jackiemarie90 Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 (edited) It sucks that society rather just play mob mentality and believe what they want. People just don't want to come with terms for the horrible beliefs they might have, then they turn to their cliques for comfort, searching for reasons why they don't have to change. I don't blame it on political climate either, people have been isolating themselves online for awhile, subscribing to their own news pages that agree with their ego. I just hope society can figure it's way back from the bubbles they have created. Edited February 19, 2018 by jackiemarie90 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginguy Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 Awesome YT vid on this subject. Long, but Tim Poole has impressed me with his general objectivity. BTW, this will not change as long as there is political (power) advantage to be gained from it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bnmjy Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 There is only one solution: we let the robots take over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackiemarie90 Posted February 19, 2018 Author Share Posted February 19, 2018 1 minute ago, Ginguy said: Awesome YT vid on this subject. Long, but Tim Poole has impressed me with his general objectivity. BTW, this will not change as long as there is political (power) advantage to be gained from it. A right wing friend tried to get me to watch him, I don't buy that he is completely unbiased, he likes to generalize real quick and makes demonizations quickly from it. Also vary wary of youtube journalists. I kinda just read of ton of news articles from both the right and left and see social media on both ends. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackiemarie90 Posted February 19, 2018 Author Share Posted February 19, 2018 3 minutes ago, bnmjy said: There is only one solution: we let the robots take over. You know, I'm all fighting for the gov and all that. But it seems the most people who make sense these days are anarchists, and I did not expect that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunkenwarrior Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 I just wanna know what twinkies are made of man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nameraka Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 i recently deactivated my fb account for this reason. got tired of being inundated with peoples stupid unfounded nonsense beliefs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
André Toulon Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 Know how you change people's ideals? Force. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IKMongo Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 People dont like truths. They say they do, until the truth finally hits them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clu Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 I was hoping for a killer brownie recipe in here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwimModSponges Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 17 hours ago, Ginguy said: Awesome YT vid on this subject. Long, but Tim Poole has impressed me with his general objectivity. BTW, this will not change as long as there is political (power) advantage to be gained from it. Trust @Ginguy, he knows a lot about objective truths; like that Nunes memo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KreiaDidNothingWrong Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 (edited) 20 hours ago, jackiemarie90 said: You know, I'm all fighting for the gov and all that. But it seems the most people who make sense these days are anarchists, and I did not expect that. I rec reading Max Stirner, Emma Goldman, Kropotkin, and reading about both Cyber Nihilism and Democratic Confederalism. -me, the token board anarchist Maybe Lucy Parsons too but I haven't read much about her yet Edited February 19, 2018 by KreiaDidNothingWrong 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quebecelegy Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 (edited) we have been living in a post-democracy country since the 1960's. stay woke. i stay fapping to instagram thots to ease this pain. and i recommend all of you to do the same. Edited February 20, 2018 by quebecelegy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackiemarie90 Posted February 20, 2018 Author Share Posted February 20, 2018 On 2/18/2018 at 7:41 PM, Drunkenwarrior said: I just wanna know what twinkies are made of man Sponge cake and cream. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackiemarie90 Posted February 20, 2018 Author Share Posted February 20, 2018 On 2/18/2018 at 7:49 PM, nameraka said: i recently deactivated my fb account for this reason. got tired of being inundated with peoples stupid unfounded nonsense beliefs. Mines was depressing me, I felt so isolated but idk, the school semester is in swing, helps me concentrate on that more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackiemarie90 Posted February 20, 2018 Author Share Posted February 20, 2018 17 hours ago, Noboru Yamaguchi said: Know how you change people's ideals? Force. What about Shame, humanizing the cause and getting people to realized the the people behind the story. Also to get people to realize that instagram is NOT a viable source of news, or memes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackiemarie90 Posted February 20, 2018 Author Share Posted February 20, 2018 12 hours ago, IKMongo said: People dont like truths. They say they do, until the truth finally hits them. Its sad people can't get out of their own heads and empathize with others. I wish people saw the selfishness of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackiemarie90 Posted February 20, 2018 Author Share Posted February 20, 2018 12 hours ago, Clu said: I was hoping for a killer brownie recipe in here. https://www.thrillist.com/recipe/nation/best-pot-brownie-recipe-thrillist-recipes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clu Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 I don't have almost all of these ingredients Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackiemarie90 Posted February 20, 2018 Author Share Posted February 20, 2018 6 hours ago, KreiaDidNothingWrong said: I rec reading Max Stirner, Emma Goldman, Kropotkin, and reading about both Cyber Nihilism and Democratic Confederalism. -me, the token board anarchist Maybe Lucy Parsons too but I haven't read much about her yet I was reading about some female anarchists in my Women's history class during the Industrial revolution. It's one of my favorite eras because several workers were interested in socialism but the government took extreme steps to squash union efforts, the sedition acts, even killed leaders. Reading anarchists view points start to make sense when dealing with an oppressive government. