Toonami Ratings Thread 2.0

[The1gairon]

21 minutes ago, OwlChemist81 said:

Parts 1 & 2 also did better on Toonami than Parts 3 or 4, so that might be a factor.

I think Stardust Crusaders will hit the 'flix this summer.

Also, do they distinguish between subs and dubs in those "Top Viewed" sections?

Parts 1 and 2 aired when Toonami's ratings were actually high.  So it can apply to ANY show they aired during that time really.

[Daos]

7 hours ago, PokeNirvash said:

I've only seen one episode of Shuffle!, and let me tell you, Lisianthus is best girl.

You should watch shuffle. How often do you get to see a harem anime where the guy actually picks a girl?

[Daos]

Double posted

Edited May 3, 2019 by Daos

[OwlChemist81]

Interesting report this morning:

http://www.showbuzzdaily.com/articles/showbuzzdailys-top-150-saturday-cable-originals-network-finals-5-4-2019.html

Despite the Star Wars-themed lead-in to Toonami, real Star Wars: Rogue One overlapped Toonami's 11 PM hour and it shows. The 12 AM hour didn't do all that great in total viewers. Would it have really killed TBS to have started the Star Wars Marathon an hour earlier for SOME semblance of synergy!? You would think Super might beat the earliest episode of the marathon in 18-49, but no dice. Also, these episodes of Dragon Ball Super getting a normal, bland promo kinda hurt too. Hopefully they don't make that mistake with the (current) series finale in October or November.

However, DAMN! For all the issues with total viewers and 18-49, that episode of Dragon Ball Super placed 2nd in Adults 18-34 and WON THE NIGHT BY A WIDE 0.14 MARGIN in Men 12-34!! And a sustained 0.25 throughout the night at least until 2:30 AM in 18-34 is a beautiful thing to see these days. Finally, note the balance in Females 12-34 and Males 12-34 for The Promised Neverland and Sword Art Online: Alicization--the latter led by a mere 0.01! That's the noitaminA effect for you, and it indubitably caused the 18-34 numbers to be quite a bit higher!

While it is overwhelmingly clear by these numbers that this time the older adult crowd, perhaps even beginning at age 25, overwhelmingly preferred Toonami's competitors Live PD and Rogue One, it should also be noted that the 12 AM-1:30 AM total viewer numbers and Adults 18-49 numbers WERE markedly higher than their counterparts last week. We'll just have to wait to see if that was true for the rest of the block when full numbers come in!

 

Edited May 7, 2019 by OwlChemist81

[OwlChemist81]

Well, what do you know??

https://programminginsider.com/saturday-final-ratings-kentucky-derby-matches-30-year-high-in-total-viewers-due-to-its-historic-controversial-finish/

5/4/19 - Total Viewers
Show	Viewers	Retention
DBZ Kai	294,000
DBS (R)	325,000	110.54%
DBS (P)	756,000	123.13%
MHA	586,000	77.51%
TPN	397,000	67.75%
SAO3	367,000	92.44%
JoJo4	327,000	89.10%
B. Clover	340,000	103.98%
Boruto	314,000	92.35%
Shippuden	315,000	100.32%
H×H	322,000	102.22%
AOT	253,000	78.57%
AVERAGE	397,700	11th of 18
5/4/19 - Adults 18-49
Show	Viewers	Retention
DBZ Kai	103,000
DBS (R)	141,000	136.89%
DBS (P)	455,000	141.74%
MHA	347,000	76.26%
TPN	252,000	72.62%
SAO3	235,000	93.25%
JoJo4	224,000	95.32%
B. Clover	242,000	108.04%
Boruto	227,000	93.80%
Shippuden	232,000	102.20%
H×H	241,000	103.88%
AOT	185,000	76.76%
AVERAGE	264,000	7th of 18

And if you want to see the rest of the night's numbers, click the spoiler tag below:

Spoiler

Dragon Ball Z Kai (R) (Adult Swim, 8:00 PM, 30 min.) • 0.294 million viewers [#608] • 0.08 A18-49 [#584] • 0.07 A25-54 [#781]
Dragon Ball Super (R) (Adult Swim, 8:30 PM, 30 min.) • 0.325 million viewers [#544] • 0.11 A18-49 [#320] • 0.10 A25-54 [#538]
Robot Chicken (R) (Adult Swim, 9:00 PM, 30 min.) • 0.331 million viewers [#526] • 0.12 A18-49 [#310] • 0.12 A25-54 [#398]
Robot Chicken (R) (Adult Swim, 9:30 PM, 30 min.) • 0.318 million viewers [#557] • 0.12 A18-49 [#273] • 0.13 A25-54 [#345]
Family Guy (R) (Adult Swim, 10:00 PM, 60 min.) • 0.614 million viewers [#170] • 0.25 A18-49 [#24] • 0.24 A25-54 [#91]
Dragon Ball Super (Adult Swim, 11:00 PM, 30 min.) • 0.756 million viewers [#107] • 0.35 A18-49 [#9] • 0.30 A25-54 [#24]
My Hero Academia (R) (Adult Swim, 11:30 PM, 30 min.) • 0.586 million viewers [#188] • 0.27 A18-49 [#15] • 0.25 A25-54 [#72]
The Promised Neverland (Adult Swim, 12:00 AM, 30 min.) • 0.397 million viewers [#405] • 0.20 A18-49 [#75] • 0.18 A25-54 [#191]
Sword Art Online: Alicization (Adult Swim, 12:30 AM, 30 min.) • 0.367 million viewers [#461] • 0.18 A18-49 [#101] • 0.16 A25-54 [#225]
Jojo’s Bizarre Adventure: Diamond is Unbreakable (Adult Swim, 1:00 AM, 30 min.) • 0.327 million viewers [#538] • 0.17 A18-49 [#121] • 0.15 A25-54 [#265]
Black Clover (R) (Adult Swim, 1:30 AM, 30 min.) • 0.340 million viewers [#508] • 0.19 A18-49 [#90] • 0.17 A25-54 [#213]
Boruto: Naruto Next Generations (Adult Swim, 2:00 AM, 30 min.) • 0.314 million viewers [#564] • 0.18 A18-49 [#118] • 0.16 A25-54 [#236]
Naruto: Shippuden (R) (Adult Swim, 2:30 AM, 30 min.) • 0.315 million viewers [#559] • 0.18 A18-49 [#110] • 0.16 A25-54 [#250]
Hunter X Hunter (R) (Adult Swim, 3:00 AM, 30 min.) • 0.322 million viewers [#552] • 0.19 A18-49 [#91] • 0.16 A25-54 [#220]
Attack on Titan (R) (Adult Swim, 3:30 AM, 30 min.) • 0.253 million viewers [#700] • 0.14 A18-49 [#191] • 0.13 A25-54 [#379]
The Boondocks (R) (Adult Swim, 4:00 AM, 30 min.) • 0.267 million viewers [#672] • 0.14 A18-49 [#195] • 0.14 A25-54 [#332]
Black Dynamite (R) (Adult Swim, 4:30 AM, 30 min.) • 0.247 million viewers [#718] • 0.13 A18-49 [#232] • 0.13 A25-54 [#361]
Venture Brothers (R) (Adult Swim, 5:00 AM, 30 min.) • 0.278 million viewers [#644] • 0.15 A18-49 [#167] • 0.14 A25-54 [#306]
Home Movies (R) (Adult Swim, 5:30 AM, 30 min.) • 0.214 million viewers [#794] • 0.12 A18-49 [#276] • 0.11 A25-54 [#451]

