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BTW, that's not QUITE right; the first 2 AM hour was action and the 2nd was DST comedy filler. I think it was Halloween ATHF but I'm not sure. That might have been the following year!

 

Unfortunately, I have practically no way of double checking this.  When I made this document, I was using primarily the Trunk's Watches Threads on the old Lithium boards.  Those, obviously, are now all gone.  I guess I can check and see what Toonzone has, but I've seen some problems with their schedule listings before, so who knows what will show up.

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Another good week. Not great like this week the last 2 years, but "good":

 

http://www.showbuzzdaily.com/articles/showbuzzdailys-top-150-saturday-cable-originals-network-finals-3-4-2017.html

 

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Thanks to College Basketball, no shows made the Top 5 this week, but that's ok, because unlike last week all 3 Toonami shows made the Top 10!

 

3/4/2017 Dragon Ball Super (8 PM) - #16

Adults 18-34 Rating - 0.37

Estimated 18-34 - 251,000 ( 29.29% )

Adults 18-49 Rating - 0.33

Estimated 18-49 - 423,000 ( 49.36% )

Total Viewers - 857,000

 

3/4/2017 DBZ Kai: Final Chapters - #6

Adults 18-34 Rating - 0.62

Estimated 18-34 - 421,000 ( 38.20% )

Adults 18-49 Rating - 0.52

Estimated 18-49 - 667,000 ( 60.53% )

Total Viewers - 1,102,000

 

3/4/2017 JoJo's Bizarre Adventure - #8

Adults 18-34 Rating - 0.53

Estimated 18-34 - 360,000 ( 38.26% )

Adults 18-49 Rating - 0.43

Estimated 18-49 - 551,000 ( 58.55% )

Total Viewers - 941,000

 

3/4/2017 Gundam Unicorn - #9

Adults 18-34 Rating - 0.49

Estimated 18-34 - 333,000 ( 36.67% )

Adults 18-49 Rating - 0.41

Estimated 18-49 - 526,000 ( 57.93% )

Total Viewers - 908,000

 

DBZ KFC up slightly and JoJo steady in 18-49 despite shedding total viewers, while Gundam Unicorn just did better than it's done yet in every category except Adults 18-34. I believe this show is going to be kind of a "sleeper" hit, which would make sense since the later episodes correspond to harder-to-find episodes of the OVA, while the earlier episodes have been out for a while!

 

I kind of expect the following for next week's disappearance of old Samurai Jack from 8:30 and much hyped premiere of SJ at 11:00 PM, as we should have 5 shows which make this chart:

 

Dragon Ball Super @ 8 PM: 800K-1M; 300K-500K 18-49; 200K-350K 18-34

Samurai Jack @ 11 PM: 1.5M-1.8M; 800K-1M 18-49; 600K-800K 18-34

Dragon Ball Z Kai/Final Chapters @ 12 AM: 1.1M-1.3M; 700K-900K 18-49; 500K-700K 18-34

JoJo's Bizarre Adventure @ 12:30 AM: 900K-1.1M; 600K-800K 18-49; 400K-600K 18-34

Gundam Unicorn @ 1 AM: 900K-1.1M; 550K-750K 18-49; 350K-550K 18-34

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KFC?  ... Oh. "Kai The Final Chapter".  :D

 

Wow. DB Super is only in the 800,000's??

 

At 8 PM, yes, though its peaks so far in each category are:

1,073,000 total viewers (2/25/17)

507,000 adults 18-49 (also 2/25/17, though 1/7/17 may have been higher at 0.4/~512K but we really don't know for sure since it was only reported also as "0.4")

~340,000 adults 18-34 (1/14/17)

 

Its more "official" 11:30 Toonami airing (though technically a rerun) usually hits about 1.2M, peaking at 1.367M on 1/7/17--so far. With Samurai Jack Season 5 as its lead-in it should do MUCH better!

