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The End of the Forge is a New Beginning??
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fire force Fire Force Episode 19 Discussion!!
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Episode 19: "Into The Nether" OP: "Mayday" by Coldrain feat. Ryo The Netherworld looms! 12:30 PM Tomorrow night (12/14-15) Only Toonami!! Also, this is going down tomorrow! -
dr. stone Dr. Stone Episode 16 Discussion!!!
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Episode #16: "A Tale For The Ages" One last episode at midnight this Saturday night (12/14-15) before Professor Senku's Holiday Cram Session (The Dr. Stone Marathon) in 2 weeks! Only TOONAMI!! -
DARN IT, THEY'RE PICKING UP ONE EPISODE TOO LATE! Back during the last double-header on October 5-6, my DVR screwed up due to a downpour and I didn't get those episodes on my DVR, PLUS the online version is screwed up on [as], so there's parts of 6 I've never seen! I was hoping it would lead a full night, but at least I get to see 7 as I should have!
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For only the 2nd time since its inception (the first being a regular after-school block since 2/29/2000 was a Monday), Toonami gets to air on Leap Day next year. Since this is kind of a bizarre day that doesn't always show up on the calendar, I think this is low-hanging fruit for Toonami to run a movie or some kind of special event. The only 2 possibilities that come to mind are MHA: Two Heroes and DBS: Broly. Those are both "low-hanging fruit" that are movies that happen to be associated with popular series, and it's probably been long enough for a theatrical anime movie to show up on ad-supported cable TV, though with non-anime that often takes more like 2 years, so maybe it still hasn't been long enough for either yet. Two Heroes is from July 2018, so it might be available. Your Name is definitely ripe for the picking as well, though probably slightly less likely since it doesn't have a connection to a currently-or-recently aired series.
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I'm making this thread to discuss the openings in Toonami's schedule that are coming up in early 2020, and what might be replacing them: Lupin III Part 5 (Ended 12/7/19) - This is the lowest of the low-hanging-fruit. It already ended a 3:30 AM premiere run that it got demoted to, and got already replaced in part by a 3 AM Lupin OVA, but speaking long-term I really don't think it's going to be replaced by a premiere. This would be a good timeslot for One Punch Man Season 2 reruns, but there's a problem--it will have 2 episodes left in premieres on 1/4 when this timeslot's occupant is needed. A good candidate would probably be reruns of gen:LOCK, this time uncut, since airing the first and last episodes with a 45-minute runtime would only displace AOT reruns, and that's fine. But if Toonami is completely insane, this might be a good timeslot for something older and really niche, but really really good, like Star Blazers 2199/2202. Of course, Toonami COULD take the low road and just contract back to ending at 4 AM, but I doubt they'll do that. If they do, I guess [as] might as well rerun Primal in the 4 AM timeslot... One Punch Man Season 2 (Ending 1/11/20) - The other piece of low-hanging fruit is much higher, in fact led-into by current flagship show MHA. It would be really insane, but oddly enough not THAT farfetched, since it would keep the Superhero Power Hour alive, for Toonami to dive back into DC animation for the first time in over 5 years with hilariously-edited episodes of Harley Quinn, but I think the most likely candidate show for this timeslot is fellow ONE creation Mob Psycho 100 Season 2. This would also be a great slot for a simuldub of a brand-new Winter show. Fire Force (Ending 2/1/20) - There are several directions Toonami could go with replacing this fiery 12:30 AM show. Perhaps some other shows move up and open a slot for something classic like Star Blazers 2199/2202 further down the lineup? Is this JoJo's opportunity to get out of the graveyard? What about Black Clover? Or Demon Slayer? Will SAO Alicization: War Of Underworld be ready yet? Or, maybe something new and hot (no pun intended) from FUNimation if it wasn't ready when OPMS2 ended? Dr. Stone Season 1 (Ending 2/22/20) - It was just announced on Twitter today that Dr. Stone will be taking a break after Episode 24 premieres this Friday, so there's an open midnight timeslot right here. Maybe this is where SAOAWOU goes, or maybe the 12:30 show that is hot and new pulls a reverse Fire Force and moves up to midnight, but since SAOA moved UP ot Midnight prior to its conclusion, I doubt that's what will happen. Demon Slayer (Ending April/May 2020) - I can't even begin to speculate on what will take this show's place. Promised Neverland Season 2 maybe? Is that even coming this winter? Who knows? SAOAWOU is an obvious pick if it's not airing already and took that long to ready the dub, but otherwise, who knows? I don't even know what's next after that. JoJo maybe? I'd say that depends on the length of the replacements of the aforementioned 5 shows though. But it is clear that after being relatively stable for 3 months, Toonami's regular lineup is once again about to go through a period of great volatility for the next 2 months or so. Hopefully it can keep up its mostly positive ratings momentum!