Across all cable (not just "originals"), DBS was #9 and MHA was #15, while TPN, Black Clover, and HxH also made the Top 100!!

Read more: https://programminginsider.com/saturday-final-ratings-kentucky-derby-matches-30-year-high-in-total-viewers-due-to-its-historic-controversial-finish/

Edited May 7, 2019 by OwlChemist81

[PokeNirvash]

CHAD CLOVER DOES IT AGAIN, EVERYBODY.

[helpme]

What the?

That drop at The a Promise Neverland  what the hell? 💢

[OwlChemist81]

If you expected huge numbers for last week's episode of Dragon Ball Super, pat yourself on the back. But the 2nd-highest [as] show is surprising, and probably due in part to an accidental omission:

Just barely edged out by Live PD in 18-34 and EASILY winning the night in Male 12-34, rising 0.05, was Dragon Ball Super, but JoJo not only captured 2nd best of the night, it also TIED in Male 12-34 with Live PD! However, of course it was edged out by Promised Neverland in 18-34!!

Speaking of 18-34, Dragon Ball Super actually pulled off back-to-back weeks of over 0.45, which translates to an estimate of over 300K!! That would not have been possible if DBS had been aired on Toonami as a 1-hour special like it was in Japan.

Of course, the error is the fact that SAO was not included in this chart. This also happened with the final episode of KILL la KILL back in 2015 and has also befallen Black Clover since it fell from the 11:30 slot. Whether this was just an error or will be the case going forward is unknown.

http://www.showbuzzdaily.com/articles/showbuzzdailys-top-150-saturday-cable-originals-network-finals-5-11-2019.html

Here's what we know so far. MHA kinda blew it:

5/11/19 - Total Viewers
Show	Viewers	Retention
DBZ Kai	408,000
DBS (R)	399,000	97.79%
DBS (P)	875,000
MHA	556,000	63.54%
TPN	468,000	84.17%
SAO3
JoJo4	414,000
B. Clover	399,000	96.38%
Boruto	321,000	80.45%
Shippuden	301,000	93.77%
H×H	330,000	109.63%
AOT	262,000	79.39%
AVERAGE	436,222 (so far)	??? of 19

Edited May 15, 2019 by OwlChemist81

[OwlChemist81]

OK, here we go...

https://programminginsider.com/saturday-final-ratings-nhl-western-conference-finals-helps-nbc-eke-past-ae-to-lead-prime-time-demos/

5/11/19 - Total Viewers
Show	Viewers	Retention
DBZ Kai	408,000
DBS (R)	399,000	97.79%
DBS (P)	875,000
MHA	556,000	63.54%
TPN	468,000	84.17%
SAO3	456,000	97.44%
JoJo4	414,000	90.79%
B. Clover	399,000	96.38%
Boruto	321,000	80.45%
Shippuden	301,000	93.77%
H×H	330,000	109.63%
AOT	262,000	79.39%
AVERAGE	438,200	7th of 19
5/11/19 - Adults 18-49
Show	Viewers	Retention
DBS (P)	522,000
MHA	320,000	61.30%
TPN	268,000	83.75%
SAO3	276,000	102.99%
JoJo4	271,000	98.19%
B. Clover	250,000	92.25%
Boruto	198,000	79.20%
Shippuden	181,000	91.41%
H×H	204,000	112.71%
AOT	159,000	77.94%
AVERAGE	264,900	7th of 19

I guess that's "Lucky #7???"

[OwlChemist81]

Just noticed: we actually got 18-34 numbers for pre-Toonami this time!

Dragon Ball Z Kai (repeat) (ADSM, 8:00 PM, 30 min.) • 0.408 million viewers (#77) • 0.23 HH (#84) • 0.14 A18-49 (#48) • 0.13 A18-34 (#33) • 0.14 A25-54 (#76)
Dragon Ball Super (repeat) (ADSM, 8:30 PM, 30 min.) • 0.399 million viewers (#78) • 0.23 HH (#84) • 0.15 A18-49 (#42) • 0.17 A18-34 (#16) • 0.15 A25-54 (#69)
Rick & Morty (repeat) (ADSM, 9:00 PM, 30 min.) • 0.543 million viewers (#54) • 0.32 HH (#54) • 0.24 A18-49 (#16) • 0.25 A18-34 (#6) • 0.24 A25-54 (#27)
Rick & Morty (repeat) (ADSM, 9:30 PM, 30 min.) • 0.658 million viewers (#36) • 0.41 HH (#43) • 0.30 A18-49 (#9) • 0.31 A18-34 (#4) • 0.29 A25-54 (#17)
Family Guy (repeat) (ADSM, 10:00 PM, 30 min.) • 0.767 million viewers (#26) • 0.51 HH (#26) • 0.36 A18-49 (#4) • 0.35 A18-34 (#3) • 0.34 A25-54 (#13)
Family Guy (repeat) (ADSM, 10:30 PM, 30 min.) • 0.830 million viewers (#20) • 0.59 HH (#17) • 0.39 A18-49 (#3) • 0.43 A18-34 (#2) • 0.36 A25-54 (#10)