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At 8 PM, yes, though its peaks so far in each category are:

1,073,000 total viewers (2/25/17)

507,000 adults 18-49 (also 2/25/17, though 1/7/17 may have been higher at 0.4/~512K but we really don't know for sure since it was only reported also as "0.4")

~340,000 adults 18-34 (1/14/17)

 

Its more "official" 11:30 Toonami airing (though technically a rerun) usually hits about 1.2M, peaking at 1.367M on 1/7/17--so far. With Samurai Jack Season 5 as its lead-in it should do MUCH better!

 

Dat's moah like it!

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Consistency is helpful.

 

Agreed. And when consistency is broken, there should be a hyped reason for it. I would say that the first major break from consistency of 2017, "moving" Jack from 8:30 PM to 11 PM (and having it join Toonami with premieres) has more than adequate hype. Moving the comedy reruns while keeping the Toonami shows consistent was a wise move!

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Unfortunately, I have practically no way of double checking this.  When I made this document, I was using primarily the Trunk's Watches Threads on the old Lithium boards.  Those, obviously, are now all gone.  I guess I can check and see what Toonzone has, but I've seen some problems with their schedule listings before, so who knows what will show up.

 

After snooping around Toonzone I found some info.  Drinky Crow, Superjail, Young Person's Guide to History, and Delocated were the shows that aired in the DST hour that year.  I cannot find out when that hour aired (before or after Bleach).  Given what I already had down, though, I'm going to assume it was before Bleach.  It would make more sense that way, anyway.

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After snooping around Toonzone I found some info.  Drinky Crow, Superjail, Young Person's Guide to History, and Delocated were the shows that aired in the DST hour that year.  I cannot find out when that hour aired (before or after Bleach).  Given what I already had down, though, I'm going to assume it was before Bleach.  It would make more sense that way, anyway.

 

I remember clearly that those shows were after Bleach/FMA encore, because I stayed up all night that night to watch the premiere of Code Geass R2. Thank goodness it got a rerun at 2 AM the following week, which for me was the very watchable 1 AM which Shippuden currently occupies!

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SBD updated, and here's what we know so far:

 

12:00 AM DBZ Kai: The Final Chapters 1,102,000 #DIV/0!

12:30 AM JoJo's Bizarre Adventure 941,000 (85.39%)

1:00 AM Mobile Suit Gundam Unicorn 908,000 (96.49%)

1:30 AM Hunter × Hunter 800,000 (88.11%)

2:00 AM Naruto: Shippuden 745,000 (93.13%)

2:30 AM One Piece 578,000 (77.58%)

3:00 AM Ghost In The Shell HD 528,000 (91.35%)

 

Yes, it's really annoying that they don't give any info on 11:30 Super, but it is what it is. It will be interesting to see if there will just be a hole there next week as well.

 

As for 18-49's, well...

 

12:00 AM DBZ Kai: The Final Chapters 0.52 N/A

12:30 AM JoJo's Bizarre Adventure 0.43 (82.69%)

1:00 AM Mobile Suit Gundam Unicorn 0.41 (95.35%)

1:30 AM Hunter × Hunter 0.36 (87.80%)

2:00 AM Naruto: Shippuden 0.35 (97.22%)

2:30 AM One Piece 0.28 (80.00%)

3:00 AM Ghost In The Shell HD 0.24 (85.71%)

 

More to come later!!

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I'd say that's quite possible! Also...

 

http://programminginsider.com/ratings/final-nationals/saturday-final-nationals-espn-leads-prime-time-duke-north-carolina-viewed-college-basketball-game-regular-season/

 

It was the Highest-rated regular season basketball game of the season the PT shows were up against, so it isn't any wonder they faltered. And 11:30 Super did pretty damn good considering it's lead-in Family Guy didn't even crack 1.4 million and just barely 800K 18-49.

