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Okay, two things:

  • It looks like the backdoor schedule is officially finally dead. The XML links no longer work, so the "enhanced backdoor" just shows the current list from [as]. You can still look ahead with cable guides, though, so this just means we're back to the dark ages of 2012-14 or so.
  • Reruns of Adventure Time are replacing Samurai Jack (and a half-hour of [as] originals) starting February 4. This isn't a bamboozle; DeMarco personally confirmed it.

 

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It just occurred to me that Samurai Jack first came to Toonami in February 2014, so it has been on Adult Swim in some capacity (either on air or streaming) for 5 years now. Could it be that it actually had a cross-network contract and went to Adult Swim for 5 years? And could it be that it was "traded" for Adventure Time?

I guess we'll never know for sure, but if [as] is down to just Season 5, which they produced, that would be telling.

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On 1/30/2019 at 1:21 PM, Blatch said:

Okay, two things:

  • It looks like the backdoor schedule is officially finally dead. The XML links no longer work, so the "enhanced backdoor" just shows the current list from [as]. You can still look ahead with cable guides, though, so this just means we're back to the dark ages of 2012-14 or so.
  • Reruns of Adventure Time are replacing Samurai Jack (and a half-hour of [as] originals) starting February 4. This isn't a bamboozle; DeMarco personally confirmed it.

 

Adventure Time?  Why the fuck would the average Toonami viewer care about Adventure Time?

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Adventuretime has proven to be more than what people expect from the usual children's show, but that doesn't mean it's a good fit for Adult Swim. What was their reasoning for this? Did they want to finally give fans easier exposure to a show they have recently tried to get rid of and shove by the wayside, only to find there was no more room to air in on CN proper? Did they think that because fans of Adventuretime and the all-but-stated adult cartoon Regular Show overlapped, this would work?

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Sometimes a step back follows several steps forward. I'm afraid this is one of those times:

http://www.showbuzzdaily.com/articles/showbuzzdailys-top-150-saturday-cable-originals-network-finals-2-2-2019.html

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Well, at least Mob Psycho 100 and Megalobox DID improve in total viewers AND key demos for their respective season and mid-season finales! (Yes, I'm calling this the Megalobox "mid-season finale" since it takes a break this week for the return of SAO!) Also, Dragon Ball Super may have decreased in total viewers, but it did increase in Adults 18-49 and 18-34, but Boruto dropped in all 3. It will be interesting to see where this places among the first 5 block averages for the year once all the numbers come in.

I haven't done one of these in a while, but I think it's time:

YEAR EVERYTHING ON TOONAMI WAS RELEASED IN JAPAN:

Dragon Ball Super - 2017
Boruto - 2017
My Hero Academia - 2017
Sword Art Online: Alicization - 2018
[Megalobox - 2018]
JoJo's Bizarre Adventure: Diamond Is Unbreakable - 2016
Black Clover - 2018
Hunter x Hunter - 2014
Shippuden - 2011
Attack On Titan - 2018
Pop Team Epic - 2018
Mobile Suit Gundam: Iron-Blooded Orphans - 2017

Damn, that is a FRESH block!! NINE of the shows from either last year or the year before!

DBZ Kai was kind of the outlier and I'm glad it got put on the prime-time companion Dragon Ball Power Hour block!

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Are we confused at every single thing that happens nowadays? What weakness.

The ratings are decent, but seeing everyone lose their minds over the recent episode of Mob Psycho (from Season 2) is really making me wish it got to air on Toonami immediately. And it's even sadder because I completely whiffed on the the first season's TV airing.

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Welp.

Rick & Morty (ADSM, Sat. 2/02/2019 9:30 PM, 30 min.) • 0.408 million viewers [#197] • 0.19 A18-49 [#158] • 0.16 A25-54 [#200]
Family Guy (R) (ADSM, Sat. 2/02/2019 10:00 PM, 30 min.) • 0.694 million viewers [#138] • 0.34 A18-49 [#17] • 0.31 A25-54 [#61]
Family Guy (ADSM, Sat. 2/02/2019 10:30 PM, 30 min.) • 0.849 million viewers [#97] • 0.42 A18-49 [#11] • 0.38 A25-54 [#27]
Dragon Ball Super (ADSM, Sat. 2/02/2019 11:00 PM, 30 min.) • 0.758 million viewers [#122] • 0.38 A18-49 [#14] • 0.36 A25-54 [#38]
Boruto: Naruto Next Generations (ADSM, Sat. 2/02/2019 11:30 PM, 30 min.) • 0.516 million viewers [#177] • 0.25 A18-49 [#56] • 0.23 A25-54 [#144]
My Hero Academia (ADSM, Sat. 2/02/2019 12:00 AM, 30 min.) • 0.479 million viewers [#186] • 0.23 A18-49 [#64] • 0.20 A25-54 [#175]
Mob Psycho 100 (ADSM, Sat. 2/02/2019 12:30 AM, 30 min.) • 0.437 million viewers [#193] • 0.22 A18-49 [#83] • 0.20 A25-54 [#173]
Megalobox (ADSM, Sat. 2/02/2019 1:00 AM, 30 min.) • 0.394 million viewers [#198] • 0.20 A18-49 [#106] • 0.18 A25-54 [#190]

