PokeNirvash Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 Great job for Jack. Yeesh for everything else. If Demarco was dead, he'd be spinning in his grave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianycpht Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 Well, would you look at the time... http://www.showbuzzdaily.com/articles/showbuzzdailys-top-150-saturday-cable-originals-network-finals-3-11-2017.html Samurai Jack debuted to 1,552,000 viewers... but DBZ Kai couldn't even break a million? What's up with that? And those numbers for Jojo and Gundam .....672 and 579 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 Jack is back. Everything else is dead as a doornail. And March Madness didn't officially start till Tuesday! There was a UFC Fight Night, but ouch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokeNirvash Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 Would it be safe to blame Super for this? [fucking toei] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 Would it be safe to blame Super for this? [fucking toei] Considering Super's reviews are in the toilet (Look, GT was bad but it was short and the last third of the series is considered a lot better), I would say yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The1gairon Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 Well, would you look at the time... http://www.showbuzzdaily.com/articles/showbuzzdailys-top-150-saturday-cable-originals-network-finals-3-11-2017.html Samurai Jack debuted to 1,552,000 viewers... but DBZ Kai couldn't even break a million? What's up with that? ... where is DB Super at 11:30 ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blatch Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 Technically, the 8:00P counts as the premiere, so only that one is listed in the cart. We'll get it with the Programming Insider list, which will also have that preceding hour of Family Guy which I think will do more to tell us how the night did. Here's the way I see it: If the Griffins were strong, that would indicate a lot of casual viewers stayed for Jack but quite a few of them left afterwards, which would not be a very good pattern for the schedule if it continues; if they did weak, it would indicate a bad week in general that only got a boost thanks to the new show, which would certainly make me feel better about it and further prove its strength on the night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainStarwind Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 If Super really did screw the pooch on Saturday, that could appear to indicate that the casual audience really just has an interest in Dragon Ball Z, rather than anything Dragon Ball related. It doesn't help the Super has quite a bit more comedy than Z did, which might alienate a lot of people. Or maybe a lot of it was just UFC taking viewers. Being that it was the premiere of new Samurai Jack, I could see a lot of people tuning in for that and then leaving to watch something else. What time was UFC Saturday night? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 Card ran 10pm-12:30am on FS1. Easy to tuck in a Jack ep during the undercard and come back for the co-main and main. Good card too. Ton of KO's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokeNirvash Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 So it's Super and UFC's fault then. Alright. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OwlChemist81 Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 http://www.showbuzzdaily.com/articles/showbuzzdailys-top-150-saturday-cable-originals-network-finals-3-11-2017.html 3/11/2017 Dragon Ball Super (8 PM) - #33 Adults 18-34 Rating - 0.31 Estimated 18-34 - 211,000 ( 24.62% ) Adults 18-49 Rating - 0.28 Estimated 18-49 - 359,000 ( 41.89% ) Total Viewers - 857,000 3/11/2017 Samurai Jack - #2 Adults 18-34 Rating - 1.04 Estimated 18-34 - 707,000 ( 45.55% ) Adults 18-49 Rating - 0.76 Estimated 18-49 - 974,000 ( 62.76% ) Total Viewers - 1,552,000 3/11/2017 DBZ Kai: Final Chapters - #15 Adults 18-34 Rating - 0.59 Estimated 18-34 - 401,000 ( 44.41% ) Adults 18-49 Rating - 0.42 Estimated 18-49 - 538,000 ( 59.58% ) Total Viewers - 903,000 3/11/2017 JoJo's Bizarre Adventure - #27 Adults 18-34 Rating - 0.44 Estimated 18-34 - 299,000 ( 44.49% ) Adults 18-49 Rating - 0.32 Estimated 18-49 - 410,000 ( 61.01% ) Total Viewers - 672,000 3/11/2017 Gundam Unicorn - #39 Adults 18-34 Rating - 0.36 Estimated 18-34 - 245,000 ( 43.06% ) Adults 18-49 Rating - 0.26 Estimated 18-49 - 333,000 ( 58.52% ) Total Viewers - 569,000 THE GOOD: The long-awaited season premiere of Samurai Jack shatters 2017 records, even beating Family Guy in that timeslot through most of January and February! THE BAD: JoJo and Gundam REALLY crapped the bed. And a lighthearted DBZ Kai Final Chapters apparently didn't do them any favors. Hopefully when Babidi and Buu appear, that will change, but I'm not holding my breath. THE UGLY: Well, so much for continuity helping out! THIS is why Tokyo Ghoul is coming at 1 AM in 2 weeks. At this point, the Super rerun, DBZKFC, and JoJo are little more than sacrificial lambs to the great and powerful SNL, but hopefully that has a huge audience come back to Toonami after SNL and that bleeds over to Gundam and even Hunter x Hunter! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OwlChemist81 Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 We still don't know if Samurai Jack beat its Family Guy lead-in in the 10 PM hour, but we DO know it beat previous weeks at 11 PM: Date Time Total Viewers Adults 18-49 1/7/2017 FamGuy 11:00 PM 1,629,000 940,000 1/14/2017 FamGuy 11:00 PM 1,433,000 868,000 1/21/2017 FamGuy 11:00 PM 1,389,000 794,000 1/28/2017 FamGuy 11:00 PM 1,423,000 808,000 2/4/2017 FamGuy 11:00 PM 1,436,000 893,000 2/11/2017 FamGuy 11:00 PM 1,564,000 921,000 2/18/2017 FamGuy 11:00 PM 1,427,000 825,000 2/25/2017 FamGuy 11:00 PM 1,434,000 810,000 3/4/2017 FamGuy 11:00 PM 1,329,000 820,000 3/11/2017 JACK!!! 11:00 PM 1,552,000 974,000 Keep in mind that 974K for Jack's 18-49 is an estimate based on 0.76 in 18-49, but it still blows away Family Guy's average of 853K and beats every single previous week in 2017. And Jack's 1552K in total viewers also beats every week of Family Guy but two, and of course also the average of 1452K by pretty much exactly 100K! And THIS is kinda neat, but with SBD this site is about as useless as Dio calls everything now: http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/daily-ratings/saturday-cable-ratings-march-11-2017/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daos Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 Am I reading this wrong or did JoJo outperform Super in the key demos? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OwlChemist81 Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 You're not reading it wrong; however, that's the 8 PM Super premiere, not the 11:30 near-premiere JoJo has beat Super at 8 PM in key demos every week since the latter premiered at the beginning of the year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The1gairon Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 Technically, the 8:00P counts as the premiere, so only that one is listed in the cart. We'll get it with the Programming Insider list, which will also have that preceding hour of Family Guy which I think will do more to tell us how the night did. Here's the way I see it: If the Griffins were strong, that would indicate a lot of casual viewers stayed for Jack but quite a few of them left afterwards, which would not be a very good pattern for the schedule if it continues; if they did weak, it would indicate a bad week in general that only got a boost thanks to the new show, which would certainly make me feel better about it and further prove its strength on the night. It sucks that our momentum depends on a poorly-animated dyfunctional family. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blatch Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 I didn't really mean it that way. In fact, I'd say the post was equally about FG and Jack. But let me put it this way: This is only the first week, so we shouldn't read too much into these numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OwlChemist81 Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 I'd be inclined to agree except that no show's timeslot changed. They were doing yearly highs or just below before Jack hit, and the fact that now they've stumbled so low is frustrating and perplexing! A more likely upset may occur on 3/25 when Tokyo Ghoul hits and actually knocks 3 shows down 30 minutes. It could also have something to do with blizzards or something? Still, that Jack's audience dwindled down to a little more than a third just 2 hours later is far from encouraging. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainStarwind Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 But let me put it this way: This is only the first week, so we shouldn't read too much into these numbers. I think this stands for both SJ and the rest of the block. We won't know until next week whether Samurai Jack can keep this momentum or if a lot of it was just people tuning in for the first week. As for the rest of the block, I think it's a fair assumption that UFC took away viewers who would have otherwise stayed. Once we get numbers for the 11:30 Super it will be easier to determine, but I think that may be the case. Or maybe it was just an off night, or something. Those happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasqueradeOverture Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 I'm beginning to think looking at what a mere 5,000 cable boxes watched to determine the whole of ratings is outdated as fuck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OwlChemist81 Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 http://toonamifaithful.com/toonami-trending-rundown-for-march-11-12-2017/ Looking at trending, I think it's very safe to say that UFC had some sort of effect, as for the mainstay of the night it locked Toonami out of the #1 spot. Only Samurai Jack broke through: United