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Family Guy sure isn't doing what it used to. Weeknights were even down (when tvbytn was still listing it). Relatively speaking, compared to how AS as a whole is doing, Toonami is doing just fine. Jack could take it to a whole other level. Would love if it and DB Super could outrank FG this week! I'm also rooting for the 10pm Wed airing of Jack! Let's show AS that a little action will work outside of late Saturday! If somethIng they own can do well, it may give  incentive to do more original action and perhaps get  Toonami expanded even more!

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Family Guy has faced a lot of backlash over the years due to reduced quality.  Unlike Simpsons (which has always maintained a nostalgic sweet spot and international appeal, particularly in Japan) and South Park (which has constantly reinvented itself over its 20 year run) it hasn't really changed and people appear to be tiring of it.

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Family Guy sure isn't doing what it used to. Weeknights were even down (when tvbytn was still listing it). Relatively speaking, compared to how AS as a whole is doing, Toonami is doing just fine. Jack could take it to a whole other level. Would love if it and DB Super could outrank FG this week! I'm also rooting for the 10pm Wed airing of Jack! Let's show AS that a little action will work outside of late Saturday! If somethIng they own can do well, it may give  incentive to do more original action and perhaps get  Toonami expanded even more!

 

Wait, what!? Jack is getting a WEDNESDAY night encore!? That's...pretty much insane!

 

*Checks, looks*

 

...and yet it's true! And not only that, but a 3-peat at 2:30 AM! Not even Dragonball Super can boast that! I hope this works out well and this trend continues, especially if Jack is replaced by something less mainstream like Attack on Titan Season 2. Would love to see that get a replay on Wednesday nights at 10 PM--perhaps preceded by ANOTHER FUNimation simul-dub which doesn't actually show up during Toonami except maybe as an encore toward the end after One Piece. But either way, Samurai Jack reruns airing on Wednesday nights just might be the first step toward action on weeknights!

 

But I digress. Getting back to the past (pun intended), here are the full ratings from this past Saturday:

 

TOTAL VIEWERS RETENTION:

8:00 PM Dragon Ball Super 857,000

8:30 PM Samurai Jack 550,000 (64.18%)

 

11:00 PM Family Guy 1,329,000

11:30 PM Dragon Ball Super 1,217,000 (91.57%)

12:00 AM DBZ Kai: The Final Chapters 1,102,000 (90.55%)

12:30 AM JoJo's Bizarre Adventure 941,000 (85.39%)

1:00 AM Mobile Suit Gundam Unicorn 908,000 (96.49%)

1:30 AM Hunter × Hunter 800,000 (88.11%)

2:00 AM Naruto: Shippuden 745,000 (93.13%)

2:30 AM One Piece 578,000 (77.58%)

3:00 AM Ghost In The Shell HD 528,000 (91.35%)

TOTAL VIEWERS AVERAGE - 852,375

 

ADULTS 18-49 RETENTION

8:00 PM Dragon Ball Super 427,000

8:30 PM Samurai Jack 286,000 (66.98%)

 

11:00 PM Family Guy 820,000

11:30 PM Dragon Ball Super 738,000 (90.00%)

12:00 AM DBZ Kai: The Final Chapters 663,000 (89.84%)

12:30 AM JoJo's Bizarre Adventure 557,000 (84.01%)

1:00 AM Mobile Suit Gundam Unicorn 525,000 (94.25%)

1:30 AM Hunter × Hunter 468,000 (89.14%)

2:00 AM Naruto: Shippuden 443,000 (94.66%)

2:30 AM One Piece 354,000 (79.91%)

3:00 AM Ghost In The Shell HD 311,000 (87.85%)

ADULTS 18-49 TOONAMI AVERAGE - 507,375

 

Those are actually the 2nd highest of 2017 so far in either category. From its shaky start to the year, Toonami just seems to be continually improving!

