naraku360 Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 and sad that I have to give up the gamegrumps now I never really "got" the appeal of Gamegrumps. Like, it seemed like everyone stopped giving a fuck after JonTron left, but even with JonTron I couldn't follow most of the conversations since it was mostly people screaming over each other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mochi Posted July 22, 2017 Author Share Posted July 22, 2017 I never really "got" the appeal of Gamegrumps. Like, it seemed like everyone stopped giving a fuck after JonTron left, but even with JonTron I couldn't follow most of the conversations since it was mostly people screaming over each other. I actually thought Danny was better than Jon, but I see they're trolly a-holes now, so...I'm gonna watch Oneyplays from now on, they're similar, except I am faaaiiirly sure they aren't a bunch of homophobes since one of them is actually gay pretty sure they film in the same building too (and Ding Dong, one of their members was actually trying to warn people that he felt that this game was Homophobic leading up to it's release) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwimModSponges Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 You know who I like? The Gaming Beaver. Gaming. Dinosaurs. Britishness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwimModSponges Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 what do you mean "you people?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pail Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 Something really fucked up is wrong with this game people found dummied out content in the game via datamining that shows that all the dads get together and murder you as part of a cult in one of the games endings (apparently in Joseph's inaccessible good ending) I'm not fucking kidding It's just a game mochi. Try not to get too worked up over it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DragonSinger Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 Ignoring the definition bullshit, there's a funny thing that I noticed. I've been checking the gender of players tweeting about the game and it was mainly only women at first. Once the cult story was revealed, a shit load of dudes popped up saying that they want to play it now. Dating Sim gamers are also laughing in the dreamdaddy tag in a 'Oh you sweet summer child' way. Evidently, fucked up secret endings are a thing, and they keep bringing up Hatoful Boyfriend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThisIdiot Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 hatoful....is that the one about the birds or something? I tend to avoid youtube vids about dating sims unless it's retarded ...like dinosaurs or birds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapinator_X Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 I guess they wanted it to be like Hatoful with a novel concept and a creepy underlying backstory, but the Grumps have neither the wit nor the originality to pull it off. Hatoful was great because of the bait and switch of playing a stupid dating sim with birds and watching the ridiculousness of it all unfold normally, but then get you with the darker elements as you go through several of the routes. A good example is the teacher, who looks like a fat derpy bird and plays the Nutcracker suite whenever he arrives. At first, it's just random goofy shit that shouldn't be as funny as it is. Then, it starts to get creepy as it starts to build up towards his demented behavior. It's shocking, but never forgets that it's still the same game where a cross dressing cafe has a waitress' portrait show up as a pidgeon with a maid outfit. With Dream Daddy, I guess they wanted to creep out people that want to fuck the dads. The only thing that'd clue you in to anything that isn't yet another generic bara VN that other Tumblr game makers are pushing is that it's written by the Grumps, but that does nothing to make the game look any less generic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mochi Posted July 22, 2017 Author Share Posted July 22, 2017 Ignoring the definition bullshit, there's a funny thing that I noticed. I've been checking the gender of players tweeting about the game and it was mainly only women at first. Once the cult story was revealed, a shit load of dudes popped up saying that they want to play it now. Dating Sim gamers are also laughing in the dreamdaddy tag in a 'Oh you sweet summer child' way. Evidently, fucked up secret endings are a thing, and they keep bringing up Hatoful Boyfriend. I've seen just as many gay men who like me, are disgusted with the game though a large majority seem to think being killed by a satanic priest is sexy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mochi Posted July 22, 2017 Author Share Posted July 22, 2017 I guess they wanted it to be like Hatoful with a novel concept and a creepy underlying backstory, but the Grumps have neither the wit nor the originality to pull it off. Hatoful was great because of the bait and switch of playing a stupid dating sim with birds and watching the ridiculousness of it all unfold normally, but then get you with the darker elements as you go through several of the routes. A good example is the teacher, who looks like a fat derpy bird and plays the Nutcracker suite whenever he arrives. At first, it's just random goofy shit that shouldn't be as funny as it is. Then, it starts to get creepy as it starts to build up towards