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackiemarie90 Posted February 20, 2018 Author Share Posted February 20, 2018 4 hours ago, quebecelegy said: we have been living in a post-democracy country since the 1960's. stay woke. i stay fapping to instagram thots to ease this pain. and i recommend all of you to do the same. I think fapping to instagam thots might change your expectations of women later. But I agree with the first sentiment. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackiemarie90 Posted February 20, 2018 Author Share Posted February 20, 2018 5 minutes ago, Clu said: I don't have almost all of these ingredients Well you said a killer recipe, unless you meant literally. They buy brownie mix and add bleach? Please don't do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KreiaDidNothingWrong Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 5 minutes ago, jackiemarie90 said: I was reading about some female anarchists in my Women's history class during the Industrial revolution. It's one of my favorite eras because several workers were interested in socialism but the government took extreme steps to squash union efforts, the sedition acts, even killed leaders. Reading anarchists view points start to make sense when dealing with an oppressive government. Emma Goldman was around pre-First Red Scare in the early 1900s and got swept up in something called the Anarchist Exclusion Act. Essentially that was more or less when Socialism and Anarchism stopped gaining much real traction in the US 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackiemarie90 Posted February 20, 2018 Author Share Posted February 20, 2018 2 minutes ago, KreiaDidNothingWrong said: Emma Goldman was around pre-First Red Scare in the early 1900s and got swept up in something called the Anarchist Exclusion Act. Essentially that was more or less when Socialism and Anarchism stopped gaining much real traction in the US I really wish people studied this era more. I feel it shows what corporations real intentions are, and how the government has denied free of speech and human rights in hopes no one challenges the government. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
André Toulon Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 1 hour ago, jackiemarie90 said: What about Shame, humanizing the cause and getting people to realized the the people behind the story. Also to get people to realize that instagram is NOT a viable source of news, or memes. good luck with that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunkenwarrior Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 8 hours ago, jackiemarie90 said: Sponge cake and cream. That can survive nuclear holocaust? I don't think so missy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lupin_bebop Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 (edited) On 2/18/2018 at 8:44 PM, Ginguy said: Awesome YT vid on this subject. Long, but Tim Poole has impressed me with his general objectivity. BTW, this will not change as long as there is political (power) advantage to be gained from it. Not a fan of Tim Poole. He make too many generalizations, and demonizations from too little evidence. He also doesn't really take input at all. He's not as objective as you think. His "objective" is via the "white man's objective" lens, instead of a real objective lens. I prefer a Philip DeFranco over him, because he has conversations with his audience. He give you what he thinks, and gives evidence to prove his point, and responds to his followers in kind, actually giving them a chance to respond (at least on his website outside of YouTube). He has also been known to retract statements he's made in light of evidence against him. I consider him more objective than most YouTube news/reporting channels out there. Edited February 21, 2018 by lupin_bebop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginguy Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 1 hour ago, lupin_bebop said: Not a fan of Tim Poole. He make too many generalizations, and demonizations from too little evidence. He also doesn't really take input at all. He's not as objective as you think. His "objective" is via the "white man's objective" lens, instead of a real objective lens. I prefer a Philip DeFranco over him, because he has conversations with his audience. He give you what he thinks, and gives evidence to prove his point, and responds to his followers in kind, actually giving them a chance to respond (at least on his website outside of YouTube). He has also been known to retract statements he's made in light of evidence against him. I consider him more objective than most YouTube news/reporting channels out there. Thanks for the heads-up. I checked out a couple of his vids, he seems like a pretty straight shooter as well. It is kind of a sad statement on the current state of affairs that people have to go to YT and Patreon to get anything remotely resembling fact when it comes to news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuggnificent Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 truth now makes most americans feel inferior or obligated or guilty. welcome to the idiocracy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neko Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 Truth isn't always a kitten wrapped in a bow, it isn't always shitty either. People like comforts. Some people's comforts and levels aren't others. You know generalizations are just that, generalizations. Just do you and not be a dick and you should be alright. Things tie together. Pick a side, pick a view and work it out the best way you can. Don't sell yourself short and shit man wing it. I'm in a shituation right now that is foreign to me. Hurt me to my core, but I still laugh every once in a while even if I feel shitty or had shitty thngs done to me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lupin_bebop Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 Yeah. Philip DeFranco is very moderate. Which is part of the reason I keep getting news results from him. Looking into stories, I look at 3 lenses: Daily Show for left-leaning view Philip DeFranco for moderate and fact based Fox News to get the view points from people who are NOT living on this planet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lupin_bebop Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 (edited) On 2/20/2018 at 12:00 AM, jackiemarie90 said: What about Shame, humanizing the cause and getting people to realized the the people behind the story. Also to get people to realize that instagram is NOT a viable source of news, or memes. Nope. Shaming doesn’t work. Neither does humanizing. Especially if that person is conservative or Republican. The Roght doesn’t see us as humans. We are objects. If you are not rich, White, Anglo-Saxon Protestant or the like, you don’t exist. Period. Edited February 22, 2018 by lupin_bebop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Distortedreasoning Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 its a crazy times we live in but i truly believe do get caught up by the media. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackiemarie90 Posted February 22, 2018 Author Share Posted February 22, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, lupin_bebop said: Nope. Shaming doesn’t work. Neither does humanizing. Especially if that person is conservative or Republican. The Roght doesn’t see us as humans. We are objects. If you are not rich, White, Anglo-Saxon Protestant or the like, you don’t exist. Period. See you think that would work, but keep forgetting that the LEFT has a bunch of BIASES too. I see it all the time, I see leftists talk about how stupid rednecks who perform incest and are completely ignorant. I think humans shouldn't hold biases like that. There are a lot of states with terrible education censoring. I saw an Arizona book that said the "the Indians just left for the white settlers to they could move in". That is all kinds of l fucked up but of course you got all these agenda pushers decided the education for the people. Progress can be changing educational opportunities perhaps a nation standard not on grades, but the type of material we teach. We should be harrassing our congress members and leaders. I love the protests going on. Historically in the U.S. it takes a long period of years of protest to get things done. If you want to berate someone, make it your senator. Also a glimmer of hope, we recieved more new voters every few years that tend to lead towards progress, and I hear we actually have a bigger population than baby boomers now. The problem is our generation is fucking cynical, they take the easy way and make excuses why not to vote. If you don't like gerrymandering, or even the electoral college, start voting for the right people to get bills passed to get rid of the policies it is possible. There was an alcohol ban that become a constitution amendment, and of course, it was eventually over turn. You can make changes to your government but it requires work, things people don't like. Edited February 22, 2018 by jackiemarie90 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackiemarie90 Posted February 22, 2018 Author Share Posted February 22, 2018 On 2/20/2018 at 5:58 PM, fuggnificent said: truth now makes most americans feel inferior or obligated or guilty. welcome to the idiocracy. Well considering my last PM, I see people feel easily attacked when you try to tell people the truth. I'm really hoping we have better education for the future, and the young voters show up to the polls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackiemarie90 Posted February 22, 2018 Author Share Posted February 22, 2018 2 hours ago, Distortedreasoning said: its a crazy times we live in but i truly believe do get caught up by the media. The media pisses me off because they are asking the most stupidest questions. They will tell you an emotional story, and literally ask, he what do you think about this? And the jerks put their dumb comments and feel empowered by the likes they get. But not many are telling objective stories and giving facts. But attacking journalists is worst, it limits freedom of speech way more, a free press is eventually helpful for our society. But now you got these stupid "blogs" that pretend to be news sources and people just google the argument they believe is right and use that as validation. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juice McKenzie Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 I believe whatever is proven to be true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackiemarie90 Posted February 22, 2018 Author Share Posted February 22, 2018 2 minutes ago, Saiyanman said: I believe whatever is proven to be true. But is the data peer reviewed? I hear a lot of archaeologists these days they are sending in not reviewed work just because they want to be the first to discover something. It can also create a lot of inaccuracies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Distortedreasoning Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 8 hours ago, jackiemarie90 said: The media pisses me off because they are asking the most stupidest questions. They will tell you an emotional story, and literally ask, he what do you think about this? And the jerks put their dumb comments and feel empowered by the likes they get. But not many are telling objective stories and giving facts. But attacking journalists is worst, it limits freedom of speech way more, a free press is eventually helpful for our society. But now you got these stupid "blogs" that pretend to be news sources and people just google the argument they believe is right and use that as validation. the media as a whole is just one big propaganda machine, in its current stage just made to confuse the masses. they always sensationalize everything and dont even ask any of the right questions or even have the right type of discussions. as if they are meant to keep us from revolting against the ruling class. if you want good news coverage i would suggest independent news outlets like b.a.r or counterpunch. the problem with the "free press" usually is the ownership with most of these news outlets. they are all owned by big corporation that really try to push an agenda that doesnt help out the rest of society. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwimModSponges Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 I like NPR; they provide factual information about world events. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lupin_bebop Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 15 hours ago, jackiemarie90 said: See you think that would work, but keep forgetting that the LEFT has a bunch of BIASES too. This is where you should’ve stopped. You weren’t saying anything else after that. You haven’t been saying anything this entire time until here. You’ve been doing nothing but spewing random talking points. People are going to have some bias. It cannot be avoided. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackiemarie90 Posted February 23, 2018 Author Share Posted February 23, 2018 4 hours ago, lupin_bebop said: This is where you should’ve stopped. You weren’t saying anything else after that. You haven’t been saying anything this entire time until here. You’ve been doing nothing but spewing random talking points. People are going to have some bias. It cannot be avoided. in your opinion, I get A's in my writing. But you just want to shut me down. And thats what everyone wants to do. So do what you do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lupin_bebop Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 Shutting you down would be telling you to get back in the kitchen and make sandwiches and the like. I was trying to keep your apology brief, sharp, and pointed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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