2/2/19 - Total Viewers
Show Viewers Retention
DBS (P) 758,000 89.28%
Boruto 516,000 68.07%
MHA 479,000 92.83%
MP100 437,000 91.23%
MegaloBox 394,000 90.16%
JoJo4 326,000 82.74%
B. Clover 286,000 87.73%
H×H 243,000 84.97%
Shippuden 276,000 113.58%
AOTS3 192,000 69.57%
PTE 186,000 96.88%
Gundam 197,000 105.91%
AVERAGE 357,500 5th of 5 :(
     
2/2/19 - Adults 18-49
Show Viewers Retention
DBS (P) 487,000 90.52%
Boruto 316,000 64.89%
MHA 299,000 94.62%
MP100 281,000 93.98%
MegaloBox 264,000 93.95%
JoJo4 207,000 78.41%
B. Clover 178,000 85.99%
H×H 150,000 84.27%
Shippuden 157,000 104.67%
AOTS3 111,000 70.70%
PTE 110,000 99.10%
Gundam 115,000 104.55%
AVERAGE 222,917 3rd of 5 :/


Read more: https://programminginsider.com/saturday-final-ratings-valentine-in-the-vineyard-on-hallmark-leads-all-cable-telecasts-in-total-viewers/

 

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Hopefully SAO3's hour-long special provides a bump after Bo & MHA crash the ratings next week!

http://www.showbuzzdaily.com/articles/showbuzzdailys-top-150-saturday-cable-originals-network-finals-2-2-2019.html

"The Adult Swim line-up performed as follows:  DRAGON BALL at 0.38 and 0.09/282K & 0.11/313K compared to last week’s 0.35 and 0.16/489K & 0.16/431K"

Dear God, what the hell led-in to Adult Swim last week!?

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Light novels are cancer.

Miyazaki was right. Anime writers need to stop looking within their own genre for inspiration and look at the outside world, watch some good ass movies, etc.

You know some of the inspiration these writers would get by watching shit like Mandy, Hereditary, The Favourite, Sorry To Bother You, Spider-verse, etc.?

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2 hours ago, Blatch said:

The most important thing is that the isekai with the false rape accusation is #1, so Toonami will have no choice but to air it. B|

People had legitimate reasons for bitching about SAO and it’s getting a Netflix series.

Given that, Shield Hero is gonna get a goddamn summer blockbuster.

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7 minutes ago, MasqueradeOverture said:

Light novels are cancer.

Miyazaki was right. Anime writers need to stop looking within their own genre for inspiration and look at the outside world, watch some good ass movies, etc.

You know some of the inspiration these writers would get by watching shit like Mandy, Hereditary, The Favourite, Sorry To Bother You, Spider-verse, etc.?

Who wants to see the anime that results from someone watching Green Book?

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Interesting-looking night so far. Dragon Ball Super back above 800K, and Boruto actually did better in Adults 18-34 and Adults 18-49 than it ever has, but then SAO came back with Alicization, and it was "Ehhh…":

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That's pretty much equivalent to last year's April Fool's Day stunt "Mind Game." So far, this has been the most hyped-up thing of 2019, and it doesn't seem like it lived up to the hype. But is that the fault of being led-into by a weaker episode of MHA than this week's, with its odd couple showdown of Deku and Bakugo vs. All Might would be? I guess we'll see if SAO: Alicization Episode 2 gets a boost a week from today! Also, we don't know how MHA did yet, because of Adult Swim's bizarre, stubborn insistence that it's a "rerun".

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I'll admit, last week's hour-long special of SAO was a SLOG. It was like 15 minutes of actual action and suspense, 15 minutes of exposition, and 15 of nigh-incomprehensible pseudotechnobabble.

That said, those 15 minutes of action and suspense were among the best 15 minutes of the night, with dueling dragons in the Underworld, guns blazing in GGO, and the climactic real-world cliffhanger that saw Kirito apparently poisoned while dealing damage to Johnny Black with a freaking UMBRELLA.

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4 hours ago, OwlChemist81 said:

I'll admit, last week's hour-long special of SAO was a SLOG. It was like 15 minutes of actual action and suspense, 15 minutes of exposition, and 15 of nigh-incomprehensible pseudotechnobabble.

The pacing was tolerable for me. Do you think it would've worked better as two episodes?

The reason they made the premiere extra long is probably because the first half was something different that would've confused people without context, but I thought it would've made a great cliffhanger.