his demented behavior. It's shocking, but never forgets that it's still the same game where a cross dressing cafe has a waitress' portrait show up as a pidgeon with a maid outfit. With Dream Daddy, I guess they wanted to creep out people that want to fuck the dads. The only thing that'd clue you in to anything that isn't yet another generic bara VN that other Tumblr game makers are pushing is that it's written by the Grumps, but that does nothing to make the game look any less generic. I'm just generally pissed off that there aren't as many people pissed off about this ending as there should be Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilosipherStoned Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 What the fuck are you even trying to say here. You can break the word down into it;s roots with a 5th grade education and see that it was never intended to be used in that context.. Phobia from the greek word Phobos literally meaning fear so..irrational fear DOES have to be included for the word to really make any logical since. That's like me saying I have arachnophobia, but I'm not afraid of spiders, I just think they have no business in this country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DragonSinger Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 I've seen just as many gay men who like me, are disgusted with the game though a large majority seem to think being killed by a satanic priest is sexy There are good arguments from both sides, but the cult scene still hasn't proven to be a playable route yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwimModSponges Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 Hydrophobic materials aren't afraid of water nor do they not want water in their country. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrophobe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mochi Posted July 23, 2017 Author Share Posted July 23, 2017 There are good arguments from both sides, but the cult scene still hasn't proven to be a playable route yet. someone on steam unlocked it, but it's since been proven that he hacked it someone going through the files discovered that there is no scene trigger in that ending's files, meaning it's either a last minuet removal, or was something they meant as DLC obviously the guy who found the scene hacked a scene trigger into that ending's files at this point my main hope is that that...disgusting ending isn't the only DLC they have planned and that they release some more fleshed out endings for each of the guys and maybe an alternate ending for Joseph where he doesn't reveal that he murdred all the dad's wives then fucked them in an attempt to open a portal to hell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mochi Posted July 23, 2017 Author Share Posted July 23, 2017 not sure if this makes me feel any better, but the fans of the ending are currently pissed off, because their meddling has lead them to belive that this ending is not accessible in any form, and may not have actually ever been meant to be played it may very well only be in the game as a punishment for hacking, or at least some people have come to that conclusion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mochi Posted July 23, 2017 Author Share Posted July 23, 2017 the dev Team has now spoken out and confirmed several things about the cult ending 1. it was originally planned as a Halloween DLC 2. it is not canon 3. they removed it and never plan to release it 4. the only way to access the files is via datamining, you cannot play the ending (nobody knows how that one guy got the achievement for it) that said, tons of lines and artistic cues in the Canon gameplay reference the cult ending so I'm thinking the end WAS canon at some point, but in response to the backlash, they've decided to ditch the ending completely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1pooh4u Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 Have you played the game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mochi Posted July 23, 2017 Author Share Posted July 23, 2017 I've watched lets plays I had intended to play it once I found out it had some canonically Trans and Gay dads (previously I'd been told all the dad's seemed Bi) then I found out that it's (at the time seemingly) True ending involved revealing that the closeted christian dad was a satanic cultist who was killing all the dad's wives and then fucking their husbands to try and open a portal to hell so I'm not playing it even if the devs do now retroactively claim that the cult ending is non Canon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naraku360 Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 You can break the word down into it;s roots with a 5th grade education and see that it was never intended to be used in that context.. Phobia from the greek word Phobos literally meaning fear so..irrational fear DOES have to be included for the word to really make any logical since. That's like me saying I have arachnophobia, but I'm not afraid of spiders, I just think they have no business in this country. Why are you still arguing this? If you break down the root words, it still doesn't mean "irrational fear of homosexuals". It would mean something else, but you're only looking at the root word of "phobia" while ignoring the root word "homo". And no, "phobia" is not exclusive to fear. The definition includes "aversion to". You can have an extreme or irrational aversion to something, but not afraid of it, and