 

Last but not least, we have the show averages, and almost everything in Toonami proper is up:

 

CURRENT SHOW AVERAGES

Total Viewers

Dragon Ball Super (8 PM) - 919,111 (9 episodes)

Samurai Jack Rerun (8:30 PM) - 657,750 (8 episodes)

Dragon Ball Super (11:30 PM) - 1,212,000 (9 episodes)

Dragon Ball Z Kai: Final Chapters - 1,091,556 (9 episodes)

Jojo's Bizarre Adventure - 938,316 (19 episodes)

Mobile Suit Gundam Unicorn - 778,444 (9 episodes)

Hunter × Hunter - 860,707 (41 episodes)

Naruto: Shippuden - 875,253 (148 episodes)

One Piece - 789,494 (176 episodes)

Ghost In The Shell HD - 518,200 (5 episodes)

 

Adults 18-49

Dragon Ball Super (8 PM, Estimate) - 439,111 (9 episodes)

Samurai Jack Rerun (8:30, Estimate) - 314,875 (8 episodes)

Dragon Ball Super (11:30 PM) - 728,111 (9 episodes)

Dragon Ball Z Kai: Final Chapters - 649,111 (9 episodes)

Jojo's Bizarre Adventure - 564,421 (19 episodes)

Mobile Suit Gundam Unicorn - 461,111 (9 episodes)

Hunter × Hunter - 507,537 (41 episodes)

Naruto: Shippuden - 484,509 (131 episodes)

One Piece - 429,679 (131 episodes)

Ghost In The Shell HD - 319,000 (5 episodes)

 

Adults 18-34 (Estimated)

Dragon Ball Super (8 PM) - 289,625 (8 episodes)

Dragon Ball Z Kai: Final Chapters - 440,111 (9 episodes)

Jojo's Bizarre Adventure - 379,211 (19 episodes)

Mobile Suit Gundam Unicorn - 314,667 (9 episodes)

 

Well done, Toonami! Now keep it up next week when new Samurai Jack joins the party!

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Family Guy has faced a lot of backlash over the years due to reduced quality.  Unlike Simpsons (which has always maintained a nostalgic sweet spot and international appeal, particularly in Japan) and South Park (which has constantly reinvented itself over its 20 year run) it hasn't really changed and people appear to be tiring of it.

 

People should be tired of it, it's had an insanely long run with 2 spinoff shows doing the same cutaway gag humor.

 

Live action sitcoms don't get to last this long, that's for sure.

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Yeah, I always thought Jack would be our best shot to return one action to weeknights. They own it and it doesn't cost them anything extra to air. FLCL might be in a similar situation. We'll see how it does. There's little risk for them to try this, so hopefully it does well and it can grow a little from there.

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People should be tired of it, it's had an insanely long run with 2 spinoff shows doing the same cutaway gag humor.

 

... American Dad is only considered a "spin-off" show due to having the same creators and the same studio. It otherwise shares no characters, settings, or plots with any of them.

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... American Dad is only considered a "spin-off" show due to having the same creators and the same studio. It otherwise shares no characters, settings, or plots with any of them.

 

Right, and it's more story-driven and doesn't really use cutaway gag humor like the other two. Because of that, I actually find it a bit better and more watchable. But Family Guy is clearly getting old...

 

Enter Samurai Jack, which just might usher action animation back to its former brilliance!

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Wow, an action show on a weeknight?  When was the last time that happened?

 

Well it seems the last action show to air on a weeknight was an airing of Bleach on July 16, 2010, at 2:15 in the morning.  It was part of the Burger King schedule promotion from that year.  Beyond that, Inuyasha aired at 5:30 on the weeknights throughout 2008 after the regular action on weeknights was cancelled, so this really is a big step that Adult Swim is rerunning Samurai Jack on a weeknight.  What could this lead to?  Possibly to some weeknight action, though I'm not going to hold my breath for it right now.  Let's just hope the rerun gets good ratings, and we can go from there.

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Wow, an action show on a weeknight?  When was the last time that happened?

