Vamped Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 1 minute ago, Poof said: Really any uploaded immortal mind would be like a copy. You’d probably need to keep the brain alive in a jar or something to have an immortal matrix thing going on. unless we learn something major about consciousness/the soul/essence/mojo that contradicts what I just said So I feel like that whole thing about uploading old people into a collective old/dead people cloud thing is a waste of time because the real "you" isn't even enjoying it. Unless its to benefit the people you leave behind. Like in that "BRB" episode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poof Posted January 2, 2018 Author Share Posted January 2, 2018 12 minutes ago, Vamped said: So I feel like that whole thing about uploading old people into a collective old/dead people cloud thing is a waste of time because the real "you" isn't even enjoying it. Unless its to benefit the people you leave behind. Like in that "BRB" episode. Pretty much. It’d have to be more like the nursing home planet in futurama. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAC Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 I'm ready for GITS type bodies and interfaces. Being born with a ton of physical problems, I'm ready to ditch this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juice McKenzie Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 15 hours ago, Poof said: So do you think it’s happening too fast? Or is the densensitization something else? For the most part, yes. I mean these days, when you go and get the latest device technology has to offer a couple of years later they reveal one that makes yours obsolete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapinator_X Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Poof said: And everyone was like “Hey here’s more of my money. Would you like some of my data too? Wanna know where I live cuz I’m fine with that.” And from there, they were like, "Hey guys, LOVING the data! This'll help us stop the terrorists. Say, you wouldn't mind if we tied everything you do to ONE ACCOUNT? That way, you can give us your information while you take a shit outside your home, while you play app games, and while you're sleeping". And the public rejoiced. And then they were saying, "Dudes, these smart phones are great and all, but what if we compromise your identity THROUGH YOUR PHONES? We'll throw in face/fingerprint reading technology, AND, while we're at it, make you pay extra for expensive specialty headphone jacks that our underpaid labor in China handcrafts for us! Great deal, huh?" And the public gave an astounding "Yes!" Edited January 2, 2018 by imchapp.in 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandstone Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 I'm waiting for the invention of the artificially intelligent robo-penis still. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lupin_bebop Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 On 1/2/2018 at 12:08 AM, Poof said: I do... you don’t. I’m sorry. As someone who edits audio and video, yeah, I'd say I do. And real sex dolls is where my line for the uncanny valley is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Hound Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 On 1/1/2018 at 10:41 PM, Poof said: Good? Bad? Any thoughts? I want more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Hound Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 On 1/2/2018 at 3:16 PM, CAC said: I'm ready for GITS type bodies and interfaces. Being born with a ton of physical problems, I'm ready to ditch this one. I support this. Though I feel the tech is already here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilosipherStoned Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 Intelligent sex dolls are the least of our concern when it comes to AI's gaining control. If I owned one it'd just give me an excuse to beat my wife if the programming went haywire. I could test a few improvised weapons and win/win..That is unless those dolls start coming equipped with machine gun nipples like on Austin Powers.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilosipherStoned Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 Meh I like my body. We do nice things together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAC Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 3 minutes ago, The Hound said: I support this. Though I feel the tech is already here. Well gimmy then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lupin_bebop Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 On 1/2/2018 at 12:38 AM, Bouvre said: I see graphs like this for uncanny valley all the time and wonder what lies beyond human likeness -- how the graph might continue past "healthy person" also slightly weirded out by "healthy" Is an unhealthy person less human? But I'm also curious about the bunraku puppet, how a directly-human-controlled figure comes closer to human likeness than an android, which ideally displays autonomy and ideally passes the Turing test. "Healthy person" is a spectrum, which is why you see it continue past it a little bit. If it passes the Turing Test.....then it's human. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poof Posted January 4, 2018 Author Share Posted January 4, 2018 1 hour ago, lupin_bebop said: As someone who edits audio and video, yeah, I'd say I do. And real sex dolls is where my line for the uncanny valley is. When a robot is passable enough that it’s not creepy anymore, it will fall on the other side of the valley in the chart. What issue do you have with that statement? I honestly don’t get what you have a problem with? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bouvre Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 14 hours ago, lupin_bebop said: "Healthy person" is a spectrum, which is why you see it continue past it a little bit. If it passes the Turing Test.....then it's human. If AI can pass the Turing Test, it qualifies as human? I mean, I'm all for granting something with that level of sentience a pass at being a person, but what a strange thing that would do for so many things, species classification included. That also likely severely redraws the parameters of the uncanny valley graph. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueraven1999 Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 I'm okay with it being around but I don't use it or own it. I still use cds, a flip phone, dvd/vhs player, and a vhs player. I have a 2011 Apple computer which still works great. Better than any Windows computer that I ever owned and it hasn't gotten viruses like they did. Have never owned a tablet or really wanted one. I'd basically only want a smart phone for video games, but I'm still happy with my Nintendo 3DS so I'm going to wait awhile on that. Plus the new smart phones are expensive and I'm pretty cheap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lupin_bebop Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 12 hours ago, Bouvre said: If AI can pass the Turing Test, it qualifies as human? I mean, I'm all for granting something with that level of sentience a pass at being a person, but what a strange thing that would do for so many things, species classification included. That also likely severely redraws the parameters of the uncanny valley graph. The thing is, once we see something as sentient, we no longer see it as just a robot, but as a creature. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bouvre Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 2 hours ago, lupin_bebop said: The thing is, once we see something as sentient, we no longer see it as just a robot, but as a creature. That's fair, but if it passes the Turing test, is it a creature or is it human? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lupin_bebop Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 1 hour ago, Bouvre said: That's fair, but if it passes the Turing test, is it a creature or is it human? I say Creature. It's up to science to say otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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