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PTE and Gundam went out on a decent note, posting their highest total viewer numbers their 2nd highest 18-49 viewers numbers for 2019!

http://www.showbuzzdaily.com/articles/showbuzzdailys-top-150-saturday-cable-originals-network-finals-2-9-2019.html

https://programminginsider.com/saturday-final-ratings-duke-virginia-basketball-on-espn-is-most-watched-sporting-event-of-the-day/

 
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
 
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
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Wait, that REALLY formatted weird--let me try that again!!

2/9/19 - Total Viewers
Show Viewers Retention
DBZ Kai 326,000  
DBS (R)  336,000 103.07%
DBS (P) 802,000  
Boruto 557,000 69.45%
MHA 502,000 90.13%
SAO3 394,000 78.49%
JoJo4 316,000 80.20%
B. Clover 318,000 100.63%
H×H 284,000 89.31%
Shippuden 317,000 111.62%
AOTS3 288,000 90.85%
PTE 255,000 88.54%
Gundam 253,000 99.22%
AVERAGE 390,000 3rd of 6 ^_^
     
2/9/19 - Adults 18-49
Show Viewers Retention
DBZ Kai* 128,000  
DBS (R)* 167,000 130.47%
DBS (P) 493,000  
Boruto 344,000 69.78%
MHA 293,000 85.17%
SAO3 233,000 79.52%
JoJo4 188,000 80.69%
B. Clover 182,000 96.81%
H×H 160,000 87.91%
Shippuden 191,000 119.38%
AOTS3 181,000 94.76%
PTE 161,000 88.95%
Gundam 161,000 100.00%
AVERAGE 235,000 3rd of 6 :)
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5 minutes ago, Kuroko said:

And Sao never even broke 500k for a brand new premiere 

Seems that rape scene they showed awhile back did a great damage to their fanbase 

... buddy, that raep scene won't arrive for another nine whole episodes. That should have nothing to do with this.

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7 hours ago, elfie said:

I am VERY nervous by that drop after Dragonball Super. Have we ever had that steep a drop before?

Yeah, this week was actually BETTER retention in both total viewers and adults 18-49 than even last! (69%/70% vs. 68%/65%). A quick scroll up reveals that. Remember, earlier I said this week was actually a new high for Boruto in both adults 18-34 and 18-49! It also seemed to be fueled at least partially by girl power since it pulled a 0.25 in F12-34, only down 0.1 from the M12-34 number, though oddly enough NOT SAO, which if you'll recall was one of the major "girl power" shows of 2015. The premiere of SAO3 was overwhelmingly male in the 12-34 demographic, only 0.03 less than double the female number. Perhaps that's because MHA is more of a "manly" show that lost the ladies?

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5 hours ago, Kuroko said:

Seems that rape scene they showed awhile back did a great damage to their fanbase 

It has more to do with the natural degradation of Toonami's ratings over time. Comparing Alicization to the last season, which aired in the revived block's highest-rated year, is just unfair.

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In week 2, SAO seems to have found some of its old magic, despite the fact that the only real action in that episode was Kirito trying to chop down a tree...

http://www.showbuzzdaily.com/articles/showbuzzdailys-top-150-saturday-cable-originals-network-finals-2-16-2019.html

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This means Dragon Ball Super is almost certainly back above 500K 18-49/300K 18-34, the first Toonami show to go over 300K 18-34 for a while! Meanwhile Boruto HAS been slightly higher in total viewers, but NOT in those key demos, and ditto for Megalobox and the current seasons of the other shows! It's hard to believe this is the first episode of DiU to have gotten a 0.2 in 18-49, but that's actually true!

As is sometimes the case whenever ratings get delayed due to a holiday, the ProgrammingInsider report came out early this week:

https://programminginsider.com/saturday-final-ratings-nba-all-star-saturday-night-on-tnt-rebounds-a-bit-from-last-year/

2/16/19 - Total Viewers
Show Viewers Retention
DBZ Kai 360,000  
DBS (R)  410,000 113.89%
DBS (P) 822,000  
Boruto 600,000 72.99%
MHA 564,000 94.00%
SAO3 513,000 90.96%
MegaloBox 424,000 82.65%
JoJo4 397,000 93.63%
B. Clover 364,000 91.69%
H×H 317,000 87.09%
Shippuden 323,000 101.89%
AOTS3 257,000 79.57%
AVERAGE 458,100 1st of 7 :D
     
2/16/19 - Adults 18-49
Show Viewers Retention
DBZ Kai* 192,000  
DBS (R)*  205,000 106.77%
DBS (P) 551,000  
Boruto 395,000 71.69%
MHA 359,000 90.89%
SAO3 332,000 92.48%
MegaloBox 286,000 86.14%
JoJo4 256,000 89.51%
B. Clover 230,000 89.84%
H×H 198,000 86.09%
Shippuden 211,000 106.57%
AOTS3 158,000 74.88%
AVERAGE 297,600 1st of 7 xD

*indicates number of viewers estimated based on ratings number given in hundredths.

Well, getting rid of the 4 AM hour did wonders for the block average, but I'm dying to know what the numbers were for Boondocks and Black Dynamite. The website hints that we may get to know those in an update...

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