 

Well it seems the last action show to air on a weeknight was an airing of Bleach on July 16, 2010, at 2:15 in the morning.  It was part of the Burger King schedule promotion from that year.  Beyond that, Inuyasha aired at 5:30 on the weeknights throughout 2008 after the regular action on weeknights was cancelled, so this really is a big step that Adult Swim is rerunning Samurai Jack on a weeknight.  What could this lead to?  Possibly to some weeknight action, though I'm not going to hold my breath for it right now.  Let's just hope the rerun gets good ratings, and we can go from there.

 

I'd be all for moving One Piece and Naruto to weeknights, that way their slow pacing wouldn't be an issue.

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... American Dad is only considered a "spin-off" show due to having the same creators and the same studio. It otherwise shares no characters, settings, or plots with any of them.

 

Same creators, studio, same plot lines recycled between the 3 shows, same universe, same time line, same voice actors, and crossovers.

 

If you want to argue that it's not technically a spin off, the main reason would be because it wasn't supposed to be, it was supposed to be a replacement for Family guy which had been canceled.

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I'd be all for moving One Piece and Naruto to weeknights, that way their slow pacing wouldn't be an issue.

 

I wish they had a better deal with those two. I wish they could get a bulk of episodes for cheaper and play them to catch up to newer stuff. I doubt they could afford that many episodes a year! I remember when they used to burn through six months  worth (at 1 a week) of Inuyasha in a month!

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Same creators, studio, same plot lines recycled between the 3 shows, same universe, same time line, same voice actors, and crossovers.

 

If you want to argue that it's not technically a spin off, the main reason would be because it wasn't supposed to be, it was supposed to be a replacement for Family guy which had been canceled.

 

Yeah not a lot of people know that they were never supposed to be going at the same time. McFarlane got stretched way to thin. I don't even think he writes for either show anymore.

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Trending stayed awesome this week as well:

 

http://toonamifaithful.com/toonami-trending-rundown-for-march-4-5-2017/

 

I have confirmed this is the 5th straight streak of #1's in U.S. Trending for every Toonami show, and all shows also reached either #8 or #9 worldwide!

 

Samurai Jack also made it to #5 outside Toonami, but didn't trend worldwide, and no character trends.

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They used to run a yearly "Have it You way" promo where the winner got to program Adult Swim forthe night

 

Pretty much this.  Burger King used to run the "Have It Your Way" promotion with Adult swim.  The winner prgrammed Adult Swim for the night.  Some schedules didn't have any anime, one of them was entirely anime, and the rest of them were mixed between comedy and anime.  In 2009, the promotion ran on a Friday night, and the winner picked an episode of Bleach to air, so it became the last time anime aired on weeknights. 

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I'd be all for moving One Piece and Naruto to weeknights, that way their slow pacing wouldn't be an issue.

 

That would only work assuming they can get multiple airings of each a show a week, otherwise it will be just the same pace on a different night. 

 

If they could swing it, though, I'd enjoy it.  Get through Shippuden and One Piece quicker, and free up Toonami for some shorter shows.

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Yeah not a lot of people know that they were never supposed to be going at the same time. McFarlane got stretched way to thin. I don't even think he writes for either show anymore.

 

Remember when one time, Bleach got such good ratings that AS aired 2 new episodes every week??  Boy did that not last long!

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Same creators, studio, same plot lines recycled between the 3 shows, same universe, same time line, same voice actors, and crossovers.

 

If you want to argue that it's not technically a spin off, the main reason would be because it wasn't supposed to be, it was supposed to be a replacement for Family guy which had been canceled.

 

I guess Family Guy characters did make cameos in a few American Dad episodes, and vice versa, but it depends on if you legit consider cameo appearances to count as being in the same universe.

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Yeah, I remember that!  That was back in the days when we would get a lot of Bleach and MAYBE one other new show. Had Toonami not returned, Bleach probably would have closed the book on anime for Adult Swim.

 

Boy that was a stressful Spring 2012! -_-  The Bleach anime was ending in Japan, my service dropped the Funimation Channel, I had one of my tantrums on the AS message boards, Bleach was the last remaining premiere on ASA.  I can't even dwell on it.