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If I go out on Saturday nights (as I probably will this weekend), I still usually watch whatever Toonami shows are left on the East Coast when I get home. Sometimes I switch over to the west coast feed and watch a couple of those before going to bed as well, but I'm always recording everything and watching on-demand later. I also have been known to pull out my smartphone and watch the [as] app during breaks in live music shows for instance. But lately for me the shows are REALLY compelling (ESPECIALLY the first 4), so it becomes a lot harder to do that.
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The nature of sports bars is that they can only do events that are happening on the national broadcast stage. Last weekend we had 9 conference championships and a UFC match. This week we've got a few basketball games, the FCS Championship game, the Army/Navy football game, the Heisman presentation, and a boxing match. I rest my case. Besides, sports bars are pretty much a non-entity to this discussion. It's not like they would ever show Toonami (No, not even MegaloBox Season 2, which is a shame). Other "geek-oriented" programming like the Star Wars marathon on TNT and hell, even TZGZ is more of a threat to Toonami this weekend than what sports bars will show.
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Why do you say that? As far as I know, since this week is fall final exams and graduation all over the country, there are very few college football games this weekend. College BASKETBALL, on the other hand, well, graduation is usually in their arenas so there won't be that many but there should still be quite a few! But of course we've still got the Heisman presentation. And for some ungodly reason Boxing after that. I won't be watching either, but I WILL be at a college basketball game (go figure) that evening and then probably a concert after that. So, I won't be watching much Toonami until later on when JoJo and Lupin are on, but I WILL be recording the shows! On that note... PRE-TOONAMI: Steven Universe Future (TOON, 8:00 PM, 15 min.) • 0.807 million viewers (#28) • 0.44 HH (#44) • 0.23 A18-49 (#22) • 0.23 A18-34 (#15) • 0.23 A25-54 (#28) Steven Universe Future (TOON, 8:15 PM, 15 min.) • 0.799 million viewers (#29) • 0.44 HH (#44) • 0.24 A18-49 (#18) • 0.25 A18-34 (#12) • 0.25 A25-54 (#24) Steven Universe Future (TOON, 8:30 PM, 15 min.) • 0.837 million viewers (#24) • 0.45 HH (#42) • 0.26 A18-49 (#14) • 0.27 A18-34 (#8) • 0.26 A25-54 (#21) Steven Universe Future (TOON, 8:45 PM, 15 min.) • 0.757 million viewers (#33) • 0.41 HH (#48) • 0.25 A18-49 (#17) • 0.25 A18-34 (#12) • 0.25 A25-54 (#24) Bob’s Burgers (repeat) (ADSM, 9:00 PM, 30 min.) • 0.521 million viewers (#59) • 0.32 HH (#62) • 0.22 A18-49 (#23) • 0.19 A18-34 (#17) • 0.22 A25-54 (#30) • 0.06 A55+ Bob’s Burgers (repeat) (ADSM, 9:30 PM, 30 min.) • 0.628 million viewers (#52) • 0.39 HH (#52) • 0.29 A18-49 (#10) • 0.26 A18-34 (#11) • 0.28 A25-54 (#17) • 0.09 A55+ Family Guy (repeat) (ADSM, 10:00 PM, 30 min.) • 0.692 million viewers (#43) • 0.43 HH (#46) • 0.32 A18-49 (#9) • 0.28 A18-34 (#7) • 0.34 A25-54 (#10) • 0.10 A55+ Family Guy (repeat) (ADSM, 10:30 PM, 30 min.) • 0.811 million viewers (#27) • 0.50 HH (#32) • 0.40 A18-49 (#4) • 0.31 A18-34 (#3) • 0.43 A25-54 (#7) • 0.11 A55+ Read more: https://programminginsider.com/saturday-final-ratings-sec-championship-caps-cbs-sports-best-college-football-season-average-viewership-since-1990/ Not surprisingly, Bob's Burgers didn't build on Steven Universe Future, but Toonami did better than estimate from those decimal numbers carried out to the hundredths place indicated: 12/7/2019 - Adults 18-49 Show Viewers Retention TOONAMI MHAS4 364,000 70.96% OPM2 280,000 76.92% Dr. Stone 235,000 83.93% Fire Force 196,000 83.40% Food Wars! 186,000 94.90% D. Slayer 185,000 99.46% B. Clover 161,000 87.03% JoJo5: GW 149,000 92.55% Shippuden 169,000 113.42% LupinPt5 150,000 88.76% AOTS1 (R) 132,000 88.00% AVERAGE 200,636 42/48 😵 Over 200K on average, but only just. MHA retained decently from Family Guy (estimated) in 18-49, and the rest of the night retained pretty well, though still a much sharper drop-off early than normal.
