "Colored People," which oof. And last I checked I never met any transparent people. But I like the spirit of the message and how they had the rebuttles ready for the usual BS from idiots who don't want politics or any kind of messages in their entertainment. Well as long as they agree with it or are too oblivious to see it lol. Edited August 30, 2020 by ben0119 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mochi Posted August 30, 2020 Author Share Posted August 30, 2020 1 hour ago, ben0119 said: Eeeehh it depends on the anime dude. Many not only do far better for women, LGBT, minorities etc than other anime, but also Western entertainment and entertainment in general. I love how the women are in Black Clover. Noelle's growth and progression has been done especially well, and some very satisfying moments and fights for her. The show has a very clear anti-classist, anti-racism, anti-discrimination, general don't be an asshole message. It drills the point home by reversing positions and making Yami a rare foreigner and only Japanese guy in the kingdom who is treated with disdain. The Wizard King wants everyone to be treated equally. Say what you will about Kubo, but he does better for women, and representation in general, than many mangakas. Chad, Tosen, Yoruichi and others were drawn well and were cool characters with good stories. Chad's Fullbring item that was precious to him was his Mexican heritage. I like how the women in general are used. And people will see more in the new anime. Hide contents Gigi the trans character. Sailor Moon and Ranma 1/2 are heralded as examples of how progressive anime can be. Inuyasha himself is half demon, half-human, and is treated like shit by demons and humans alike, and we know how mixed race people are treated in Japan. There are many other examples. there's a handful of outliers who are exceptionally progressive, Naoko Takeuchi (Sailor moon) Yoshihiro Togashi (Hunter X Hunter) and Rumiko Takahashi all being examples Black Clover gives very mixed signals...on one hand it portrays women better than ANY shonen manga I've ever seen and as you said has a very on the nose moral surrounding Yami's backstory but it also is sorta hinting at Sol "getting over being a Lesbian" for Magna 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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OwlChemist81 Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 Tonight (9/5/20) at Midnight, it's... Episode 83: Field the All-7th Universe Team! Who are the Mighty Ten? The Zeno Expo is over! Let the "7th Universe Recruitment arc" begin and pretty much last for most of Football Season! ONLY TOONAMI!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mochi Posted September 6, 2020 Author Share Posted September 6, 2020 I hate to waste my talent on Super but I made new DBZ art too Spoiler 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The1gairon Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 Attended the Crunchyroll Expo. They have 4 "stages" (livestream videos playing all day long with chat boxes). Two of them got taken down because of spam bots. They came back up roughly a half hour later, but in the process i missed the end of the one event I wanted to watch. Kinda frustrated, but it is free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The1gairon Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 HERE WE GO!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The1gairon Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 .... "so this episode opens with ChiChi singing this. And no, we're not paying you extra. AND GO!" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mochi Posted September 6, 2020 Author Share Posted September 6, 2020 as an aside I'm sick now hoping/assuming it's not covid but I have a sore ear and throat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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