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Boy that was a stressful Spring 2012! -_-  The Bleach anime was ending in Japan, my service dropped the Funimation Channel, I had one of my tantrums on the AS message boards, Bleach was the last remaining premiere on ASA.  I can't even dwell on it.

 

The funimation channel ended up  getting changed to TOKU last year.... which plays horrible anime and live action movies non stop. No funi shows. Sucks because I actually liked it.

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And we all bounced back! Anime on AS has come a long way since those dark times. We were lucky to get 2 premieres a year (one of them being Bleach). We are in much better shape. I almost feel like if Toonami went to AS in 08 instead of being straight up cancelled everyone would have been much better off!

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The funimation channel ended up  getting changed to TOKU last year.... which plays horrible anime and live action movies non stop. No funi shows. Sucks because I actually liked it.

 

In other words, TOKU really translates into "f*** it linear channels are dead let's hand it off to another company and phrase it in more sensationalistic terms in the press releases".  Got it.  Good that I didn't seek TOKU out.

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And we all bounced back! Anime on AS has come a long way since those dark times. We were lucky to get 2 premieres a year (one of them being Bleach). We are in much better shape. I almost feel like if Toonami went to AS in 08 instead of being straight up cancelled everyone would have been much better off!

 

But nooooo.  AS just HAD to plant ATHF signs on areas of Boston without telling Boston police first to get warrants, resulting in a bomb scare that forced the CEO of CN to step down.

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The funimation channel ended up  getting changed to TOKU last year.... which plays horrible anime and live action movies non stop. No funi shows. Sucks because I actually liked it.

 

Oh Jesus, is that what Toku is?  I knew that Toku replaced Funimation Channel when it ended, but I didn't know that it was shit.

 

It's really sad, too, because I used to get the Funimation Channel when I was subscribed to Fios back about 6 years ago.  I absolutely loved that channel, and it got me back into anime after a time of thinking I was too cool for it (I wasn't.  I'm not cool).  I'm sad to see it relegated to this.

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Oh Jesus, is that what Toku is?  I knew that Toku replaced Funimation Channel when it ended, but I didn't know that it was shit.

 

It's really sad, too, because I used to get the Funimation Channel when I was subscribed to Fios back about 6 years ago.  I absolutely loved that channel, and it got me back into anime after a time of thinking I was too cool for it (I wasn't.  I'm not cool).  I'm sad to see it relegated to this.

 

Yeah I canceled TOKU pretty fast. Its entire lineup is defunct media blasters garbage. Even Toonami wouldn't touch anything on their lineup with a 10 foot pole.

 

"On December 8, 2015, it was reported that the channel would change its name to Toku on Thursday, December 31, 2015 and "will add more variety including highly-rated Asian movies in the Live Action, Grindhouse and Independent genres."[20][21] It was subsequently announced, on December 15, 2015, that Funimation would end its partnership with Olympusat and relaunch Funimation Channel sometime in 2016.[22]

 

Toku's programming comes from Media Blasters and other anime and movie licensors."

 

Right now TOKU is  marathoning a show called princess princess.  And that's the other thing, they marathon everything  instead of showing one ep a week like funimation did.

 

They also show gay  and incest anime.

 

But yes the Funimation channel was supposed to relaunch in 2016.... but.... nothing. I think they just said screw it and are sticking with their website.

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One year Funimation tried to gain more exposure to their Channel by having an NYCC panel JUST to talk about that, not to announce Funimation's news or new show acquisitions.  I guess that failed. :(  For one, it wasn't hosted by either Justin Rojas, Laura Moore, or Chad from Screwattack, and the panel was relegated to a small room.

 

... which is what you'd expect would happen if you try to plug a linear cable channel in 2017 when young people already abandoned cable since 2006!!

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It's complicated but Olympusat actually ran the channel, and ran it really poorly so I think Funimation's idea was to tell them to F off, and then launch their own channel  that they actually had control of.

 

But they forgot the part where they actually launch a new channel.

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