Read more: https://programminginsider.com/saturday-final-ratings-nhl-western-conference-finals-helps-nbc-eke-past-ae-to-lead-prime-time-demos/

So Dragon Ball Super beat its lead-in in all key demos! Watch this space, because soon we'll get to know 18-34s for My Hero Academia's final arc (so far)!

[OwlChemist81]

Brace yourselves, folks. This ain't gonna be pretty:

http://www.showbuzzdaily.com/articles/showbuzzdailys-top-150-saturday-cable-originals-network-finals-5-18-2019.html

 

Even though Dragon Ball Super went up against the 1st-round knockout punch to the jaw that was the Wilder-Brazeale (sic?) fight, it still somehow managed to best it in adults 18-49. And to be fair, the 18-49's weren't THAT bad, but the total viewers and 18-34s were scary low. We're talking <100K for SAO-A and JoJo. It's a shame that it takes an event like Goku vs. Jiren to carry the block these days; let's hope the premiere of new AOT will do the trick next week, and MHA won't enfeeble the block as a lead-in. But it can only go up from here, right?? Toonami doesn't have any strong competition against pro sports anytime in the near future. I don't think baseball games can hurt the block this bad, and yes, the NBA Finals are coming up, but none of the games are on Saturdays:

Spoiler

Game	Date	Home Team	Result	Road Team
Game 1	Thursday, May 30	Winner of Eastern Conference Finals		Golden State Warriors
Game 2	Sunday, June 2	Winner of Eastern Conference Finals		Golden State Warriors
Game 3	Wednesday, June 5	Golden State Warriors		Winner of Eastern Conference Finals
Game 4	Friday, June 7	Golden State Warriors		Winner of Eastern Conference Finals
Game 5	Monday, June 10	Winner of Eastern Conference Finals		Golden State Warriors
Game 6	Thursday, June 13	Golden State Warriors		Winner of Eastern Conference Finals
Game 7	Sunday, June 16	Winner of Eastern Conference Finals		Golden State Warriors

So, looks like if Toonami can manage its previous level of success with only one Family Guy as a lead-in, it should do fine. And of course, the hype of new dubbed AOT should do the trick. We just had to have THIS bump-in-the-road first.

Edit: Actually, that's NOT true. You better hope the Bucks sweep the Raptors from here on out or else, THIS will happen on the same night AOTS3 Part 2 premieres:

https://www.google.com/search?q=nba+playoffs+schedule&ie=&oe=#sie=m;/g/11h79jsb7j;3;/m/05jvx;dt;fp;1;;

At least this time it's on TNT, which never seems to do as much damage as ESPN. People leave it on that channel all night and watch SportsCenter ad nauseum, but TNT eventually turns over to reruns.

Edited May 21, 2019 by OwlChemist81

[OwlChemist81]

Full numbers for Toonami are in, and though I have to give some credit to Black Clover, Shippuden, and Hunter x Hunter, they just weren't enough to prevent it from going all to hell!

https://programminginsider.com/saturday-final-ratings-saturday-night-live-44th-season-on-nbc-leads-the-days-broadcast-network-telecasts-in-total-viewers-and-all-key-demos/

5/18/19 - Total Viewers
Show	Viewers	Retention
DBS (P)	661,000
MHA	408,000	61.72%
TPN	363,000	88.97%
SAO3	334,000	92.01%
JoJo4	271,000	81.14%
B. Clover	291,000	107.38%
Boruto	222,000	76.29%
Shippuden	236,000	106.31%
H×H	248,000	105.08%
AOT	218,000	87.90%
AVERAGE	325,200	20th of 20
5/18/19 - Adults 18-49
Show	Viewers	Retention
DBS (P)	398,000
MHA	245,000	61.56%
TPN	214,000	87.35%
SAO3	206,000	96.26%
JoJo4	176,000	85.44%
B. Clover	182,000	103.41%
Boruto	132,000	72.53%
Shippuden	142,000	107.58%
H×H	156,000	109.86%
AOT	134,000	85.90%
AVERAGE	198,500	20th of 20

DEAD LAST! And this marks the first time this year the 18-49 average was under 200K, ending the Spring 2019 11 PM-4 AM era on a SOUR note.

For the time period from 2/16/19-5/18/19 that Toonami ran from 11 PM-4 AM, its average across all timeslots was 419,329 total viewers and 255,414 adults 18-49.

Toonami's average so far across all timeslots for 2019 is 407,684 total viewers and 247,198 adults 18-49. Though the move back to 11 PM was obviously damage control, numbers are still down from this time period last year. Hopefully regaining 10:30 PM will actually help things now!

[The1gairon]

Well it''s a good thing this coming weekend isn't a holiday.

[OwlChemist81]

2 minutes ago, elfie said:

Well it''s a good thing this coming weekend isn't a holiday.

I honestly don't think that matters anymore. The almighty NBA is more of a threat to Toonami's success than a holiday. Perhaps Toonami foresaw they'd just have to take the piss on this one and could claim higher ratings for 5/25 despite it being a "holiday" so they inked the AOT deal?

[The1gairon]

It's getting harder and harder to recognize patterns in the way ratings behave because they are changing faster than we can even make correct theories from them!  We can't catch up.

[OwlChemist81]

THIS JUST IN: Unfortunately, Toonami WILL be going up against NBA Playoffs East Game 6 (MIL vs. TOR). The game starts at 8:30 ET, so barring OT, it should at least be over by the time Dragon Ball Super begins.