still be phobic to it. All you're doing is drawing a pointless line in the sand at the wrong place in order to drag out a meaningless argument you have no footing in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1pooh4u Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 I've watched lets plays I had intended to play it once I found out it had some canonically Trans and Gay dads (previously I'd been told all the dad's seemed Bi) then I found out that it's (at the time seemingly) True ending involved revealing that the closeted christian dad was a satanic cultist who was killing all the dad's wives and then fucking their husbands to try and open a portal to hell so I'm not playing it even if the devs do now retroactively claim that the cult ending is non Canon This game sounds like a big fuck you, don't you think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mochi Posted July 23, 2017 Author Share Posted July 23, 2017 This game sounds like a big fuck you, don't you think? exactly it's like the kind of thing I'd expect an anti-sjw to make in an attempt to "trigger" people (which is exactly what ended up happening) promising a "wholesome" game full of gay and trans representation where you get to play as a widowed gay father deciding to "get back out there" and meet someone new thanks to the encouragement of his daughter then springs a satanic cult ending on you comparing gay men to demons out of nowhere only silver lining is that someone on the dev team held back the release to destroy that ending and now asserts that it is not canon anymore Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mochi Posted July 23, 2017 Author Share Posted July 23, 2017 there's some other oddities implying that the cult ending was ingrained into the game more deeply than the team member who says it's non-canon says such as the fact that all the dads can kill you if you fuck up badly enough on their routes (it was initially believed only Brian would kill you but they can apparently ALL kill you) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1pooh4u Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 exactly it's like the kind of thing I'd expect an anti-sjw to make in an attempt to "trigger" people (which is exactly what ended up happening) promising a "wholesome" game full of gay and trans representation where you get to play as a widowed gay father deciding to "get back out there" and meet someone new thanks to the encouragement of his daughter then springs a satanic cult ending on you comparing gay men to demons out of nowhere only silver lining is that someone on the dev team held back the release to destroy that ending and now asserts that it is not canon anymore Yeah but once something is out there it kinda kills it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mochi Posted July 24, 2017 Author Share Posted July 24, 2017 Yeah but once something is out there it kinda kills it. the game IS basically circling the grave at this point since it's fanbase automatically became toxic and everyone is pirating the game now because they're too guilty to give the dev team any money Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1pooh4u Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 the game IS basically circling the grave at this point since it's fanbase automatically became toxic and everyone is pirating the game now because they're too guilty to give the dev team any money You should pirate it too. Don't play it if you don't wanna, just steal it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mochi Posted July 24, 2017 Author Share Posted July 24, 2017 You should pirate it too. Don't play it if you don't wanna, just steal it. makes more sense to just not play it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mochi Posted July 24, 2017 Author Share Posted July 24, 2017 the cult ending may have been cut earlier in development than originally thought as two of the games routes directly contradict it unlike all the others that hint at it the cult ending's transcript mentions that Joseph murdered all of the dad's wives, but there's a problem there one of the dads, Hugo, did not have an ex-wife...he had an ex-husband, and his ex-husband is still alive with joint custody of their son (He is the "fun weekend dad") and in Craig's route he specifically mentions several times that his ex-wife Ashley ("Smashley") is still alive so it's possible the cult ending was cut at the same point in development that the rumors that every dad was cis & bi (Including the player character)originated from, because the cult ending's transcript makes it sound as if the cult ending operates on the idea that every single dad was once married to a now deceased woman its possible the throw-away line confirming Damien as a Trans man was also added after the cult ending was cut, as it's literally the only time Damien being trans is ever mentioned (he mentions he has trouble choosing the right binders to go with his goth aesthetic) never mind, the cult ending specifically mentions he caused the divorces too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satou Kazuma Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 And yet this game has a positive rating and rave reviews. http://store.steampowered.com/app/654880/Dream_Daddy_A_Dad_Dating_Simulator/ All I'm seeing is that you're finding fault for something that isn't there. While you're claiming that it's anti-sjw but all you have to back up your claim is Tumblr, random youtubers and obscure bloggers that