RainyDayJizz#35 Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 Are starting to bother me as much as religious zealots. I read YouTube comments from time to time as one of my new sources of entertainment, and whenever god is mentioned you can almost count on someone to come along and say, "Well it's a good thing there's no god." What's funnier to me is that people are starting to just ignore them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Distortedreasoning Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 atheist always seem like they are trying to seem cool or edgy or some way superior. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RainyDayJizz#35 Posted June 8, 2018 Author Share Posted June 8, 2018 Maybe they're new atheists? The problem is they're always belittling the other's belief in what is ultimately exactly the same thing. Zealots of a peaceful cause? Hmm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunStarHero Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 This is basically how I see atheists these days. Especially younger ones. I used to be like that when I was a kid. Thought I was so fucking smart. Nowadays, if anything, I'm just an optimistic nihilist. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwimModSponges Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 That's an awfully large brush you're painting with there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RainyDayJizz#35 Posted June 8, 2018 Author Share Posted June 8, 2018 4 minutes ago, SwimModSponges said: That's an awfully large brush you're painting with there. How else do you paint a big picture? There's some detail to the thought, but that's mostly for my own edification. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
death_by_motorboat Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 1 hour ago, GreatBallsOfJizz said: Are starting to bother me as much as religious zealots. I read YouTube comments from time to time as one of my new sources of entertainment, and whenever god is mentioned you can almost count on someone to come along and say, "Well it's a good thing there's no god." What's funnier to me is that people are starting to just ignore them. i like how theyre biggest single piece of evidence is that we cannot prove a god exists, when it is actually something harder to prove he does not exist, having the physical world as a tool to assess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Distortedreasoning Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 56 minutes ago, GreatBallsOfJizz said: Maybe they're new atheists? The problem is they're always belittling the other's belief in what is ultimately exactly the same thing. Zealots of a peaceful cause? Hmm. thats what im saying. they belittle people and offer no real explanation to anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
André Toulon Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 I just don't care....And if by some stretch of the imagination there is a god, I'll bet he appreciates the fact that I'm not constantly praising and and blaming him for shit I did my damn self. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaBarney Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 I think God is probably drugs, something like that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hornshire Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 Internet quipsters tend to be assholes. That a portion of those assholes are atheists should not be surprising. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enad Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 New Atheists are just microwaved American imperialists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwimModSponges Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 4 hours ago, mumbo13 said: i like how theyre biggest single piece of evidence is that we cannot prove a god exists, when it is actually something harder to prove he does not exist, having the physical world as a tool to assess. It is literally impossible to prove something doesn't exist; that's why scientists don't run around trying to prove that there isn't a single tea cup floating in orbit halfway between the earth and the moon. If there were evidence of the floating tea cup, we'd say "Huh, looks like there's probably something similar to a floating tea cup up there..." then we would do more observations on the object until we were able to conclusively state that the teacup does likely exist. You can't do the opposite, it does not work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
André Toulon Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwimModSponges Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 Nor is it evidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SwimModSponges Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 Ok, here's something I have an issue with; I feel like there's an inherent goalpost-moving when it comes to the idea of atheists and beliefs. The atheist position is the nonbelief of a generally anthropomorphic being or beings whom both created and observe our planet and especially us; judging our every action with their all knowing eyes. That'd be your various Yawehs, Jehovas, Allahs, Zueases, An, Enlil, Ninhursag.... Yeah those guys all probably don't exist. I mean, I can't prove that they don't so I can't say for certain, but personally I'm on the disbelieving side of the equation. Then you have the "Well what about everything?" argument. "I mean, what if we're all part of this giant blob thing made of all reality, and that thing is god, man?" To which I reply, while taking the bong from you: "We are... man." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bnmjy Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 idk, deriding militant atheist have been the norm online for at least five years now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sieg67 Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 (edited) There are pushy atheist just like how there are pushy creationist. People in both groups can be annoying. People in any kind of group can be annoying. Edited June 9, 2018 by Sieg67 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