I could care less about either team, so I will most likely be watching Toonami.

[Daos]

Regardless of the ratings, we should all write to this guy and thank him for all the boners over the years

https://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2019/05/19-1/sword-art-online-anime-character-designer-to-release-his-artwork-collection-book-in-july

[AnimationFan14]

21 hours ago, Daos said:

Regardless of the ratings, we should all write to this guy and thank him for all the boners over the years

https://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2019/05/19-1/sword-art-online-anime-character-designer-to-release-his-artwork-collection-book-in-july

 

On 5/21/2019 at 1:49 PM, elfie said:

It's getting harder and harder

 

[OwlChemist81]

Well, the good news is it was a "down" night across the board, not just for Toonami.

Dragon Ball Z Kai (R) (Adult Swim, 8:00 PM, 30 min.) • 0.295 million viewers [#654] • 0.09 A18-49 [#539] • 0.08 A25-54 [#744]
Dragon Ball Super (R) (Adult Swim, 8:30 PM, 30 min.) • 0.296 million viewers [#650] • 0.09 A18-49 [#496] • 0.08 A25-54 [#774]
Rick & Morty (R) (Adult Swim, 9:00 PM, 30 min.) • 0.304 million viewers [#635] • 0.11 A18-49 [#308] • 0.10 A25-54 [#581]
Rick & Morty (R) (Adult Swim, 9:30 PM, 30 min.) • 0.399 million viewers [#413] • 0.17 A18-49 [#119] • 0.17 A25-54 [#225]
Family Guy (R) (Adult Swim, 10:00 PM, 30 min.) • 0.525 million viewers [#228] • 0.23 A18-49 [#39] • 0.21 A25-54 [#127]
Family Guy (R) (Adult Swim, 10:30 PM, 30 min.) • 0.663 million viewers [#132] • 0.31 A18-49 [#14] • 0.31 A25-54 [#31]
Dragon Ball Super (Adult Swim, 11:00 PM, 30 min.) • 0.661 million viewers [#136] • 0.31 A18-49 [#13] • 0.29 A25-54 [#35]
My Hero Academia (R) (Adult Swim, 11:30 PM, 30 min.) • 0.408 million viewers [#390] • 0.19 A18-49 [#83] • 0.16 A25-54 [#232]
The Promised Neverland (Adult Swim, 12:00 AM, 30 min.) • 0.363 million viewers [#501] • 0.17 A18-49 [#126] • 0.14 A25-54 [#331]
Sword Art Online: Alicization (Adult Swim, 12:30 AM, 30 min.) • 0.334 million viewers [#571] • 0.16 A18-49 [#139] • 0.14 A25-54 [#313]
Jojos Adv: Diamond Unbrk (Adult Swim, 1:00 AM, 30 min.) • 0.271 million viewers [#696] • 0.14 A18-49 [#205] • 0.13 A25-54 [#365]
Black Clover (R) (Adult Swim, 1:30 AM, 30 min.) • 0.291 million viewers [#662] • 0.14 A18-49 [#191] • 0.14 A25-54 [#331]
Boruto: Naruto Next Generations (Adult Swim, 2:00 AM, 30 min.) • 0.222 million viewers [#813] • 0.10 A18-49 [#394] • 0.10 A25-54 [#581]
Naruto: Shippuden (R) (Adult Swim, 2:30 AM, 30 min.) • 0.236 million viewers [#781] • 0.11 A18-49 [#328] • 0.11 A25-54 [#449]
Hunter X Hunter (R) (Adult Swim, 3:00 AM, 30 min.) • 0.248 million viewers [#753] • 0.12 A18-49 [#268] • 0.11 A25-54 [#512]
Attack on Titan (R) (Adult Swim, 3:30 AM, 30 min.) • 0.218 million viewers [#821] • 0.10 A18-49 [#380] • 0.09 A25-54 [#645]
The Boondocks (R) (Adult Swim, 4:00 AM, 30 min.) • 0.242 million viewers [#768] • 0.12 A18-49 [#293] • 0.11 A25-54 [#475]
Black Dynamite (R) (Adult Swim, 4:30 AM, 30 min.) • 0.250 million viewers [#749] • 0.11 A18-49 [#314] • 0.12 A25-54 [#436]
Venture Brothers (R) (Adult Swim, 5:00 AM, 30 min.) • 0.251 million viewers [#746] • 0.11 A18-49 [#300] • 0.11 A25-54 [#467]
Home Movies (R) (Adult Swim, 5:30 AM, 30 min.) • 0.225 million viewers [#804] • 0.10 A18-49 [#415] • 0.10 A25-54 [#581]

So Dragon Ball Super's premiere just barely edged out the 10:30 Family Guy in 18-49, and just barely lost to it in total viewers and adults 25-54.

Read more: https://programminginsider.com/saturday-final-ratings-saturday-night-live-44th-season-on-nbc-leads-the-days-broadcast-network-telecasts-in-total-viewers-and-all-key-demos/

Edited May 23, 2019 by OwlChemist81

[OwlChemist81]

No one expected a ratings report today, right?

[OwlChemist81]

Well, I guess this isn't TOO bad for a holiday. Dragon Ball Super WAY down, but still beat everything that wasn't NBA-related in Adults 18-49:

http://www.showbuzzdaily.com/articles/showbuzzdailys-top-150-saturday-cable-originals-network-finals-5-25-2019.html

JoJo actually DOUBLED its audience from week-to-week in 18-34, and all other shows following the returning Attack On Titan gained markedly in all metrics, though Dragon Ball Super before it dropped slightly in all except Adults 18-34 and Male 12-34. Boruto down to #55, but let's be honest: that was kind of a weak episode.

What's most striking is on a year-to-year basis, we're STILL down, even up against a mega-rerun FLCL Season 1 marathon. Following the "All-Night Toonami Experiment" which saw Toonami take over prime time with Narutoverse shows which are currently relegated to 2 AM, this SEEMS good, but the FLCL marathon was pulling over one-third greater on average in Adults 18-49.