no one ever heard of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mochi Posted July 25, 2017 Author Share Posted July 25, 2017 And yet this game has a positive rating and rave reviews. http://store.steampowered.com/app/654880/Dream_Daddy_A_Dad_Dating_Simulator/ All I'm seeing is that you're finding fault for something that isn't there. While you're claiming that it's anti-sjw but all you have to back up your claim is Tumblr, random youtubers and obscure bloggers that no one ever heard of. the reviews are mixed even if the rating is "very positive" and most people I've spoken to either say "they love it but it's too short and all the endings are really anti-climatic" or are mad that the cult ending is a thing from what I hear you never really get to be with one of the dads, their routes just end abruptly on a cliff-hanger after the third date with a vuage hint that they might someday consider starting a relationship with you at some point in the future a few people used the words "expanded demo" it seems like the game is a "base" that they intend to add more DLC to down the line to make it more complete also they released the game only 1 month after announcing it also, bad things often have good reviews and big fan followings look at Sword art Online S: also, from what I've heard a lot of people who bought dream daddy are demanding refunds due to how short and anti-climatic the game is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mochi Posted July 29, 2017 Author Share Posted July 29, 2017 I just had a funny probably wrong, theory about the cult ending what if it was something Jared, Arin, and the game's artists hid in the game without the other dev team members knowing, and on release day they saw it in there were like "the fuck is this?" then looked at it and were like "HELL NO!" and pulled the release to get it out of there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mochi Posted July 30, 2017 Author Share Posted July 30, 2017 it's now official that the cult ending IS canon as a patch released today added more content to it, meaning for all in tense and purposes it is now playable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satou Kazuma Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 It's only canon because Tumblr bitches complained about the secret ending that was scrapped. Whole point of the game was a parody of dating sim. So fuck off with the "woe is me" because they made a game and you didn't like it because you couldn't get to sleep with all the Dad's. http://steamed.kotaku.com/dream-daddy-creators-explain-why-you-can-t-smooch-all-t-1797354455 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mochi Posted July 31, 2017 Author Share Posted July 31, 2017 It's only canon because Tumblr bitches complained about the secret ending that was scrapped. Whole point of the game was a parody of dating sim. So fuck off with the "woe is me" because they made a game and you didn't like it because you couldn't get to sleep with all the Dad's. http://steamed.kotaku.com/dream-daddy-creators-explain-why-you-can-t-smooch-all-t-1797354455 that excuse is kinda half assed, in real life gay men in miserable false straight marriages do sometimes leave their beards, at the very least they could have included a dad who did divorce his wife because he realized he was gay and not because "an evil incubus killed my wife then raped me" edit: it just occurred to me that none of the people who follow my porn blog except for the one or two satanists seem to like dream daddy(or at the very least haven't made any posts about it), and most of the people following it are gay men....it seems like almost the whole fanbase is women and gay satanists Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satou Kazuma Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 http://steamed.kotaku.com/how-dream-daddys-creators-avoided-turning-homosexuality-1797414230 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mochi Posted August 1, 2017 Author Share Posted August 1, 2017 http://steamed.kotaku.com/how-dream-daddys-creators-avoided-turning-homosexuality-1797414230 some interesting points about that article "we didn't want the whole game to be a joke" It is though “I’m really frustrated with in media is that a lot of romance stories end after you kind of get to know each other.” every route ends right after you and the dad get to know eachother and before actual dating occurs, the game ends as soon as you and the other dad officialy begin dating, that statement contradicts the whole game also you can normalize homosexuality and still mention that it exists Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satou Kazuma Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 some interesting points about that article "we didn't want the whole game to be a joke" It is though “I’m really frustrated with in media is that a lot of romance stories end after you kind of get to know each other.” every route ends right after you and the dad get to know eachother and before actual dating occurs, the game ends as soon as you and the other dad officialy begin dating, that statement contradicts the whole game also you can normalize homosexuality and still mention that it exists There's just no way of pleasing your dumb ass views of video games without you mentioning how there's not enough gay people. It's their game and how they want to purvey to their general audiences. