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Just now, Athena 92 said:

I had one today, but I'm hoping to replace my current job with a new one. Pay would be about the same or a little less than my current job but pretty much everything else would be better. 

I assume it won't be for the state again?

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Yep, I finally got the new number for my old supervisors boss, and he said over the phone he'll send me the onboarding paperwork AGAIN, and make sure I get the drug screen and everything else needed.. I'm about to be a cable contractor on the weekdays, and a cardboard 'brick wall' builder on the weekends.

That bank though. $_$

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1 hour ago, Nabloom said:

My state is the only one in the country that offers free community college and technical college and I just can't make myself do it bc wage slaving feels so good 

What the hell are you doing with your life?

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46 minutes ago, PhilosipherStoned said:

Yep, I finally got the new number for my old supervisors boss, and he said over the phone he'll send me the onboarding paperwork AGAIN, and make sure I get the drug screen and everything else needed.. I'm about to be a cable contractor on the weekdays, and a cardboard 'brick wall' builder on the weekends.

That bank though. $_$

You seem to sift through jobs quite often . . . is it just that you don't like them?

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27 minutes ago, bnmjy said:

You seem to sift through jobs quite often . . . is it just that you don't like them?

I left my work as a prison CO after just 1 year, but I got an oppurtunity to start work as an equipment operator for an oil fracking company that paid much more...just as I was about to make my way over (since it wasn't a local position for me)

the guy that was supposed to be my team leader called and said they laid him off and were downsizing.. I didn't quit my job in cable contracting though the company got bought out and the new company has been dragging it's feet on getting me my license and equipment to start up again in cable.. So I HAD to find another job to survive in the meantime and I did..

It pays 16.30 an hour with 12 hr shifts..

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3 minutes ago, mumbo13 said:

how do you support yourself now? 

why the heck do you all of a sudden need to take on another job? 

is it full-time? 

starbucks is one right?  whats the other?

You keeping tabs on me now? 9_9

Because I got into debt with credit cards and I need to pay them off. Plus, I want a new car (well, a better used car).

Yes, Starbucks barista is my full-time job. Gas station clerk will be my other. I imagine it will be less stressful, with fewer uppity customers.

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Another update no one gives a shit about: Had the second interview this afternoon and I think it went well. He told me there were four more interviews after me, and he'd let everyone know who was picked on Monday. It makes me think he already decided on me, but idk. I know better than to get my hopes up. If I get rejected, oh well.

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2 minutes ago, Naraku4656 said:

spirit stops being worth as much when you can't afford jack shit. that's why i went the route i did

I made the choice between time and money long ago. As far as I'm concerned 50 hours a week is plenty out of anyone. I knew people that did 60 or 80, and they thrived on caffeine. Awesome people. That's not for me. Dream job I could do almost constantly. I might do that already... I just don't get paid for it.

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The older you get, the more you realize how little money actually gets you. You probably won't make enough to buy your own house.  It might get you a vacation.  You could buy a decent car and take a day off every now... except that would mean taking a day off to afford that car.  You'll never get to the point where you can afford to do "jack shit."

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7 minutes ago, scoobdog said:

The older you get, the more you realize how little money actually gets you. You probably won't make enough to buy your own house.  It might get you a vacation.  You could buy a decent car and take a day off every now... except that would mean taking a day off to afford that car.  You'll never get to the point where you can afford to do "jack shit."

except that many of my friends including myself have bought or are buying a house. i don't regularly take international vacations, yeah fine ok, but i am taking one later this year. not saying i make a shit ton because i don't, but i also know that people who say that money doesn't matter are wrong.

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It's a regional issue. Work is needed where it is, mostly due to the development of sea trade since barges were once the most efficient way to transport a huge mass of goods, pretty sure it still is. And we've developed an idea that some work is more valuable than other types of work. There is surely work that everyone could do, and work that only certain people can do, but we still need all of these people. I just hope that in the future some basic pattern recognition is used in the distribution of funds among humanity.

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except that many of my friends including myself have bought or are buying a house. i don't regularly take international vacations, yeah fine ok, but i am taking one later this year. not saying i make a shit ton because i don't, but i also know that people who say that money doesn't matter are wrong.

Money matters, but it isn't as important as a night with a friend from work complaining about how the company works.

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14 minutes ago, GreatBallsOfJizz said:

Money matters, but it isn't as important as a night with a friend from work complaining about how the company works.

depends how much and how much you need it. sometimes social events need to take a backseat if you need it to.