Still, Attack on Titan clearly showed a "lifting" effect for the shows which followed it, and of course it outdid MHA the week before. This is a positive trend, and it will be interesting to see how the block does in June once it gets out of the "shadow" of the NBA. No Finals games will be occurring on Saturday nights:

Spoiler

Game	Date	Home Team	Result	Road Team
Game 1	Thursday, May 30	Toronto Raptors		Golden State Warriors
Game 2	Sunday, June 2	Toronto Raptors		Golden State Warriors
Game 3	Wednesday, June 5	Golden State Warriors		Toronto Raptors
Game 4	Friday, June 7	Golden State Warriors		Toronto Raptors
Game 5*	Monday, June 10	Toronto Raptors		Golden State Warriors
Game 6*	Thursday, June 13	Golden State Warriors		Toronto Raptors
Game 7*	Sunday, June 16	Toronto Raptors		Golden State Warriors

While they'll be giving hell to the Jellies, they won't affect Toonami!

Edited May 29, 2019 by OwlChemist81

[The1gairon]

Man.  Wouldn't it be great if ratings for a show grew anytime it neared its ENDING as well as its beginning?? You would think that would logically happen but it never does.

[OwlChemist81]

Hey, we got Gemusetto Machu Picchu too!

"Adult Swim’s line-up performed as follows:   DRAGON BALL at 0.29 and at 0.11/355K & 0.12/336K, compared to last week’s 0.31 and 0.09/295K & 0.09 2.6K, MY HERO ACADEMIA up 0.01 to 0.20/414K, ATTACK ON TITAN (in an earlier 11:30PM slot) up 0.12 to 0.22/439K, PROMISED NEVERLAND up 0.0 to 0.20, SWORD ART ONLINE up 0.03 to 0.19, JOJO’S BIZARRE ADVENTURE up 0.05 to 0.19/330K, BLACK CLOVER steady at 0.14/265K, BORUTO up 0.01 to 0.11/210K, NARUTO up 0.01 to 0.12/232K, HUNTER X HUNTER up 0.01 to 0.13/250K, and GEMUSETTO MACHU PICCHU at 0.11/213K."

5/25/19 - Total Viewers
Show	Viewers	Retention
DBZ Kai	355,000
DBS (R)	336,000	94.65%
MHA	414,000
DBS (P)	610,000	147.34%
AOTS3P2	439,000	71.97%
TPN	398,000	90.66%
SAO3	379,000	95.23%
JoJo4	330,000	87.07%
B. Clover	265,000	80.30%
Boruto	210,000	79.25%
Shippuden	232,000	110.48%
H×H	250,000	107.76%
AVERAGE	352,700	20th of 21

[The1gairon]

44 minutes ago, OwlChemist81 said:

Hey, we got Gemusetto Machu Picchu too!

"Adult Swim’s line-up performed as follows:   DRAGON BALL at 0.29 and at 0.11/355K & 0.12/336K, compared to last week’s 0.31 and 0.09/295K & 0.09 2.6K, MY HERO ACADEMIA up 0.01 to 0.20/414K, ATTACK ON TITAN (in an earlier 11:30PM slot) up 0.12 to 0.22/439K, PROMISED NEVERLAND up 0.0 to 0.20, SWORD ART ONLINE up 0.03 to 0.19, JOJO’S BIZARRE ADVENTURE up 0.05 to 0.19/330K, BLACK CLOVER steady at 0.14/265K, BORUTO up 0.01 to 0.11/210K, NARUTO up 0.01 to 0.12/232K, HUNTER X HUNTER up 0.01 to 0.13/250K, and GEMUSETTO MACHU PICCHU at 0.11/213K."

5/25/19 - Total Viewers
Show	Viewers	Retention
DBZ Kai	355,000
DBS (R)	336,000	94.65%
MHA	414,000
DBS (P)	610,000	147.34%
AOTS3P2	439,000	71.97%
TPN	398,000	90.66%
SAO3	379,000	95.23%
JoJo4	330,000	87.07%
B. Clover	265,000	80.30%
Boruto	210,000	79.25%
Shippuden	232,000	110.48%
H×H	250,000	107.76%
AVERAGE	352,700	20th of 21

Wow.

I seen the placement of each week nudge toward the very bottom.  I think 2019 will not be the last time people keep ditching cable.

[PokeNirvash]

1 hour ago, OwlChemist81 said:

Hey, we got Gemusetto Machu Picchu too!

Anime of the year, I tells ya.

[OwlChemist81]

Apparently, Son Of The Bronx didn't get the memo that Toonami is 10:30 PM-3:30 AM now.

Dragon Ball Z Kai (repeat) (ADSM, 8:00 PM, 30 min.) • 0.355 million viewers (#80) • 0.22 HH (#78) • 0.11 A18-49 (#71) • 0.12 A18-34 (#38) • 0.11 A25-54 (#84)
Dragon Ball Super (repeat) (ADSM, 8:30 PM, 30 min.) • 0.336 million viewers (#83) • 0.20 HH (#83) • 0.12 A18-49 (#61) • 0.13 A18-34 (#25) • 0.12 A25-54 (#80)
Rick & Morty (repeat) (ADSM, 9:00 PM, 30 min.) • 0.425 million viewers (#64) • 0.24 HH (#73) • 0.19 A18-49 (#27) • 0.17 A18-34 (#15) • 0.19 A25-54 (#43)
Rick & Morty (repeat) (ADSM, 9:30 PM, 30 min.) • 0.475 million viewers (#58) • 0.29 HH (#60) • 0.22 A18-49 (#17) • 0.21 A18-34 (#9) • 0.21 A25-54 (#34)
Family Guy (repeat) (ADSM, 10:00 PM, 30 min.) • 0.590 million viewers (#44) • 0.38 HH (#41) • 0.27 A18-49 (#11) • 0.29 A18-34 (#3) • 0.26 A25-54 (#24)
My Hero Academia (repeat) (ADSM, 10:30 PM, 30 min.) • 0.414 million viewers (#66) • 0.26 HH (#67) • 0.20 A18-49 (#22) • 0.25 A18-34 (#6) • 0.18 A25-54 (#46)

Read more: https://programminginsider.com/saturday-final-ratings-toronto-raptors-series-clinching-victory-helps-tnt-dominate-prime-time/#comment-24400

Edit: it's now fixed and correctly displays Toonami as 10:30 PM-3:30 AM.