molarbear Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 10 hours ago, GreatBallsOfJizz said: Are starting to bother me as much as religious zealots. I read YouTube comments from time to time as one of my new sources of entertainment, and whenever god is mentioned you can almost count on someone to come along and say, "Well it's a good thing there's no god." What's funnier to me is that people are starting to just ignore them. It doesn't matter what people believe in, there's always going to be those few that take it way too extreme and go out of their way to force it down people's throats. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PurgatoryGirl Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 (edited) 12 years later, "Religionklok" is still my favorite episode of Metalocalypse next to "Deth Troll."😂 Edited June 10, 2018 by PurgatoryGirl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naraku360 Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 10 hours ago, mumbo13 said: i like how theyre biggest single piece of evidence is that we cannot prove a god exists, when it is actually something harder to prove he does not exist, having the physical world as a tool to assess. But science has already disproven a huge chunk of the bible. If most of it isn't credible on even small scale details, why should we believe it on the grandest, most abstract level? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
André Toulon Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 6 hours ago, SwimModSponges said: Nor is it evidence. It's a cartoon voiced by Samuel L Jackson....Don't take this persoanlly....This isn't the mokeyu/yeti thing. I made my stance clear in my first post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
molarbear Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 12 minutes ago, naraku360 said: But science has already disproven a huge chunk of the bible. If most of it isn't credible on even small scale details, why should we believe it on the grandest, most abstract level? You don't have to and you shouldn't be criticized for it. That being said people that choose to do so out of comfort or belief shouldn't be criticized every step of the way for their believes either. Believe it or not it's that simple imo Once again there are people on both sides of the argument that feel like it's "there way or the highway" and that's why I hate people. I think everyone needs to just spend their free time with their friends or family, and if they're not available you build a blanket fort and keep to yourself the entire time It works for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RainyDayJizz#35 Posted June 9, 2018 Author Share Posted June 9, 2018 23 minutes ago, naraku360 said: But science has already disproven a huge chunk of the bible. If most of it isn't credible on even small scale details, why should we believe it on the grandest, most abstract level? The bible isn't the only source on god. And he's not wrong, proving a negative is far more difficult than a positive. In logic when you want to prove a negative true the first route to try is assume it positive. There are more than the usual internet denizens I think about, they're just a convenient example. The first person I can think of with any audience is David Cross, probably because he annoys me the most. The way most of them speak about religion shows a very rudimentary understanding of it as well. Maybe anyone that is vocal about their beliefs at large isn't worth listening to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naraku360 Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 2 minutes ago, GreatBallsOfJizz said: The bible isn't the only source on god. And he's not wrong, proving a negative is far more difficult than a positive. In logic when you want to prove a negative true the first route to try is assume it positive. There are more than the usual internet denizens I think about, they're just a convenient example. The first person I can think of with any audience is David Cross, probably because he annoys me the most. The way most of them speak about religion shows a very rudimentary understanding of it as well. Maybe anyone that is vocal about their beliefs at large isn't worth listening to. Basically every deity has been formulated off assumptions and implausible claims. He may be right that proving a negative is harder than proving a positive, yet scientific evidence largely suggests a nonexistence of god or gods. And the evidence for the positive? Fox News amd shitty blogs run by people who deliberately avoid understanding science? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RainyDayJizz#35 Posted June 9, 2018 Author Share Posted June 9, 2018 (edited) Most deities exist to tell a story. I don't know how many times I've said my family is Catholic, Omaha is a Catholic city, I have exposure to it and other varieties of Christianity because of the nature of that city. Religion as a formal structure executed properly creates decent human beings, which is what it is designed to do. The exact response of atheism is to attack zealotry to discard evidence of the supernatural. Any atheist argument can be dismissed with one question. When was the last time you died? Edited June 9, 2018 by GreatBallsOfJizz 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naraku360 Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 40 minutes ago, GreatBallsOfJizz said: Most deities exist to tell a story. I don't know how many times I've said my family is Catholic, Omaha is a Catholic city, I have exposure to it and other varieties of Christianity because of the nature of that city. Religion as a formal structure executed properly creates decent human beings, which is what it is designed to do. The exact response of atheism is to attack zealotry to discard evidence of the supernatural. Any atheist argument can be dismissed with one question. When was the last time you died? I mean, your question works both ways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RainyDayJizz#35 Posted June 9, 2018 Author Share Posted June 9, 2018 Exactly. While one can claim the nature of science as evidence for no god, one could do the same to claim evidence of. Gravity waves, the nature of matter to create and nurture life. It's such an amazing system it having a design would not be surprising. Nor would it be surprising to be the ultimate result of the randomness of atomic interaction. But the fact that atomic interaction points towards a goal is truly amazing. Honestly I'm on Buddy's page. If there's a god around I think it appreciates I take responsibility for my own life. If it's even paying attention. If you created a machine that perpetually creates life would you watch it forever or move on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwimModSponges Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 5 hours ago, GreatBallsOfJizz said: iWhen was the last time you died? March 15, 2006. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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