States Trends: Toonami [#2] #SamuraiJack/Samurai Jack (Also during the West Coast airing) [#1] #JackIsBack [#3] #DragonBallSuper [#5] #DBZKai [#3] #JoJosBizarreAdventure [#3] #GundamUnicorn [#3] #HunterXHunter [#3] #Shippuden [#3] #OnePiece [#2] #GhostInTheShell [#2] Click the above link and you'll find it was UFC that took the #1 spot most of the night, not Jack. And what the hell is up with Dragonball Super only reaching #5!? Worldwide Trends: #SamuraiJack [#1] #DragonBallSuper [#7] #DBZKai [#9] #JoJosBizarreAdventure [#8] #GundamUnicorn [#8] #HunterXHunter [#8] #OnePiece [#6] #GhostInTheShell [#7] Well, at least all shows except Shippuden made the Top 10 Worldwide, and of course Jack accomplished the rare feat of a #1 trend Worldwide! Tweet Counts: Toonami [13.2k tweets] #SamuraiJack [36.9k tweets] Samurai Jack [37.2k tweets] #DragonBallSuper [4,873 tweets] #DBZKai [2,217 tweets] #JoJosBizarreAdventure [2,795 tweets] #HunterXHunter [1,718 tweets] #OnePiece [4,443 tweets] Those are some HUGE tweet counts for Samurai Jack! Too bad Gundam and Shippuden's tweet counts were missed somehow! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blatch Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 Well, it's now Thursday night, and ProgrammingInsider still doesn't have an article for Saturday up. ShowBuzz updated with Hunter's overall total (569K/0.26, same as Gundam) and I guess the 11:30 DB Super, but nothing else. EDIT: Okay, here we go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokeNirvash Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 Oh wow Shippuden actually beat JoJo in total numbers. It's a sad day for ratings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mochi Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 Oh wow Shippuden actually beat JoJo in total numbers. It's a sad day for ratings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mochi Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 while we're on the subject my local grocery store was playing Roundabout over the intercom the other day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokeNirvash Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 That's good, but not as good as the time I heard Yours Is No Disgrace over the P.A. at my campus's Barnes & Noble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginguy Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 So, to sum up.... Jack good. Naruto surprised all. Should have canned Jojo instead of Uno Pacu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blatch Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 Well, maybe if they play Stardust Crusaders soon, people will actually be more interested in what's arguably the most important part of the franchise for westerners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasqueradeOverture Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 That's good, but not as good as the time I heard Yours Is No Disgrace over the P.A. at my campus's Barnes & Noble. Dude... That is prog as fuck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OwlChemist81 Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 Well, maybe if they play Stardust Crusaders soon, people will actually be more interested in what's arguably the most important part of the franchise for westerners. Some recent rumors are indicating we may be heading right for it as soon as the current season of JoJo finishes! As for retention and show averages, well... 11:00 PM Samurai Jack 1,552,000 (105.72%) 11:30 PM Dragon Ball Super 1,251,000 (80.61%) 12:00 AM DBZ Kai: The Final Chapters 903,000 (72.18%) 12:30 AM JoJo's Bizarre Adventure 672,000 (74.42%) 1:00 AM Mobile Suit Gundam Unicorn 569,000 (84.67%) 1:30 AM Hunter × Hunter 569,000 (100.00%) 2:00 AM Naruto: Shippuden 674,000 (118.45%) 2:30 AM One Piece 657,000 (97.48%) 3:00 AM Ghost In The Shell HD 602,000 (91.63%) TOTAL VIEWERS AVERAGE - 827,667 11:00 PM Samurai Jack 973,000 (115.01%) 11:30 PM Dragon Ball Super 733,000 (75.33%) 12:00 AM DBZ Kai: The Final Chapters 542,000 (73.94%) 12:30 AM JoJo's Bizarre Adventure 405,000 (74.72%) 1:00 AM Mobile Suit Gundam Unicorn 339,000 (83.70%) 1:30 AM Hunter × Hunter 337,000 (99.41%) 2:00 AM Naruto: Shippuden 379,000 (112.46%) 2:30 AM One Piece 364,000 (96.04%) 3:00 AM Ghost In The Shell HD 334,000 (91.76%) ADULTS 18-49 TOONAMI AVERAGE - 489,556 The boost that Jack provided turned a below-average night into an above-average one!! As for the shows' running averages themselves... CURRENT SHOW AVERAGES Total Viewers Dragon Ball Super (8 PM) - 913,700 (10 episodes) Samurai Jack - 1,552,000 (1 episode) Dragon Ball Super (11:30 PM) - 1,215,900 (10 episodes) Dragon Ball Z Kai: Final Chapters - 1,072,700 (10 episodes) Jojo's Bizarre Adventure - 925,000 (20 episodes) Mobile Suit Gundam Unicorn - 757,500 (10 episodes) Hunter × Hunter - 853,762 (42 episodes) Naruto: Shippuden - 873,903 (149 episodes) One Piece - 788,746 (177 episodes) Ghost In The Shell HD - 532,167 (6 episodes) Adults 18-49 Dragon Ball Super (8 PM, Estimate) - 431,100 (10 episodes) Samurai Jack - 