Decent return to primetime for MHA!

5/25/19 - Adults 18-49
Show	Viewers	Retention
DBZ Kai	141,000*
DBS (R)	154,000*	109.22%
MHA	251,000	78.19%
DBS (P)	378,000	147.66%
AOTS3B	287,000	75.93%
TPN	255,000	88.85%
SAO3	249,000	97.65%
JoJo4	242,000	97.19%
B. Clover	184,000	76.03%
Boruto	147,000	79.89%
Shippuden	160,000	108.84%
H×H	172,000	107.50%
AVERAGE	233,000	14th of 21

[*denotes estimate]

Yeah, that's not bad. At least a hell of a lot better than last week! Just to be fair, it should also be noted that DBS through GMP (146K 18-49) actually outdid last week as well (18-49 average 222K).

MHA lost a lot from Family Guy, but DBS gained all that back and more to easily win the night in all known categories! And SAO, JoJo, Shippuden, and HxH were also strong retainers!

One last parting shot before I close the book on this week:

Live PD (repeat) (A&E, 9:00 PM, 180 min.) • 0.24 A18-34 (#7)

Rick & Morty (repeat) • 0.17 A18-34 (#15)
Rick & Morty (repeat) • 0.21 A18-34 (#9)
Family Guy (repeat) • 0.29 A18-34 (#3)
My Hero Academia • 0.25 A18-34 (#6)
Dragon Ball Super • 0.35 A18-34
Attack On Titan • 0.27 A18-34

ADULT SWIM/TOONAMI 9 PM-12 AM AVERAGE: 0.257 A18-34

SUCK IT, LIVE PD!!!

Edited June 4, 2019 by OwlChemist81

[Ginguy]

So, basically the NBA whooped on everyone's ass the past couple weeks. Figures.

Oddly enough, the LivePD-esque spinoffs are starting to appear, and disappear, so Live PD might be entering the mid-life phase of TV shows, and thus a lower rating share.

Problem is, Toonami doesn't have a strong draw to gain a portion of that share.

DBS and maybe AOT, but little else until possibly new MHA. Gundam is cool, don't get me wrong, but unless it has a thot in a tank top doing commentary it just isn't a draw.

Example:

It's a gundam, but eh....

Look, lots of Gundams, and a mystery box. Interest piqued.....

Spoiler

Yeah, the "gundams"....

 

[OwlChemist81]

Brace yourselves folks, because MAN, is this gonna HURT!

http://www.showbuzzdaily.com/articles/showbuzzdailys-top-150-saturday-cable-originals-network-finals-6-1-2019.html

Boruto was off the chart at #66 with a modest 206K viewers and a 0.11 in 18-49.

Clearly, having MHA lead Toonami isn't working out for Toonami...but wait! Didn't MHA also lead Toonami during the period last August and September when Attack on Titan impacted THAT schedule as well? If so, then what's the difference? Two Family Guys instead of one? And what does this mean for the future when there won't even BE a Family Guy?

Oh well; at least there's always American Dad to fall back on, I guess. They're gonna have to renegotiate contracts to get more weekly AD to pull that off though. Currently it's maxed-out Monday-Friday so they can't even play an episode on Saturday.

Edited June 4, 2019 by OwlChemist81

[brianycpht]

So this situation with MHA leading at 10:30 has got me thinking that the ultimate plan may to try and inch back to a 10pm start time and have the block end at 3. For some reason I have a feeling about this

In this scenerio, HxH will be replaced by a new show that airs at 11 and MHA and DBS are moved back....

I'm hoping that they realize the error of their ways and add an hour of Family Guy back in and sacrifice the Super encore or a Rick and Morty.

[Jman]

They’re losing the Family Guy rights later this year.

[Ginguy]

Without FG [as] is basically doomed. Their original programming, R&M aside, is utter trash, and Toonami is lacking in terms of serious draws beyond DBS.

Honestly it wouldn't surprise me to find [as] ending up as a streaming only block in two or three years.

 

[korosu]

27 minutes ago, Jman said:

They’re losing the Family Guy rights later this year.

Fall 2021

[OwlChemist81]

I disagree. I think Adult Swim CAN survive on its own without Family Guy or, for that matter, Bob's Burgers, but it REALLY needs to bone up on its successful originals and American Dad to do it.

I also believe limited sports programming, such as NCAA Basketball, may be a possibility in the future, especially with TruTV's future uncertain, and most of its more popular shows like Impractical Jokers and Adam Ruins Everything easily transferrable to TBS. If that sounds like a stretch, might be neat to have the voice actor of a popular CN/[as] show on color commentary.

[The1gairon]

... do you think the 70-plus greenlit episodes of Rick and Morty were made BECAUSE THEY FORESAW Family Guy leaving Adult Swim?