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fire force Fire Force Episode 18 Discussion
OwlChemist81 replied to OwlChemist81's topic in Episode Discussion Archive
Don't know how you're gonna take this, but I feel this song would be at home on U.S. Active Rock radio along with the likes of Avenged Sevenfold, Ghost, and Skillet! -
Updated... "After a holiday break, Adult Swim’s line-up performed as follows: MY HERO ACADEMIA up 0.01 to 0.28, ONE-PUNCH MAN down 0.03 to 0.22, DR STONE down 0.04 to 0.18, FIRE FORCE down 0.07 to 0.15, FOOD WARS down 0.08 to 0.14, DEMON SLAYER down 0.06 to 0.14/264K, BLACK CLOVER down 0.05 to 0.12/225K, JOJO’S BIZARRE ADVENTURE down 0.05 to 0.11/207K, NARUTO down 0.02 to 0.13/249K, LUPIN THE 3RD steady at 0.12, and ATTACK ON TITAN down 0.01 to 0.10/180K." 12/7/2019 - Total Viewers Show Viewers Retention MHAS4 550,000 OPM2 453,000 82.36% Dr. Stone 374,000 82.56% FireForce 302,000 80.75% FoodWars! 286,000 94.70% D. Slayer 264,000 92.31% B. Clover 225,000 85.23% JoJoPt5 207,000 92.00% Shippuden 249,000 120.29% LupinPt5 203,000 81.53% AOTS1 (R) 180,000 88.67% AVERAGE 299,364 47/49 😨 That's 3rd worst for the year so far, beaten out only by the abysmally-rated lineups around the 4th of July (6/29 and 7/6)! Yeah, it's clear Toonami's seen better days, but those better days weren't this time last year, at least not for these timeslots, as this absolutely blows that week's corresponding time frame's pitiful 269K out of the water. Interestingly enough, NOT the entire block, though, as that averaged 302K! It should also be noted that in a true block-to-block comparison, the 2018 block actually wins more often in total viewers, but that's probably beside the point because the slots that were Toonami then and are not Toonami now are certainly getting better ratings for Adult Swim as a whole. It did end up making the Toonami slots in 2019 more valuable on a year-to-year basis though. In terms of 18-49, though, it seems this lineup actually places 43rd, beating out the ones around Halloween (10/26 and 11/2)! We won't know until Programming Insider posts the full numbers later, though!
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About those year-to-year comparisons I mentioned, these are the averages: Total Viewer Averages - Toonami slots 11P-4A 9/29/18 343,900 9/28/19 472,800 10/6/18 303,000 10/5/19 431,900 10/13/18 355,800 10/12/19 326,900 10/20/18 284,200 10/19/19 336,900 10/27/18 297,600 10/26/19 333,000 11/3/18 332,125 11/2/19 333,600 11/10/18 332,500 11/9/19 330,300 11/17/18 250,600 11/16/19 337,700 11/24/18 317,100 11/23/19 445,800 12/1/18 338,300 11/30/19 369,600 As you can see, with only 2 exceptions, the common 5 hours of the 2019 block outrated the corresponding 5 hours in the 2018 block every week but two! And as for the 18-49s... Adults 18-49 Average - Toonami slots 11P-4A 9/29/18 221,800 9/28/19 325,500 10/6/18 189,700 10/5/19 295,000 10/13/18 199,200 10/12/19 223,300 10/20/18 169,600 10/19/19 225,700 10/27/18 169,400 10/26/19 193,900 11/3/18 192,500 11/2/19 187,100 11/10/18 187,600 11/9/19 212,300 11/17/18 140,000 11/16/19 206,400 11/24/18 166,700 11/23/19 256,900 12/1/18 207,600 11/30/19 263,100 Even more striking, the ONLY week that the 18-49s of 2019 didn't beat those of 2018 was 11/3/18-11/2/19--and THAT gets taken away if you take out the suspicious ratings for 3:30 AM which may have actually even been a non-Toonami show! So it's plain to see at least now 2019 is kicking 2018's ass, and it looks like that trend will even continue this week, as the known timeslots have a 330K average in total viewers, and the corresponding slots last year only a 270K average!
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MHA did pretty well, but then the bottom fell out! http://www.showbuzzdaily.com/articles/showbuzzdailys-top-150-saturday-cable-originals-network-finals-12-7-2019.html Off the chart, JoJo (GioGio?) checked in at #62 (in 18-49) with 207K and 0.11 18-49, while Lupin III Part 5 concluded at #60 with 203K and 0.12 18-49. Interesting to note that Steven Universe Future averaged over 800K. Too bad that lead-in was wasted on Bob's Burgers! If Toonami had had a lead-in like that last year, it might have turned the tide on a really weak time in Toonami's viewership. MHA is strong, but not as strong as it could have been if it were a dub premiere. However, on a year-to-year basis, this Toonami block HAS proven to be stronger in the past couple of months, and this week even continues that trend...
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fire force Fire Force Episode 18 Discussion
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This will be reposted in this week's Fire Force discussion thread! -
True, but it DOES have a way to watch those episode streaming 48 hours earlier, and yet TWD isn't doing as well as it used to be doing in the ratings, but it's still doing well!
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Do y'all not watch The Walking Dead on AMC? It's taking off not only December, but January as well, returning in February.