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except that many of my friends including myself have bought or are buying a house. i don't regularly take international vacations, yeah fine ok, but i am taking one later this year. not saying i make a shit ton because i don't, but i also know that people who say that money doesn't matter are wrong.

You'll figure it out eventually.  Obviously, it's not an absolute - money can do more in certain places than others - and it's a given that you have to make some money to survive.  The thing, though, is that money doesn't provide more than the essentials in the long run.  Really, what anyone seeks is a job that makes enough money to meet one's needs while still affording him or her the time off to do other things, whether it to be attend to personal obligations, socialize, or habitate with family.  When give a choice between having more off-work time (it's not free time) or having more money, inevitably the former wins out because money can't compensate for being unable to do the things one needs to accomplish outside of work.  This is the kind of thing that makes more sense the older you get.

 

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5 minutes ago, Naraku4656 said:

depends how much and how much you need it. sometimes social events need to take a backseat if you need it to.

More often than not, socializing is more important than making extra money.  If the choice is between making enough to put food on the table, then it's really just a choice of what will damage you less, starvation or isolation.

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1 minute ago, scoobdog said:

More often than not, socializing is more important than making extra money.  If the choice is between making enough to put food on the table, then it's really just a choice of what will damage you less, starvation or isolation.

i disagree. if i absolutely had to make that choice, 10/10 i'd pick isolation over starvation. age doesn't matter in this case

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i disagree. if i absolutely had to make that choice, 10/10 i'd pick isolation over starvation. age doesn't matter in this case

You can't say age doesn't matter because you're not old enough to say it does.  But, you're missing the point - people in the position where they have to make such a choice are killing themselves slowly no matter what they choose.  You have to make enough money to survive and you have to have social interaction outside of work, neither is negotiable.

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5 minutes ago, scoobdog said:

You'll figure it out eventually.  Obviously, it's not an absolute - money can do more in certain places than others - and it's a given that you have to make some money to survive.  The thing, though, is that money doesn't provide more than the essentials in the long run.  Really, what anyone seeks is a job that makes enough money to meet one's needs while still affording him or her the time off to do other things, whether it to be attend to personal obligations, socialize, or habitate with family.  When give a choice between having more off-work time (it's not free time) or having more money, inevitably the former wins out because money can't compensate for being unable to do the things one needs to accomplish outside of work.  This is the kind of thing that makes more sense the older you get.

 

still disagree with this. if i needed to work 3 jobs to be able to afford what i need, i'd do it in a heartbeat. also what's essential to you is not necessarily what someone else finds essential. being social is still a nice to have, but if someone wants to be less social in order to afford something a little extra why not.

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Just now, scoobdog said:

You can't say age doesn't matter because you're not old enough to say it does.  But, you're missing the point - people in the position where they have to make such a choice are killing themselves slowly no matter what they choose.  You have to make enough money to survive and you have to have social interaction outside of work, neither is negotiable.

everything is negotiable. also i've had similar conversations with people at my company, people in their 50's and 60's. most agreed that if that extra job is what you need then it's what you need regardless of social activities. and yes, both are negotiable. not everyone wants to be social or values social interactions that highly.

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still disagree with this. if i needed to work 3 jobs to be able to afford what i need, i'd do it in a heartbeat. also what's essential to you is not necessarily what someone else finds essential. being social is still a nice to have, but if someone wants to be less social in order to afford something a little extra why not.

Humans are social animals.  Regardless of what you think, you absolutely need to socialize.  I notice you're hedging your argument, and that's disingenuous given the circumstances:  how much you need to socialize is entirely dependent on your personality, so I'm not suggesting that you need to socialize more or less.  I'm saying that you can't sacrifice the bare minimum social interaction for you to make a little extra money, at least in the long term.

I'm sure part of it is this myth that socializing means going out every Saturday night and clubbing or taking weekends here or there with the guys (or girls) to do things.  That's not really what socialization is.  In overly-simple terms, it means interacting interpersonally in ways that could simply be calling a friend up and spending an hour or so just talking.  For a lot of people, that could be an utterly meaningless conversation about nothing in particular:  the value comes in with the simple act of interacting.  There are a couple of important things that happen when you interact - it allows you to calibrate your ability to read secondary cues (like body language and vocal inflection), and it also gives you an important reference point to judge your own actions and reaction.   From a sociological perspective, humans aren't born with a complete skill set; interaction with fellow humans allows us to compensate for the elements we lack while offering an "safety net" of connections.

There is a reason why work weeks are supposed to be limited to 40 hours.  Anything more than that ultimately leads to you missing out on valuable interactions that can have ramification on your life both inside and out of work.

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