[OwlChemist81]

THE WHOLE DAMN NIGHT IN TOTAL VIEWERS, 18-49, AND 25-54, Y'ALL:

Dragon Ball Z Kai (R) (Adult Swim, 8:00 PM, 30 min.) • 0.288 million viewers [#668] • 0.11 A18-49 [#340] • 0.10 A25-54 [#526]
Dragon Ball Super (R) (Adult Swim, 8:30 PM, 30 min.) • 0.298 million viewers [#646] • 0.13 A18-49 [#216] • 0.11 A25-54 [#493]
Rick & Morty (R) (Adult Swim, 9:00 PM, 30 min.) • 0.385 million viewers [#444] • 0.17 A18-49 [#110] • 0.15 A25-54 [#278]
Rick & Morty (R) (Adult Swim, 9:30 PM, 30 min.) • 0.483 million viewers [#270] • 0.21 A18-49 [#71] • 0.18 A25-54 [#194]
Family Guy (R) (Adult Swim, 10:00 PM, 30 min.) • 0.617 million viewers [#170] • 0.27 A18-49 [#20] • 0.23 A25-54 [#87]
My Hero Academia (R) (Adult Swim, 10:30 PM, 30 min.) • 0.465 million viewers [#301] • 0.19 A18-49 [#85] • 0.18 A25-54 [#185]
Dragon Ball Super (Adult Swim, 11:00 PM, 30 min.) • 0.529 million viewers [#221] • 0.24 A18-49 [#35] • 0.22 A25-54 [#101]
Attack On Titan (Adult Swim, 11:30 PM, 30 min.) • 0.376 million viewers [#464] • 0.17 A18-49 [#113] • 0.15 A25-54 [#256]
The Promised Neverland (Adult Swim, 12:00 AM, 30 min.) • 0.310 million viewers [#622] • 0.14 A18-49 [#176] • 0.13 A25-54 [#376]
Sword Art Online: Alicization (Adult Swim, 12:30 AM, 30 min.) • 0.322 million viewers [#589] • 0.15 A18-49 [#149] • 0.14 A25-54 [#288]
Jojo’s Bizarre Adventure: Diamond is Unbreakable (Adult Swim, 1:00 AM, 30 min.) • 0.271 million viewers [#699] • 0.14 A18-49 [#167] • 0.13 A25-54 [#363]
Black Clover (R) (Adult Swim, 1:30 AM, 30 min.) • 0.238 million viewers [#758] • 0.13 A18-49 [#217] • 0.11 A25-54 [#470]
Boruto: Naruto Next Generations (Adult Swim, 2:00 AM, 30 min.) • 0.206 million viewers [#829] • 0.11 A18-49 [#367] • 0.09 A25-54 [#661]
Naruto: Shippuden (R) (Adult Swim, 2:30 AM, 30 min.) • 0.190 million viewers [#856] • 0.10 A18-49 [#453] • 0.08 A25-54 [#717]
Hunter X Hunter (R) (Adult Swim, 3:00 AM, 30 min.) • 0.211 million viewers [#822] • 0.11 A18-49 [#367] • 0.10 A25-54 [#594]
Gemusetto Machu Picchu (R) (Adult Swim, 3:30 AM, 30 min.) • 0.151 million viewers [#941] • 0.07 A18-49 [#687] • 0.06 A25-54 [#886]
The Boondocks (R) (Adult Swim, 4:00 AM, 30 min.) • 0.168 million viewers [#913] • 0.08 A18-49 [#638] • 0.07 A25-54 [#845]
Black Dynamite (R) (Adult Swim, 4:30 AM, 30 min.) • 0.179 million viewers [#889] • 0.08 A18-49 [#561] • 0.07 A25-54 [#831]
Venture Brothers (R) (Adult Swim, 5:00 AM, 30 min.) • 0.194 million viewers [#849] • 0.09 A18-49 [#492] • 0.08 A25-54 [#778]
Home Movies (R) (Adult Swim, 5:30 AM, 30 min.) • 0.160 million viewers [#928] • 0.08 A18-49 [#638] • 0.06 A25-54 [#897]

Read more: https://programminginsider.com/saturday-final-ratings-nhl-stanley-cup-final-game-3-gives-nbcsn-prime-time-victory-in-all-key-figures-despite-double-digit-declines-from-last-year/

For all this lineup's problems, MHA actually GREW its audience in total viewers and pretty much tied in 18-49 and 25-54 ratings! Everything else on Toonami was way down, though, and the result? Welp...

6/1/19 - Total Viewers
Show	Viewers	Retention
DBZ Kai	288,000
DBS (R)	298,000	103.47%
MHA	465,000	75.36%
DBS (P)	529,000	113.76%
AOTS3P2	376,000	71.08%
TPN	310,000	82.45%
SAO3	322,000	103.87%
JoJo4	271,000	84.16%
B. Clover	238,000	87.82%
Boruto	206,000	86.55%
Shippuden	190,000	92.23%
H×H	211,000	111.05%
AVERAGE	311,800	22nd of 22
6/1/19 - Adults 18-49
Show	Viewers	Retention
DBZ Kai	141,000
DBS (R)	167,000	118.44%
MHA	249,000	71.97%
DBS (P)	315,000	126.51%
AOTS3B	223,000	70.79%
TPN	183,000	82.06%
SAO3	194,000	106.01%
JoJo4	186,000	95.88%
B. Clover	167,000	89.78%
Boruto	136,000	81.44%
Shippuden	124,000	91.18%
H×H	136,000	109.68%
AVERAGE	191,300	22nd of 22

Thank you...NEXT!

Edited June 4, 2019 by OwlChemist81

[PokeNirvash]

4 hours ago, Ginguy said:

[as]... Their original programming, R&M aside, is utter trash...

As someone whose favorite show of all time is Venture Bros., I'm just gonna pretend I didn't hear that.

[The1gairon]

"22nd of 22"

me: NO SHIT!

[OwlChemist81]

To be fair, it was only 7k on average less than the previous nadir for the year in 18-49.

Edited June 5, 2019 by OwlChemist81

[Daos]

Obviously no Isekai quartet is severely hurting the block!

 

[The1gairon]

7 hours ago, Daos said:

Obviously no Isekai quartet is severely hurting the block!

 

I WISH this aired on Toonami.

But ideally, all 4 shows would need to air on the block beforehand.

[Ginguy]

23 hours ago, OwlChemist81 said:

I disagree. I think Adult Swim CAN survive on its own without Family Guy or, for that matter, Bob's Burgers, but it REALLY needs to bone up on its successful originals and American Dad to do it.