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mochi Posted August 1, 2017 Author Share Posted August 1, 2017 There's just no way of pleasing your dumb ass views of video games without you mentioning how there's not enough gay people. It's their game and how they want to purvey to their general audiences. obviously the game has gay people they just won't confirm which ones are and aren't, just that they all like men (Hugo and Damien are probably gay, the rest seem to all be Bi) and honestly Joseph is kind of the only thing I REALLY have an issue with the rest of the game actually seems okay basically just absolutely everything about Joseph is wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapinator_X Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 You can date most of the dads. Okay. You can't date one dad because he's already married. The same dad also has a creepy alternate ending. Fuck this game! Boycott it out of existence! Westboro out of 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mochi Posted August 1, 2017 Author Share Posted August 1, 2017 You can date most of the dads. Okay. You can't date one dad because he's already married. The same dad also has a creepy alternate ending. Fuck this game! Boycott it out of existence! Westboro out of 10 actually you can't date two, one of the others turns you down specifically because the previously mentioned dad with the creepy alternate ending ruined him emotionally and he doesn't want any relationships now if the game did not basically flat out say that remaining closeted and in a failing marriage is the best possible ending for Joseph and that choosing to be celibate just because one guy broke his heart once is best for Robert I would not hate it so much Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satou Kazuma Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 Apparently you failed reading comprehension to understand what the devs wanted out of their game. And your lack of emotion for the pure enjoyment of video games makes you a Debbie Downer amongst others. [youtube autoplay=1] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mochi Posted August 1, 2017 Author Share Posted August 1, 2017 Apparently you failed reading comprehension to understand what the devs wanted out of their game. And your lack of emotion for the pure enjoyment of video games makes you a Debbie Downer amongst others. I know exactly what they wanted out of their game, they wanted money that's why they made a bland game that they knew would be inoffensive to straight players, with some hidden homophobic shock-value to catch those same straight players off guard rather than something actually meant for gay people to play Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satou Kazuma Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 I know exactly what they wanted out of their game, they wanted money - you have no evidence to support your claim but your slanted opinion because you felt the game ripped you off, while many others felt satisfaction, including other gay folks. that's why they made a bland game that they knew would be inoffensive to straight players, with some hidden homophobic shock-value to catch those same straight players off guard - nope still not buying your slanted interpretation. rather than something actually meant for gay people to play - and what exclude other gamers by sexual orientation because it isn't meant for their kind of people to play? and again, you failed reading comprehension because they consorted their gay friends/colleagues before making this game. it was meant to be a parody while being semi-serious with product. had they not rushed this out in time for their set release, there would have been more content and polished script. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mochi Posted August 1, 2017 Author Share Posted August 1, 2017 and again, you failed reading comprehension because they consorted their gay friends/colleagues before making this game. it was meant to be a parody while being semi-serious with product. had they not rushed this out in time for their set release, there would have been more content and polished script. if they add more satisfying and well written endings as DLC then I'll retract my complaints Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThisIdiot Posted August 2, 2017 Share Posted August 2, 2017 There's just no way of pleasing your dumb ass views of video games without you mentioning how there's not enough gay people. the Mochi Way in all it's bitterness Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandstone Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 I heard about this game the other day.... I think it's a good step forward for equality.... now gays can have their own really shitty dating sim game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mochi Posted August 11, 2017 Author Share Posted August 11, 2017 I heard about this game the other day.... I think it's a good step forward for equality.... now gays can have their own really shitty dating sim game. there've already been several, and at least one far better one Dream Daddy just got attention because it was produced by a bunch of rich white straight youtube letsplayers who make homophobic jokesk, so nobody was expecting them to make a gay dating sim of course as this thread points it it's not a dating sim at all, the games yet to be released true ending reveals it's actually a horror game disguised as a dating sim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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