973,000 (1 episode) Dragon Ball Super (11:30 PM) - 728,600 (10 episodes) Dragon Ball Z Kai: Final Chapters - 638,400 (10 episodes) Jojo's Bizarre Adventure - 556,450 (20 episodes) Mobile Suit Gundam Unicorn - 448,900 (10 episodes) Hunter × Hunter - 503,476 (42 episodes) Naruto: Shippuden - 483,710 (132 episodes) One Piece - 429,182 (132 episodes) Ghost In The Shell HD - 321,500 (6 episodes) Adults 18-34 (Estimated) Dragon Ball Super (8 PM) - 285,333 (9 episodes) Samurai Jack - 707,000 (1 episode) Dragon Ball Z Kai: Final Chapters - 436,200 (10 episodes) Jojo's Bizarre Adventure - 375,200 (20 episodes) Mobile Suit Gundam Unicorn - 307,700 (10 episodes) Gundam still sticks out like a sore thumb, which is why its fate shall be to air at 2 AM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokeNirvash Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 Dude... That is prog as fuck. I know. It was magical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OwlChemist81 Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 Here are the 3/15/17 10 PM Samurai Jack rerun's numbers to beat: http://programminginsider.com/ratings/final-nationals/wednesday-final-nationals-survivor-cbs-viewed-prime-time-telecast-despite-series-low-premiere-date/ On 3/8/17 at 10 PM, Bob's burgers got 1356K total viewers (ranked #28 in primetime cable) and a 0.66 in Adults 18-49 (ranked #7). Let's see what Jack can do with its rerun... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianycpht Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 Looks like it got 1.04 M at 10.00 pm and 628k at 2:30. http://www.showbuzzdaily.com/articles/showbuzzdailys-top-150-wednesday-cable-originals-network-finals-3-15-2017.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasqueradeOverture Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 Oh man, how the fuck is Conan still on the air with those numbers? Between that and 700k being good enough for Mr. Robot to get another season, I think it's safe to assume Toonami ain't going anywhere for a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianycpht Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 Oh man, how the fuck is Conan still on the air with those numbers? Between that and 700k being good enough for Mr. Robot to get another season, I think it's safe to assume Toonami ain't going anywhere for a while. They've been talking about moving him to once a week with more effort on online stuff since that seems to be more of where his fan base is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The1gairon Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 Looks like it got 1.04 M at 10.00 pm and 628k at 2:30. http://www.showbuzzdaily.com/articles/showbuzzdailys-top-150-wednesday-cable-originals-network-finals-3-15-2017.html A million on a weeknight!?!? Awesome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The1gairon Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 Oh man, how the fuck is Conan still on the air with those numbers? Between that and 700k being good enough for Mr. Robot to get another season, I think it's safe to assume Toonami ain't going anywhere for a while. If it makes more sense to you, he's in talks with TBS on possibly reformatting the talk show into a once-a-week thing instead of 4 times a week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OwlChemist81 Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 Looks like it got 1.04 M at 10.00 pm and 628k at 2:30. http://www.showbuzzdaily.com/articles/showbuzzdailys-top-150-wednesday-cable-originals-network-finals-3-15-2017.html Hey, not too shabby! In 18-49 by my math that's about a 603K at 10 PM and a 385K at 2:30 AM! That'll do! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OwlChemist81 Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 http://programminginsider.com/ratings/final-nationals/wednesday-final-nationals-big-4-nets-share-piece-prime-time-victory/ It dropped a little from American Dad to Bob's Burgers, but not by THAT much!! At least Bob's recovered a bit from Jack's dip! Of course in the week-to-week, Bob still beat the hell out of it, but whatcha gonna do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianycpht Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 Not sure if many people even knew it was going to encore there. I wish they did more to promote it. Especially after the reviews got out saying how good the premere episode was. Still though it's a decent number for weeknight action in prime time! A rerun of a show they own is free to them after all vs a syndicated show like Bob's! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OwlChemist81 Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 I don't believe ANY Toonami show has EVER accomplished THIS feat before: http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/weekly-ratings/cable-top-25-for-march-6-12-2017/ #24 for the WEEK!! Also, on 3/15/17, Samurai Jack's first rerun got 67% of its premiere audience, 62% in 18-49. But hopefully the 2nd episode of Samurai Jack outdid the first. We'll find out tomorrow! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OwlChemist81 Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 Well, first the bad news: Jack was down a bit. The GOOD news though is that all the other cable originals were WAY up! 3/18/2017 Dragon Ball Super (8 PM) - #28 Adults 18-34 Rating - 0.37 Estimated 18-34 - 251,000 ( 31.22% ) Adults 18-49 Rating - 0.29 Estimated 18-49 - 372,000 ( 46.27% ) Total Viewers - 804,000 3/18/2017 Samurai Jack - #5 Adults 18-34 Rating - 0.87 Estimated 18-34 - 591,000 ( 45.46% ) Adults 18-49 Rating - 0.68 Estimated 18-49 - 872,000 ( 67.08% ) Total Viewers - 1,300,000 3/18/2017 DBZ Kai: Final Chapters - #9 Adults 18-34 Rating - 0.64 Estimated 18-34 - 435,000 ( 44.71% ) Adults 18-49 Rating - 0.48 Estimated 18-49 - 615,000 ( 63.21% ) Total Viewers - 973,000 3/18/2017 JoJo's Bizarre Adventure - #11 Adults 18-34 Rating - 0.56 Estimated 18-34 - 381,000 ( 48.23% ) Adults 18-49 Rating - 0.41 Estimated 18-49 - 526,000 ( 66.58% ) Total Viewers - 790,000 3/18/2017 Gundam Unicorn - #15 Adults 18-34 Rating - 0.46 Estimated 18-34 - 313,000 ( 46.10% ) Adults 18-49 Rating - 0.36 Estimated 18-49 - 462,000 ( 68.04% ) Total Viewers - 679,000 The ugly is of course that College Basketball pretty much trashed Toonami to the point that it didn't win any of its timeslots before 1 AM, but it was probably at least #2. However, it's possible that Gundam Unicorn, in its last night at 1 AM, may actually have won its timeslot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misaka Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 That Wisconsin game was funny so many brackets has to be destroyed by that game On another note all big games that deal with big time ? like this toonami will loose ratings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 The brackets got slit like the Daughter of Aku. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misaka Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 The brackets got slit like the Daughter of Aku. It's funny to see how intense the people get when their brackets gets destroyed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainStarwind Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 It's funny to see how intense the people get when their brackets gets destroyed One of the reasons why I don't make a bracket. Well that, and because the only time I made a bracket, I had the pleasure of guessing every single one of my first picks wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokeNirvash Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 When I do brackets, it's either for the fun of it, or me assigning an anime to each team so that as the tournament actually plays out, the one show left standing is the winner. [baccano won last year] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianycpht Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 This is about what I expected Jack to do. I sure hope that it did better than Family Guy again, this show is so damn good it deserves it! What is going on with DBZ KAI? It seems that ever since Toonami started earlier, the ratings it normally got as the first show just shifted over to whatever the new first show was despite it staying in the same timeslot! Seems to be normal drop-offs from KAI on down so far, but when KAI can't hit a million, everything is going to be lower in general Could be that people come for Jack and Super and are just not as big on KAI anymore? I'm curious to see how Super did this week and how well the retention was from Super to Kai. You think that that would have the best chance of retaining that audience it would be those two shows! People have suggested splitting them up, but do they have faith in any show, new or old, retaining the audience better? We'll see in the coming weeks if Tokyo Ghoul and whatever new shows are coming make a difference. Of course, once we get outside of March Madness, it could be a whole new ball game! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blatch Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 Maybe March Madness is precisely why they decided to slot Samurai Jack right here? They know it would do well regardless of where they premiered it on the calendar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokeNirvash Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 Clearly the problem is either the 11:30 Super being a rerun, or Super being aired to begin with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianycpht Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 Of course I think the 8pm is limiting it somewhat. I also read on various places like Reddit that some people just aren't around at 8 so they watch later. I'm sure others watch 8 and can't stay watch at 11:30. So in some regards I think they capture different audiences, but I'm sure there exists a subset of casual viewers who just watch Super outside of Toonami who would have otherwise watched at 11:30. I wish there was just the one airing though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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