I also believe limited sports programming, such as NCAA Basketball, may be a possibility in the future, especially with TruTV's future uncertain, and most of its more popular shows like Impractical Jokers and Adam Ruins Everything easily transferrable to TBS. If that sounds like a stretch, might be neat to have the voice actor of a popular CN/[as] show on color commentary.

[as] was largely grown from being the only place that aired FG. They added a couple good comedy shows, tossed in an anime or two and made a really unique block. Since those earlier days they have not gotten anything really good to serve as a draw. FG is everywhere now. The uniqueness which served as a draw is gone. That leaves [as] with R&M, if or when that ever gets going to any real degree (yes I know season 4 is coming), and what else? Their other originals are generally trash. They could have had Archer, which would have been a good fit, they passed on it. FX(X) now has it and it did quite well. [as] has nothing like that which is reliably new and popular to serve as an anchor draw. Toonami is in the same boat, DBS is ending comparatively soon, and beyond that what do they have? Jojo shits the bed, Boruto stunk up so badly it got exiled, Black Clover might have worked but it got handled poorly to the point where it has been hobbled, and their original programming consisted of a pair of sequels no one wanted or watched, and Space Dandy, which was good but niche in a niche genre. We do't have much to look forward to, beyond the Blade Runner show, which I have high hopes for.

The ratings bear it out, [as] as a whole is down, and Toonami was really only ever supposed to draw a certain target audience, it was never a general audience block. Toonami's ratings will continue to fall because it is linked to [as], and [as] will continue to see ratings decline because [as] is green-lighting trash.

[OwlChemist81]

7 hours ago, Ginguy said:

They could have had Archer, which would have been a good fit, they passed on it. FX(X) now has it and it did quite well. 

You're not completely wrong. It's STILL doing well on FXX! It actually beat its timeslot on its "older sister" network FX!

Spoiler

Now, that doesn't beat what Family Guy is able to do in that timeslot on Saturday nights leading-in to Toonami; nor does it beat what Dragon Ball Super did the last 2 weeks, but still, it's pretty competitive! It did certainly beat what AOT did in most recently in total viewers and Adults 18-49 (but NOT 18-34)!

[Daos]

How can you not air this stuff, they're adorable!

 

[OwlChemist81]

Ok, so getting back to the RATINGS, this week wasn't that bad, but it wasn't great either:

http://www.showbuzzdaily.com/articles/showbuzzdailys-top-150-saturday-cable-originals-network-finals-6-8-2019.html

Toonami did decent against fairly weak competition; its biggest competitors were perpetual thorn in its side Live PD and, oddly enough, GOTG2 on TNT. But while the latter beat DBS soundly in 18-49,  it lost to it in 18-34, though their timeslots didn't necessarily overlap. Live PD's did, however, and as usual it wreaked havoc on MHA, DBS, and AOT. It would be interesting to see if MHA lost to the aggregate average of GOTG2 on TNT in 18-34, but who knows if we'll ever get to.

The real story on this night may not even be on this chart, however. UFC prelims got its butt kicked by Super, but the real UFC 238 show would be on ESPN+ later that night and directly competing with Toonami. While ESPN does not report its ESPN+ viewership, it's pretty clear who lost that fight in 18-34 and male 12-34. When the gap between male 12-34 and female 12-34 viewership is that close, it's clear the boys and guys were elsewhere.

At least Toonami is doing better than most other original animated programming on other networks on other nights of the week:

Spoiler

http://www.showbuzzdaily.com/articles/showbuzzdailys-top-150-wednesday-cable-originals-network-finals-6-5-2019.html

Even Boruto kicked Archer: 1999's ass in total viewers this week, though Archer did beat it 3 days earlier in Adults 18-49. Lost hard to everything else in other key demos though!

http://www.showbuzzdaily.com/articles/showbuzzdailys-top-150-friday-cable-originals-network-finals-6-7-2019.html Gary & His Demons finishes its TZGZ run with #97 and #112.

 

Edited June 11, 2019 by OwlChemist81

[The1gairon]

.... Live PD is alt-right??

[Ginguy]

Hey, so Toonami did pretty good in key demo, getting shades of green for DBS, AoT, PN, SAO and even Jojo. Total numbers might not be that high, but the share of audience was much better than what has been happening in past weeks.

 

5 minutes ago, elfie said:

.... Live PD is alt-right??

No.

No it isn't.

 

[OwlChemist81]

3 minutes ago, elfie said:

.... Live PD is alt-right??

I'm assuming it's probably mostly the Fox News crowd that watches it, considering their obsession with law enforcement. Maybe I'm alt-wrong.

But I personally don't find the concept all that interesting the few times I actually watched it on Friday (it's just like live Cops), and it has actually had an effect on the way law enforcement is carried out in several PDs that "star" its cops.

Plus its rise as a perpetual competitor to Toonami happened about the beginning of the Trump presidency, around the time Toonami's ratings went down.

[OwlChemist81]

8 minutes ago, Ginguy said:

Hey, so Toonami did pretty good in key demo, getting shades of green for DBS, AoT, PN, SAO and even Jojo. Total numbers might not be that high, but the share of audience was much better than what has been happening in past weeks.

 

No.

No it isn't.

 

I suppose you're right. But the reason the green returned was competition wasn't as tough. The previous 3 weeks, Toonami competed with the NBA Playoffs and the Stanley Cup. That threw off the scale for dark green so much Toonami couldn't achieve the green tint as easily.

Fair enough. I have removed that phrase from the post.

Edited June 11, 2019 by OwlChemist81

[Blatch]

49 minutes ago, elfie said:

.... Live PD is alt-right??

Not necessarily. It is pro-cop, but that's a different sin.

Just my two cents. I'm not intending to continue a flammable conversation. Regarding the ratings, they're lower again, which always seems to happen whenever Toonami moves up the whole block. Maybe they'll stabilize again if they let it stay this way for a few months, but my more cynical mind thinks it'll be messed with again beforehand.

[Jman]

This isn’t something one can blame on then UFC, because it’s clearly a structural issue, with most going “I can watch Super on demand but the fights are live.”